Really curious

AlphaWookie · 2014-09-09T09:26:48+00:00

If you are young and learning about romantic relationships, sexual relationship, and peer relationships with the opposite sex/gender it can often very challanging and can be frustrating. So no need to beat yourself up over it. With that out of the way, PUA is not apart of the MRM. I often find the attitudes in the PUA community to be against the MRM, as I know it. Checkout the sidebar to get a better understand of the MRM and it's goals. That should give you an idea about what the MRM is about and then you need to decide if you want to incoporate equality into you life. If you do you will most likely need to rethink how you view romantic relationship, professional relatationships, and peer relationships. Just remember that most of this site is very western culture centric and you may need to ajust if that is relevent to you and your needs. Also you may want to consider the MGTOW movement as there is overlap with the MRM. If you have any other questions I'll do my best. I hope that helps.

Be Well

MRSPArchiver · 2014-09-09T08:49:27+00:00

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MaestroLogical · 2014-09-09T09:20:36+00:00

You'll gain very little from following PUA techniques other than momentary gratification and an overall feeling of unease. Not to mention that most of the 'secrets' that used to work, only did so due to the fact they were 'secrets' and now that 98% of the girls out there know what 'negging' and the like are, they no longer even work on a sub-conscious level.

Just tell your friend to grow up and stop relying on trickery to get laid. It's all meaningless in the end that way, as nothing you get will ever last.

headingtoshore · 2014-09-09T14:09:22+00:00

Of course i can not know the details of what your friend told you or the contents of your texting, but I do have some thoughts PUA and red pill that you may find helpful.

Please let me import 2 concepts from related discussions.

The first thing is ALT, it stands for 'are like that' it is part of several acronyms that appear in mens rights, red pill, anti feminism and PUA texts.

NAFALT (not all Feminists are like that) was the first i happened to encounter, in a Girlwriteswhat video. Karen Straughan used the phrase to describe a family of evasive feminist apologia. As time passed and I read / watched more I encountered AWALT (all women are like that) a tennant of the red pill, and AFALT (all feminists are like that).

The second is 'Apexualism' which i learned of from Typhonblue. In a nutshell, it's a focus on the top performers in a group that produces a bias in evaluating other members.

Ok please bear with me, Im going someplace with this I promise.

Let me tell you something about myself, I'm bisexual but I'm not really into casual sex. I do enjoy dating but out of 100 or so people I have dated at lease semi long term, I undressed maybe 25 of them. I have had zero one night stands with women I did not know socially, maybe 3 with men.

In my experience, very attractive men act just the same in relationships as very attractive women do.

So here's the meat of it: NALT - Narcissists Are Like That.

If you observe youtube feminists, or tumbler feminists, or media feminists you may come away believing AFALT, but this is apexualism - you are looking at successful publicity seeking feminists and generalizing to all feminists. If you date he 1000 hottest women in your town using PUA techniques, you may come away believing AWALT, but that is apexualism - you are selecting very attractive women from social environments and generalizing to all women.

The truth is simply NALT, narcissists are like that. If you select the most attractive members of any mating pool, you are selecting for narcissists.

adding: So by using PUA techniques, you are 'channeling narcissism' you are presenting as a narcissist. Narcissists are abusive in relationships with more grounded people or in group settings with mainly grounded people, but one on one with other narcissists they become people pleasers.

Title	Really curious
Author	wazzup987
Upvotes	2
Comments	7
Date	September 9, 2014 8:49 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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