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"Rape – Part 1 (Statistics)". This blog post by Dr Rick Bradford is from 2017 so doesn't contain up-to-date statistics but I think it makes some interesting general points, some of which I'll highlight in the comments below. Focuses on "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" & "Recent Events Rape Statistics"

wntk

March 23, 2022
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Title "Rape – Part 1 (Statistics)". This blog post by Dr Rick Bradford is from 2017 so doesn't contain up-to-date statistics but I think it makes some interesting general points, some of which I'll highlight in the comments below. Focuses on "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" & "Recent Events Rape Statistics"
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Date March 23, 2022 2:42 AM UTC
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[–]wntk[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the comments:

"I’m not sure if you are aware that Police “Record” a rape when it is reported to them. They do NOT have to interview the complainant and they do take reports from Women’s Aid – so if a worker from Women’s Aid reports to the police that a woman has been raped but does not wish to be interviewed, the rape is recorded and no further action is taken by police. This, of course, leaves the statistics wide open to abuse by idealogues in Rape Crisis centres. "

[–]Sininenn 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. I experienced something similar, where an NGO was using a report which in its introduction states that its data is based on self-reported opinions, to 'dispel myths about rape'.

They made an IG post, talking about 'facts', based on an article by the crime prevention committee, which published results of that report as 'facts'...

Such dishonesty is incredible...

[–]wntk[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Part of this cultural expurgation must include a distancing of police ‘training’ from lobbies with partisan politics. In that context it is about time that feminism was recognised as a political opinion, not the definition of loveliness."

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"Data on rape prosecutions and convictions have been taken from the CPS VAWG reports, Refs.4-9. However, great caution is needed in using these sources for this purpose. Since Alison Saunders took up the position of DPP in November 2013, the main text of these VAWG reports became very misleading as regards what is ostensibly reported as a “rape conviction”. What the CPS have reported recently is the number of convictions resulting from an initial charge of rape. However, in a large proportion of cases (around half) the data actually refer to a conviction for a lesser offence – not a conviction for rape."

CPS = Crown Prosecution Service

DPP = Director of Public Prosecutions

VAWG = Violence Against Women & Girls

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"One thing which irritates me on reading CPS reports is that an acquittal is referred to as an “unsuccessful outcome”. Whilst I understand the CPS’s business is prosecution, it makes me uneasy that influential parties in the criminal justice process should regard as a success anything other than a just outcome. One feels that they perceive acquittals as “the jury screwed up”. Thank God for juries, I say."

CPS = Crown Prosecution Service

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Famously, the ‘attrition rate’ for rape of females is very large. By ‘attrition’ is meant the reduction in numbers through the criminal justice process, from initial reports to the police to eventual conviction. In 2014 only 6% of police recorded rapes of females led to a conviction. What is not generally appreciated is that the attrition rate for male rape is worse, as Table 3 indicates."

[For male complainants aged 16+, Table 3 shows a figure of 1%]

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the comments:

"Erin Pizzey [Yes, the famous one]

Thank you so much for this first factual, evidence based report on the frightening prosecution and persecution of men. Please do not loose heart because your research is a beacon of light in the murky obfuscation that is deliberately offered to the general public. I do hope you will be able to comment on the monies doled out to accusers regardless of the outcome of the trials. Paid by the state to falsely accuse men is the most heinous crime of our time. How could this happen? "

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The case against Liam Allan collapsed when former conservative MP Jerry Hayes, the prosecution barrister – yes, the prosecution barrister – insisted that the police hand over the evidence from the complainants ‘phone. Some 50,000 messages were finally revealed on the first day of the trial itself. The defence advocate, Julia Smart, should be mentioned in dispatches. She spent the rest of that day – and undoubtedly all night – reviewing the contents of the new disclosure. Among them were messages to Mr Allan pestering him for sex, and fantasising about “rough sex and being raped.” One message read simply “it wasn’t against my will or anything”. The prosecution advised the case be withdrawn. It was."

[–]wntk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"There are those who will claim that it is not the job of the police to investigate evidence which might assist a defendant. DefenceBrief.BlogSpot, another lawyer’s blog, refutes such claims thus, “such claims are absurd morally, practically and legally. Morally because such a situation would mean that an investigator who spots material that looks like it could lead to material that would prove innocence would be justified in ignoring it and that will always be morally wrong. It is practically wrong because the police as agents of the state hold powers and have resources to investigate not available to individuals. A prime example, is the power to seize telephones as evidence and interrogate them, which is something no defendant can do lawfully for himself.” "

[–]AffectionatePapaya13 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My best friend was raped. I had to tell him he was raped and spell it out for him before he admitted it himself. He told me he was too wasted n didnt want to have sex. A girl forced herself on him and he couldn't resist. I'm like dude you got raped. He's like naw. I told him to swap the gender and retell that story. He's like okay yeah I got raped. I saw her photo. Looks like a 1/10 face, obese girl. Definitely not his type or anyone's type.

[–]wntk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Drat, there's a typo in heading. It should be:
Focuses on "Guilty Until Proven Innocent - Recent Events" & "Rape Statistics"

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