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Scholarships being a good example

Hadashi_blacksky · 2019-07-20T20:16:33+00:00

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July 20, 2019

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Title	Scholarships being a good example
Author	Hadashi_blacksky
Upvotes	209
Comments	8
Date	July 20, 2019 8:16 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cfqbzm/scholarships_being_a_good_example/
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[–]mtcapri 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]Pigeooon 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]fgrsentinel 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Pigeooon 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]mtcapri 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aren't affirmative action and quota systems specifically for equal opportunity? For example, requiring a higher amount of female applicants because it's easier for men to get the job compared to women without it? So they're therefore giving women more opportunity (to make up for the supposed gap in opportunity)?

The argument for AA and quotas in theory is that it erodes social prejudices against those demographics, which in theory have been negatively affecting their ability to join them. However, the form those pressures take and whether or not they're actually due to societal prejudices is very debatable. For example, if you look at societies across the globe and rank them by both wealth and gender equality, what you ironically find is that, as countries become wealthier and more gender equal, disparities between genders in various fields increase rather than decrease. This suggests that gender norms are not actually the reason for these disparities, and that individual choices are actually naturally breaking down along gendered lines, because there's something about sex/gender that actually makes men more interested in some fields, and women more interested in others.

AA and quotas are based on the assumption that men and women desire to go into every field to an equal degree, when the data overwhelmingly show that's not the case.

Furthermore, AA and quotas artificially manipulate people's opportunities, thereby creating inequality of opportunity. Again, the idea is that they're correcting for the impact of gender norms, but if that were the case, then we wouldn't see greater levels of inter-field gender disparity as those norms eroded, would we?

[–]Hi_Cham 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're forgetting that getting the job is the end goal, equal oprotunity already exists in the form of the educational system. A system that is made for them, that's why they stay for in there and are more likely to succeed. Men are better at the streets, where competency matters more, that's why you're more likely to find them there.

It's a rarity that you would find misogynistic professor that isn't already fired, it's actually the other way around(men are more likely to be undermined). People tend to favor women more then men by being more nice, more giving to them.

Men also have it harder because they're expected to be tough. It's expected because of our biological advantages.

The thing that women are better than us in this feminist ordeal is that they complain more, over appreciate their strengths and undermine their weaknesses when it's appropriate for them.

Plus saying it's easier for men is quite an unfair thing to say, everyone has their own version of struggles.

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