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| 5 | My Husband Turned His Life Around. I Wasn't Prepared For How Much I'd Resent It.I’ve done my bit to sabotage his routine, faked illness, the blues and even diarrhea to get him to skip. He fell for it (once!), but quickly wised up to my sulking, fake tears and occasional threats of divorce. That’s coercive and controlling behavior. This woman is an abusive cunt and should be called as such in magazines and newspapers from now on. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/20 02:13 PM |
| 1 | The single best way to reduce violence against women is to encourage women not to be abusive towards menI've never made a post directly about it. Perhaps I will at some point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/20 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Maybe-unpopular opinion: do male issues belong on the far left?Ah, so your concerns are about religion and traditional gender roles? I'm an atheist, as well as obviously a male advocate, so I can't say I'm unconcerned about that. Not religion. I too am an atheist, and a bit of an anti-theist to be honest (in that I think religion is a net harm to society), but I am of the belief that religion is on it's way out. A substantial portion of m problems with feminism though lie in the ways it mimics religiosity. Feminism has mirror concepts to original sin and do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/20 11:53 PM |
| 1 | SIGN THE PETITION: ACLU: Revoke your title of Ambassador for Women's Rights from Amber Heard!I feel like Your feelings are a poor reflection of reality. Now, fuck off. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/20 11:12 PM |
| 11 | Petition to remove abusive Amber Heard from Aqua man reaches 241KMaybe consider signing this one instead? I think her status as an admitted abuser and comment about how she just can't be expected to control herself when she gets angry warrant removing her as an official DV advocate. I'm against cancel culture, but this isn't the same thing IMO. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/20 01:40 PM |
| 19 | The single best way to reduce violence against women is to encourage women not to be abusive towards menSaying it's the "single best" way to reduce violence against women seems very victim-blamey to me. I think a better claim would be that "discouraging abusive behavior in women would go a long way towards cutting down on abusive behavior in men." However, the same claim would be equally as valid with the genders reversed, so I'm not sure the claim needs to be gendered at all. As a person who treats victims of domestic violence, I would much rather people be told that, "when you hear about someone… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 01:41 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Try using a VPN add-on for your browser. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/20 12:53 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Very good IMO. But other users are saying they can get past the region restrictions if they use a VPN, so maybe try that first? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 12:49 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Try using a VPN add-on for your browser. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 12:46 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Yeah, I think it’s U.S. only, sorry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 07:15 AM |
| 10 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Totally worth watching. It focuses on the issues, not critiquing either side of the gender political debate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 06:10 AM |
| 8 | The Red Pill (Now free to watch on YouTube!)Argh. Yeah, figures in Australia. You guys didn't treat Cassie that well while she was promoting the film there. :-P | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Maybe-unpopular opinion: do male issues belong on the far left?Now I think about it, the gentrification debate is pretty similar to the immigration debate. I guess right-wingers dislike how a community may change when poor people move into it, and left-wingers dislike how a community may change when rich people move into it. That's an interesting comparison which I may have to think more about. Huh...you're right, that is an interesting comparison. I think the immigration issue is about much more than just poor people moving into more well-off areas and neg… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 03:53 AM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....At least once, in this interview with Stefan Molyneux: Ah, Stefan Molyneux...now it all makes sense. Not that it justifies it, but Rubin seems to like bringing in shock jocks from the other side a lot. I'm kind of surprised he's never had Alex Jones on, tbh. In terms of electoral politics, in 2016 Rubin endorsed the Libertarian Party's Gary Johnson. Yeah, that doesn't honestly surprise me, and the reasons he gave in his video strike me as wholly unsurprising too. Rubin describes himself as a cla… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Maybe-unpopular opinion: do male issues belong on the far left?Actually she started out as a Republican decades ago. LOL, I just remembered I'd heard that before, but it's so dystonic with my vision of her today that it escaped my memory. Politics are truly weird sometimes. This strikes me as more an economic issue than an identity issue. If I understand correctly, her concern was that Amazon building a headquarters there would attract more rich people to the area causing housing prices to skyrocket, a point on which it appears she was correct. And her crit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 02:50 AM |
| 11 | Woman To Shelve Belief That Gender Is Social Construct For Few Minutes While Boyfriend Changes Flat Tire On Side Of RoadI have to say, even as a Leftist, I chuckle a bit at the Babylon Bee’s satire. There’s something about good satire that I think can appeal to anyone who gets the joke, even if they’re the butt of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/20 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Great news from Finland! Let’s hope all countries follow their lead!!Very good news indeed! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 05:22 PM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....He's also had guests claiming different races have different IQs, a neo-fascist talking point based on incredibly dubious studies funded by a pro-eugenics group. To my knowledge Rubin doesn't challenge even that, he just frames it as another reasonable discussion being silenced by SJWs. Really? Ugh... Yeah, it's one thing to have on people from the other side and not really challenge their views in the name of being a good host and giving them a chance to make their case against your side's talk… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 07:53 AM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....All the anti-trans arguments are based in the same premises as the the anti-male arguments, framing men as potentially dangerous and women as potentially vulnerable. It seems to me a no-brainer that male advocates should be siding with the pro-trans side of the split. I don't really look at the issue from a point of partisan interest, and I don't think most other people are either. The real debate is about whether or not trans-women have an advantage over cis-women in sports. If they do, it's ob… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 06:45 AM |
| 3 | Please track this story. An 8th grade female teacher was arrested for raping a student. A year later on the same day she was arrested he was expelled for his part in it as a 9th grader in the same school district.Then take my advice and delete this post. It isn't worth risking your job over, should someone figure out you leaked information. Wait until there's actual detailed news coverage of the situation and then bring it to this sub's attention. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/20 06:21 AM |
| 5 | Please track this story. An 8th grade female teacher was arrested for raping a student. A year later on the same day she was arrested he was expelled for his part in it as a 9th grader in the same school district.Your link says only that the teacher is under criminal investigation—it says nothing about the crime she's being investigated for or anything about an expelled student. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/20 05:44 AM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....What little commentary I've seen seems to suggest he rejects traditionalist stuff implicitly, but he doesn't talk about it very much. In general, he focuses on criticizing ideas he doesn't like on the Left, and simply indicates from time to time that he agrees ideas on the Right are bad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 01:59 AM |
| 3 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....I see a lot comments (ITT and elsewhere) claiming he's right-wing because he criticises the far Left: if that's all it takes then call me Trump. Yeah, I've noticed that too, and I don't share those views. I appreciate that Pool questions the Left, and I don't mind that he focuses solely on that; I don't think that makes him Right-wing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Maybe-unpopular opinion: do male issues belong on the far left?Do you mean "we" as in male advocates generally, or specifically Left Wing Male Advocates? Because so far that process has resulted in right-wingers and far-right-wingers coalescing around MRAs, something I reject because I consider it a bad ideological fit. r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is a conscious attempt to find a different approach. I meant LWMAs. I agree that one of the problems with the MRM is that it draws in too many conservatives, who want to see many women's rights rolled back (although I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 01:55 AM |
| 2 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....Dave Rubin seems to be mainly a platform for right-wing propagandists at this point. Does he ever challenge any of the right-wing claims made by his guests? Does he even have any ideas of his own? Rubin does have a good number of Right-wing guests on and comparatively few Left-wing guests, but he also has centrists on. He's the type of interviewer that never challenges his guests' views, which you can see as a good interview style or bad. Personally, I wish he would challenge their views more. O… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 01:29 AM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....That's a fair point about the Green New Deal. However, public healthcare is the norm in most countries - it's really America which has been on the far-right on this issue, rather than the rest of the world being on the far-left. Yeah, I meant in the U.S., to be fair. What are those ideas? I honestly don't recall specific ones right now, but I know I've heard him voice support for various leftist ideas in passing. Again, he just doesn't talk about them that much. Partly this is a problem with the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/20 01:20 AM |
| 4 | SIGN THE PETITION: ACLU: Revoke your title of Ambassador for Women's Rights from Amber Heard!I only cross-posted this here from /r/mensrights, so if they removed it from feminist subs, they certainly didn't give an explanation to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 01:40 PM |
| 1 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....why are you asking us what we think of him? He's talked about men's issues before and is a frequent critic of the "woke" Left and feminism, which is the source of a lot of anti-male crap. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 01:22 PM |
| 8 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....Dave Rubin or Carl Benjamin I have to say, I'm a bit shocked you put these two in the same category. I would agree Tim Pool is catering to the same crowd as Rubin, but I think Sargon caters to a far more Right-wing demographic. Maybe there's some overlap, but I find them to be very different. He describes fairly mainstream left-wing policies (eg. the Green New Deal or even Medicare For All) as "the far left". Well, to be fair, until recently, those were both Far Left ideas. It's only been in the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 03:23 AM |
| 3 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....I also think he’s drifted rightward in content because that’s increasingly where his audience resides. That sort of makes him sound like he's just pandering to said audience and shifting his (professed) views and content to appeal to them. I don't really get the sense he's like that; he seems to have a very good sense of what he believes, and have enough integrity to compromise those beliefs for clicks. Maybe that's just my impression though—I can't say I watch him religiously, just a fair bit f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Maybe-unpopular opinion: do male issues belong on the far left?I guess I would argue that we need not pick a political aisle to stand in. We should advocate for what we believe in and let the people who share those beliefs coalesce around us. Gradually, we will be pigeon-holed by society into an aisle, but it won't be one of our own choosing, it will just be what bin society perceives us to be in. I would also argue that your general criticism of the Center-Left seem to conflate economic and social issues. Personally, while I don't consider myself a full-on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 02:42 AM |
| 2 | I'm curious what people here think of Tim Pool....I was gonna make another post asking the sub's opinions about Dave Rubin, actually. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 02:13 AM |
| 3 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Yeah, I didn't see it coming either, and when I did find out about it, it essentially locked in my vote for him in 2016. I don't agree with all of Bernie's policies or views, and I empathize with his critics when they say some of his goals are too ambitious, but overall, I find him to be the most honest, consistent politician I've seen in years, and that counts for a lot with me. My biggest fear about him as president is that he won't be able to get people to work with him—even other Democrats—b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/20 01:54 AM |
| 4 | Feminists are defending Amber Heard. Imagine my shock.--Women abuse men just as much as men abuse women. This is true, although it's also true that women tend to endure the greater proportion of severe physical abuse. Still, not an inaccurate statement. --Women like Heard mean that women should expect to get backhanded at full strength by their male partners if they hit them. I honestly don't see why they shouldn't. Don't start a physical fight you can't win. No man would get any sympathy for hitting a bigger man and expecting the guy to show restr… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 11:28 PM |
| 15 | TwoX Removes post about Amber Heard being an abuser.Hardly surprising. It's a sub for women that is ruled over by hardcore feminists. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Another excellent Cathy Young piece about how our discussions about masculinity tend to demonize malesI don't know if this philosophy should be called feminism or something else. But the biggest impediment to its development is what passes for feminism today. Fuckin' bitch gonna make me cry.... LOL, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she started out as a feminist and then became disillusioned later on, switching to a humanist or just eschewing labels altogether. Whatever she is, I'm glad she's out there and writing. She has an excellent moral compass and a talent for teasing out the subtle proble… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Another excellent Cathy Young piece about how our discussions about masculinity tend to demonize malesDo you have a link? Not that I don’t trust you, I’m just curious to take a look myself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Another excellent Cathy Young piece about how our discussions about masculinity tend to demonize malesAre you sure she identifies that way? From her Wikipedia page, Steven Pinker identifies her as such, but it never says she herself identfies as a feminist, only that she writes frequently about feminism. The page itself also refers to her as an "individualist feminist," comparing her to Wendy McElroy (another great writer, but she actually is a self-avowed feminist), but again doesn't establish any labels Young herself adheres to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Another excellent Cathy Young piece about how our discussions about masculinity tend to demonize malesIs she even a feminist? I just realized I'm not sure she is. Anyone know for sure? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Another excellent Cathy Young piece about how our discussions about masculinity tend to demonize malesThis was actually already posted on this sub (albeit in the body of a text post): https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/ey5i52/crazy_accusations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x I'll leave it up, just FYI. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 06:43 PM |
| 2 | What, if any one thing, made you realise you needed this sub, or that this sub was needed?Same here. There's unfortunately a small group of conservative assholes on the sub who get on anyone who "concern trolls" by objecting to stuff like that. It's gotten to the point where I don't bother debating them anymore, I just tell them to fuck off. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 05:34 PM |
| 11 | Crazy accusationsAnother masterpiece by Cathy Young. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 03:00 PM |
| 6 | What, if any one thing, made you realise you needed this sub, or that this sub was needed?I'm not 100% sure, but I think using words like that is grounds for being banned (or at least getting your comment deleted). I don't think they have a rule against that actually. True abject misogyny gets downvoted but that stuff in the middle sometimes makes it through. Yeah, and I think that hurts the sub and the movement. There's not a lot of actual misogyny in it, but there are comments (and views, even more unfortunately) that are very insensitive to women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 01:46 PM |
| 5 | SIGN THE PETITION: ACLU: Revoke your title of Ambassador for Women's Rights from Amber Heard!Here's to hoping. Sign and above all share this. I'm not sure how many people actually know about her ACLU position. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Trump to change domestic violence and sexual assault definitionsVAWA, yes; Title IX, no. VAWA's title is sexist, but it's actual text is gender-neutral. Obama's Title IX mandates flipped an already corrupt system on its head and made it corrupt in a new way. The latter needs to go, because the police are who should be investigating sexual assault allegations. Colleges have no business doing that. You have to parse the actual law itself differently and judge it on its own merits, and judge it's implementation separately. Getting fair DV laws fairly applied to… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 01:35 PM |
| 8 | What, if any one thing, made you realise you needed this sub, or that this sub was needed?Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially: Increasingly I came to the realization that it was only interested in perpetuating the feminist ideology that women have problems and men are problems. And: Upon looking more at the sub I don't think this is really true. However, it's become primarily a space for rage bait, low effort memes, and "lol feminism bad" non-discussions. I mainly sub to /r/mensrights as a source of news, not to discuss the issues anymore. Too many conservatives and hardc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Trump to change domestic violence and sexual assault definitionsHello? Trump is the president and the GOP controls the Senate. Feminists do not have a "stranglehold" on the government, dude. Undue influence, sure, but there's no lockdown of power. This is a terrible move by Trump. All it will do is cause Democrats to feel women in particular need even more protections. But you know what? When they change the definitions back, it'll help male victims too. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 06:01 AM |
| 5 | Trump apparently changed the definitions of domestic violence to include only physical violence that rises to the level of a felony. This is a massive blow to all DV victims, but especially to men, who suffer less severe forms of DV from women at greater rates than the reverse.Nah, I agree with /u/thereslcjg2000. If conservatives were ridiculing someone like Hillary about some bodily feature, they'd call "body shaming" in a heartbeat. I was really pissed when some asshats in NYC put up this statue of him in Union Square, because if anyone had done something similar to Hillary, the Left would have gone nuclear. Sadly, our side is strongly hypocritical when it comes to this sort of thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/20 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Trump to change domestic violence and sexual assault definitionsStill, Trump redefining DV this way doesn't help you as a victim in the slightest. What we need is a president who is willing to stand up for male victims and tell the DV shelters of the country to take in men or lose their funding. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 03:21 AM |
| 0 | Trump to change domestic violence and sexual assault definitionsYou have to be incredibly myopic to think that this will result in a net benefit for male victims down the road. The definitions will be changed again as soon as Trump is out of office, and then whichever Democrat is in charge will take measures to ensure they can't be changed again. The solution to the problem you're citing is for the laws to be enforced in a non-biased manner. If Trump was really trying to help male victims, he'd have introduced legislation or made an executive order to that e… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 03:18 AM |
| 1 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.Yeah, I saw your edit, that's why I began my comment the way I did. Doesn't excuse your bigoted comments. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/20 03:12 AM |
| 8 | MRAs: How do you feel about the Honey Badgers and being led, more or less, by women?Also, if you're looking for additional MRA responses, I would suggest posting this on /r/leftwingmaleadvocates as well. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 11:49 PM |
| 7 | MRAs: How do you feel about the Honey Badgers and being led, more or less, by women?MRAs, how do you feel about men's rights being largely helmed by women? It's not. The Honey Badgers don't "helm" the movement, and at this point, I don't think anyone does. The Honey Badgers started (I think) as a group of women who were interested in men's issues, and both they and male MRAs realized they had a unique capacity to bring said issues into public awareness, because—being women—they couldn't as easily be written off with the usual stereotypical pejoratives thrown our way (just a bun… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 11:47 PM |
| 18 | Woman kills husband, only gets 9 year sentence. She is now appealing, saying the sentence is “excessive.”I hope they increase her sentence on appeal. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Trump to change domestic violence and sexual assault definitionsThe Trump Justice Department’s definition only considers physical harm that constitutes a felony or misdemeanour to be domestic violence – meaning other forms of domestic violence such as psychological abuse, coercive control and manipulation no longer fall under the department’s definition. No, this doesn't help male victims at all. Statistics still show that the DV committed by women against men tends to be less severe on average than that committed by men against women. This will make it hard… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 10:45 PM |
| 2 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.I've had a lot of experiences debating feminists on Reddit wherein they ignore facts and arguments they find inconvenient, and just don't respond to them. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 09:50 PM |
| 15 | "Violence against women and domestic violence in the Netherlands: GREVIO calls for a stronger gender perspective"Excellent find. It's so disgusting to see proof that feminists actively want approaches to domestic violence to continue being focused on women and ignoring men. There's no acknowledgment of the new data, no acknowledgment that past data and even existing gaps are due to male victims not reporting, and no concern shown whatsoever to how a gendered approach reinforces this phenomenon. They just want all the funding to go towards helping women, and don't give a rats ass about male victims. Abhorre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 09:47 PM |
| 1 | U.S. Army wants female-empowering robot avenger meeting minderYou're a fucking moron. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 09:33 PM |
| 1 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.I'll respond to the last part in another comment later. Still waiting.... | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 09:31 PM |
| 2 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.Only third- and fourth-wave feminism are considered intersectional. No, only third- and fourth require intersectionality. You can still be second-wave and be intersectional. And she herself is discriminating people and women who are different to her. That's not very intersectional of her Intersectionality doesn't bar that sort of thing at all. And you're the one characterizing her as discriminating "against" people, I'm sure she wouldn't characterize herself that way. Intersectionality is, in fa… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 09:30 PM |
| 1 | U.S. Army wants female-empowering robot avenger meeting minderFuck off, ya tradcon dipshit. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Australia: A Broome father who lost two daughters in a murder-suicide is speaking out about his frustrations with the Family Court system. "They actually wanted to believe me, you could see it in them but they just wouldn't stick their neck out and say 'hey this guy might be right'." Tweet with me.Just crossposted this to /r/leftwingmaleadvocates. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Australia: A Broome father who lost two daughters in a murder-suicide is speaking out about his frustrations with the Family Court system. "They actually wanted to believe me, you could see it in them but they just wouldn't stick their neck out and say 'hey this guy might be right'." Tweet with me.The first link in the /r/mensrights post is the one to the article about the incident, but I'll post it here for convenience sake as well: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/breakfast/harley-cuzens/11756594?fbclid=IwAR3HzG8niDKn-LzskIKdPHkIjrYcKMmL-SuYhnY0KJHB5BaHAHnt9dj8gEE | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 08:14 PM |
| 173 | Truth comes out, after she falsely accused him of abuse (projection) but she’s still listed in her Wikipedia page as an activist for domestic abuse awareness...that’s comical, and incredibly sad.Well, to be fair, they're not mutually exclusive things. One can do both, it just mean's you're a hypocrite. And she is. My hope is that the ACLU will soon drop her as their "ambassador" on domestic violence. If they don't, it will further cement my view that they've lost any claim to being an objective human rights organization. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 08:07 PM |
| 3 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.I mean she herself is not even a third-wave feminist. She is against transgender rights, sex-worker rights, male feminists, and so on. None of that is incompatible with intersectionality as a concept, which just demonstrates that you don't actually know what it means, despite claiming to. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 07:23 PM |
| 4 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?No problem! Also, something you should know about Bernie is that he's opposed to colleges handling sexual assault accusations under Title IX—a position for which I can't laud him enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 07:01 PM |
| 3 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.She nor her site are not intersectional feminist in the slightest. Meghan Murphy thinks all feminism is intersectional. Presumably, she includes herself in that. You can disagree with her if you like and deny her the label all you want; what this shows is that your notions of which feminists do or do not qualify as intersectional are highly subjective. EDIT: Relevat text: MM: They most certainly were not intersectional feminists. Intersectionality means that you consider the way in which various… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 06:49 PM |
| 1 | U.S. Army wants female-empowering robot avenger meeting minderI don't have a problem with the discussion or the content, just the link. I don't think that website should be getting our clicks. I wouldn't have a problem if it was an archive link. Now, you go away. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 06:18 PM |
| 5 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.I did a quick search-around on google and twitter and I didn't find anything that looked like a modern inter-sectional feminist there. Then you barely tried. It's not hard at all to find examples of mainstream, intersectional feminists supporting Heard and urging people to side with her, even though they didn't have all the facts. But, as you've already made clear, even if they claim to be intersectional feminists, you don't count them if they say anything that doesn't jive with your view of wha… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 06:13 PM |
| 1 | U.S. Army wants female-empowering robot avenger meeting minderCan we please keep links to this Holocaust-denying, all-but-openly White Nationalist, alt-right shitrag off this sub, please? | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Oh, and I'd forgotten about this. One of the reasons I support Bernie. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Edit: also, what OCR policies are you talking about? I summarized them for another user here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 03:59 PM |
| 3 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.No. Depp has filed a defamation case against her, but it's a civil suit—he's suing her, asking for $50 million in damages. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 03:51 PM |
| 14 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.No, you aren't being fair. Hang around on the sub more, rather than coming into one post with an already ingrained bias and patting yourself on the back as soon as you see anything that confirms that bias, no matter how rare it is compared to everything else. Whenever feminists defend feminism against criticism, they claim that feminism isn't a monolith and that the movement shouldn't be judged by their bad actors. Yet they're perfectly willing to judge MRAs in sweeping, broad brush strokes. So,… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 03:45 PM |
| 13 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.I'll start referring to specific branches of feminism being bad when I see that the bad feminist actors are actually divided that way. So far, that's not what I've seen. Yes, you think so, but you're wrong. I'd need proof to believe that. You need proof, because you can't fathom intersectional feminists behaving badly, which is just a testament to your bias. Where's your proof none did and it was all radfems? I'd need proof to believe that. Then they're not intersectionals. Intersectionals are f… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 03:35 PM |
| 21 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.Whenever feminists sing feminisms praises, they don’t refer to specific branches of it, they lump everyone together. As soon as they get criticized though, then it’s “we’re not all the same, that’s unfair.” I don’t think you’re right though—I think plenty of intersectional feminists supported Heard and were calling for Depp to be cancelled. Most of the feminists I’ve met have been intersectionalists, but they’ve nonetheless displayed varying degrees and bias and misandry. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?No prob. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Yes. He wrote a letter to the OCR, telling them to tell colleges that receive federal funding to revamp their sexual assault investigation policies and start being aggressive about pursuing them or risk losing their funding. A lot of the mandated changes were good, but a few were bad (such as lowering the standard of evidence to the "preponderance of evidence" standard (guilty if judges are just 51% sure). Colleges have since just started auto-convicting any male student accused, and aren't allo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 10:25 AM |
| 2 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Office for Civil Rights. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 08:27 AM |
| 8 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?Here's one: https://www.wbur.org/politicker/2016/11/21/bernie-sanders-berklee Here's another in which he demonstrates the same attitude: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/1/18246394/bernie-sanders-reparations-slavery-2020-harris-booker-warren Don't get me wrong, he's very into social justice, he just thinks the focus needs to be on the working class, rather than identity politics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/20 06:11 AM |
| 765 | The #1 Twitter trend right now is #JusticeForJohnnyDepp. The support for him FINALLY getting justice is incredible.Love all the feminists making an about-face and tweeting that feminism isn't about defending abusers, whichever their gender. 'Cept hordes of feminists did defend this abuser, precisely because she's a woman. Apparently, tons of feminists aren't feminists. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 01:02 AM |
| 56 | In the UK, Amber Heard could have murdered Johnny Depp and gotten away with it. AND, remember- she was a speaker at the Women's MarchYeah, that was really disgusting. And they defended it by saying she'd done her time and was talking about prison issues for women, because she'd become reformed. I'm all for letting people who've changed reintegrate into society, but choosing someone guilty or torturing a bound man to death as a speaker for women's issues is profoundly cold-hearted. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/20 01:00 AM |
| 17 | Which of the democratic presidential candidates supports men?All of them would claim they do. Most would then start talking about women. A few thoughts and observations: Bernie has rejected the social justice narrative about everything revolving around race and gender multiple times, and insisted the focus should be on class. I very much support him in this. Biden is mainstream and as such hasn't adopted as much of the social justice mantras as some other candidates, but he is also extremely likely to reintroduce the OCR mandates that Obama initiated, whi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/20 11:15 PM |
| 21 | Amber Heard: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' "Video" link in the article contains Heard admitting she can't control her physical violence when she's angry. Female violence isn't acknowledged enough when it comes to male victims.This is just one celebrity case, but I think it's reflective of how women are generally given a pass by society when it comes to their domestic violence. When society looks at it (and it rarely does) it always asks, "what did he do that brought her to such an extreme state," never blames her for her extreme reaction. This article is an exception. Yes, it's the Daily Mail, but I've found the the DM—while it's generally a trash rag—does highlight some issues that the mainstream media willfully ign… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/20 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.Yes, but in Watchmen, the blurring of the roles of hero and villain is the point, which supports what I'm saying. Ozymandias is one of the world's greatest heroes, and one of the most incorruptible, in that he doesn't seem to have any of the character flaws that corrupt the other heroes. Still, his zeal to save humanity from themselves (cartoonishly mirrored by the Comedian) causes him to do something villainous. The same can be said of #metoo: an undeniably good intention as its motivation, but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/20 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.Yeah, but that was about registering any woman accused of doing something harmful, not about registering only women proven to have done something harmful. Very similar to this "Shitty Media Men" list in that it's based effectively on rumor and opinion, so certainly provocative, but ultimately harmful in the same fashion. If it was just a satirical suggestion, I'd give Paul Elam credit for lampooning the irrationality of the feminists he opposes, but the fact that he actually did it in earnest me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/20 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.The return of mob rule? No thanks. No positive impact to me. I think the positive impact one has to acknowledge is that it resulted in tons of actual victims being able to voice their experiences, and at least one actual rapist/sexual assaulter/harasser (Harvey Weinstein) to be taken down. It also drew attention to the problem of cultural silence in Hollywood about this issue, which I do believe was a serious problem. You know well-meaning extremists, the kind who wants world peace or to save th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/20 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Quebec government to re-evaluate the $120,000 annual public funding given to province’s biggest women’s federation after its president suggested that heterosexual relationships should be bannedThis is Trudeau's government. They won't lose a dime, and I'll bet she keeps her job. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/20 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.Okay, that’s what I thought you meant. Unfortunately, I agree—there are plenty of historical trends that you see repeatedly throughout history, and there’s no reason not to expect them to repeat here as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 06:05 PM |
| 8 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.I've often wondered about the apoplexy that would result if someone with influence suggested putting women who had been proven to have lied about a rape accusation on a list (similar to the sex-offender registry). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 01:41 PM |
| 1 | White KnightsBut it seems from my cursory search that the "Libertarian" side is indeed the predominant one on KiA. That's been my impression too. It's hard to find spaces where there's a lot of breathing room for left-wing, progressive but woke-critical (aka Krystal Ball), this sub is one of the few places Amen, brother. It's sad that Leftists seem so reluctant to express criticism of these radical elements in our camp. Our silence is what's putting them in power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Sign Petition to Congratulate Bettina Arndt’s Aus Day Honour – for Men’s equalityEven just pragmatically speaking, you'd have to find a feminist who did pretty much exactly what she did—interview a known child molester and defend her, and holding her victim partially responsible—to even have a chance at convincing a substantial portion of the public to be more lenient with Arndt. And even then, I don't think I'd be on board. This is vile behavior, and I'm not going to defend someone for it just because it pragmatically suits my interests. Besides, this isn't the only questio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Sign Petition to Congratulate Bettina Arndt’s Aus Day Honour – for Men’s equalityI’m more of the mind that the people who say teenage boys want it should be regarded as child-molester-supporting pieces of shit too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 07:10 AM |
| 3 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.like when you talk to people who were against segregation because they can’t accept they were wrong or bad people. Did you mean to say “against desegregation?” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 06:42 AM |
| 3 | White KnightsBut the Trump thing showed that there quite a few people on there who didn’t really care so much about the defending video games from demonisation, as using people’s dislike of Anita Sarkeesian as a way to “redpill” gamers to the right, even when the right can be as bad or worse in demonising games. I out I on that sub, and while I don’t doubt it’s a magnet for conservatives, since it’s anti-SJW/feminist, I think if what you’re saying was true, I’d be seeing a lot more highly upvoted comments ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Sign Petition to Congratulate Bettina Arndt’s Aus Day Honour – for Men’s equalitySorry, but after doing some research on this woman, I can’t say I want her counted as a famous advocate for men. One example of what I’ve found about her: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/teacher-jailed-for-molesting-and-sexually-assaulting-a-15yearold-said-it-was-awesome/news-story/d7cec55508471578898d7163393f2bc1 Relevant text: Ms Arndt continues: “Over the years I’ve talked to many male teachers about sexually provocative behaviour from female students. Sensible teachers … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 06:23 AM |
| 14 | Medium post from a guy on the Shitty Media Men list, who claims he lost his job and is being shunned by his industry over a false accusation.As much as anyone is practically obligated to acknowledge the positive impact of #metoo, the fact of the matter is that it is a form of mob justice, and features no protections against false accusations. This is a major problem that is taboo to point out in society, so the men who become victims of it have no voice, because no one in the media will give them a platform to tell their stories. This, combined with Obama’s OCR mandates, are ruining the lives of countless innocent men. I hope that at… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/20 05:58 AM |
| – | How much income and wealth inequality would you accept in your version of the best possible society?This post was reported for not being about men’s issues, but after a recent mod discussion, it was decided that this rule will only come into effect in cases wherein the issue in question cannot be argued to be one that affects men predominantly or be relevant to men in particular. As men occupy both the most highly-paid and lowly-paid professions, wealth inequality can be argued to be particularly relevant to men, so I’m approving it. If anyone has issues with this, please message the moderator… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/20 11:24 PM |
| 19 | My take on "5 seemingly harmless things that are actually sexist."Can't say I'm all that impressed by this, to be honest. It's exclusively about sexism against women, which is in and of itself sexist. 1.) Expecting women to always smile. Barely anyone does this anymore. 2.) Backing off only when she says she's 'taken.' This happens because plenty of women actually do accept a guy's advances after initially turning him down, which trains men to keep trying. Men are the performers when it comes to courtship, and women the gatekeepers. Saying it's sexist of men t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/20 11:10 PM |
| 3 | What exactly are the consequences of 'hypergamy'?I think one of the main issues is that it contributes to the breakdown of family structures in poor communities, and broken families are a major factor in generational poverty. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/20 10:21 PM |
| 1 | White KnightsRemoved: Rule 8. Don't call people pussies on this sub. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/20 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Katelyn Faber, the woman who falsely accused Kobe of rape, 'gangsta raps' about "being raped"WTF??? | /r/MensRights | 29/01/20 02:40 AM |
| 4 | Arizoma woman tries to get pregnant using frozen embryo. Thoughts?I believe it’s legally yours if it’s biologically yours or you signed the birth certificate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/20 12:59 AM |
| 6 | Arizoma woman tries to get pregnant using frozen embryo. Thoughts?Legally, child support is considered a right of the child; parents have no rights not to pay it in any circumstance AFAIK. Consider this case, for example. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 11:58 PM |
| 13 | Arizoma woman tries to get pregnant using frozen embryo. Thoughts?I’d heard about this case before, when the previous court decided in her favor. Glad the appellate court saw reason and reversed the decision. It would be preferable that the embryos be destroyed, if that’s in accordance with the wishes of either party, but I’m guessing their disagreement left the court with no option but to have them donated. If she’d been able to use the embryos, he’d be liable for child support legally. As the guy’s lawyer said: no one should be forced to become a parent agai… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Is the male libido in the way of an egalitarian society?Well, it's all a problem, but making the distinction is important for knowing how to solve it. I honestly think most guys just need more people telling them those sorts of comments make women feel uncomfortable and encouraging them to be more mindful about making them online. The real creeps aren't going to be stopped by that though, and require other approaches. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 07:42 PM |
| 2 | ACLU: Ruth Bader Ginsburg Fought Discrimination Against MenYes, which is why I made the suggestions later about improving services for the poor in the U.S. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Is the male libido in the way of an egalitarian society?Oh, I know creepy women too, and of all ages. I believe that the men who make such comments on YouTube are desperate for sexual attention from women, and they try to get that by sexualizing those that they see on screen. I think you're certainly right about some of them, but I would actually argue it's a minority of the ones making the comments. Most that I've seen online seem to be expressions of desire that are really intended as signals to other males, rather than the female YTer in question.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Is the male libido in the way of an egalitarian society?Well, I think in general, women are raised to be more socially conscious and careful than men are. I think that accounts for a lot of it. I don't really think it's that women don't have similar thoughts, they're just trained to keep them to themselves most of the time. For women, the downside is that this often results in a neglect of their libido, whereas for men, we suffer from over-indulgence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 05:55 PM |
| 6 | Ryerson Student Union dropped for corruption allegations- the same student union that blocked a men's issues group.There is a real crisis with feminists and social justice academics having pretty well taken over the higher education systems in multiple countries. In fact, I would argue it's a problem for the Humanities as a whole, because the line between researcher and activist has become blurred to the point where it is really affecting the value of the science that comes out of these fields. Researchers welcome a real threat to their intellectual work with they become activists about the things they resea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 05:46 PM |
| 4 | Is the male libido in the way of an egalitarian society?While I certainly agree that creepy, sexist online comments about appearance is something women have to deal with to a far greater degree than men, I'm always a little bit skeptical when I hear people claim that this is what's holding women back from being successful on YouTube, for example. The woman the video you linked to claims that these comments increase the pressure of female YTers to "be the whole package," meaning be knowledgeable and good presenters, but also be attractive, or that the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 05:28 PM |
| 4 | ACLU: Ruth Bader Ginsburg Fought Discrimination Against MenJust looked that up and read it. Oof. Yeah, a lot of leftists being pretty hostile to her and championing European-style hate speech bans. I think a good number of people on the Left right now are a bit paranoid about the "resurgence of fascism" in the U.S. That's not to say there aren't legitimate concerns about xenophobia in response to increased immigration and the ways in which existing hate groups are capitalizing on it, but some people on the Left right now seem to think we're in real dang… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 04:41 PM |
| 25 | How does this get 189k likes? Why is misandry cool?He should still do it. Only way to expose Twitter's bias is by reporting. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/20 07:18 AM |
| 2 | It turns out that at least for Alcoa Aluminum, reducing worker accidents actually results in employee engagement and more value for stockholders.I know, I looked at the article. If he were trying to raise awareness of this in particular as a men's issue, I would agree it was appropriate. The issue has always been about how men are more likely to do the dangerous work of society (no matter the level of safety protections) compared to women, due to our gender role. The rule about posts being about men's issues is really about keeping generalized content out of the sub; we want it to be about men's issues, not Left-wing politics in general.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 05:11 AM |
| 1 | It turns out that at least for Alcoa Aluminum, reducing worker accidents actually results in employee engagement and more value for stockholders.Sorry, OP, but this isn’t sufficiently related to men’s issues. While men certainly suffer the vast majority of workplace injuries, the article isn’t about the gender divide or anything particularly related to men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 04:57 AM |
| 39 | How does this get 189k likes? Why is misandry cool?Report her. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/20 04:53 AM |
| 22 | ACLU: Ruth Bader Ginsburg Fought Discrimination Against MenI knew this about Ginsberg already, but yes, it’s worth disseminating here. I used to support the ACLU, because it used to be a non-partisan organization devoted to defending everyone’s freedoms. Sadly, it’s become a partisan organization that picks and chooses which demographic groups to defend based on modern “woke” attitudes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/20 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Why is it men killing themselves in greater numbers is proof of toxic masculinity but women....Secondly, women survive more often than men because they often don't do it on purpose to actually kill themselves. They are looking for attention and are trying to manipulate the people around them. Men actually commit suicide with the intention of dying and not being rescued last second. This seems like a perfect example of toxic femininity to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/20 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Later than I intended, but here's my video about how CNN encourages misandric attitudes.Overall, I agree with your analysis, but I don't think these patterns are contained to America. From what I've seen the same patterns can be seen in UK politics. The Tories lied through their teeth in the months going up to the Brexit referendum, but Labour has been behind many of the attempts to close women's prisons in the UK and get women more lenient sentences than men for the same crimes, and all of that has employed dishonest arguments and biased statistics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/20 11:13 PM |
| 22 | Firms urged to crack down on office football chat | Gotta ban anything men enjoy that women don't, apparently.I don’t like sports either, but I do this really tricky, devious thing with the sports fans at my office to get them to talk to me: I bring up another topic of conversation that we’re all interested in. Works like a charm, and the fools don’t even realize how I’ve duped them. Mwahahahaha | /r/MensRights | 27/01/20 03:28 PM |
| 1 | 2 Women Filed Sexual Misconduct Complaints Against a Nigerian Immigrant a Day Before He Graduated From Harvard. He Never Got His Diploma.Counter-racism is not the solution to racism, bro. Get off the hate wagon. It'll only lead you to bad outcomes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 11:58 PM |
| 1 | 2 Women Filed Sexual Misconduct Complaints Against a Nigerian Immigrant a Day Before He Graduated From Harvard. He Never Got His Diploma.Being wary of actual racists is wise, but generalizing racism to an entire demographic group is just racist. Same goes for sexism. So, when you say you tell your Black, male friends to stay away from White women, you're expressing a racist belief. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Okay. You do you, man. But I don't think you're going to be very successful telling people that all feminists are man-haters. Your views don't reflect reality or at least most people's experiences of it. I think you'd fare better if you had less extreme views, but whatever. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What feminists call "internalized misogyny" could just as easily be called "toxic femininity". Women have agency too.I was referring to "toxic masculinity/femininity," not "internalized misogyny/misandry." The former is bad, because it demonizes a gender identity; the latter is better, because it more precisely refers to what the former is trying to get at: ways in which people harm themselves by adhering to restricting social constructs about gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 04:14 PM |
| 3 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?I completely agree with you. I think MensLib has its heart in the right place, but it's focused on the wrong side of the problem, and thus isn't helping men. Men suffer, because society is biased against us, not because we aren't "woke" enough for modern society. I don't like traditionalist cultures either, but that has nothing to do with the male suicide rate, the prison sentencing gap, the empathy gap, male circumcision, the draft, etc. The problems for men lie in society, not men. Feminists u… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Would you have said the same to African American radicals in the past? I said the same thing to a militant Black woman, who was talking about how violent revolution was the only solution to racism in the U.S. just a few months ago. Telling someone to get therapy when they have valid reasons for feeling the way they do and act rather rational about it is at best a form of misdirection and frequently insulting. No, how you feel has nothing to do with it. I'm not suggesting you seek therapy because… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/20 04:00 PM |
| 7 | So, what can be done about the male suicide rate?There simply needs to be more outreach to men over mental health, and that’s on my field (the mental health professional community)—not male victims. This is why I can’t stand the toxic masculinity narrative: it blames men for having the problems they do and demands they change to help themselves, rather than demanding society change to help them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 10:34 PM |
| 9 | What feminists call "internalized misogyny" could just as easily be called "toxic femininity". Women have agency too.They’re both bullshit terms, meant to demonize the genders they’re talking about, rather than solve any real issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:47 PM |
| 2 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?Michael Kimmel was one of the key feminists involved in re-popularizing the term “toxic masculinity.” He’s literally the reason it’s in use today. Fuck him endlessly. I couldn’t give a shit how bad he ever gets it. He deserves it, fucking self-hating misandrist piece of shit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Mmm. Okay. I hear you. I really do. My advice is to get some therapy, dude. This path you’re on isn’t going to take you anywhere good, much less heal any of your pain. Best of luck, man..... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:14 PM |
| 6 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?Generally, I agree with you. I think toxic masculinity is academically defined in innocuous terms and represents a real cultural phenomenon: men being pressured to conform to stereotypes about the male gender role in Western society. However, it’s used so frequently by feminists in ways that simply associate the male gender with bad elements in society (e.g. racism, sexism, rape, mass shootings, war, etc) that it’s effectively a misandrist term. The fact that feminists don’t talk about toxic fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 04:58 PM |
| 6 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?He wrote an entire book, citing studies that showed most/all violent racism was from men and then argued that toxic masculinity was to blame. Not racists and their manipulation, which have also been shown to be effective—toxic masculinity. He essentially blamed all serious racism on men. I’m sure he would say women are racist too, but it’s men who cause the harm of racism, not women. He’s also published papers: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0891241606298825?journalCode=jcec. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 04:42 PM |
| 6 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?I'm not familiar with that incident or the Twitter commentary about it, but your characterization doesn't surprise me. Michael Kimmel has asserted a link between maleness and racism before, so it's not surprising that feminists would continue with this racism/sexism in the wake of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.I'm curious as to why you didn't take issue with me calling your views "extreme," as that's my underlying disagreement with you. It's not that you aren't making valid points about gender issues; my problem with your statements lies in the extremity with which you couch them rhetorically. It's like feminists defending the views of Valerie Solanas by saying that statistics show men are more violent towards women than the reverse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:48 AM |
| 3 | 2 Women Filed Sexual Misconduct Complaints Against a Nigerian Immigrant a Day Before He Graduated From Harvard. He Never Got His Diploma.The historical relationship and damage caused to Black Men by White Women (and White Society in general) is absolutely a gender issue and has always been. I would expect so called Left Wing Male Advocates to know and understand that. You're absolutely right that there often is an overlap between racism and sexism. That's where I have to give a nod to the feminist concept of intersectionality, because it is valid in that sense. Race and Gender are always linked. No, see, the problem lies in the a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 08:31 AM |
| 19 | 78% of suicide rates world wide are men, what can we do to help them?I’m happy to see the top comments are criticizing society, rather than men. That’s not congruent with the “toxic masculinity” narrative, so it’s good to see actual feminists getting away from that. We definitely need more criticism of actual misandry in society, and less criticism of men for being other than the way feminists would like them be for the sake of women’s preferences, which tend to hold sway over feminist talking points. Men and boys do need to be welcomed into the mental health com… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 04:26 AM |
| 1 | 2 Women Filed Sexual Misconduct Complaints Against a Nigerian Immigrant a Day Before He Graduated From Harvard. He Never Got His Diploma.When it comes to race, there are wholly other dynamics that come into play. I would encourage you to not make race an issue unless it needs to be, and I don’t necessarily think it need to be when it comes to gender issues. I’m aware of the fact that there are race issues at play when it comes to cross-race dating, and those deserve to be talked about. If you have something to say about it, I would encourage you to write a post, connecting race issues to gender ones, as I think this sub sorely ne… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Not how I felt you were more than polite and reasonable we just tend to disagree on various mindsets. Just because we disagree a lot doesn’t mean we can’t be polite with one another and freely exchange ideas and how our thoughts and feelings are and why we think/feel certain things. This is the attitude I feel might do you well with dealing with feminists, although I understand that my own attitude is Alex component as well, which they might not be exhibiting. To that, I say: be better than them… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.You’re extreme. I don’t know how else to put it. I could respond to your individual points, but there’s a running theme in your post that I don’t think I’d be able to counter without being there in person with you. I’ve dealt with people who have extremist views like yours before, and my experience tells me that you can’t be reasoned with, at least not online. If your experiences with feminists have happened online a lot, you might want to consider that—text-based communication is a terrible way… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/20 02:46 AM |
| 8 | Urban dictionary is hilarious“This is just more proof that society is incredibly misogynist.” —Feminists | /r/MensRights | 25/01/20 01:20 AM |
| 11 | It’s about time we talked about women’s harassment of male partnersI agree this woman is a PoS, and I do think there need to be laws that punish people like her, but...thing is...making people who encourage others to commit suicide guilty of murder/manslaughter could potentially be a very slippery slope. How long is it before people who can be argued to have emotionally abused their partners (an important, but highly nebulous concept) are held responsible if those partners commit suicide? This could quickly become a horrendous fiasco and miscarriage of justice … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/20 02:35 AM |
| 4 | Single men are now half as likely to buy homes as single women. Women own more homes than men18% vs 7%, is as closer to three times more than twice as more. This is a huge gap, and is a sign that young men are significantly economically disadvantaged. Not really. IIRC, men still make on average slightly more than women make. The fact that they're not buying homes as much as single women are probably boils down to many single women having children with primary/sole custody, so they need more space. That begs the question: what are single men spending their money on? I would wager a signi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/20 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.If you want MRAs to have a less chance of getting to the stage I am you have to deal with the feminists not us, but I don't know how you would do that when becoming a feminist is such a self selecting thing where the chances of them hating men are sky high. The way I see it, most feminists are well-meaning people with variable degrees of anti-male bias, and most MRAs are well-meaning people with variable degrees of anti-feminist bias. Therefore, being on the feminist side of the spectrum makes n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/20 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.I'm sorry you've had such shitty experiences with them. Mine have been more mixed. Some feminists are true misandrists and are truly cruel to men. Some aren't. It's a shame you haven't met more of the latter, and I certainly wish they accounted for a greater percentage of feminists than they do (they like to think they're the norm, but they're not). Still, you're basically admitting that you have a bias against feminists, due to your past experiences. While that's understandable, it doesn't chan… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Instead of glorifying or demonizing "traditional masculinity", why don't we celebrate multiple masculinities?They frequently claim that's what they're trying to do. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.The notion that "feminists hate men" is by no means as clear cut as you say. Arguments exist on either side, which is why it's such a hotly debated topic. You and I probably agree about much of it, but where we differ is that I can empathize with why other people disagree, whereas you don't seem to be able to (no offense, it's just the sense I'm getting from you here). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:51 AM |
| 5 | ThankyouIf you feel up to it at a later time, please reconsider posting. I have the sense that most contributors here are quite young. It would be nice to get some input from a senior. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:49 AM |
| – | Wealth InequalityThis post doesn't seem to be related to men's issues, but since there's already a decent discussion going on, I'm going to leave it up. Still, please try to keep posts related to the topic of the sub. Posts about wealth inequality are not okay simply because they apply to men too; the post should focus on it's specific applicability to men and relevant gender issues that reveal a difference between that and how they apply to women. Please keep this in mind for future posts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:47 AM |
| 8 | Instead of glorifying or demonizing "traditional masculinity", why don't we celebrate multiple masculinities?Yeah, I think this notion of redefining masculinity is dumb, and I cannot fathom why feminists can't see that it runs counter to their mandate to destroy gender norms, such that masculinity and femininity aren't things people adhere to at all. They never tried to redefine femininity, they just said women shouldn't be held to it. Not the same tack their taking at all to masculinity; instead it's this, "we need to create a new masculinity for men" bullshit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.By that same logic people like MLK were not successful. The Panthers helped organize their people and save their lives against a racist people and state that supported them. That is a totally false comparison. MLK inspired pretty much his entire race, which led to the overturning of segregation laws in the country. The Black Panthers have no such legacy. The way I look at it is when someone joins up a movement that is plainly obvious to see is at best openly sexist against men they are almost al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:30 AM |
| 2 | Why can’t we hate men?Nah, she didn't hang herself. There's been no fallout from that article for her, aside from some angry letters. Someone tried to get her fired by filing a Title IX complaint IIRC, but the university and the government refused to investigate it. She's fine. I'm sure it actually got her a lot of credit among her peers, and anyone in the academic world knew to keep their mouth shut if they valued their career. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Going to the Women's March made me feel more wary and anti-feminism. Mocking male DV victims.Actually, my impression of the feminists who frequent /r/askfeminists is that they're mostly full-timers. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/20 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.No they were pretty successful How were they successful? The Black Panthers are pretty much completely defunct, and Black people are still on the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder in the U.S. Not false when it is demonstrably true we literally have had feminists protesting male domestic violence shelters or influencing the law to where men can't be raped. I am sorry but when it is that in your face saying otherwise is at best wearing blinders or sticking your head in the sand. That many feminis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.A large question, but the simplest in-context answer that comes to mind is basically the variability hypothesis. Even considering gender related trends, the upper level of ability in any particular skill set will probably skew male. Yes, but you said women are more predisposed to acquiring social power. If that's the case, then why have men ruled civilization (social power)? One would think women would be much more prone to seeking control over society if that were the case. I think of the socia… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/20 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Not violence self defense when the police worked with the racists against African Americans to have them killed Huey P Newton was right arming oneself and being prepared for war and refusing to go down without a fight was the right choice. This is a war and they are winning and more than willing to use brutal tactics No, Newton was wrong and the Black Panthers failed. That's pretty plain to see. They are not bad actors when they are supported by the majority. For crying out loud feminists have s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 08:10 PM |
| 4 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Your descriptions are a gross exaggeration of what is going on or at least the extent to which it's going on. We are still able to have dialogues about these issues, and we're not the only ones wary of feminist attempts to silence people who disagree with them. But if we take the bait and resort to violence, we play right into the stereotypes about us. The only way we can win is by being better than them, and exposing their bad actors. No minority group ever won through violence. Plenty have won… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 07:46 PM |
| 5 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.Precisely. Antifa is probably the most ironic hate movement I've ever witnessed come into being, as it uses fascist tactics in the name of fighting fascism. And, like all other fascists, they claim it's justified, because it's "for the greater good." It's all just born of irrational, exaggerated fear. Same problem, different manifestation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 07:39 PM |
| 7 | Going to the Women's March yesterday only increased my skepticism of feminism.You can't dialogue with nazis who want your kind put in gas chambers such as some feminist academics have called for. Actually, you can. While I'm sympathetic to your frustration, I would urge you to never stop trying to reason with those who disagree with you. The more we stop talking across the aisle, the closer we get to violent confrontation. Also, I'm always somewhat heartened when I see feminists behaving in sexist ways, because I know that will only work to dismantle their popularity in t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 07:25 PM |
| 4 | Going to the Women's March made me feel more wary and anti-feminism. Mocking male DV victims.I think calling feminism a hate movement makes about as much sense as calling the MRM one. Things are much more complicated than that. I've met plenty of feminists who are open to talking about men's issues to and are quite reasonable. They don't need to drop the label of feminism to be rational. Most recognize there are some bad feminists out there, they just don't realize how many of them exist at the heart of their movement today. I do agree though, getting casual feminists to see reason ofte… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/20 07:18 PM |
| 5 | Going to the Women's March made me feel more wary and anti-feminism. Mocking male DV victims.ALL feminists are nuts. Statements like that just reveal you to be out of touch with reality. I have no time for idiocy of that caliber, sorry. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/20 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.If that so much the case, then why have men ruled our civilizations for most of recorded history? Don't get me wrong, I see what you're saying, I just think positing a desire for control over men is misunderstanding root of the issue. You said before you didn't mean it was a malicious desire, but I guess I'm having trouble understanding the distinction you're trying to make, because wanting to control another person is inherently malicious. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I may be missing something in what you are saying here, but it would seem to be that your essential position is that women are "winning" the relationship game because men are ceding the field. I don't really see it as "winning" or "losing," but...yes? I just think women are trying to solve problems men don't really think exist or have different ways of solving. When men step on each others' toes in male-male friendships, we tend to resolve this by giving each other more space, whereas women solv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 07:07 PM |
| 11 | My first video, on what drove me away from feminism and towards the MRM. I promise I'll improve in my videos to come!Nice introductory video! I didn't have quite the same ostracizing experiences you did growing up (I was bullied a lot, but I usually had at least one friend), but I smelled the bad on feminism as soon as I learned about it. It wasn't shoved down my throat or anything, and I didn't really care much about it at first, but the "girl power!" and "ugh, men" crap reared its head quite quickly, and I realized feminism wasn't the same as the civil rights movement—as much as it fought for women in import… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 08:35 AM |
| 12 | Going to the Women's March made me feel more wary and anti-feminism. Mocking male DV victims.Well, I don't blame you for feeling bummed out about it. I wouldn't want to be around a bunch of man-haters either. Maybe next year bring a camera, get it all on film, and then use it to discredit the entire movement? :-D | /r/MensRights | 19/01/20 06:28 AM |
| 65 | Going to the Women's March made me feel more wary and anti-feminism. Mocking male DV victims.I think the casual feminist is far closer to an egalitarian than a full-time feminist is. The more feminism defines your life, the more anti-male you get. At that march, you probably had a much higher concentration of full-timers than normal. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/20 06:23 AM |
| 54 | Why can’t we hate men?This is one of my favorite articles to cite when talking about misandry in feminism, because it's by a very prominent feminist academic, not some radfem nutter on Tumblr. So, when the feminist I'm talking to goes, "well, she's just a bad feminist, that's not feminism," I go, "so I'm to trust you—some rando on the internet—to tell me what feminism is, rather than the feminist with a degree, who's published papers and runs an entire fucking gender studies department at a major university?" Suzanna… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 12:10 AM |
| 3 | Shoe0nHead Does Liz & Bernie SpatLOL, okay, I just wish she posted more. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/20 12:01 AM |
| 10 | Shoe0nHead Does Liz & Bernie SpatI love Shoe. Wish she posted more often, but glad she's probably off having a life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (12 January 2020)Shut up. Let the baby subreddits dream. Joking aside, what I mean is that I want debate to occur on the sub, and that means including people with non-egalitarian values, or at least people with differing views of what "egalitarian" means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 10:30 PM |
| 9 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (12 January 2020)Announcing /r/EqualRelationships! Hi, /r/PurplePillDebate! I just created a new subreddit for discussion of egalitarian principles in dating and relationships. It's intended to be an alternative to mainstream subs like r/relationshipadvice and the various "pill" subs, all of which I felt weren't focused enough on egalitarian principles and/or exhibited unnecessary political biases in their communities. Please come take a look if you're interested in discussing egalitarian views on relationships,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesI totally agree that the MRM owes a lot to feminism, in that feminism got most of the gender debates started in the first place. I would also agree that many Second Wave feminists supported the egalitarian views championed by DeCrow. However, as you point out, they didn't win. Modern feminism is a misandrist mutant of equality when it comes to gender egalitarianism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 03:34 PM |
| 5 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesThis is a classic example of feminists championing female privilege. r/menslib contributors take note! You can't advocate for men's rights fully without challenging feminist orthodoxy, because mainstream feminist views contradict rights for men. Karen DeCrow is a feminist you should be championing in defiance of the likes of Katherine Spillar (editor of Ms. Magazine, and a major feminist voice today). Feminists will never take a fully sympathetic view of men's issues, because sometimes those iss… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesFuck. I'd always heard about her having reasonable ideas about fathers' rights, but I didn't realize the extent to which she opposed feminist orthodoxy, to the point of saying "let's take the 'gender' out of the 'gender debate.'" God damn it, this woman is what we fucking need! The number of issues that have biological differences at their cores are tiny; women's and men's rights are human rights, by and large. Fucking A. Fuck feminists for exiling this woman. She was the best among them, as far… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesIf you can find a link that establishes NOW once supported fathers, I'd be interested to see it. Without proof, it seems politically intuitive that NOW would claim they support fathers' rights, while actually opposing them (which they have been for decades). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesThis is Katherine Spillar's position (editor of Ms. Magazine). Men get to exercise control of their parenthood by choosing to use contraceptives, but regardless of the effectiveness of said contraceptives, if a woman gets pregnant, it's the woman's choice. This is "justified" by the fact that women "bear the greater burden" of having a child, due to their biology. Katherine Spillar is a fucking sexist pig. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesLegal paternal surrender is a simple concept, but yes, implementation can be complicated. The problems stem from the fact that men aren't automatically aware that a woman they had sex with is pregnant, abortion can only be done in a limited timeframe, and women who choose to keep their men in the dark should not be able to deny them paternal rights just by staying silent. The best form of it I've seen is a gender-neutral "legal parental accountability" document. Basically, all parents should hav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Actress claims that man "molested" her. He got 3 years. The "molestation" refers to the guy putting his foot on her seat's armrest.Is there an article talking about it that you link to? I'd be interested to know the details. This seems like the kind of thing that could have been completely harmless...or he could have been intentional rubbing her arm with his toes or something. Something similar happened to me on an overnight train in France once. There are some creeps out there...just want to judge for myself if possible. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/20 01:53 AM |
| 5 | Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY TimesProps to u/Oncefa2 for making me aware of this in his excellent post. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/20 01:13 AM |
| 5 | Trump won the 2016 election because of a push-back against feminism and "leftist identity politics". Will something similar happen in 2020?Great post! I was especially interested by this claim, so I clicked the link. The National Organization For Women even used to support things like "financial abortions" for men, to go along with a women's right to an abortion (see here). Thing is, this is a view held by Karen DeCrow (a feminist famous for advocating for men as well as women). While she was president of the National Organization for Women from 1974 to 1977, this article was published in 1982. Do you have any evidence that N.O.W. … | /r/MensRights | 18/01/20 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Actress claims that man "molested" her. He got 3 years. The "molestation" refers to the guy putting his foot on her seat's armrest.Where's the part about him putting his foot on her armrest? The article you linked to provides no such details. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/20 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!Thanks! I'm not sure they'll sticky it, but I'll probably advertise again. Please enjoy the sub, and feel free to post and comment! | /r/MensRights | 17/01/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.Yeah, I'm just not sure the term is actually all that popular with women. I don't hear women using it often, at any rate. In fact, when I have seen it, it's with annoyance. So, I don't hear women say, "aww, his bromance with his best friend is so cute." Rather, I sometimes hear, "he can't go out on a date with me Friday, because his bromance with his buddies is more important!" And even then, not that often. I don't like the term either, I just can't say I've really seen it used to denigrate men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/20 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.Yeah, I suppose that's not my reading of what he's saying. I totally get that greater aptitude for social skills grants women an average advantage over men in relationships in some respects, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll use it to control said relationships in malicious or even just callous ways. u/magus678 seems to be suggesting there's an at least quasi-intentional antisocial motive involved on women's parts, and that's what I'm denying is the case. Again, my view is that women hav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/20 03:30 PM |
| 3 | r/femaledatingstrategy really showed me how some women view men, and I am scared as fuck. Are gay men welcomed in r/mensrights? I am finally starting to see it your way.Welcome! I'm glad you're starting to see that MRAs aren't what we're portrayed as in the media and popular culture. There's a lot more nuance here than most people realize. I think you'll find that, while some users here espouse traditionalist ideas about a lot of things, and the anti-feminism can sometimes go overboard, there's actually very little misogyny. And I don't think I've ever seen an instance of homophobia here. If you're interested in a men's rights sub that focuses on Left-wing pers… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/20 01:47 PM |
| 2 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say...It was a joke. You understand I don't actually think he should have said that, right? And you do get the joke, right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/20 01:35 PM |
| 4 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!Yeah, so this is always going to be a thorny issue, and I suspect I'll have to post something clarifying my thoughts on it at some point. Basically, the rule exists to provide a means to exclude a lot of the sexist X-pill views and rhetoric I've seen on other subs. I don't mind if the more reasonable members from those subs participate, but I don't want the sub taken over by the hardcore TRPers and whatnot. They're the kind of crowd that drive away people who are interested in interesting discus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 09:58 PM |
| 8 | Dr. Phil invites woman who had sex with her teenage son on his show, tells her she needs therapy not jail. Now imagine if a father slept with his daughter. Would anyone give him any sympathy?This shouldn’t surprise anyone. Dr. Phil is a typical traditionalist: tells men to man up and treats women like they’re pretty little things, made of glass. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 07:20 PM |
| 6 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!Totally valid choice. Doesn't mean you can't participate in discussions about dating if you care to though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!I hope to get some folks from PPD, but the mods there are only letting me post an ad for the sub in their weekly off-topic thread, which means it won't even show up in the post list, but be confined to a comment in a post that will disappear in a week. Hopefully some cross-posting should spread the word. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 06:12 PM |
| 4 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.Thus the lesson learned in this article is that "men who feel they cannot fully express themselves around their romantic partner should abandon those friendships that give them an emotional outlet because not doing so will negatively affect women in the future." I don't think that's the intended takeaway. What irritates me is the "but what about how this good thing for men affects women!" mentality, which takes up far more space than it should and fails to recognize that women have been doing th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I think I understand where you're coming from and what observations are fueling this view of yours, I just don't think I ultimately agree with it. Let me ask you something: what do you think drives this supposed desire for control in relationships among women, and why don't we see the same thing in men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 03:08 PM |
| 4 | Virginia Ratifies The Equal Rights Amendment, Decades After The DeadlineThe whole idea of the Hayden rider is completely anti-thetical to the ERA, and really betrays the cultural attitude is to protect women and women only, men be damned. Yeah, this is more or less what I meant, just more strongly stated. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 03:03 PM |
| 4 | Virginia Ratifies The Equal Rights Amendment, Decades After The DeadlineI agree, and I think such a clause is ripe for abuse in this day and age. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!I share your sentiments about the jargon. Unfortunately, I don't plan on implementing any rules to explicitly exclude it, at least not before the sub gets off the ground. I'm hoping that the rule barring demonization/generalizations about men and women will sufficiently discourage the less desirable pill types from participating. I have no desire to preside over another pill-war subreddit. We'll see how it goes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.LOL, that definitely comes across as conspiratorial. Is this a con that's being perpetuated by all women? How did women come to agree on its implementation? Where and when were the meetings? C'mon, dude. If that were true, lesbian relationships would become shitfests as a rule. No, to be honest, I think that's crazy talk. Read up on men's vs. women's communication and relationship styles some, and I think you'll start to see how differences in expectations and priorities in relationships between… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 02:43 PM |
| 7 | Virginia Ratifies The Equal Rights Amendment, Decades After The DeadlineThis! That bit was tacked on to appease some people's fears at the time that passage of the amendment would force women to be drafted for war alongside men. Since attitudes about that have changed significantly in the intervening decades, it no longer makes sense, and could easily negate the spirit of the amendment itself. I can't support the ERA with that bit included. I'm already nervous about how it's going to be enforced once/if it's passed, but that bit practically guarantees it will be use… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 02:01 PM |
| 3 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I don't think I agree that women tend to try to control most of the social situations they find themselves in, but I do think women tend to put more effort into managing their romantic relationships than men do. In my experience, men tend to take a more laissez-faire attitude toward relationships, whereas women are more likely to feel direct communication and management are necessary. The end result being that women extert more control in romantic relationships on average, but likely don't see i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!Thanks, but I tried cutting/pasting the text. I think the issue is that the word that's getting cut off "demographics" is just long enough to hit the line character limit and get shifted down to the next line (which you can't immediately see), making it look like the whole thing gets cut off. Not sure there's a real fix for that. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 01:28 PM |
| 8 | Only getting 50% of my husband's estate when he dies? Time to leave him!God, what an entitled cunt. She honestly expects her husband to leave her 100% if his assets and leave nothing for his daughter? And she has the gall to claim that leaving her anything less is an indication that he doesn’t consider her family? So, what, his daughter doesn’t count as family? Toxic femininity FTW. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 09:10 AM |
| 6 | Surprisingly decent article from The Guardian about the ways in which society discriminates against men, from all the way back in 2012.The NYT and WaPo have managed to at least maintain the caliber of their writing and journalism, but they've followed Fox News' example of late and become far more partisan in their selection of stories and editorials. That makes them worse IMO. Didn't read the Guardian until relatively recently, but they're in the same league. CNN, however, has truly diminished in quality over the past 10-20 years. I remember when they used to be a highly respectable news source; now they're practically a tabloi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!Thanks. I'm having some weird issues getting the rules to appear the way I want them to on the site. Will keep fidgeting. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Announcing /r/EqualRelationships!No prob, and enjoy! | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 06:41 AM |
| 2 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldIt's all kosher. This new sub is meant to be as inclusive as possible, while still maintaining a focus on discussion of egalitarian principles in relationships. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 04:45 AM |
| 5 | CNN lying and trying to weaponize feminism against Bernie in debateThey're not, but I personally suspect that individual relationships within the Democratic Party are playing a big factor too. I think Hillary fostered them and got "insider" status, and Bernie has never bothered to do so. I think there's a lot of bad blood against him inside some branches of the party, due to perceptions that he cost Hillary the election. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 04:09 AM |
| 8 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.Okay. I don't personally see the full rainbow of feminisms that feminists do. As a non-feminist, I'm mainly concerned with how the largest contingents impact the world. I see the things I criticized in my last comment frequently enough among mainstream feminists that I'm comfortable criticizing feminism proper for it, rather than using a more specific sub-category. IMO, it's only feminists who have any use in dividing themselves up this way; the rest of the world just sees feminists, radical fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 04:05 AM |
| 1 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldHold my beer. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 03:58 AM |
| 24 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.Something I dislike in this article is the hand-wringing that's done over how this increase in close male platonic relationships might be negatively affecting women's romantic relationships with men. Women have exhibited many of the same behaviors cited in this article (e.g. being more comfortable opening up to their same-sex friends, exhibiting us-vs-them attitudes, and even displaying casual sexism towards the opposite sex in the context of those same-sex relationships) for a long time, and no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 01:57 AM |
| 6 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I agree it's used to belittle platonic male friendships, but I'm not sure the term is primarily used by feminists. Do you have evidence for this or is it just your personal observation? EDIT: Wikipedia claims it was first coined by a journalist in the 1990's, and that it mainly came to prominence when it was picked up by film critics to describe a trend in Hollywood male-centered comedies in the 2000's (which is how I remember it coming into common parlance). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 01:42 AM |
| 17 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.While the term may refer to a real phenomenon (internalized misandry), the "toxic masculinity" approach is ass-backwards. Encouraging men and boys to open up more does nothing when the rest of society isn't being told not to punish them for doing so (societal misandry). And when it comes to women and girls, there's next to no discussion of how they need to change their behaviors in important ways, like taking on the burden of approaching men in dating contexts, and checking their subconscious mi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 01:35 AM |
| 13 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I don't like it either, tbh. It's corny, and carries with it a subtle homophobia that most young people using the word today probably claim they're above. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 01:20 AM |
| 4 | Google Maps is now highlighting if a business is women-led. Are they insinuating that we shouldn't support a restaurant if its not owned by a woman?No, not everywhere. Most metropolitan places, probably, but there are plenty of rural and suburban communities in which they're not universally accepted. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 01:08 AM |
| 12 | Surprisingly decent article from The Guardian about the ways in which society discriminates against men, from all the way back in 2012.So did The NY Times, WaPo, and CNN. Sad falls from grace. Woke culture poisons everything. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/20 12:04 AM |
| 9 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I've noticed a very strong interest in women to prune and curate their partner's social life to basically be just other couples. If there are single friends that are found "worthy" they will try to set them up. Your single friends that are not a big competition for time/attention may be tolerated, but those single friends that might be classified as "players" are almost certainly not. Hmm. I've certainly noticed this phenomenon, but I'm not sure how widespread it is. To be clearer—and I'm not tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 11:28 PM |
| 5 | Men Are More Satisfied By Bromances Than Their Relationships.I think relationships are getting harder to get into now, and men are overworked and underpaid. I think this leads to the erosion of male communities in general, and men often have to decide whether they are going to have romantic relationships, or platonic ones but they can't have both. Interesting. This hasn't been my experience or observation. I actually tend to have more female friends than male friends, but my closest friends are almost always male, and my male friendships have far and away… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 10:48 PM |
| 19 | Surprisingly decent article from The Guardian about the ways in which society discriminates against men, from all the way back in 2012.It focuses on the actual problem: the ways in which society discriminates against men, rather than couching it all in terms of "toxic masculinity." I only have a problem with one part: "The biggest challenge is … tackling the male tendency to suffer in silence," says Tim Samuels, presenter of Radio 5's Men's Hour. "We're getting better at admitting to our weaknesses or seeking help, but there's still such a long way to go." You acknowledge that there are all these institutional, systemic biases … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:43 PM |
| 5 | CNN lying and trying to weaponize feminism against Bernie in debateI wish CNN had a print edition so I wouldn't have to go shopping for toilet paper anymore. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:23 PM |
| 7 | CNN lying and trying to weaponize feminism against Bernie in debateI don't think it's necessarily financial. I think the DNC is behind this again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menBy the way, u/mtcapri, what is your favorite pro-feminist propaganda trope? I'm going to assume that by "favorite" you mean "most annoying." So hard to choose, as they're all pretty annoying. Maybe...the way they turn any men's issue into a women's issue by reframing it as a consequence of patriarchy, which they can do with pretty much anything, because they've increasingly defined patriarchy as "the way things were before feminism came along." Then they follow it up with "and feminism is agains… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:18 PM |
| 14 | Psychologist apologizes for misandric bias in family courtWow. As a fellow therapist (although not a Ph.D.), I can attest to just how colossal a fuck-up this was. Thing is, I don't have half that woman's training, but I'm well aware you don't make recommendations about child custody in a professional capacity without having interviewed both parents and all children involved. I've been involved in a just a couple family court cases in my 10 years of practicing. Now, since I'm not a psychologist and I don't work with children, I've never been called upon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 01:47 PM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayLOL, gotcha. (snaps fingers in applause) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menBad faith (Latin: mala fides) is double mindedness or double heartedness in duplicity, fraud, or deception. It may involve intentional deceit of others, or self-deception. I don't think he means to be approaching this topic in bad faith, I just think his framing of it in his own mind results in a bad faith approach. He's not seriously considering all of the evidence, which is why I accused him of being biased. As frustrating as I find it, I've run into this so many times with feminists it hardly… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menIn this specific thread, with respect to /u/spudmix's responses to me in particular, I would say he's engaged in bad faith. Presenting his anecdotal experience as evidence and then insisting only on academic research from a field that is saturated with feminists who can't be relied upon to document negative realities about feminism, coupled with his refusal to respond to my arguments and actual evidence of prominent, well-respected feminists exhibiting misandry is him presenting himself as open … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menDude, there is an utter dearth of research on feminists or feminism that isn't done by feminists themselves, and as I already pointed out, that's severely subject to researcher bias. You say you've done your research? How much of the research you found wasn't done by feminists? You act as though the public perception of feminists being misandrist has no basis in objective reality, and chalk it all up to anti-feminist bias in society. I've already pointed out that the issue isn't what feminists s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 08:05 AM |
| 1 | Messy divorce: Woman jailed after coaching daughter to post online false sexual allegations against ex-husbandSounds like the wife successfully alienated her children from their father to the point where even the court couldn't undo the damage, so it just gave up. At best, the mother will spend a week in jail and then return to have effective full custody of the kids. This is a perversion of the "best interests of the children" mandate. The judge should have ordered the children into the father's care and put systems in place to maintain it. The children are objectively worse off with their mother, who … | /r/MensRights | 15/01/20 05:19 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menFine, I think you're clearly biased. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menIf you're not going to respond to the content of my comments, I think this conversation is over. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menCiting the research of feminist researchers about feminism has obvious problems with researcher bias, but that's not the main issue with research on this topic. The main issue is that what people say they believe often doesn't pan out when you look at their actions. I'm sure Jess Phillips claims she doesn't hate men, but she still laughed at and opposed the discussion of men's issues in parliament in the UK. I'm sure the many feminist groups in the UK that are crying foul about making misandry a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menI think the point of major disagreement is that you put feminist "ire" in quotes, like it isn't actually ire. I and many others here maintain that plenty of feminists do level actual ire at men in varying ways, most of them not productive, constructive, or progressive. This is what I meant when I said you seem to exhibit a pro-feminist bias that blinds you to the bad behavior of feminists, because you seem to downplay it, rather than admit feminism has a problem with many in their ranks exhibiti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 03:21 AM |
| 4 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayLots of woke responses there. Are you using that phrase ironically? I personally can't stand the term. It's one of the most pretentious political terms I've seen in possibly my entire life. But no, I don't think it's going to go well for her. She's got no proof, and there's tons of evidence about Bernie's character that contradicts such a claim. Plus, the timing, having it leaked by her staff rather than saying it herself, and sitting on it until now all make it look like this was a calculated m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/20 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Feminism, dating, and the problem with consent.So, is this "toxic femininity" in that it's an expression of a woman who feels it's the guy's responsibility to read her mind and know her limits without asking, and the woman's privilege to not be burdened by having to communicate her desires? Or is it "toxic masculinity" exhibited by a woman, because she's reinforcing the traditional burdens men bear in dating? This is why these terms are fucking useless. IMO, the only proper terms here are "misandry" and "female entitlement." The misandry is … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:44 PM |
| 4 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldI agree, it was a refreshing take on the subject. I wish that was the norm for what I see on /r/menslib, but sadly, I generally tend to see a lot of prioritization of women's interests in their discussions of men's issues that affect women. Their philosophy seems to be, "advocate for men up to the point at which women might be negatively affected." This is a nice exception, but I wish it were the rule there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:39 PM |
| 5 | What if ERA got passed back in the day?I think it's impossible to predict such a large change to history. On the one hand, one could make the argument that men's rights groups would have availed themselves of the amendment and things would have gone very differently. However, you could also easily make the argument that society would have been resistant to enforcing the amendment in ways that helped men, and that judges would have set precedents that systematically discriminated against men. None of it is outside of the realm of plau… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:36 PM |
| 3 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldAh, thanks for the correction. Yeah, that does surprise me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:27 PM |
| 2 | CNN article on gender is entirely one sidedThis is why I'm a bit torn about the ERA. On principle, I support it, and I'd like to think it would create legal grounds for men's rights advocates to challenge a lot of the institutional biases and discrimination against men in court. However, I can't deny that laws are only as good as the people who enforce them, and when the culture of our country still actively ignores men's issues and sees women as the only victims of sexism in society, I don't trust our government bodies to enforce the ER… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:21 PM |
| 3 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldThanks for the link, but it's not particularly surprising, given that it came from a frequent user of this sub. What's infuriating is that this isn't the norm for dating advice for men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:09 PM |
| 1 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldThe first is that most feminists insist that the female must be the focus of any interaction between men and women. That's some good analysis. I agree that's most likely what's going on. I don't like the term, but "gynocentricism" certainly applies here. Specifically, feminists often uses emotionally manipulative strategies to achieve their aims (as a side note, I believe this is an extension of the fact the it is a predominantly female movement, and thus I think its proponents use tactics that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menCommunication is a two-way street. You can say "You're misunderstanding me," and I can retort, "then you misspoke." If you want charity from me, how's about I offer you the chance to rephrase your thoughts and clarify them? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 10:55 PM |
| 6 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayThis is what happens when you want a female president so badly that you don't care if she can actually win on her own merits. Feminists are just as sexist as everyone else, perhaps moreso. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 08:48 PM |
| 9 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldThat's an interesting analogy. Now that I think about it, you're right. Feminists come down harshly on any men's issues group on campus that isn't directly under their control (rendering it largely useless). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menI at no point called you a liar, and if you had contended I have an anti-feminist bias, I'd tell you you were right, and then try to explain why I don't think that's corrupting my points in this specific instance. I don't doubt that you've only met feminists you don't find objectionable, but you're the one who raised your anecdotal experience in an argument about feminists in general. If you're going to do that, others (a) have a right to raise their own experience as evidence, and (b) have a ri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:31 PM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayWarren has no shot at the nomination, but not because she's a woman—because she's too far to the Left and a bad politician in the sense that she doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut. She's had a number of gaffs that have made her look totally out of touch with reality. Bernie is too far Left to win as well, which is why Biden will ultimately take the nomination, but I'm still willing to give him my vote to send a signal to the Dems that some far-Left positions are favored, so long as identit… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 07:53 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayAs much as I wish the Dems would move towards a more egalitarian stance and support men's issues, the GOP doesn't support them either, and are a bunch of crazy whack jobs in far worse ways. No, thank you, I'll continue to vote for the party that doesn't habitually deny scientific facts and prioritize the fee-fees of hardcore Christians over the basic human rights of homosexuals and women. If they actually were a pro-men's rights party, I might consider voting for them, but they're not. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 07:49 AM |
| 9 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldSome seem truly triggered by it, but others seem like they just don't like seeing that become the focus of any conversation. The times I've seen feminists truly okay with generalized criticisms of women of the same variety they often have no problem leveling at men are so rare I can't actually recall having ever witnessed an example of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 07:44 AM |
| 2 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayYeah, I don't know what Klobuchar was talking about when she claimed women were edged out in the debates; the qualifications for the debates were based on polling success and had nothing to do with gender. That seems like her just playing the wahmen card for points. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 07:40 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayTrue, but we can only choose from what we've got, and the person who "should" win is the person who gets the most votes. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 07:34 AM |
| 7 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menI've met precisely zero people who live up to the "angry feminist" trope Then you either haven't met many feminists or (and I suspect this is closer to the mark) have a pro-feminist bias that blinds you to their bad behavior. I went to a college that was saturated with feminists, and they spanned the gamut, from truly egalitarian to openly misandrist. The "angry feminist" trope isn't just a trope; it's a spectrum of behavior that feminists exhibit in varying degrees, and contrary to what feminis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 07:31 AM |
| 8 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayLOL, I kind of wish Bernie's response had been, "I never said a woman couldn't win! ...I said a Native American couldn't." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 07:11 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayYeah, I saw that too. Problem is, it was 32 years ago, and so people will just write it off as not reflecting his views today (in fact, I've already seen people on /r/ElizabethWarren doing just that). The problem with this rumor and Elizabeth's confirmation of it is that it casts doubt on the consistency of his message, particularly when he's always been about eschewing identity politics for class politics. He's denied it, which makes me think it was a miscommunication between them, because I ca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 07:10 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayLOL, I wish Bernie had corrected her, "I never said a woman couldn't win. I said a Native American couldn't win!" In all seriousness though, this is all really perplexing, because it doesn't seem like either of them to do this shit. Makes me wonder if this isn't just some people in Warren's camp doing things without her approval. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 06:53 AM |
| 6 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldI guess I just don't really understand what's so objectionable to feminists about a comment like, "Just approach a woman casually and if she freaks out, back off and be glad you dodged a bullet. Some women are unfortunately paranoid about being approached by men, and you're best off staying as far away from them as possible." None of that is sexist, and you actually have to be pretty sexist to take offense to the bit about "some women." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 06:48 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayThis is all very odd. It doesn't seem like either of them to do any of these things, and yet we've got these reports. They're usually hugely supportive of each other. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 06:37 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayBernie might identify as a feminist publicly (although I've never heard him do so), but I doubt he privately flies the flag. He's come out time and again against identity politics, which is pretty much antithetical to the feminist mantra at this point. If he does identify as a feminist, I'm betting it's more akin to the Second Wave variety. Anyway, as one of the only candidates on the Left who isn't buying into this identity politics bullshit, he's got my vote (again). | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 06:35 AM |
| 2 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayWarren has apparently released a statement via Twitter. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 06:31 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayShe apparently has released a statement. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 06:29 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayI'm highly skeptical as well, which is why I want her to put an end to the rumor-mongering and either confirm/deny it. If she confirms it, I'll still be skeptical it wasn't a misunderstanding. Bernie being of the attitude that a woman can't win doesn't make any sense. The Left has never been thirstier for a female president, and Bernie knows it. Hell, he even pushed Warren to run in 2016. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 06:15 AM |
| 1 | CNN: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources sayI really hope Warren issues a direct statement as to the veracity of this allegation. Personally, I have a very hard time seeing Sanders saying something like this to Warren, but who knows? Obviously, he's denying he said it, and given that he's now attacking Warren, I can see why she'd want to either confirm the allegations or leave them up in the air out of spite, but the latter would be really foul play IMO. I hope the moderator in the next debate asks her directly about them and that she giv… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 05:49 AM |
| 11 | I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s worldWhy isn't there some male dating strategy sub that lies in some reasonable ground between TRP and this BP chivalry/m'lady bullshit? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 05:35 AM |
| 11 | Meet the extreme feminist writer of captain marvel 2I really hope this is true and that they make the uber-feminist film they intend. Maybe it tanking so hard is the message Disney needs to get. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 03:34 AM |
| 12 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menAgreed, but I don't see the two as being mutually exclusive. What I meant by saying "feminist activism is built on criticizing men" is that this has been one of their main tools for advocating for women, and that they've never divorced their pro-women talk from their anti-men talk. In fact, in the U.K. right now, they're terrified a new decision by the government might legally require them to (by making misandry a hate crime). So, yes, their goal is undoubtedly to accrue social, material, and po… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 03:19 AM |
| 4 | Strange articleIt makes the same mistake as the rest of the feminist movement makes in addressing men's issues: it only looks at half the problem. Listen to your boys, be kind and compassionate to them, but don't address the societal problems men face and don't criticize women for contributing to them (well, I don't actually believe in this last one, but I do wish feminists would stop criticizing men in the same fashion). This is the problem with the toxic masculinity approach to men's issues: it treats the es… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:34 AM |
| 11 | Why I Left the Men's Rights MovementThat's a pretty good example of the strawman argument against the MRM. Full of lies and mischaracterizations. I have a really hard time believing that guy spent any time at all on /r/mensrights. I've been there for years, and while not all content is good, and some is certainly bad, his characterization of it so far from accurate, I can't reconcile it with my own experience. Honestly, this post is dreck. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:26 AM |
| 27 | Some thoughts about how feminists treat boomer men differently than younger men and generational differences between menI don't think you will ever see a generation of men who meet feminist standards, because feminist activism for women is built on criticizing men as a gender. The standards will simply be raised, and the concrete manifestations of patriarchy expanded to incorporate whatever behavior the current generation of men are doing that feminists don't like. This has been going on for decades and it's not going to stop. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Is this an example of misandry (from 3:30)?I don't think so, because I think the spirit behind it is a criticism of Islam. Is it about Muslim men in particular? Yes, but Islam does have a rather glaring problem with how it treats women. They're not talking about men here, they're talking about Muslim men, Muslim being the operative word. This is anti-Islam talk, not anti-men talk. That being said, I do find the commentary the woman makes about how the tribal culture in Islam makes "children" out of men by denying them agency for their ba… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:18 AM |
| 2 | A study shows that when men treat women equally, they are treated as sexist.Removed: Rules 5 & 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/20 01:04 AM |
| 4 | How do you deal with being called right wing?There are 131k subscribers to /r/enlightenedcentrism, which is a sub devoted to mocking anyone who claims to be left-wing, but not far-left-wing. If that’s not an indication that the Left has become polarized, with its own body of radicals who can’t see reason nor compromise, I don’t know what is. I just got done with a fruitless debate with a person who took issue with me saying that the slogan “Nazi lives don’t matter” was intolerant, unproductive, and unfair. I have numerous arguments, and th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/20 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Any Tips for Writing....I think one of the things that tends to happen whenever an author of either gender writes characters of the other is that they focus on the external reality of the character, and never delve into their internal lives. Whether they're doing it unconsciously or consciously staying away from it, because they don't know how to write the internal life of an opposite-gendered character, it can make the character feel two-dimensional. My advice would be, even if you're only ever describing the characte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/20 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Sharia cleric says women should be kept in concentration camps! Should he be deported?Yeah, they're fine, although I was really thinking more about lefist papers that have a reliable history of good quality journalism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/20 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Sharia cleric says women should be kept in concentration camps! Should he be deported?The Atlantic is a magazine. I was talking about newspapers that put out news articles on a daily basis. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/20 05:30 PM |
| 4 | Sharia cleric says women should be kept in concentration camps! Should he be deported?Agreed, but can you suggest an alternative? All of the mainstream leftist newspapers that still retain decent journalistic quality have devoted their op-ed sections to some extent to "woke" content, which includes the occasional misandrist piece. The NY Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian...all have published numerous pieces disparaging men as a gender in some fashion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/20 03:11 PM |
| 1 | How does this sub feel about Trans people?I suspect that you're getting at the same idea that a lot of transgender people and their supporters have gotten at: these are questions with no easy answers. I very much agree. I can't say trans issues are a big part of my life, because I don't know that many trans people, but I have given a fair amount of thought to them and what it's like to be a trans person, precisely because the problems they face in society are so unique and (unfortunately) difficult to solve. If Bob has sex with Sue, who… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/20 06:29 AM |
| 1 | How does this sub feel about Trans people?Rather than harshly criticizing you Doing this would do nothing to change my views. My question to you is how did you arrive at this conclusion? By thinking about it for a good while and looking at it from both sides. Contrary to the impression you seem to have gotten, it has nothing to do with my own comfort or lack thereof with trans people. I'm actually pretty open-minded, and don't think I'd be that bent out of shape if I found out I'd been messing around with a trans woman who I thought was… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/20 11:07 PM |
| 12 | The blatant sexism I've experienced at school and seen on Disney's kids showsThis is why I don't give Disney any money if I can avoid it. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/20 05:14 AM |
| 4 | Is this legal?I've been boycotting Drake since before Drake. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/20 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?This is the last comment I'm going to make on this. Even according to the expanded commentary on Rule 6 in the moderation policy, I don't feel your comment meets criteria for inclusion, because the generalization you made is not supported by evidence. Contrary to your accusations, this decision was not made out of any consideration for how outsiders might perceive your comment or how it might make the sub look. My understanding of the rationale for Rule 6 is that this sub is intended to cater to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/20 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Educated black women are having problems finding successful men to marry. Are men actually intimidated by women who earn more than them, or do women just have a hard time dating down?Studies have shown women generally prefer male partners who make more than them, although I don't know if this trend is reflected in Black women as a subset. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Okay, gotcha. I guess I basically agree, although it's more accurate to say I'm apathetic about giving illegals access to Medicare, even if they're allowed to stay—I can see arguments for and against that proposition, and I'm not sure which way stand on it. I really just staunchly feel they should be deported. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 11:07 PM |
| 3 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?Discussing ways in which men are objectified does not require implying via generalized statements that all women view men as objects. No, you didn't say "all," but saying just "women view men..." implies you mean all women. Anyway, if you didn't mean all women, just put "some" in front of "women" and I'll reinstate your comment. Or, if you really feel your wording should be allowed, send /u/serpentineeyelash a PM with a link to your removed comment and he can overrule me if he agrees with you. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 11:03 PM |
| 2 | How does this sub feel about Trans people?Well since each person may be different, it can maybe be a legal requirement rather than some arbitrary, subjective requirement about what someone looks like. Agreed, and just to be clear: although I know I made that my basic "rule of thumb" for when they should be allowed to use their identified gender facility in my previous comment, I didn't mean to suggest I thought that should be the legal criteria for it. But there were barriers that were there that shouldn’t have been. As someone who work… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 01:53 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Okay, so, just to make sure I'm understanding you right: If we allow illegal aliens to stay (and presumably work towards citizenship), we should allow them access to Medicare, but... If we don't allow them to stay and deport them as soon as we find them, we shouldn't bother giving them Medicare. Correct? Or are you saying that even if we deport them automatically, we should first provide them basic medical services to get them healthy, and that should be covered by Medicare? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 01:44 PM |
| 6 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?Sure. Negative generalizations about an entire group are the essence of demonization. You made a negative generalization about how women view men, which counts as a way of demonizing women, IMO. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 01:38 PM |
| 2 | How does this sub feel about Trans people?Agreed, but I think setting arbitrary limits is not a good way to set policy. I don't have enough medical knowledge about the transition process to make suggestions, but I would think there are certain milestones that you could say, "a person needs to reach this point before they can legally use their identified gender's facility," no? I mean, I realize it's a very personalized process and everyone's going to have a different time of it, but are there enough standard progress points to make a ru… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 09:31 AM |
| 6 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?I'm enforcing the rules as I understand them, based on the sidebar, which was written by /u/serpentineeyelash, the creator of the sub. If you want to suggest a change, PM him or message the moderators. My enforcement of the rules does not reflect any endorsement of them on my part, I'm just doing my job as a moderator of this sub. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?Removed: Rule 6. Generalizations about either gender are not allowed here. Generalizations about feminists or MRAs are different. If you had said "feminists" instead of "women" that would have been fine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 07:50 AM |
| 5 | Women and the draft (feminist author)"War is men's fault, so women shouldn't have to partake in it!" <yawn> Men build all the roads, so women shouldn't be allowed to drive on them. Men build all the buildings, so women shouldn't be allowed to live in them. Men invent most things, so women shouldn't be allowed to use them. You really wanna go down this road, feminists? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 06:04 AM |
| 11 | Educated black women are having problems finding successful men to marry. Are men actually intimidated by women who earn more than them, or do women just have a hard time dating down?I'm white, and while I work with a lot of Black people, I wouldn't say I have any special insight into this. However, from what I've seen, it wouldn't surprise me at all if poor, uneducated Black men were intimidated by educated, well-to-do Black women, in part because I kind of think that's true everywhere, not just in Black society. Part of the problem here though is that Black men get the worse of the racism directed at African-Americans these days. By and large, it's Black men who are consta… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 05:39 AM |
| 10 | Subtle demonization of straight male sexualities on /r/MensLibI gave up participating on that sub so long ago it wasn't even on this account, but I still go there sometimes to see what's going on. In my time trying to participate though, and in looking at the conversation that goes on there, I have noticed a pattern I've seen on feminist subs too: any negativity, even that which is incorporated into statements of strong disagreement, isn't really tolerated. Feminist spaces seem to share this culture of preserving as positive and welcoming a place as possib… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 04:58 AM |
| 15 | Why do Menslibbers tell so many lies about MRAs?As an MRA, I agree with most of your post, but there's one thing I'd like to point out about this: As I said, MRAs don't need to tell lies to criticize menslib. We point out what we think is wrong with feminist theory and with associating with feminism. We don't need to up and pretend menslibbers are literally cuckolds who support men being in the kitchen and advocate for that in order to convince subscribers not to visit. I think it's more accurate to say most MRAs don't do this, but there is a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 04:43 AM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Totally agree. Feminist academia is the perpetual oppression engine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 04:22 AM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Well, I don't know that feminist leaders are really speaking to the unstable contingent. I think they have more interaction with feminist academics, which are an entirely different group. However, the academics do have some interaction with the unstable feminists, via colleges/universities. Feminist academia really is it's own little world though, and I think they inform feminist leadership much more than any other sector of the feminist movement. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 03:43 AM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I think there are a variety of factors that contribute to the phenomenon, two of which are echo chambers within the movement and the fact that extremists always step in when moderates lose interest. Apart from abortion and maybe #metoo, I don't think feminists have highlighted an issue that resonates with most women in quite some time now. That means the women becoming feminists these days are doing it for other reasons than actual need. I rarely meet a feminist who has dealt with any particular… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 03:24 AM |
| 4 | How does this sub feel about Trans people?I'm totally accepting of what I consider to be the "basic" rights/issues of trans people, but less-to-not-at-all of some of the more "secondary" issues. I'll try to go through them below, but I doubt I'll be able to include all of them. I consider gender dysphoria to be a real, neurological phenomenon, and have no problem with sex-reassignment surgery for those who suffer from it. I think there are some issues surrounding its diagnosis, but that's fairly normal for any psychiatric diagnosis. I c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/20 01:07 AM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Is the contradiction I'm pointing to not apparent to you? Are you saying you want illegals to have access to Medicare, so long as they haven't been discovered as illegal yet, but as soon as they are, kick them out? I'm genuinely confused. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 09:43 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Here's the comment I'm referencing, in which you said: Fair enough, we agree to disagree then. I admit that, when it comes to how illegal immigrants are handled, I have a fairly conservative mindset: I think they should be automatically deported. I'm actually in a similar boat. I'm not opposed to making it harder to enter the US legally. I do think that current legal channels should be respected, though. What I don't understand is that if you think illegals should be deported if they get in, wha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 09:32 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.No, I understand that, but what's confusing to me is that you then agreed generally with my statement that illegals should be automatically deported. I don't understand how those two views are compatible. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 09:07 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Wow. I'm surprised to hear that, given you just said you think illegals should be given access to Medicare. Care to explain? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 08:51 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Fair enough, we agree to disagree then. I admit that, when it comes to how illegal immigrants are handled, I have a fairly conservative mindset: I think they should be automatically deported. I am, however, entirely on-board with making it easier to enter the U.S. legally. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 08:43 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I'm pretty sure they mean it under the context of Medicare For All, as I don't think they're okay covering illegals, while leaving actual citizens without coverage. However, I'm not okay with extending such benefits to illegal immigrants. Legal ones, absolutely, but not illegal ones. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 08:38 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 08:23 PM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I'm not sure what "right-wing trap" you feel I've fallen into. I know Democrats don't want illegal immigration. I do, however, feel they're sometimes too soft on illegal immigrants. In the context of ICE, I understand why some cities are making themselves sanctuary cities, but the basic notion of just not cooperating with the federal government's efforts to police illegal immigration? Nah, I'm not down with that. But getting back to the point—how does not wanting Medicare to be available to ille… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 08:15 PM |
| 2 | An interesting article: "A nerd's attempt to engage feminists—made deep beneath an obscure blog post—spurred the debaters to recognize their mutual humanity"You mean the governments identifying as feminist is just lip-service? Uh...no, I have to strongly disagree with you there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:58 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I look at it from a policy and rhetoric perspective. Think back to what policies Democrats were pushing in 2016 and look at the ones they’re pushing now. Then look at the amount of “woke” language in their rhetoric and compare that to now. All more extreme in my book. Thing is, I’m not against all of those extreme policies. I’m for Medicare For All, for example, but not for illegal immigrants as well (which some Democrats now want). The main thing is that they’re pushing the pay gap lies more an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:57 PM |
| 3 | An interesting article: "A nerd's attempt to engage feminists—made deep beneath an obscure blog post—spurred the debaters to recognize their mutual humanity"Well, considering there’s now a trend for entire governments to identify as feminist, which I consider a huge problem, I’m not keen on America following that lead. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:44 PM |
| 2 | What are some good YouTube channels consistent with the LWMA cause?Not entirely devoted to men's issues, and I assume (but don't know for certain) that they're left-wing, but I came across Aba & Preach recently. I haven't watched a ton of their videos yet, but what I've seen so far I've liked. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:40 PM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I too voted for Hillary in 2016, even though I couldn't stand her. She was simply the obvious lesser evil. Thing is, that resulted in an experience I'd never had before (and never want to again) on the night Trump won: I found myself simultaneously feeling horrified that he was going to be our next president...and positively giddy that Hillary had lost—and to him of all people! I've since seen the Democrats do the exact opposite of what they should have done since that election and move even fur… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:30 PM |
| 5 | An interesting article: "A nerd's attempt to engage feminists—made deep beneath an obscure blog post—spurred the debaters to recognize their mutual humanity"I think this is part of how the state of US politics defines the world's conversation about the same issues. Since like it or not, it's the Americans that make this conversation the way it is, which then spreads in circles around the world through grants, exchange programs, books, etc etc. Eh...I don't entirely agree. Feminism certainly has the majority of it's roots in America, but also some in England, and so I don't think it's entirely fair to say that the European manifestations of feminism … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:22 PM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Hrm. Interesting. I've had similar experiences, but I've also met feminists who don't sink to those levels. I suppose I am probably giving feminists the benefit of the doubt when I assume that most are not like that, as I've probably actually encountered more that are than aren't. I think the rationale has something to do with the idea that assume the reasonable feminists are less outspoken and less visible to me. You've been kind enough to provide me with a lot of personal information, so I'll … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:12 PM |
| 4 | An interesting article: "A nerd's attempt to engage feminists—made deep beneath an obscure blog post—spurred the debaters to recognize their mutual humanity"Touching article, and it covers some good points and information, but the overall kowtowing to feminism was a bit hard to take. The fact of the matter is that feminism is guilty at this point of oppressing men, white men, and white male nerds in particular. They always say it's just patriarchy, because there are ways in which traditional gender norms are still harming men, but what feminists never acknowledge is that they selectively reinforce these norms where it suits them, and treat cooperati… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 07:02 PM |
| 4 | How do you usually respond to the argument that men's advocates aren't actually fighting for men's right but that it's feminists that are fighting for men's rights?I point them to organizations like the NCFM and J4MB and ask them to cite me feminist organizations that are fighting for policy changes to benefit men. Usually, all feminists have to support the idea that feminists fight for men are random articles here and there, wherein a feminist acknowledges men have issues. When you ask them to point to feminists actually striving to create change for men on a level that matters, they can't come up with anything. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 06:31 PM |
| 2 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.Thank you for indulging me. I too am in social services, and I know what you mean about male victims being just as numerous as female victims, but having literally no support systems to go to. I suppose the reason I asked was because you said you were an ex-feminist who learned that most feminists a conscious misandrists. In my experience, most are unconsciously so, but perhaps I'm being too charitable? What makes you say otherwise? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 06:28 PM |
| 13 | In Canada, men are not afforded equal pay rights under Justin Trudeau's feminist inspired policy.Even moderate feminists like Trudeau have a blind spot for men. They assume men have all the advantages they need in every arena, and so never bother to check and see if they're not actually increasing a gap in which men are disadvantaged. I think most of the time, it's unintentional, but sometimes I think they just don't care. I'm inclined to give Trudeau the benefit of the doubt, because he's male, but I also wouldn't put it past him to sell out his own gender for his own political success. He… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 06:23 PM |
| 3 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.The difference is that pride parades hurt no one. Diversity efforts are often discriminatory and exclusionary, and while this is done in the name of "the greater good," a lot of people feel it is still wrong, and the "positive" discrimination is still harmful. However you choose to view them, they are undeniably attempts to manipulate the success rates of people based on demographic variables. Pride parades are not. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 06:17 PM |
| 1 | A university ‘welcomed’ everyone but men in STEM events. A professor filed a Title IX complaint.I used to be a dyed in the wool feminist. I was disabused of my beliefs by the majority of hateful, awful people that identified with the label. If you don't mind, I'm curious as to the details of that story.... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Former Monty Python star Terry Gilliam slams #MeToo as a witch hunt, complains he's 'tired of white men being blamed for everything' and calls Harvey Weinstein's victims 'adults who made choices'Well, I disagree that’s fair. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/20 08:57 AM |
| 12 | My Concern About Feminism. Is it valid?Thank you. While there's no centralized feminist leadership, I do think the heads of organizations like NOW and FMF, along with people like Katherine Spillar (Exec. Editor of Ms. Magazine) understand the power dynamics I mentioned and don't really care about aiming for equality, so much as a "women first" kind of female supremacy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 02:19 AM |
| 3 | Ever Wondered What It's Like to be triggered by Dinosaur Bones?Probably because male dinosaurs were throwing themselves into tar pits so that female dinosaurs and their young could use their bodies to cross to safety. :-P | /r/MensRights | 07/01/20 01:54 AM |
| 15 | My Concern About Feminism. Is it valid?I agree that this is a trend stemming from feminist efforts and rhetoric, but I don't think they're necessarily doing it consciously. I think it's a consequence of an unconscious misandrist bias among feminists. Also, I'd like to point out that feminists are only really pushing for men to be stripped of power in areas wherein they'd like to see women gain more power. When it comes to areas in which men have power that women don't want, they're fine leaving it in place. Examples include not pushi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/20 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Canadian committee suggestion to get women engaged in politics is to offer cash incentives.Ha! You're very welcome. Keep up the good work! | /r/MensRights | 07/01/20 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Britain's most prolific rapist jailed: 159 offences all against men....What is your point as it relates to how we handle the publicity of rape cases? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Britain's most prolific rapist jailed: 159 offences all against men.Okay, but these agencies are concerned with policing domestic terrorists, spies, and other threats to national security; they're not concerned with rape cases. So how are they relevant? More to the point, how is extending their secret police powers to the police a good idea? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Britain's most prolific rapist jailed: 159 offences all against men.I don't think you've really addressed the argument I just gave you, tbh. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Britain's most prolific rapist jailed: 159 offences all against men.So, I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I totally understand the arguments for it and agree with them for the most part. However, a friend of mine, who used to be a court reporter, pointed out that knowing who is charged with what is necessary for the press to inform the public about judicial proceedings in specific cases, which essentially means it's a key element to transparency in the criminal justice system. As such, I'm not sure what to do about the issue. I still think it's … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Former Monty Python star Terry Gilliam slams #MeToo as a witch hunt, complains he's 'tired of white men being blamed for everything' and calls Harvey Weinstein's victims 'adults who made choices'Oh, please. Weinstein was one of the most prolific producers in Hollywood with a huge amount of influence in the industry. Getting on his bad side didn't just mean not getting parts in his films, it held the very real threat of being blacklisted. Furthermore, demanding sexual favors for professional work is absolutely an attempt at coercion, any fool can see that. Is this your attitude about work in general? So, if your boss tells you you need to have sex with them or they're going to fire you, … | /r/MensRights | 06/01/20 07:55 PM |
| 9 | Canadian committee suggestion to get women engaged in politics is to offer cash incentives.The committee suggests political parties should be working harder to get more women to run by eliminating sexism and biases that might be built into their recruitment efforts. Their solution: create sexist policies that encourage biases in favor of women. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/20 07:42 PM |
| 31 | Britain's most prolific rapist jailed: 159 offences all against men.Agreed, although I think there's something to be said for acknowledging that a certain amount of schadenfreude if it does happen is understandable. It's a good human trait, being able to feel one way about something and yet rise above that emotion cognitively and say what happened isn't right. People can't be blamed for how they feel, only for they respond to their feelings. That being said, that was one of my first thoughts when reading the article: they can't house this guy in a normal prison;… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/20 06:38 PM |
| 4 | The strange paternalist puritanism of "woke" age gap policingI think you should probably take into account the phenomenon of double-think (the ability for people to hold two contradictory beliefs at once). The notion that the woman is just as capable of making her own choices as the man and that she is somehow being victimized, despite making her own choice as an adult are indeed contradictory, but the human mind has ways around such trivial inconveniences (common defense mechanisms are intellectualization and rationalization). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 04:33 AM |
| 4 | Former Monty Python star Terry Gilliam slams #MeToo as a witch hunt, complains he's 'tired of white men being blamed for everything' and calls Harvey Weinstein's victims 'adults who made choices'I agree with him, up until his comments about Weinstein's victims. That guy legitimately assaulted people and used his power within the industry as leverage to coerce sex from people who would not otherwise consent. That ain't right. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/20 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.considering that most such pseudo-leftists are female or female-adjacent, perhaps it would be locally beneficial to draft more of them in combat roles. internationally beneficial, considering their complete incompetence in every domain. I'm not exactly sure whether or not you're referring to women in general or just female "pseudo-leftists," but categorizing an entire group of people—no matter how you define them—as "complete[ly] incompetent in every domain" and implying they're only good as can… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/20 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.How is this a valid opinion on a leftist sub? if you're a leftist you should be anti-war, the US is an imperialist bully and mandatory service is guaranteeing the perpetuation of that imperialism. You're concerned with the equality of the draft, are you insane? The only concern you should have is why the US thinks it's ok to antagonise nations looking for retaliation so they can feel justified in occupying them. Telling people what they should and shouldn't think does nothing to change their min… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/20 08:47 PM |
| 0 | The draftNot if you’re not charged. Retard. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/20 08:11 AM |
| 1 | What advice should we give to men as they navigate the dating world?Because it's one thing to say that hypergamy is a problem among women, that too many women are hypergamous, or that men should be wary of hypergamous women, but quite another to say that "women are hypergamous and therefore a problem for men in dating, and so men should develop dark triad traits and forget about love and empathy and all that." That's ridiculous, misogynistic, and does not at all follow from the evidence you cited. Anyway, you want to bring some of this stuff up in a post or some… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/20 01:24 AM |
| 1 | What advice should we give to men as they navigate the dating world?I'm already familiar with the stuff you're citing. On their own, they make for interesting discussion material, but even taken together, they do not justify the view of women that you're advocating. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/20 12:39 AM |
| 1 | What advice should we give to men as they navigate the dating world?There is no supporting evidence for statements like this: Your personality and who you are? Yeah those things don't matter sorry mate. Taken in context with the rest of your statements, your comment exhibits an overall tone that makes clear you don't just mean some women, you mean virtually all women are hypergamous and unconcerned with anything but a man's money in dating. That demonizes women and is a view that is unsupported by evidence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/20 12:11 AM |
| 1 | What advice should we give to men as they navigate the dating world?Removed: Rule 6. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 11:52 PM |
| 14 | Feminist Guardian columnist Moira Donegan reflects on the Temperance Movement, and entertains the idea of denying men (but not women) the right to drink, claiming it's useful as a "provocation, or a thought experiment."Sort of, but not quite? She actually makes the distinction herself in the article; rather than arguing for drinking prohibitions based on "moral temperance and virtue," she's making the argument that we should do it only for men, because only men become violent when drunk (claims I'm pretty sure she's just plain wrong about). So, she's not exactly like those feminists from a bygone time; she's actually worse than them. They argued for their own moral views to be enforced equally; Donegan is argu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.I did, but you seem intent on having it now, so I'm going along with it. Now, since you want to do this, please, provide evidence for your assertions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 08:20 PM |
| 18 | Feminist Guardian columnist Moira Donegan reflects on the Temperance Movement, and entertains the idea of denying men (but not women) the right to drink, claiming it's useful as a "provocation, or a thought experiment."On another note, I thought we progressives were in favor of harm reduction and decriminalizing drugs, so it's surprising to see this apologetics for alcohol prohibition. Then again, this author seems to be part of the most radically authoritarian branch of feminism. I think the misandry comes in when you look at how feminists support reducing sentences for drug offenses, particularly for women, and yet also smirk at articles like these and may even support policies like these in extreme cases. S… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 08:17 PM |
| 1 | The draftDid you read what I said? A person is only a felon if they're charged with a felony by the State, which the federal government has rarely ever done. Still waiting on that link I keep asking for.... | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 08:09 PM |
| 4 | What's the whole situation behind the Violence Against Women Act? Also, is it gender-neutral in nature?I know, but as I explained, your comment was reported for "violating" Rule 3 (Criticizing feminism is allowed). I saw no reason to remove it, because there's no rule saying arguments against criticisms of feminism aren't allowed, but I've seen plenty of menslibbers here try to discourage people from criticizing feminism, and so I felt it appropriate that I make it clear that such criticism is allowed here. I responded in an official capacity, because the comment was reported, and while I approve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.I merely referenced the mandatory military service as something to consider copying. You're conflating that with the rest of Israeli politics, and moreover casting those politics in the light you see them in. Seems to me that the burden is on you to prove that there's a causal connection between a mandatory military service policy and the politics of which you're critical. You're asserting connections are there, but haven't actually provided any evidence. I'm calling those assertions assumptions… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 07:53 PM |
| 3 | What's the whole situation behind the Violence Against Women Act? Also, is it gender-neutral in nature?What is unclear? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 07:47 PM |
| 5 | What's the whole situation behind the Violence Against Women Act? Also, is it gender-neutral in nature?Criticism of feminism is allowed here (see the sidebar). You can choose to forego it, but plenty of other users here see it as not only productive, but necessary to men's rights advocacy. I'm responding to this officially, because your comment was reported for "violating" Rule 3. I'm leaving your comment up, because I'm not sure what the grounds for removal of comments with regards to this rule are, but I do feel it necessary to clarify that this sub is a place where criticism of feminism is all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 07:33 PM |
| 1 | What's the whole situation behind the Violence Against Women Act? Also, is it gender-neutral in nature?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.I disagree, but that's really a discussion for another thread. And please, other people's actual dedication to abstract concepts like "leftism" and "justice" are not defined by the extent to which they match your preconceptions of what they should look like. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 07:27 PM |
| 1 | The draftThere's nothing about voting My point exactly. but any other thing regarding the gov't is taken from you No, you're still eligible for Medicaid and Medicare if you qualify for them, as well as a host of other government benefits. Just not federal financial aid and federal employment. You can also be charged with a felony, sent to prison, and be forced to pay a fine, but the government has rarely pursued that option. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 07:08 PM |
| 1 | The draftI'll concede it's fair to point out that, with federal laws as they currently stand, the government can make you a felon by actually charging you for failure to register with the Selective Service, but it's also important to note that they've only done this a handful of times. Also, whether or not your voting rights are removed varies greatly, depending on which state you're in. Again, I ask for a source that clearly details how this happens, because if so, it's a huge issue, and I can't believe… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 07:05 PM |
| 4 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.Arguments about whether or not we should have a draft at all are related, but separate IMO. My primary concern is equality. Presently, we have a draft, and that means it should apply to both men and women. These are not either/or courses in my mind; meaning, people who oppose the draft should not oppose making it a requirement for women too, so long as we have it. Personally, I can see arguments for keeping the Selective Service around, but I actually would prefer a system of mandatory service f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 06:57 PM |
| 2 | The draftPlease, quote me the part in that article where it says you can't vote if you don't register. AFAIK, this is only an issue for male immigrants, who can't become citizens (and thus can't vote) if they fail to register. If you're already a citizen though, your right to vote isn't taken away if you fail to register. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 06:51 PM |
| 36 | Feminist Guardian columnist Moira Donegan reflects on the Temperance Movement, and entertains the idea of denying men (but not women) the right to drink, claiming it's useful as a "provocation, or a thought experiment."A key point she makes in support of her sexist proposal is this: But the fact remains that, although alcoholism and binge drinking are on the rise among women, they are still not nearly as prevalent among women as they are among men – nor are they linked to an attendant increase in violence by women. In short, it is by and large men, not women, who get violent when they are drunk. I'm pretty sure that women are, in fact, more likely to get violent when they're drunk, but I don't have research im… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 06:46 PM |
| 4 | Recent events have brought up the possibility of the draft being reinstated in the U.S. While I think this is clearly alarmist, it's worth taking the time to reflect on the consequences failing to register for the draft is for men. Here's a very good article from last year on the topic.The article says that most men apply via secondary means, so I would assume it's not common knowledge. As usual, the men most affected by these consequences are poor and don't go through the typical avenues that cause them to get registered the way most men do. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 05:40 PM |
| 2 | The draftI've heard this plenty of times, but I can't actually find that listed as a penalty for failing to register on the Selective Service's website: https://www.usa.gov/selective-service Can you link me to a source showing you can't vote if you don't register? | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Woman ordered to pay ex $200K after trashing his reputation onlineIt's just a shame that it seems really troublesome and expensive to prove it. Which is why we need serious punishments to be levied against those who perpetrate it. Too often, there are no consequences for false accusers and slanderers. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 04:53 PM |
| 7 | Woman ordered to pay ex $200K after trashing his reputation onlineOkay, I should mention that I was talking about the frequency of slut-shaming in the context of Western cultures, not the world. I'll certainly agree that slut-shaming is far more pandemic and impactful in non-Western cultures; that's absolutely true. So, if that's what you're talking about, then I agree. However, within Western cultures alone, I have to disagree with you: slut-shaming is not tolerated publicly among adults, and it not used to destroy people's careers. Attempts to ruin people vi… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 04:37 PM |
| 5 | I'm surprised no one brought this up, but what are your opinions on the current situation of Iran, and the potential draft?Because for the draft to be reinstituted, congress has to pass a law making it so, and that would require broad political support. Trump himself might be stupid and callous enough to call for it, but the GOP isn't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/20 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.For example, after Donald Trump floated the idea of temporarily banning Muslims from the United States, Paul Ryan, who was the Speaker of the House at the time, made a huge point to condemn this. So, one republican objected, while the rest stayed silent? This is what I mean—I'm sure you can point to isolated incidents, but if you think that's representative of a trend in the party, I think you're mistaken. And, the sheer number of vile tweets Trump has made where not a single republican has comp… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 04:09 PM |
| 24 | Woman ordered to pay ex $200K after trashing his reputation onlineI'm not sure I see how slut-shaming is as pandemic or impactful as this kind of defamation. Slut-shaming IME usually happens in school settings, and while I don't deny it can be psychologically and socially harmful in those settings, it's not the same as calling someone's employers and trying to get them fired by spreading lies about them. It's also not the same as spreading these lies online and trying to get the person cut off from their family, for example. Can you give me examples of slut-sh… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 03:32 PM |
| 14 | Why are men more successful? Because failure for a man is a whole lot worse than failure for a woman.I think a mix of options 1 & 2 are what’s most appropriate. In some ways, women are afforded safety nets that shouldn’t be afforded to them, but in others, men deserve the same safety nets women get. And yet, in still other ways, there are glass ceilings women have to fight to achieve the same degree of success men do. By the same token, there are glass floors that protect them from what many men suffer. Both of these limits need to be shattered for gender egalitarianism to become a norm. I thin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/12/19 08:31 PM |
| 2 | This app helps POC find therapists from their same cultural background. I'm not one for identity politics, but since the APA is entertaining the stereotype of "toxic masculinity", do you think something similar for men would be a good idea? I often hear incels complain about this in particular.Good, I totally agree. Some years back, my intellectual focus was actually on the atheism-religion debate, and these days I find feminism exhibits many of the same anti-scientific flaws that religion does. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/19 05:04 PM |
| 3 | This app helps POC find therapists from their same cultural background. I'm not one for identity politics, but since the APA is entertaining the stereotype of "toxic masculinity", do you think something similar for men would be a good idea? I often hear incels complain about this in particular.I think they’re intimately related. Feminists have been saying these things for far longer than the APA has, and I think it rather naïve to think there’s no causal connection there. It would not be the first time feminist ideology has poisoned the social sciences either. EDIT: Nevermind, I misread your comment. I think we're in agreement, no? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/19 04:29 PM |
| 3 | This app helps POC find therapists from their same cultural background. I'm not one for identity politics, but since the APA is entertaining the stereotype of "toxic masculinity", do you think something similar for men would be a good idea? I often hear incels complain about this in particular.I was just curious thinking how someone who grew up in a "masculine" household could get around the APA guidelines by requesting someone who understands where they're coming from. Is that allowed? Yes. Furthermore, any therapist who knows what they're doing isn't going to insist on using language like "toxic masculinity" or even "traditional masculinity," if they get the sense it might offend the patient. There are always ways of addressing a patient's problems without bringing in political lang… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/19 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.As a liberal, I have serious problems with the sexist direction the Democrats (and the Left in general) are going in. As for pushback from certain members, the video I just posted is an example, although I agree not a great one, because he only did it when asked, not proactively of his own accord. However, I haven't actually seen any Republican politicians calling Obama out for those comments either. If you have, please link me. Also, your example of Graham pushing back on Trump for insulting a … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/19 02:08 AM |
| 9 | Harry Potter and the Transgender Revolution (Op-Ed Piece by Cathy Young)Posting this because the trans debate is just as pertinent to men as it is women, and I’m a huge Cathy Young fanboy. The article is long, but that’s because Young goes really in-depth in her analysis of the current state of the transgender conversation, and I think she makes a bunch of really good points: such as how—despite disagreeing with their conclusions—TERFs raise some valid concerns about trans issues, how divorcing gender from sex completely and gender-fluidity actually reinforce gender… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/19 08:36 PM |
| 3 | This app helps POC find therapists from their same cultural background. I'm not one for identity politics, but since the APA is entertaining the stereotype of "toxic masculinity", do you think something similar for men would be a good idea? I often hear incels complain about this in particular.There was some Australian charity that came under fire for adopting a policy of only hiring female therapists, because they cited research showing that a majority of DV victims (men included) felt more comfortable talking to women. Sensitivity towards patients’ preferences is not an excuse for racist or sexist hiring practices, at least not to such a degree that you exclusively hire people from only one demographic background. That organization was ensuring it couldn’t help anyone who preferred … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/19 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.The fact that you equate socialists with communists and call people “pinkos” just demonstrates how ridiculously out of the loop you are in terms of modern politics. The Right has a literal psychopath in the Oval Office right now, and you’re worried about some socialist candidates turning the country into China? LOL. If you voted for Trump, you have no business telling anyone else they’re voting for an extremist. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 09:06 AM |
| 13 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.He did the smartest thing he possibly could have in that situation, and his winning against Hillary was never a possibility, because the DNC had decided that long before the primaries had even got off the ground. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 09:02 AM |
| 4 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.I was dismayed at that also. No, it’s not what the Dems have become or the Left—no more than the notion that the GOP or the Right has become a bunch of hyper-religious zealots. These are just the extremists, and it’s important to keep that in mind. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 08:57 AM |
| 5 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.There are no communists running for U.S. office. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 08:54 AM |
| 9 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.Ignorant comment by him, I agree. Pandering, and stupid. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 08:53 AM |
| 5 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.Good news, idiot: he’s not! Fun fact: there are no communists running for U.S. office this year! Woo fuckin’ hoo! | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 08:48 AM |
| 1 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.Yeah, I’m one of them, but he’s not the only candidate who’s likely to provide it. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 03:08 AM |
| 7 | Bernie's answer is refreshingYeah, I write a lot of this stuff off for politicians in general, because it's just appealing to the populous, but what's weird is that he's doing it now, when his political career is over. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/19 02:41 AM |
| 7 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.He's said a bit of misandric stuff in the past Like what (genuinely curious)? | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 02:39 AM |
| 5 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.Let's be honest: he never had the ballot. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 02:38 AM |
| 63 | Bernie Sanders disagrees with Obama that women make better leaders.My mother whined when Hillary lost that "the country just isn't ready for a female president yet." I told her, "if anything, Mom, more people voted for Hillary, because of her gender, than against her for it." She was not amused, but had nothing to say. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/19 12:28 AM |
| 10 | This app helps POC find therapists from their same cultural background. I'm not one for identity politics, but since the APA is entertaining the stereotype of "toxic masculinity", do you think something similar for men would be a good idea? I often hear incels complain about this in particular.As a therapist, I can vouch for the fact that there's a sound rationale for entertaining preferences on demographic variables for things like therapists, doctors, other treating healthcare professionals, etc, which should obviously not be entertained in every profession. Opening up to a medical professional is very important for treatment, and some people aren't comfortable opening up fully to everyone regardless of background. There are a variety of reasons for this, including trauma history an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 11:53 PM |
| 7 | Paternity FraudI think women who commit paternity fraud should be liable for civil action. In cases wherein only financial harm was done, make them pay back the money with interest. In cases where emotional damage is done (i.e. duping a guy into raising your child, because he thinks its his own) emotional damages should be paid on top of any financial investments he made for the child. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 11:44 PM |
| 4 | The problem isn't that women do too much "unpaid labor". The problem is that men do too much "paid labor".These are two different sides of the same issue. What I think often gets left out of the discussion is the fact that men also traditionally perform work at home that is unpaid. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 11:40 PM |
| 25 | Bernie's answer is refreshingAwesome! I'm especially glad he came out and specifically said he disagreed with Obama about this, rather than just dodging the conflict. Obama was a great president in many respects, but his comments about women and men in power are sexist. Sad that you could hear a lot of people cheering when the moderator quoted him. If this is reflective of the beliefs of women today, I'd say we've really jumped the shark in the gender equality debate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 11:32 PM |
| 2 | /r/antifastonetoss doesn't know about LeftWingMaleAdvocatesThis comment was reported for advocating violence, but I'm approving it, because it's not actually advocating violence. Still, people, try not to toe the line on this rule by saying people can "go die" somehow, even as a joke. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 11:25 PM |
| 1 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?No idea how the trans issue fits into this since the idea of gender seems to be a very fluid concept these days. I wouldn't say everyone or even most people subscribe to the whole "gender is fluid" view. I certainly don't. The trans issue is that, if you have a gender-exclusive club, do admit trans people who were born the gender you exclude, but have since transitioned to the gender you accept? Do you require them to have transitioned or is simple identification enough? How do your members feel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 04:03 PM |
| 10 | /r/antifastonetoss doesn't know about LeftWingMaleAdvocatesRight. So, let's try this. I hate Toxic Blackness. Toxic Blackness harms Black people. It's why Black people create a disproportionate amount of violent crime, it's just part of their culture, and it needs to go. Not all Black people, of course, and not all Black culture, just the toxic parts—like associating doing well in school and having good jobs with being White. Black people need to stop being toxic, and we need to help them. They're part of the problem. They're suffering from a sickness o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 01:32 PM |
| 14 | /r/antifastonetoss doesn't know about LeftWingMaleAdvocatesJesus Christ, the comments.... Even the "better" ones are awful. Men aren't allowed to feel things, there is a code of masculinity that is enforced cruelly, and this is part of what causes toxic masculinity. Men are part of the problem and if you want the problem fixed you have to fix men, by fostering positive, healthy ways for them to deal with life and society and their own mental health in a way that benefits other men and women. This is what I've been saying about how feminists and menslibb… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 12:28 AM |
| 3 | A rant against Honey Badger Radio's interview of DerrickI read about half of you rant, but there's only so much retard I can absorb, before I get a literal headache. Suffice it to say, this is why I never paid much attention to the Honey Badgers, and why I'm glad this sub exists. As much as I will defend the overall reasonable-ness of the discourse on /r/mensrights, I can't deny that there is a small, but loud contingent of tradcons there (although thankfully, I've never seen anything expressed there that approaches the level of idiocy described in y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/19 12:19 AM |
| 5 | This article talks about how men are receiving AA for college admissions. Thoughts?While I don’t support AA on principle, AA that automatically goes to the lesser-represented group is better than fixed AA, and it sounds like colleges switched to AA for men at the “appropriate” time. Still, the problems lie in the pipeline, and admitting under-qualified men at/near the end of it isn’t going to fix them. We need to study and address the real reasons boys are doing worse in schools than girls. That is the only way to equalize educational achievement across gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Another example of feminists blaming masculinity for a global problem that is more about Conservatives vs. Liberals than anything truly having to do with gender.Please see my comment here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Another example of feminists blaming masculinity for a global problem that is more about Conservatives vs. Liberals than anything truly having to do with gender.It's not actually that women are the majority of poor people, it's that women are more often the primary caretakers of children, and as such are less economically and geographically mobile than men. Studies have shown that when societal infrastructures break down, it's women and children that are most affected. That's the rationale behind the argument that global warming will most severely affect women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:39 PM |
| 9 | Another example of feminists blaming masculinity for a global problem that is more about Conservatives vs. Liberals than anything truly having to do with gender.It's written by a very well-respected feminist academic and she is by no means the only such feminist who writes shit like this. When tons of feminist academics share these views, defending an idealized, "ivory tower" version of feminism that isn't actually exemplified by feminist thought leaders is meaningless. Feminism is defined collectively by feminists, and some feminists views on it carry more weight than others. Your views mean relatively little next to a respected feminist academic like … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:35 PM |
| 5 | Another example of feminists blaming masculinity for a global problem that is more about Conservatives vs. Liberals than anything truly having to do with gender.Are you kidding me? They're not going to stop it then. They're not going to stop it if they get women into 90% of top positions in government and seats on corporate boards. They'd just find new ways to blame men for everything. This is so deeply written into feminist culture, has been going on for so long, it's not about achieving a goal anymore and hasn't been for a very long time, maybe ever—it's simply an expression of their misandry. That misandry isn't going to just vanish when women contro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:31 PM |
| 1 | In regards to male violence, what do you think of this argument? Is is valid or not?Not surprising. Without a major gang issue in the area, this is the next most likely source of violence that comes to mind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Another example of feminists blaming masculinity for a global problem that is more about Conservatives vs. Liberals than anything truly having to do with gender.One of these factors mentioned is social pressure to live high-carbon lifestyles (like buying a fancy car to show your status). If you can find it again, I'd like to take a look at that paper. I have a hard time believing that the specific subset of car choice that encompasses "manly, gas-guzzling cars" measures up to things like the burning of fossil fuels for power and deforestation. I can sort of see a link between meat consumption and global warming, as the methane produced by livestock has … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Kursat Pekgoz strikes again. Shots fired at total Title IX Bullshit...And you can hold the company accountable. How so? I haven't really heard of anyone suing their employers for unfair findings in sexual harassment investigations. You may be technically right that this can be done, but if so, why aren't more people doing it? With your system, unfair minded bosses hire firms that treat men unfairly, fair-minded bosses hire firms that that treat men fairly, and if anything goes wrong "we were deceived by them, we thought they were legitimate" You could just sue the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 07:35 AM |
| 2 | An action plan for LWMAsAs most of the people here are really just advocates, rather than activists, I think the pertinent question for us is which men's rights activism/advocacy groups we should support financially. As such, I'm going to put forward the National Coalition for Men. I donate to them monthly. These guys are the oldest MR group in the U.S., and they have a storied history of accomplishments under their belt. A short list is available here. Activities range from setting up panels to discuss men's issues in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 05:57 AM |
| 2 | Kursat Pekgoz strikes again. Shots fired at total Title IX Bullshit...<shrug> I think a marketplace of such firms would dilute feminist ability to monopolize said market. But do you have an alternative suggestion? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 02:11 AM |
| 1 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?Well, to be clear, I wasn't making the argument that male and female cultures are either entirely homogenous or distinct. I understand there's a lot of overlap, as I said, not to mention variability between them. However, I also think there are discernible "peaks" that cluster based on gender to some extent. In a society that simply allowed gender-exclusive clubs, but didn't force all clubs to be so, you'd still have plenty of mixed spaces to go to, including ones that were predominantly female … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:37 AM |
| 2 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?All very solid points and true about a subset of the women who go to these spaces, I'm sure, but I'm skeptical that all or even 75% of them are like that. Furthermore, you didn't mention whether or not you thought the men who frequent male-only spaces (the few that are left) have the analogous misogynist motivations. Personally, I suspect that a significant chunk of these populations are made up of men and women who simply want a break from the opposite-gender's culture, and the opportunity to b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Kursat Pekgoz strikes again. Shots fired at total Title IX Bullshit...Yeah, but when there's a competitive market of such firms, feminist-skewed ones will have competition, and I trust an open market to weed out ideologues far more than I trust college administrators and CEOs. Firms such as these would be trying to sell their services based on either their reputations for being thorough, fair, and unbiased or for generating outcomes that keep their client companies out of hot water. Yes, there's always some room for feminist firms to thrive, but that's very differ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.Yes, but the administrators select the staff and ultimately determine the institution's bias. All I'm saying is that I think their decisions with regard to all that are purely based on what they think is best for the school, not an inherent preference for women over men or vice versa. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.I don't really think college administrators themselves have a gender bias. They're just doing whatever they think is most favored by public opinion, because they only real thing they care about is their funding and their reputations. It's society that has the gender bias. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 12:19 AM |
| 5 | Kursat Pekgoz strikes again. Shots fired at total Title IX Bullshit...Well, that was a joy to read, and quite uplifting. I wish these folks all the best of luck in their efforts. I feel kind of bad for college administrators though (although not that bad, LOL)—they kind of can't win. They can't go back to sweeping these cases under the rug (that cat's out of the bag), but now they can't just auto-expel accused students without risking some very costly lawsuits. If they play the middle ground, I imagine they'd get it from both sides. This is why I think making Titl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/19 12:15 AM |
| 1 | What do you make of those "women-respecting" classes and tests for immigrants?This: That doesn't mean the West doesn't still have a long way to go in comparison to an hypothetical, idealized gender-equal society. EDIT: You do understand that the above sentence is in agreement with this one from you, right? the West ain't exactly a paragon of gender equality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:50 PM |
| 2 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?Does it matter, the history, when whites are assaulted by modern blacks many times over what blacks are assaulted by whites? Do you have any stats on that? Not necessarily questioning what you're saying, but I'd still like to see the numbers. From the standpoint of nation-wide U.S. statistics on violence, I could easily see Whites more often being the victims of other Whites than Blacks, given that Blacks only make up 17% of the U.S. population. Also, I'm fairly certain that, when you look at wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:43 PM |
| 7 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?I think you're forgetting that sexism = gender prejudice + power. Women have no power, so they can't be sexist towards men, only prejudiced. Whites do have power though, so they can be racist towards Blacks. Hence: false equivalence. /s, obviously, but it's really sad some people really do believe this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:28 PM |
| 1 | In regards to male violence, what do you think of this argument? Is is valid or not?Yeah, I'm actually from Chicago, and I now live in another major metropolitan U.S. city, and it's the same basic story. Gang- and drug-related activity seems to be the most direct source of violence and homicide, with domestic violence as perhaps a close second. However, that's densely-populated urban areas. I wouldn't be surprised if violence in more rural communities had other principal causes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:24 PM |
| 3 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?I don't know what the overlap is between the female patrons of The Wing and the women who protest male-only clubs, but I agree there are some hypocrites out there. What I find more hypocritical is that women's clubs like these seem specifically designed to compete with the "old boy" networks in big business. Given that many/most of these women would probably like to see those networks demolished, it's amusing to see them give up and simply try to develop one of their own. It's blatant "oppressiv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:21 PM |
| 2 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?What are the attitudes you imagine to be behind them that you see as problematic? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:17 PM |
| 2 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?IIRC, the reason the Boy Scouts started accepting girls had nothing to do with caving to political pressure to include them. It was because their numbers were declining, and it was determined that accepting girls would boost the economic survivability of the organization. Also, I think the Girl Scouts condemned that move, because their numbers were hurting too, and they saw it as the BSA cutting in on their market. Personally, I have no problem with all-girl troops, so long as they continue to h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:16 PM |
| 1 | What do you make of those "women-respecting" classes and tests for immigrants?Obviously, no country has achieved true gender equality yet, but the context of the post is really about comparisons of gender equality between Western European and Middle Eastern cultures. Within that context, it's a no-brainer: Western European cultures are far superior in this regard. That doesn't mean the West doesn't still have a long way to go in comparison to an hypothetical, idealized gender-equal society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:11 PM |
| 3 | Caitlyn Gray sentenced for lying about Kenan BasicThis is partly why I can't stand arguments for leniency for false accusers on the grounds that punishing them might dissuade real victims from coming forward. If there is any group of people that is angered by false accusations as much as victims of them, it is victims of sexual assault. Furthermore, every time a case of proven false accusations crop up in the news, the majority of comments I see on it advocate for harsh punishment. Those who shy away from punishing these liars out of concern fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 11:06 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of Kate Manne and her concept of HIMpathy?Your comment has been removed, because it includes a personal attack on another user. Please keep your comments more civil in the future. If you disagree with this ruling, feel free to message the moderators. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 10:37 PM |
| 1 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?In theory, you're right—if Blacks and other racial groups are allowed to congregate and advocate for their own racial interests, why shouldn't Whites be allowed to as well? The problem lies in the historical and sociological context in America. Pretty much the only groups that engage in advocacy for Whites are White Supremacist groups—modern iterations of the KKK. While I do think the laws need to remain equal in opportunity, it's ignorant to ignore the sociological realities of our time. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:43 PM |
| 1 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:35 PM |
| 9 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?This article was posted over on TwoX, actually, and a woman commented on that line, saying she was a "bigger" woman, and this made her uncomfortable. Thankfully, this article quickly got downvoted over there. Looks like some women at least think stuff like this is bullshit, which is heartening. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.That's a fair point, actually, I'm not sure why I used the word "lenient." I think what I meant was that her changes placed less pressure on schools to find in the accuser's favor, but you're right, she did so by adding requirements as much as (if not more than) removing them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:27 PM |
| 1 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?I don't necessarily, it's just a much more preferable line of action to me than rigging the system to give women an unfair advantage that itself serves as an incentive to enter the field, and then later remains as an engine for female privilege. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:25 PM |
| 2 | In regards to male violence, what do you think of this argument? Is is valid or not?Well, I don't know the actual stats off the top of my head, but I would assume quite a lot. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:21 PM |
| 12 | In regards to male violence, what do you think of this argument? Is is valid or not?They give evidence in terms of drug trafficking and gang violence, where majority of victims are men. They act like choosing to engage in these activities is entirely up to the men in question. A lot of these guys grew up on gang-run streets, being used by drug traffickers to move products when they're just young teens. The consequence of not joining a gang? You have no protection when another gang targets you. No joke, joining a gang is just a survival move for young men in certain areas. So th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 07:52 AM |
| 2 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.No prob. It's worth looking up for the details. Complicated issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 07:32 AM |
| 3 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.The guidance he gave to the Office for Civil Rights (the government body that oversees Title IX) via letters in 2011 and 2014, telling them to threaten removal of federal funds from colleges that failed to make changes to their policies, which were aimed at combating the problem of schools sweeping sexual assault complaints under the rug. It was a wildly "successful" move (and to be fair, aimed at fixing a real problem), which nonetheless has resulted in colleges simply flipping their bias and n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 06:42 AM |
| 6 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?I think I get the idea behind them: they're female-only networking venues, which are designed to counter "old boy" networks, and help women help themselves up corporate ladders. Thing is, this is really just creating a women's version of a bad thing and calling it a good thing. If successful, these institutions will become entrenched and will not go away when women no longer need them (much like women-only scholarship programs and such). This is how efforts to help women that employ the very tac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 06:13 AM |
| 4 | How do you guys deal with feminists like these?I'd much rather feminists just come clean and admit they have no interest in helping men. The only reason they put up a show is so that non-feminist men's advocacy groups don't gain traction. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/19 05:11 AM |
| 6 | My fiancée wants to circumcise our possible future son and I need help convincing her.Option 1: Teach your son to properly wash his junk and use condoms during sex. Option 2: Mutilate your son's genitalia so that he...still has to properly wash his junk and use condoms during sex.... | /r/MensRights | 18/12/19 05:03 AM |
| 2 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?you're welcome to call me an MRA and argue why it's accurate, but I would draw the line at you asking that I identify as an MRA in all circumstances, particularly as both MRA and Feminist are fairly charged titles to hold in this political climate. Perhaps you meant that and I was failing to understand you? Yes, but more? It's really that I find the act of labeling another person with a label they reject to be quite disrespectful and arrogant. Where's my Machine Rights Activist flair at though? … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 04:30 AM |
| 3 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesFair enough, I also enjoy civil discussions with people I disagree with. And IIRC, I only made one comment about your tone being dismissive. Thanks for the debate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 04:23 AM |
| 5 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesFair, although I'd still argue not an effective use of time or effort to attempt. I see it as integral and necessary to the advocacy of men. You can't advocate for men while ignoring one of the chief purveyors of misandry in popular culture today. I'm sure if either of us ran a post about shared parenting or men's prison reform, rather than complaints about people who oppose that, we could get something constructive going. This is precisely my problem with your mentality about advocating for men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 04:20 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?No, because, you see, you support equality, so that makes you an MRA. Why don't you want to make it clear to the rest of the sub that you support equality? I jest, of course, but can you now see how this irritates non-feminists when feminists tell them they should identify as feminists, because "they support equality?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 04:08 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?Okay, thanks for clearing that up. So, you don't mind being labeled an MRA? I could make you some flair. ;-) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 03:46 AM |
| 18 | A "Women Only" club is being frequented by men, because the club can't legally bar them. Patrons claim this is "male entitlement," but is it not also "female entitlement," given that women often protest male-only spaces? Should we have gender-exclusive spaces at all?For my own part, I only really care about equality. Whether we make gender-exclusive clubs legal or illegal, it has to apply both ways. None of this "boys' clubs are toxic, women's spaces are empowering" crap. However, trans people do throw a wrench into this issue. Given the complications created by this, my thinking is that it's just simpler to ban gender-exclusive clubs. But I'm curious as to other people's thoughts on this, particularly those who see value in gender-exclusive clubs and simil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 03:34 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?And yet now you claim you care as much as I do. But, again, if that's the case, why did you have no problem with the statement to begin with? Your comments in this chain seem inconsistent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 03:12 AM |
| 4 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesIf they're not going to help even with strong public criticism, why bother with the criticism? Because it can potentially sway public opinion enough to decrease the popularity of misandrist feminist ideas. Feminists in the UK are currently protesting misandry being made into a hate crime. They allege it will be used by misogynist anti-feminists to attack them and prevent progress on women's rights, but the flipside to that is that they really just don't want their misandrist rhetoric becoming il… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 03:11 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?If that's true, then I don't understand why you seemed not to understand the objection to feminists saying "are you for equality? then you're a feminist!" That's precisely what's going on there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 02:56 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?might mistakenly apply to us. No, I don't have a problem with someone making a mistake; I have problem with someone consciously labeling me with a label I don't like in an effort to invalidate my views. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 02:42 AM |
| 6 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI disagree that there is even a "feminism as a whole" to hold accountable, nevermind the absolute futility of attempting to do so to a decentralised, fragmented and contradictory social movement. I'm sorry, but that's incredibly specious and a defense used by virtually all feminists to defend feminism. You defend feminism—as a whole—by claiming there is no "whole" feminism. You're employing a rhetorical trick and denying by implication that there are any systemic patterns in feminism that are pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 02:34 AM |
| 6 | Being in support of men's rights and men's equality is a liberal, "social justice" positionI agree, and I think it's a shame the social justice types are so unreflective that they can't see that happening in their midst. It's the treadmill of fanaticism: relatively moderate people who are nonetheless myopic in their passion pave the way for true fanatics, who take things too far when the moderates get what they want and let the extremists take the reigns. Then, when those people do things they find horrible, they claim they never intended that and deny any/all responsibility. Really, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:51 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?Because I don't like having a label applied to me that I dislike and don't feel represents me. Labels should be applied to oneself, not others. Is that so hard to understand? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:32 AM |
| 4 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI don't know where the heck people get the idea that MensLib is some kind of feminist ass-kissing space. It's not. You can disagree with all sorts of tenets from all of the various forms of feminism in MensLib and you won't get silenced or banned (I've done so, and been upvoted), as long as you're making a larger point and not just whinging for the sake of whinging. What you call "whinging for the sake of whinging," I have a feeling I would call, "holding feminism as a whole accountable for syst… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:29 AM |
| 1 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?Because feminist actions indicate otherwise. Christians who advocated conversion therapy maintained that they "loved gay people and just wanted to help them." Just because someone says they're for something doesn't actually mean their actions reflect that claim. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:15 AM |
| 16 | This Crosspost is a Masterful Synthesis of the Primary Arguments for Why Men's Advocacy is NecessaryIt's an excellent post, truly. Sadly, due to its length, few people will probably read the entire thing—especially those who need to. Regardless, I've saved it for future reference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 01:06 AM |
| 3 | What do you make of those "women-respecting" classes and tests for immigrants?Much as it pains me to say this as a member of America’s Democratic Party, the party as a whole has a shocking lack of understanding about this basic concept of social interaction. This is a central point of frustration with me about much of the Left right now. It's like they don't remember anything from what they learned in school about the role tolerance and empathy play in equality movements, much less the lessons about self-reflection and attending to your own prejudices before those of othe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 12:59 AM |
| 3 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesThat’s my impression as well, but I’m sure any feminist would deny engaging in that kind of circular logic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 12:50 AM |
| 6 | What do you make of those "women-respecting" classes and tests for immigrants?Thoughts on the video: A lot of the tension in these classes is based on the fact that Western European (in this case Norwegian) culture is being presented as better than Islamic culture. Now, with respect to content of women's place in society, I 100% agree that it is better, but the presentation is necessarily going to create strong emotional resistance if it doesn't take great pains to avoid demonizing Islamic culture generally. I don't really know how you get around that, but it seems to me … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/19 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Being in support of men's rights and men's equality is a liberal, "social justice" positionAgreed! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 11:46 PM |
| 2 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI guess just because it's more widely used. But also, women can have entrenched concepts about what it means to be a man that overlap basically boil down to believing in 'toxic masculinity' but to just call their position misandry isn't quite correct, because there are other women who are misandrists actually because they hate men. This rationale makes no sense. The term is unquestioningly divisive, and a term like "internalized misandry" is the analogue to the one feminists used to discuss the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 11:45 PM |
| 2 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI want an answer to this one: why do you insist on using the term "toxic masculinity," when "internalized/societal misandry" is both more accurate to the concept and more consistent with feminist criticisms of femininity in past decades? Everyone is here to build their ideas about things, I'm not an exception to that. Just because I don't agree with everything you are saying doesn't mean I disagree with you about everything. That may be the case, but I still think you're disingenuous with respec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 11:24 PM |
| 7 | Caitlyn Gray sentenced for lying about Kenan BasicI'd like to know what people think should be done in cases like these. For my own part, I think this woman needs to be shown no leniency, and it looks like the courts are gearing up to do just that. A few points then: Her lawyers are making a big deal about her suffering from a mental illness. I treat mental illness. Based on what's said in the article and her behavior, I would guess that this woman is suffering from depression, but also exhibiting some cluster B personality traits (tendency to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 11:17 PM |
| 13 | Being in support of men's rights and men's equality is a liberal, "social justice" positionAs I've said many times before, I'd have no problem with social justice if it was actually just. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 10:40 PM |
| 3 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesNo, that's not true. So, it's "yes, of course feminism demonizes men, but let's not talk about it?" Feminist misandry and bias when they wield as much social power as they do is part of the problem male advocates face. Feminism has become to men what patriarchy is to women. You can't just ignore it. Saying 'feminism bad' doesn't seem like a constructive approach. No one here is saying all feminism is bad. Reasonable MRAs merely say large portions of feminism are bad. That is constructive, becaus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 10:36 PM |
| 4 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women Subcultures(sigh) You don't get it, and I don't think you ever will. You seem to think that feminism has only ever done good things for women, never bad things to men, when the truth of the matter is that it is more complicated than that, and that in doing good things for women, they have unbalanced things, which has had bad consequences for men. They have also just outright said some horrible shit about men, and that's not just the radfems, the mainstream feminists (including 3rd wavers) have done this re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 08:49 PM |
| 3 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesSure, and that's something that we need to build men up to as well. I don't think the problem is that feminism builds women up. Men need to be built up as well. You missed the part where I said "women alone." The problem is that feminism has a bias in which gender it supports. there's a tiny sliver of denigration of men. It's not a tiny sliver; it's much broader than you seem to reckon. And that's fair. If you think so, then you have not understood the problem. No, I'm aware of the 'pushing one … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 08:38 PM |
| 4 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI think your objections essentially boil down to, "because feminism says it aims to do things other than this, it isn't responsible for these phenomona." But what's being said is that feminism is having or at least contributing to these effects, whether or not it means to, and I don't think you're paying much attention to that. The author is bemoaning how men are no longer following the manly gender role models of previous generations, but I actively tried to do better than that when I became a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Are men really less masculine and women less feminine than they were in the past?I've always felt that "femininity" and "masculinity" are artificial concepts that only as much meaning as we proscribe to them. Mostly, they just mean "stereotypical ideas about men/women." Masculinity has never held a major place in my life as a man—I've never defined myself in any substantial way by my gender. And I think people as a whole would be better off without these concepts holding large sway in their life. On this, I agree with what feminists claim they want to do, which is completely… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 03:10 PM |
| 10 | How Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Women SubculturesI'm (cross-)posting this, because I think it's a critique of feminism's effect on today's culture regarding men and "masculinity" that might be somewhat more palatable to the menlibbers here. I don't agree with everything in it, and I don't expect menslibbers will either, but I'm interested to see if some of them will be able to accept that feminism has had some negative effects on the world today, particularly on men. Can they accept that feminism itself bears some of the blame, and not just ra… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Vaush had another debate on MR, this time with anti-tradcon MRAYou don’t have to, but it would be helpful—particularly if you want more responses. Not everyone is going to take the time to watch long videos, so if you want responses to specific things in them, it’s good to make note of them specifically. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 06:14 AM |
| 9 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.Obama has become quite vocal about his misandry since leaving office. While in office, he kept it to his executive orders (OCR debacle), but now that there's no political cost to it, he's come out fully with his sexism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/12/19 01:37 AM |
| 0 | Barack Obama: women are wonderful and better leaders than men, somehow. What gender equality? They are better than us, also we need equality of outcome between the 2 sexes.Considering the alternative was Hillary, I don't. But I have since regretted not voting for McCain. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 11:44 PM |
| 6 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?2nd wave feminists are still responsible for the production of radical feminism and the Duluth Model. They're not free from criticism either. I understand that there are plenty of feminists out there (the majority, probably), who are merely supportive of advancements for women, and have no conscious desire to oppress men, but they still have/do support policies that do oppress men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?"A bunch of 18-22 year old women have complained on the sporadic occasions that a bunch of 18-22 year old men have tried to form a men's club on campus". This precisely what I mean: you deny that there's a clearly observable pattern here. You will get nowhere keeping your head in the sand about this. It quickly becomes really sadly obvious that this is just mensrights in a nicer dress shirt, because basically the whole schtick here is "feminists suck, but I'm gonna write paragraphs instead of se… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?It is not "small bore" stuff. It is mainstream resistance to progress on men's rights. So, no, we cannot talk about men's issues without talking about feminist resistance to progress on them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Sorry, but it's not petty to point out that the National Organization of Women is against shared parenting laws that merely aim to add transparency to the family court system in such a way that any biases that may be present are exposed. It's not petty to complain that whenever and wherever a men's rights group tries to be set up on college campuses, feminists on said campuses protest them. That's not "a couple young feminist women," that's a systemic pattern. IMO, you're minimizing the extent t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 11:04 PM |
| 4 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?If what you are worried is that feminism doesn't do enough internal gatekeeping and policing, I think that's well in hand. I very much disagree. Do they do that? Yes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 10:57 PM |
| 4 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?I disagree. As I said, men don't choose to be men; feminists do choose to be feminists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?It is absolutely true. Not only have I and many other people personally experienced it, it's explicitly stated on the sidebar that the sub is "pro-feminist," and one of the mods who is ITT admitted he censors comments (he just denied that it has anything to do with feminism, which is untrue). As for discussing men's issues without talking about feminism, I don't think it's that feasible, because eventually you will come up against feminist resistance in your pursuit of equality for men. Feminist… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?That’s not relevant. You can’t criticize feminist ideas that are supported by the mods on /r/menslib, because doing so will get your comments deleted and yourself banned. That’s authoritarian feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 10:21 PM |
| 7 | How to deal with the heterogeneity of feminism?There is a big difference though, between making generalized statements about a political group that people elect to join or identify with and a gender/race that people are born into. When feminists generalize the horrible actions of a tiny fraction of men (rapists) to statements about all men, that is a gross and unjust slandering of men. It’s not the same when the feminist agenda is actually set by a handful of feminist academics and organizations, who can legitimately be said to be the leader… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?It's informed by all of my beliefs, but "feminism" isn't near the primary impetus. It is, based on what I've seen, as well your sidebar. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 01:33 PM |
| 1 | American College Of Pediatrics Reaches Decision: Transgenderism Of Children Is Child AbuseThis is just a fringe, far-right, anti-gay, anti-trans group folks, not the American Academy of Pediatrics. In other words, this crap doesn't represent the views of most pediatricians and isn't even really all that newsworthy. | /r/MensRights | 16/12/19 04:51 AM |
| 5 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Your sub literally excludes people for questioning feminist dogma. What you categorize as "the usual shitheads" is anyone whose views you find offensive, no matter how politely they're stated. You can pretend to yourself that's being open-minded and tolerant, but it's quite clearly censorship of views, and not even extremist ones. You keep the yoke very tight over there, and it absolutely is informed by your feminist beliefs. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/19 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Yes, gassy is one of the mods of r/promalecollective - even though he can be hot-headed from time to time, he is fairly decent at judging people's character. He regularly slings insults at people here and exhibits a fanatical "if you don't agree with me, you're a feminist shill" attitude. That is more than a little "hot-headed" and certainly doesn't speak to him being a good judge of character. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 06:11 PM |
| 0 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Removed: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts? What do you think of this study?Yeah, it's rather infuriating to me that my own field hasn't spoken up more about this public misconception, although I think that may well be because a lot of social workers actually buy into it, and engage in selective attention to confirm their biases. I've talked to several of my colleagues about the need to question patients who report abuse, and they've all been rather uncomfortable with it, but in a very gendered way: they question male complainants, but not women. It's pathetic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Occasionally, yes, they do. I have tons of problems with feminists and feminism, but I don't take the extreme view that them or it are 100% worthless when it comes to men's issues. And name-calling is hostile. Stop. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Feedback Sticky: Thoughts on "low effort posts"Alright, due to a number of posts recently that just ask basic questions without providing any external resources to spur discussion, I'm in agreement that we need to have rule banning low-effort posts. /u/serpentineeyelash, what do you think? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:35 PM |
| 7 | If feminism's explaination of and solutions to mens' issues aren't sufficient; what do you think is the cause and how do you think we should go about fixing them?Personally, I don't think some sophisticated theory for the origin(s) of sexism in society is needed to combat it, only the ability to recognize it when and where it's occurring. Patriarchy theory and all the other ideas generated by feminist academics has done little to improve the fight against societal sexism that simple common sense hadn't already taken care of. You don't need to subscribe to the idea of patriarchy to know it's only fair to give women the right to vote and work. You don't ne… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 04:50 PM |
| 1 | I know that this sub has a sort of anti feminist bent to it, so I was curious what you would think of this discussion of toxic femininity and how both toxic femininity and masculinity are a product of patriarchy and addressed by 3rd wave feminism.I agree with all that. Well, mostly. I do give him credit for talking about how “toxic femininity” harms men; most feminists I’ve talked to about that topic won’t even admit that, let alone talk about it at length. Regardless, it’s small potatoes. I agree he’s not substantially different from his peers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 09:13 AM |
| 6 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Last I checked, Nazis have no relevant views on men’s rights. Now, cut the hostile crap. We tolerate outside perspectives, but not hostile language. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 09:11 AM |
| 6 | Vaush reviews 'Feminists vs MRAs'It's not because they were the only candidates they could find, that's silly. They chose the candidates and then edited to make MRAs look bad. Feminists tried to shut down as many screenings of The Red Pill as they could. They shut down any MRA group on college campuses. They don't want anyone talking about men's issues that they don't sanction, because they want to be the only voice telling people what to think about them, if anything at all. The only reason they've even started addressing men'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 08:02 AM |
| 8 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Don’t have to say it here to say it elsewhere, much less think it. You’re a feminist zealot, personally responsible for much of the censorship that goes on in /r/menslib. I don’t respect that kind of authoritarian bigotry, and it has no place here. You don’t like this sub, because we permit ideas that go against your own, and you can’t make this space the echo chamber you’d like all men’s rights subs to be. Menslibbers and their ideas are allowed here, because we’re not like you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 07:45 AM |
| 3 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?There are bad elements on the Left. We all know this. I don’t agree with all the demonization, but there’s a kernel of truth in it. I feel the same way about the Right, quite frankly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 07:41 AM |
| 1 | The Gender Paradox of ReligionInteresting side story: years ago, I asked the question on /r/atheism, "why don't feminists and anti-theists work together, since they share the goal of wanting to tear down organized religion's patriarchal elements?" The responses I got surprised me. Apparently, it has been tried multiple times (I was referred to a series of subs on Reddit, all variations of the term "Atheism Plus"), but the results were disastrous. Apparently, the atheists/anti-theists couldn't stand the philosophical mores of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:25 AM |
| 10 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?Your hypothesis isn't worth shit when it's based on a biased meter that categorizes anyone who doesn't subscribe to your personal brand of feminist principles as a misogynist incel neckbeard. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:11 AM |
| 4 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?https://time.com/4919011/donald-trump-alt-left-antifa/ The “alt-left” designation helps explain the Democrats’ emerging civil war, with extremists assailing centrist liberals, and turning the word “neoliberal” into one of their overused epithets. It exposes the postmodern fanatics: bullies who violate liberal principles by shutting up speakers they dislike; brats who riot in Berkeley, Portland, Oakland and elsewhere when they don’t get their way; hypocrites who denounce their opponents’ unreason… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 05:07 AM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...Want me to change my mind? Show me the evidence that the suicide rate is because of people like me who refuse to romanticize or enable their delusion. I have no interest in changing your mind about that. I only had an interest in teaching you what a delusion is/isn’t and why trans people aren’t suffering from them. But you’ve made it quite clear your mind is closed with respect to that, so we’re done. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/19 12:10 AM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...To be specific, I don’t want research on trans sexuality. I want evidence that the reason the majority of the transgender suicide rate is due to people like me, who refuse to entertain psychological delusion. I’m requesting research on the SPECIFIC matter of transgender suicide rates. Wait, why? We weren’t talking about that and I made no such claim. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 10:59 PM |
| 33 | Is this sub getting taken over by feminist and menslibers?There’s always a few of them around, but no, I don’t think it’s been taken over. As annoying as I find some of their posts, I do like having a feminist presence here, as I don’t like the idea of this sub becoming an echo chamber. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 10:58 PM |
| 3 | I know that this sub has a sort of anti feminist bent to it, so I was curious what you would think of this discussion of toxic femininity and how both toxic femininity and masculinity are a product of patriarchy and addressed by 3rd wave feminism.constantly been talking about toxic femininity While never once using that term. And the only times they use it now are when they want to convince people who object to the term "toxic masculinity" that they're not just being misandrist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 09:44 PM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...Not sarcasm. I'm taking your logic and using it against you. Are you more concerned with reaching an understanding or are you more concerned with being right? I ask because people who commit the argument from authority fallacy tend to be in the latter camp No, see that's all passive hostility, and I'm not going to put up with it further. Either phrase your arguments in non-hostile terms or I'm going to start deleting your comments. You want to talk about scientific approach, then I challenge you… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 08:50 PM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...If sarcasm is all you've got left, I'm going to bow out. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Vaush's debate with a "mgtow"OP, please provide a summary of what points you'd like to see discussed in this video. It's nearly an hour long. And, while I can't speak for the community, I will say that I've merely seen a few videos of Vaush's posted in the past 48 hours, and people here seem to have mixed views of him at best. I personally find him to be merely a slightly-more-palatable feminist than most, but still quite biased and holier-than-thou. Furthermore, I find people who just post personal rants on YouTube to be o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 08:37 PM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...It is a delusion. You literally cannot argue against this fact other than commit the special pleading fallacy. That's not what I'm doing; I'm pointing out that the medical professionals who treat delusions have a far more nuanced and well-informed understanding of the term than you do. Again, by your simplistic definition that a delusion is a "false belief," all religious people are mentally ill. If we take your logic, then Rachel Dolezal is not delusional, she suffers from racial identity disor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 08:25 PM |
| 1 | To the men here who have a wife...It is not a delusion. It was considered a delusion before we had evidence showing it likely isn't. Now we do. Again, you need to address the research surrounding this issue. Simply claiming something is a delusion when the vast majority of psychological professionals disagree with you isn't an argument. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 08:07 PM |
| 0 | To the men here who have a wife...How so? I outlined the reasons why the APA made the change. How does that not answer your question? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 07:58 PM |
| 2 | To the men here who have a wife...Because I think I can see where you're going with this though, let me see if I can speed this conversation up. If, at some point in the future, we become able to change a person's gender identity via some neurological procedure, society will then have to contend with the fact that it may be easier, more cost-effective, and potentially create better clinical outcomes, to treat gender dysphoria by altering patients' brains rather than their bodies. If such a scenario comes to pass, I suspect there… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 07:57 PM |
| 2 | To the men here who have a wife...It was actually only changed upon publication of the DSM-V, and the reasons for changing the name had to do with the stigma surrounding the word "disorder." If treating professionals are taking the view that the identification as the opposite sex itself is not the problem, but merely the mis-match between the brain and the body, then it makes sense not to categorize the identity as "disordered." The new term reflects the view that the dysphoria (sense of being in the wrong type of body) is the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 07:49 PM |
| 3 | To the men here who have a wife...I don't think you quite understand the nuances surrounding delusions as understood by psychological professionals (of which I happen to be one). A delusion is a false belief that has no legitimate basis in reality that explains it. Such supports can be cultural, which is why we don't regard religious beliefs as delusions, despite the fact that they have no real evidence backing them up. In the case of trans people, the research that documents a small subset of people identify as the opposite gen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 07:26 PM |
| 3 | To the men here who have a wife...God, your faith in medicalism is so naive I have not outlined any article of faith, and I haven't been talking about "medicalism." I've been talking about medicine, the research surrounding the legitimate medical condition of gender dysphoria, and my thoughts on how that should inform societal mores regarding transfolk. it would be amusing if it didn't lead you to attacking transpeople. I have attacked no one, simply refused to acknowledge the trans status of people who merely claim they're tran… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 07:06 PM |
| 3 | To the men here who have a wife...If it turns out decisively that brain gender is a false hypothesis and transpeople actually have similar neural structures to their birth sex, are you going to turn around and start protesting trans rights? If future research somehow invalidates prior research done on gender dysphoria (I have a hard time imagining this scenario, to be honest, but I'm willing to try for the purposes of this argument) to the point where it becomes clear that trans people are not suffering from a neurological condi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 06:28 PM |
| 2 | To the men here who have a wife...No, it's not. It's actually the basis on which trans status was accepted in the first place. The view that trans people are simply those who identify as trans, regardless of their reasons for doing so, lumps a lot more people who are very different in with trans people who actually have and have struggled with gender dysphoria for their entire lives. Do you also support rights for otherkin? Should we have separate bathrooms for people who think they are wolves or zebras? Should taxpayers have to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 05:58 PM |
| 2 | To the men here who have a wife...I very much disagree with you and think views like yours are making societal acceptance of trans people harder. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 05:51 PM |
| 3 | To the men here who have a wife...The people I'm referring to from my personal experience were both biological women with diagnoses of Borderline Personality Disorder, who had rape histories, and began identifying as "trans" very late in life. Without going into details, I will simply say that my interactions with them made it relatively clear to me that their self-identification as transfolk were really just attempts to grapple with the disempowerment they felt with regards to men, rooted in their rape experiences. I know for a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 05:41 PM |
| 5 | A Pew research on people's views towards abortion.Given that feminists define what feminism is, I don't think the two are so easily separable. When we have mainstream feminist organizations saying blatantly misandrist things and supporting misandrist policies, arguments that there are just "some bad feminists out there" seem like an attempt to keep public perception of the movement "pure," by denying/ignoring that the leaders of said movement have the very views defenders label "bad." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 05:33 PM |
| 2 | To the men here who have a wife...I've met fake transgenders, and they are a problem, in that they muddy the waters around how people understand what transexuality is. I don't really see how ignoring an issue like this makes the sub "better" on trans issues, unless, by "better" you just mean "blindly supportive." I support trans rights, but I also have a healthy appreciation of the complexity of trans issues, and how they potentially complicate matters for everyone else. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 05:22 PM |
| 4 | Vaush reviews 'Feminists vs MRAs'OP, I have a question for you: do you think the debate this video is about is a fair representation of MRAs? If so, I'd like to hear your arguments (with evidence) as to why you think most MRAs are incels and/or share incel views, and if not, I'd like to know why you felt this video was worth discussing here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Vaush reviews 'Feminists vs MRAs'Fun. Sounds like this video and the one it's based on are weaksauce. Next! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts? What do you think of this study?My experiences are that the vast majority of DV cases involve bi-directional abuse. When I've questioned people reporting DV in therapy, I've regularly found that they aren't the "innocent" victims they initially claim they are, regardless of gender. People have a tendency to complain about the violence committed against them, while intentionally hiding and/or glossing over the violence they themselves committed during the interaction. In my experience, these people are not overwhelmingly people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 12:46 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts? What do you think of this study?I read the abstract, but not the full study. Suffice it to say, the abstract's claims about the realities of domestic violence do not coincide with my observations as a therapist who deals with domestic violence "on the ground." As such, I am extremely skeptical of its claims, because they collectively paint a picture that is not reflective of reality as I've seen it. EDIT: Having now reviewed the paper histories of the authors of this study, I am even more convinced my skepticism is justified: … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 12:30 PM |
| 3 | To the men here who have a wife...What are you referring to as "psychological delusion?" Are you saying all trans people suffer from this, and are you saying that we as a society should not "indulge" it by using their preferred pronouns and allowing sex-altering surgery? For the record, while I personally won't tolerate inter-gender pronouns like xe/xer, I do tolerate using the binary pronoun that the person I'm speaking to prefers (he/she). I also have no problem with people getting sex-reassignment surgery and most (sports-exc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Vaush reviews 'Feminists vs MRAs'Can you give a summary of what points Vaush makes that you think are relevant here? I don't feel like watching the entire video, but I am interested in his points. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 11:33 AM |
| 9 | To the men here who have a wife...I'm glad to hear your wife has sympathy for men's issues. That's a thing that is not often-enough championed in our society. However, I am a little concerned about both of your views about trans-gendered people. Don't misunderstand that I agree there are legitimate concerns about fake transgenders abusing rights pursued for legitimate transgenders, but I think it's important to make the distinction. If you don't see said distinction, then I think we are in strong disagreement. If you can, then I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Dating and Hooking up as a men's rights activist in Los AngelesAlways interesting to get an inside look at your life, bro. Thanks for sharing. :-) For my own part, I tend not to date feminists. That's not because I have some rule against it, it's just that I genuinely find their views are not compatible with my own, and that it leads to too much conflict 90% of the time. That's not to say I don't think romantic relationships between feminists and MRAs are impossible. To the contrary, I've seen/heard about more than a few at this point, and they make complet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 02:05 AM |
| 12 | To the men here who have a wife...While it's refreshing to hear a male feminist talking about aspects of "toxic femininity" that actually harm men, not just women, Vaush doesn't acknowledge anywhere in his rant that he is not actually representative of mainstream feminism—even mainstream 3rd wave feminism. He claims 3rd wave feminism is equally concerned with men's issues as it is women's, but 3rd wave feminism has been around for quite a while now, and women's issues continue to be at the nigh-exclusive forefront of their discu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/19 01:19 AM |
| 1 | I don't want to be conservative anymoreextremely unequal. I wouldn't describe it as such, mainly because that's a relative concept, and relatively, the U.S. is one of the most egalitarian countries in the world. It's fair to say we still have lots of problems and there's a long way to go towards true equality, but we're light years ahead of most nations in the world, some parts of Europe being the exception. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Finding it hard to 'debunk' hypergamy but it's also being used to justify far right superstructures by tradcons. Solution?To be honest, your view of MRAs seems tainted by an over-exposure to PUAs, MGTOWs, incels, and other extremist types. I came to the MR movement mainly via /r/mensrights, and while there are certainly some folks on that sub who express the views you describe, they're nowhere near the majority. As such, I see far more of a spectrum in the MRA community, and the main bands seem far more in-line with an egalitarian perspective than not. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 11:48 PM |
| 4 | Do you think feminists nowadays are too sex negative?Thanks for the link. Yeah, there are certainly outliers, but the norm within feminism is to treat male sexuality as barbaric, aggressive, perverse, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 09:47 PM |
| 7 | Do you think feminists nowadays are too sex negative?Yes, perfect example. They have this ridiculously obvious bias, wherein they see male sexual desire as crude and oppressive, while female sexual desire is sensual and liberating. What's interesting is that—unlike with many other areas in which they demonize men—they don't even really make an attempt to disguise their bias here; they haven't invented a "polite" lexicon for criticizing the male libido, they just openly call it dangerous. Just more evidence that feminism isn't really interested in … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 01:02 PM |
| 22 | Do you think feminists nowadays are too sex negative?Feminists tend to be heavily sex negative when it comes to men and a mix when it comes to women, but mainly positive in recent decades. The male libido is a favorite target for demonization among feminists of virtually all stripes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/19 02:02 AM |
| 8 | What, if any one thing, made you think this sub was needed?If you want to discuss male issues, we have r/mensrights which is heavily co-opted as a platform for misogyny It’s really not. It gets irrationally anti-feminist a lot, but it’s not misogynistic. The community there is pretty good about that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/19 04:57 AM |
| 1 | R/unpopularopinion can be pretty horrible but I actually agree with this one.If the "body positivity" movement were solely about fighting against overt body shaming, then I'd agree with you, but IME it's not just about that. They regularly push for overweight women to be regarded as "sexy" and be given the status that fit women have. They shame men for rejecting women, because they're overweight. That isn't about fighting body shaming, that's about insisting men and society regard them as more attractive than they are. Body shaming is a legitimate issue in that fat peopl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 11:24 PM |
| 1 | R/unpopularopinion can be pretty horrible but I actually agree with this one.Removed: no personal attacks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/19 11:11 PM |
| 6 | Why are feminists so adamant about defending Ironic misandry ?Because as long as they can keep it "ironic," they can maintain that they're not actually misandrist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Thanks for the links. Mary Koss is vile, and I hope she's remembered as vile. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 07:53 PM |
| 8 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Fantastic. This is why we need to document this crap—so that people looking to support men realize feminists/menslib are a false flag. Thank you! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 12:52 PM |
| 4 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).I’m not surprised there’s low participation on /r/menslib—it’s always seemed to me that feminist subs in general have low participation, although I’m not sure why. I chalked it up to Reddit being mostly men in the past, but I honestly don’t know. Regardless, I’m not worried about /r/menslib. They don’t address all of the issues and don’t acknowledge the problems feminism poses for men. That’s just sticking your head in the sand. Even if some men want to join them in their fantasy, sooner or late… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 12:49 PM |
| 15 | Great post on /r/mensrights countering arguments on /r/menslib for ignoring the issue of false rape accusations (credit to u/Egalitarianwhistle).Men’s issues are becoming more popular to support, but a lot of people don’t want to be associated with MRA movements, because the anti-MRA feminist smear machine has been quite successful. People still want to see feminism in the light of a halo, without addressing its many flaws and misandrist aspects. EDIT: Also, I kind of suspect there’s a decent amount of overlap with /r/mensrights subscriptions among moderate passive lurkers—people who are interested in tracking news on the subjects, but d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/19 12:33 AM |
| 5 | I call Bullshit on the False rape accusation sticky from Mens Lib sub. Actual lies are being told.Excellent post! I'm cross-posting this to /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/19 10:50 PM |
| 16 | Does anyone here dispute the assertion that "significant misandry is easily found in the output of mainstream modern academic feminism"In my experience, most people active on here understand that feminism is rife with misandry, even in the supposedly more high brow academic circles. We do get a few people here from MensLib though, so you probably bumped into one of them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/19 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Mike Bloomberg is running for president. How do you think he would be for men's issues?Exactly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/11/19 03:30 PM |
| 13 | Thoughts on the article? It's advisable to read the whole thing to get a better idea.I just see more sexist hand-wringing from the NY Times. "Women are doing better than men, but this means their dating/marriage prospects are shit. Such injustice women continue to endure!" Even when women are winning, they're the victims. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/11/19 04:06 AM |
| 13 | Mike Bloomberg is running for president. How do you think he would be for men's issues?I don't think Bloomberg has any real desires to address issues of diversity, equality, etc. As such, I don't see him as being a particular hindrance or a help to men. That being said, as a New Yorker, I will not vote for him. Why? Because while he was mayor of NY, he used a cheap loophole to get himself a third term. Someone like that cannot be trusted with political power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/11/19 03:54 AM |
| 9 | What are the issues that primarily/disproportionately affect boys in developed and developing countries?A recent blog post posted on /r/mensrights cited a study by the UN on "deprivation of liberty" among children worldwide. The study defines this as follows (page 6, item 18): In preparing the study, the Independent Expert decided to follow the broad definition of deprivation of liberty and places of detention as set out in article 11 (b)of the Havana Rules of 1990 and article 4 of the Optional Protocol to the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/19 07:26 PM |
| 5 | Woman forced an ex to have sex, not even charged with rapeMontana's Laws on Sexual Assault: 45-5-502. Sexual assault. (1) A person who knowingly subjects another person to any sexual contact without consent commits the offense of sexual assault. (2) (a) On a first conviction for sexual assault, the offender shall be fined an amount not to exceed $500 or be imprisoned in the county jail for a term not to exceed 6 months, or both. (b) On a second conviction for sexual assault, the offender shall be fined an amount not to exceed $1,000 or be imprisoned in… | /r/MensRights | 23/11/19 06:21 PM |
| 13 | The Price of SexIt makes you think about how much of our economics is tied to gender politics. Women in developed countries are increasingly earning a greater share of the pie, and yet societal expectations for spending in courtship remain the same. This is untenable. Women need to stop expecting to be treated on dates, to get gifts, to have a ring bought for them as a proposal item. And men need to stop doing all that. Insist women pay their half on dates and don’t shower them with gifts—women have no incentiv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/19 07:47 PM |
| 1 | We Need to Talk About Black Students Being Accused of Rape Under Title IXSince I'm against the logic of punishment, the definition is not relevant to me. I don't think we can have a discussion then, as I do believe in punishment for crimes. Honestly, when you say there's no point in defining rape, save for punishing rape, I think you've gone off the end of a philosophical pier. Given that, I honestly don't see much point in responding to the rest of your comment. Save for this: Power stems from fear. No, it does not. No serious consideration of how power is obtained … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/19 07:57 AM |
| 5 | We Need to Talk About Black Students Being Accused of Rape Under Title IXIf a woman is unable to express her feelings when having sex with someone who is not part of the affirmative-consent culture then it is SHE who will end up raped. That depends on how you define rape. Personally, I don’t consider a person who fails to assert themselves and gives little-to-no indication that they aren’t interested, such that the person they’re with doesn’t realize they aren’t consenting to be a rape victim. That’s only become a controversial opinion recently, due to affirmative co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/19 01:38 AM |
| 11 | Feminists want England to legally say that hatred of men is somehow better than hatred of women.The reasons for this are pretty obvious IMO: feminists have used anti-male language and made sexist generalizations about men for decades, and they know that if misandry is made a hate crime, men will start demanding the law punish them for doing this. They don’t want to have to stop demonizing men, as it’s always been integral to how feminists advocate for women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/19 11:20 PM |
| 6 | We Need to Talk About Black Students Being Accused of Rape Under Title IXIt is important both to encourage white women to say no instead of expecting having their mind read, even if their partner is black. And it is also important to teach black people who are outside from the culture of college educated white people and do not know their social norms about sexuality about consent. In most discussions of affirmative consent I’ve had with feminists, this kind of nuance is completely rejected. Women have no responsibility to say “no;” the onus is on men to get a “yes.”… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/19 11:10 PM |
| 2 | "No men are allowed to ride in this taxi" - A new female only taxi in the capital city of OsloSomething like eighty five percent of businesses started by women only sell to women. Source? | /r/MensRights | 18/11/19 12:05 AM |
| 2 | Every girl knows that guys prefer to asked out; yet so few will do it cause they can't get that equality goes both waysIt’s fine. I didn’t remove your comment, precisely because the complaint against it was weak. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/19 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Racism and Misandry -- not Misguided but Evil.Precisely. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/19 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Feminists and the media were concerned that Joker would lead to mass shootings. It didn't.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States The section on contributing factors doesn’t even list influence by extremist groups, but I recommend going through the list of deadliest shootings individually and seeing how many feature extremist group influence and how many don’t. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityIt is interesting and points to a lot of issues in the DSM imo. The DSM certainly has issues, but which ones do you think this article points to, out of curiosity? I know more people than we realize are heroin addicts who are perfectly 'functional' people. Well, I don't know about functional heroin addicts. Heroin is pretty disabling. But functioning cocaine addicts? Hell, yeah. Functioning cannabis addicts are practically legion. The question for these hypomaniacs is if they do it despite or be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Feminist panel on ABC suggests violence against men.No, VRR is the same. It's a network of shelters. And she asked to volunteer to the same one. Oh. Well, then that's really fuckin' stupid. They also had something against her being a pilot pre-transition. They said it was only due to being perceived as male that it happened. It was in their 'lived experience' explanation, that having had male privilege, she could not understand women. Yeah, sounds like a really open-minded, tolerant, totally non-transphobic, non-misandrist lot. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 05:28 AM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityI don't really understand how you can say it isn't inherently dysfunctional and yet you have only met one person who even remotely functioned while trying to sustain this state. To the contrary, the fact that there's even one example proves the dysfunction is inherent to the mental state. The fact that there are so few simply means it's incredibly hard to maintain. It's a bit like psychopathy. Certain psychopathic traits, properly managed, are actually advantageous. A well-socialized, controlled… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Racism and Misandry -- not Misguided but Evil.You know putting the word in bold doesn't make me more accepting of it as a descriptor, right? I gave you an argument, and a font change is all you've got to back up your position? C'mon, man. Emphasizing the word just makes it seem like the main thing supporting your point of view is emotion, which is precisely the point of my criticism of it. It's an emotion-fueled, judgmental label, nothing more. Better to understand the actual reasons something bad exists, rather than merely employ a superla… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 05:16 AM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityAlso, you might find this interesting: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/22/health/psychology/hypomanic-absolutely-but-oh-so-productive.html | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 01:49 AM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityWell, one of my responsibilities is to inform my clients about things like the fact that the majority of people who struggle with Bipolar Disorder aren't able to maintain a hypomanic state—and I have, numerous times. Like I said, I don't support what they're doing, but in the case of hypomania, I have to admit that what they're aiming for isn't inherently dysfunctional. The comparison to a heroin addict isn't really apt, as there are clear and objective detriments to doing heroin regularly. I al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 01:33 AM |
| 5 | Racism and Misandry -- not Misguided but Evil.I think it's fairly dangerous to describe virtually anything as "evil," as it glosses over the complexities of the phenomenon described as such, which hampers our ability to better understand how those things come about. If we're going to curb the prevalence of things like racism and sexism, we have to understand how they are misguided conclusions, based on legitimate concerns. Human beings are complex, as are ideas. Labeling people or their ideas "evil" obscures their complexity. This gets us n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 12:32 AM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityI would agree with that. But I think there's a difference between fighting for class-based rights and making a particular demographic variable a defining feature of your identity. I'm interested in men's rights, and I'm a man, but my interest is primarily based in my honest appraisal that the current gender-political climate requires a greater emphasis on men's issues (and far less demonization of men); if I lived in the 1950's I'd probably side with the feminists of the era. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Every girl knows that guys prefer to asked out; yet so few will do it cause they can't get that equality goes both waysThis comment was reported, but will not be removed, because my reading of it leaves me with the impression that no gender-specific insult was intended. Still, try not to make generalized statements like this in the future. Not all guys respond to being propositioned by women in the fashion you describe. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/19 12:06 AM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityI'm not sure what you're point is. Mine is that, despite our history of it or even an observed tendency towards it, we should strive to resist it as much as possible. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:56 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityThanks, but I'm aware of how difficult sustaining hypomania is, and thus why many people with Bipolar Disorder eventually give up on it. Also, I never meant to suggest that I encourage this, I just don't actively discourage it either, because one can't really argue that—if sustainable—it's a bad state to be in. The argument made in the article you just linked to is that it's ultimately not sustainable, and not worth the periods of depression that come with it, but in therapy with my clients, we … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Feminist panel on ABC suggests violence against men.I looked up Mona Eltahawy. I see what you mean about her having a history of working in mainstream publications prior to this, so maybe it's wrong to refer to her as "fringe," but I still wouldn't say she counts as a "leading feminist thinker." Furthermore, I don't think the majority of feminists support her advocacy of violence—that is a distinctly radical feminist position. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Feminist panel on ABC suggests violence against men.Interesting. So she was able to get counseling exclusive to female rape victims, but was barred from providing it? Seems like an obvious internal ideological conflict, although I suppose the organization that provided her services was different from the one denying her the right to provide them. Personally, I have very mixed feelings about the legality of discriminating by gender in the hiring of rape counselors, even when the customer base is exclusive to one gender. Customers should be free to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:27 PM |
| 3 | Feminists and the media were concerned that Joker would lead to mass shootings. It didn't.It's 40 minutes long and, based on the title, simply explains how extremist groups radicalize at-risk people. Perhaps you should explain how the content of the video negates any of the points I made; then I might invest in watching it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:15 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityIdentity based on ethnicity, religion, and social class existed at least since Ancient Egypt. Agreed, but I would argue it's brought more strife than not. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had enormous character flaws, but their fighting for American Identity against George III was their virtue. They didn't fight for an American "identity," they fought for freedom from British rule, mainly for economic reasons. It had nothing to do with identity politics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 11:12 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityDo you think it is healthy for a bi-polar person to try to be manic all the time? Or just desire manic episodes in general? I can't imagine such a person has accepted the nature of their illness. And I am not saying there aren't positive parts to mental illness, people in a manic episode can be productive (as long as they have direction), but that obviously isn't sustainable. No, the patients I'm referring to aren't trying to sustain full-blown manic episodes; they understand that full-blown man… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 10:59 PM |
| 4 | Feminists and the media were concerned that Joker would lead to mass shootings. It didn't.Wrong—this message is misinformation and should not be spread. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Feminists and the media were concerned that Joker would lead to mass shootings. It didn't.Mass shootings happen for a variety of reasons, not just because some extremist right-wing groups prey on insecure men. In point of fact, those inspired by American right-wing groups, such as White Nationalists/KKk, make up a minority of the mass shootings that have happened in the U.S. The majority factors involved are mental illness of some stripe and/or a history of violent behavior, combined with a multitude of stressors and bad life circumstances. Feminists like to pretend most/all of them … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Feminist panel on ABC suggests violence against men.Sorry, don’t get the reference—what’s VRR? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/19 01:43 PM |
| 10 | Self-partnered: the sudden, surprising rise of the single positivity movementI don’t have a problem with people choosing to remain single and not have kids. If anything, it’ll ease the problem of over-population. My problem with the article you posted is how it makes this trend about women, when it’s really not. It even says at one point that it’s being “led” mainly by women, but men have been choosing bachelorhood over marriage for eons. The Guardian is a feminist rag that can’t stop extolling women every way it can think to. And Emma Watson’s term for it? “Self-partner… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/19 10:18 AM |
| 10 | The framework / cause of men's issues: malagency, in-group biases, and gender feminismI suppose I disagree with one of your central premises: that it is necessary or desirable that a men's movement needs a theory of oppression to justify it's complaints. The reason I disagree is that I view past theories as having succeeded by creating a false "enemy" out of a demographic. This is a very powerful rhetorical tool for uniting people against a common "foe," but ultimately, I think that these sorts of theories are what have lead us into the political quagmire in which we currently fi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/19 02:56 PM |
| 4 | Feminist panel on ABC suggests violence against men.First of all, let me just say, it's a pleasure to finally be able to put a face to a person whose commentary I've long respected online. Best of luck with your channel, dude! Now, not to nitpick, but I have to take some issue with your point about these feminists being "mainstream" feminists, at least in the sense that they're considered leading thinkers among feminists. I think it's far more accurate to say that these are fringe feminists who are being drawn into the mainstream by ABC, rather t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/19 02:38 PM |
| 11 | Some dude tried to dismiss men's issues as well as minimizes the trauma of male victims of female rape.The fact that he's wrong about the "statistic" he "cites" isn't even the biggest problem here; the biggest problem is that he seems to think that, because a majority of the perpetrators of a crime share a gender with some of their victims, those victims don't deserve the same degree of help as those who don't share said gender. I swear, the irrational thinking that some feminists promote in their members is so reminiscent of the very obstacles of sexism they had to overcome, it's irony is mind-b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/19 02:19 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentitySo it wasn't really the disability that forged your identity, it was your reaction to it. Well, see, I think it becomes a sort of chicken-or-the-egg conundrum, because is that trait inherent in you or did the disability force you to develop it? I hear what you're saying though, and I think I basically agree—we should identify with the parts of ourselves that overcome obstacles, not the parts of ourselves that are obstacles unto ourselves. I actually hate this perspective and each time I hear som… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/19 01:53 PM |
| 1 | The Three Components of my IdentityAnd if you'd rather have a disability I'd say you've spent too long identifying with it. Eh, I dunno, I can understand how, after something—even something as objectively bad as a disability—shapes your personality over time, you eventually realize you wouldn't be the person you are (including many of your good traits) without it, you might lose your desire to remove it from your life. Also, as someone who treats mental illness, I know more than a few people who struggle with Bipolar Disorder, wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:33 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.Because? Because patriarchy is about men having power over women. When talking about gender norms that merely split men and women into different societal roles, both of which are advantageous and disadvantageous in different ways, that isn't patriarchy. For example, division of labor in agrarian economies, wherein men did the hard physical labor of tilling the field and hunting, while women raised children, gathered crops, and made textiles is not patriarchal. Excluding women from government, ho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 07:13 AM |
| 5 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.I don't think you understand where you are or who is already here. Read the sidebar and lurk a bit before you start participating on a sub to which you're new. There are plenty of MRAs here, probably more than there are menslibbers, but there are some MLs too. If you collapse MRAs and fascists and conservatives into the same bin, you don't belong here. Conversations on this sub are intended to be more nuanced than that, and if you can't keep your comments above that relatively low line of intell… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 07:00 AM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.I suppose that's true in the sense that MRAs just criticize feminists, whereas feminists criticize men. The former is ideological criticism, while the latter is sexism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 06:54 AM |
| 3 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.What does this have to do with anything? The sentences that preceded it. No it doesn't. It seeks to call out toxic behavior. No, it seeks to identify certain aspects of masculinity as toxic. That implies that certain aspects are non-toxic, and indeed, why we see feminists/menslibbers having conversations about "positive masculinity." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 06:53 AM |
| 3 | The Three Components of my IdentityThere's noting wrong with the concept of intersectionality in a completely neutral sense. The problem is that it isn't used even remotely neutrally. It's used as a means of organizing people and groups into a hierarchy of oppression and pitting them against each other. And not all leftists subscribe to feminist or social justice dogma. Your skepticism simply indicates you have a very narrow view of the Left. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 06:50 AM |
| 3 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.It is aligned with the patriarchy gender roles It makes no sense to talk about societal sexism as patriarchy when it's acknowledged that it harms both men and women. It's high time feminists got over this term. There are some norms that could reasonably be considered patriarchal, in that they put men in positions of power over women, but there are just as many that could be considered matriarchal for the same reason. However, those instances are dwarfed by those that simply pigeonhole men and wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:37 AM |
| 3 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.Sorry, but on second review, I'm removing this comment for violation of Rule 7 (no personal attacks). You're calling the people you're debating with "misogynistic idiots." If you can't debate with civility, don't debate here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:31 AM |
| 5 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.Me bringing up a real point and misogynistic idiots jumping on me for not making it about hating women. Please cite me a single comment in this thread where you think that's what's being advocated. MRAs criticize feminists, not women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:29 AM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.MRAs don't genuinely care about men's rights. They use men's rights as a front to spread misogynistic bullshit. This is a real men's rights sub with people who actually care about men's rights. You have no idea what you're talking about here, and are really just advertising your own gender-political biases. There are plenty of feminists who could arguably be said to prioritize hating men over helping women, and yet you don't judge all feminists by their bad example. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:25 AM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as "positive" masculinity.I concur wholeheartedly: masculinity is merely the status of being male. That's it. There are traits that are culturally associated with it, but those are gender stereotypes, and society would be far better if we could eliminate them as much as possible. This is why I'm so against the concept of "toxic masculinity" (well, one of many reasons): it seeks to define masculinity in terms of good/bad. The conversation feminists are seeking to have surrounding it is literally them "femsplaining" mascul… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:22 AM |
| 8 | The Three Components of my IdentityOP, please don't construe what I'm about to say as an attack on you, but generally I think it's better for people to not form their identities around demographic variables like race and gender. These are features of your birth that you had no control over and do not need to define you. I would also argue that even a mental illness that you're born with should not define you, but I recognize that they often alter one's life so much that it's hard not to admit it shapes your personality in major w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 01:13 AM |
| 4 | This thread got me thinking about the issue of gender in mental illness (link in comments)If I'm thinking of the same memes the OP is referring to, I think he is misunderstanding them when he characterizes them as being misogynistic. They are pointing out that society generally doesn't attend to male depression they way it does female depression, which is a comment about society, not women. He also gets this totally wrong: Most notably, the OP states that "I've seen some people defend it as "decrying toxic masculinity" but the memes clearly imply the man is willing to ask to help, it… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/19 12:06 AM |
| 5 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooIt's condescension, plain an simple (as well as being an asshole), and I don't see why we can't just call it that and leave it non gendered. I know why some feminists use it, it's more of a cue to get attention. I think it comes from a habit feminists have of thinking that any common complaint women (or really just feminist women) have about men deserves special consideration, because it's automatically a feature of patriarchy and thus a societal injustice. Doesn't matter if there's a male analo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooI think the term was always intended to be used that way, tbh. That's why it's a shitty, sexist term in my book. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Exhaustive, Unbiased Summary of Title IX and Campus Sexual Assault Issue — An incredibly long read, but immensely informative and with no spin!No highlights, really, I was just impressed with how comprehensive and unbiased the article was. Thought I'd post it here as an educational resource. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/19 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooShit, did I just mansplain mansplaining? LOL. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooWell, I think you're probably right just on the grounds that "mansplaining" is limited to feminist circles, whereas the broader social justice crowd is more likely to use a term like "gaslighting," because it's more broadly applicable. Not sure it's really a fair comparison, tbh. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 02:04 AM |
| 2 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooMrm. Well, as much as I'd consider that a minor improvement, I'd still consider such liberal use of the term "gaslighting" to be another example of how sophomoric the social justice crowd is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Exhaustive, Unbiased Summary of Title IX and Campus Sexual Assault Issue — An incredibly long read, but immensely informative and with no spin!I was really impressed with this article. It provides a full history of the development of activism on this issue, how Title IX was changed to address it, and what the modern arguments are on both sides. It sticks pretty much completely to facts and offers no editorial opinions at all—just straight information. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 01:45 AM |
| 14 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooSo now man/femsplaining means “invalidating your feelings?” I thought it was about explaining something the person you’re talking to actually knows more about, based on the assumption that someone of their gender doesn’t know much about that topic. Honestly, I think these terms—like many in the modern social justice/feminist lexicon—are balls-to-the-wall stupid, and really just serve to display the prejudices of the speaker, rather than point out any truths in society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 01:36 AM |
| 4 | Medium: Men Should Get Our Best Behavior, TooI think mansplaining has been replaced with “gaslighting” these days. Can you explain what you mean by this? It sounds like you’re saying that feminists aren’t using the term “mansplaining” much anymore, and have instead opted for the gender-neutral term “gaslighting,” but this just isn’t true in my experience. Have I misunderstood you here? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/19 01:32 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Females Are The Only People Who Matter When Reporting On Police MisconductFound the study the referenced statistics come from: https://rlc.org.au/sites/default/files/attachments/Rethinking-strip-searches-by-NSW-Police-web_0.pdf Go to page 26 to see the gender comparison table. Unsurprisingly, men constitute 75% of those strip-searched. Also unsurprisingly, the only victims the Guardian cares about are the women. EDIT: Also, at the bottom of page 31, there's a case study of a 12-year-old boy strip-searched in public, outside of a supermarket, which the Guardian did not… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/19 01:15 AM |
| 1 | I want to helpI donate monthly to the National Coalition for Men. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/19 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Mod made and pinned blatantly sexist postIncels have never been welcome here and MGTOW is generally only appreciated as an idea—the MGTOW community, to the extent it supports actual misogyny, isn't. Comparison of this sub to yours is a joke. This is a space for men's rights discussions and criticism of feminism; your sub is a hate sub. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/19 11:22 PM |
| 3 | Is the shunning of disability mostly a male problem?I'd be interested to take a look at that study if you have a link to it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 11:20 PM |
| 4 | Thoughts on this article?I'm highly skeptical it explains it, as—since these issues are prevalent among men as well—63% is quite a gap to explain. Also, that study noted that gaps were observed at every step of the judicial/policing process, not just sentencing. Plus, clearly feminists don't think it does, because they don't feel these differences are being properly attended to by judges. One extenuating circumstance particular to males might be that boys/men are more often the target of gang-related violence, and often… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Mod made and pinned blatantly sexist postHating half the population ain't a recipe for a happy life, sweetheart. Have fun with that. ;-) | /r/MensRights | 05/11/19 01:24 PM |
| 7 | Mod made and pinned blatantly sexist postLOL, that's just sad. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/19 05:10 AM |
| 5 | Mod made and pinned blatantly sexist postI did a reverse Google image search and found this posted in two different subs. Neither post was by a mod, one was just making fun of the other post, and the original post appears to be on a sub dedicated to making fun of the content of a feminist sub. In other words, this image is meant to satirize the views of some extremist feminists. If some other feminist mod actually reposted it to a sub I wasn't able to find, expressly for the purposes of making fun of men, then she seems to have become … | /r/MensRights | 05/11/19 04:49 AM |
| 4 | Is the shunning of disability mostly a male problem?I think there's likely a societal bias in awarding men disability status for some of the "less visible" disabilities (e.g. back pain, depression, etc) less readily than women, and I think there's some truth to men internalizing this "tough it out" mentality, but I'm not sure I would agree with the notion that disabled women are fawned upon in society the way you describe. I would agree that men are more likely to experience things like partner loss if they become disabled, because it prevents th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 12:26 AM |
| 6 | Is the shunning of disability mostly a male problem?Just look at how taxpayers subsidization the difference out, disabled men have to pay double the taxpayer of that of able bodied men, but disabled women almost live a life eternally free. Can you provide a source for this? That seems like a blatant violation of how disability statuses are meant to interact with tax laws—so blatant that it strains credulity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Is the shunning of disability mostly a male problem?I'm not going to remove your comment, but please be careful with the hostile language. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on this article?Moreover, this article seems to be talking more about circumstances that affect women more. But that gives me pause and makes me wonder - could male criminal behavior not be explained by circumstances that tend to affect men more? You don't even need to go there, as many of the circumstances cited by feminists to defend the gender sentencing gap and even widen it cite issues that affect men too. Tons of male prisoners are victims of abuse, struggle with substance abuse, and the lives of their ch… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 12:11 AM |
| 0 | "Shotgun dad" masculinityIt's worth noting that every single example you gave was clearly a joke. In my experience (which is definitely limited to certain areas of the U.S.), actual examples of this are very rare these days. I can believe that there are legitimate examples of this and that it's more prevalent in certain areas of the country than the ones I've lived in, but I think it's safe to say this is considered very traditionalist behavior these days, akin to asking a woman's father for permission to propose to her… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/19 12:01 AM |
| 1 | What are the examples of men being natural protectors/self-sacrifice?In the Aurora "Dark Knight" Massacre, three men died shielding their girlfriends from gunfire. It's not hard to find other examples of this sort of behavior from men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/19 11:42 PM |
| 1 | What are the examples of men being natural protectors/self-sacrifice?When that plane landed on the Hudson River after suffering a double-bird strike straight out of LaGuardia Airport, the passengers were evacuated women and children first. It was dubbed the Miracle on the Hudson. Everyone survived, thankfully, but the sexist policy was still implemented. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/19 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Feminist mods and the problems it causes.Removed, same as above. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/19 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Feminist mods and the problems it causes.Removed for a litany of personal attacks. Learn to make your points with civil language or don't comment, please. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/19 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Every girl knows that guys prefer to asked out; yet so few will do it cause they can't get that equality goes both waysI'm removing this because of the language you used in your title—generalizations like "every girl," followed by an assertion of a negative quality counts as demonizing women. You can bring this topic up for discussion without such language. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/11/19 11:16 PM |
| 4 | Study Finds Majority of U.S. Respondents Favor Revising the 1st Amendment to Restrict “Hate Speech”They’re not that bad. Definitely have a political bias, but they’re pretty good about reporting facts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/10/19 04:55 AM |
| 22 | Study Finds Majority of U.S. Respondents Favor Revising the 1st Amendment to Restrict “Hate Speech”Curious as to what people here think of this. Personally, I’m very pro-1st-amendment/pro-free-speech, even if it protects hate speech. I don’t trust the public to decide what’s hate speech and what isn’t, much less enforce the law in an unbiased manner. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/19 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Why are you guys left wing?No threats or advocating violence. Find other ways to express your thoughts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Update. Image posts.Alright, cool, me too. I just think we should be erring on the side of tolerance with regard to the issue, and judging each post individually. I don't like the idea of banning image posts outright. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Update. Image posts.So, you can post whatever image you want, so long as you include a comment in your own thread, explaining why you think it should be discussed? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:40 AM |
| 1 | U.S. Soccer says the women’s national team gets paid more than the men’s teamI honestly don't know enough about the details to say, but your guesses about the leagues creating separate pay structures based on their own interests makes sense. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if the female players had a say in it, and actually wanted a base salary and benefits; it's just they also want the high bonus potential the male players get, and are perfectly willing to cry sexism in order to get it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Update. Image posts.<shrug> It just means there won't be any actual image posts. It doesn't seem that difficult to judge whether or not an image is click-baity to me. I would agree that images of social media posts, memes, simple quotes with an image, etc, are low-effort and low-content, and should be deleted. But what about images of posters and/or ads that contain actual statistics and show how certain organizations are speaking publicly about men's issues? Those seem worthwhile.... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:29 AM |
| 1 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manLet him have the satisfaction he needs that he is the one in control. He seems more concerned about that than learning about perspectives he may disagree with that could still teach him something he doesn't already know. Which is a white man stereotype of course, one that he is free to follow. Keep using racial stereotypes to justify your opinions and I'll keep deleting your comments. Keep it up too long, and I'll recommend /u/serpentineeyelash ban you for repeated rule violations. You can make … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:25 AM |
| 3 | Update. Image posts.Again, what about infographics, with stats and stuff in them? Seems to me that we can ban low-effort, image click-bait posts, but leave images that have enough content in them to provoke a decent amount of discussion, no? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/19 12:20 AM |
| 17 | I want to talk about my feminist ex-therapist.As a therapist, I have to admit that I've met a handful (thankfully not more than that, but still) of other therapists who have truly drunk the "woke" Kool-Aid, and both advertise it proudly and apply it in their practices, usually to negative result (IMO). For example, I have a coworker at my clinic who is a proud feminist, and there have been a number of complaints about her from some of her male clients, who claim she was dismissive of their stories of being victims of IPV, and rather than be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 11:53 PM |
| 1 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manYes, I'm a white male and I made no attempt to hide it. Now, explain why that matters or I'm deleting your comment on the grounds that you're playing on stereotypes about white men being ignorant (hate speech). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 11:23 PM |
| 3 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manTo be honest, I'm getting a bit annoyed at how bad you are at living up to your username. As much as you don't think these things matter I never said they didn't matter, I said they shouldn't matter. People focusing on them is what is making them matter. Yes, it happened during the Colonial Period, but it's having a resurgence now, and I don't think further engagement with it is a good idea, as you seem to think. they are getting kind of thrown around at you a little bit, aren't they? Yes, and I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 11:17 PM |
| 1 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manNo, I'm not saying it isn't a big deal—I'm saying it shouldn't be, but people have made it so. Race activists have ironically encouraged people to judge each other by these shallow surface traits by emphasizing the differences between demographic groups, rather than what they used to do: focus on the commonalities, which are far more important. Now, it took that entire useless comment chain just for you to come out and say what you wanted to say? Please, going forward, just say what you think, r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 10:40 PM |
| 3 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manAlright, you have not understood my comment at all. Good day. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 09:31 PM |
| 3 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manYou think any of this needs explanation? What is your point with reference to what I said in my comment? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 08:14 PM |
| 1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.Just because you are ok committing rape You’re an idiot, and I’m not going to waste further time with you. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/19 06:20 PM |
| 5 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manI don't think you do, since you're asking what appears to be an absurd question. I don't have time for these sorts of coy rhetorical games. If you have a point, make it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 12:28 PM |
| 1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.No, I ask, because you don't seem to understand the naunces of forepaly, which makes me think you lack experience. Apply any idea too rigidly and it becomes absurd. I guarantee you, if we went through most people's sexual history, you would find a point at which they violated consent in some fashion. According to you, all of these people are rapists and deserve to be in prison. That's absurd. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/19 12:27 PM |
| 1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.Yes, I do. Do you understand what "going along with it" means? | /r/MensRights | 23/10/19 12:23 PM |
| 9 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manYou’re missing the point. The point is that I don’t identify particularly strongly with any of that. No one should. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 02:55 AM |
| 7 | My struggle to own who I am as a White manAn interesting autobiography of a person grasping for a sense of identity amongst variables (race/gender) that should never define us. A pity he only slips deeper into this quagmire, rather than realizing the game is rigged. Honestly, this is just an exercise and glorification of identity politics, and represents all the modern thinking I think is serving to divide people more than unite us. We need to stop defining our selves via race and gender, rather than digging deeper into what it "means" … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/19 02:35 AM |
| 15 | A mother's warning: If you have white teen sons, listen up ... - CNNBased on the writing and my general experience with parents and older liberals when it comes to this sort of thing, I don’t trust the author or the cohort she’s talking to to understand the subtleties of these terms or online discourse in general. I don’t expect them to understand how the groups of people who use these terms overlap and how not all use them the same way. The author even admits she overreacted when she first found out, and I honestly doubt she improved in her understanding, just … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/19 09:35 PM |
| 1 | U.S. Soccer says the women’s national team gets paid more than the men’s teamI’m no expert, but I think the allegation is that, since both leagues are run by the same organization, they gave the male athletes better deals than the female ones. The argument is that the male pay structure allows for higher bonuses, based on performance, so that’s what they’re claiming is sexist. They’re NOT claiming the minimum salary and health benefits (which only female players receive) is sexist though, shockingly enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/19 09:27 PM |
| 1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.It’s not sex without consent if you’re knowingly going along with it though. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/19 09:23 PM |
| -4 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.I’m aware this is the new standard. I don’t agree with it. Under that classification, virtually everyone is a rapist. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/19 04:28 PM |
| 1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.Are you an adult? | /r/MensRights | 22/10/19 04:27 PM |
| -1 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.I do not think what was described in this post was a criminal act, no. You’re collapsing the entire spectrum of sexual impropriety into the most extreme examples of it, by using words like ‘rape’ or ‘sexual assault’ for things like this. As I said, that she ignored the safe word was wrong, but I don’t think that lets him off the hook for asserting his desire to not engage in sex. He says he willingly participated, because he’d “had a long day.” While I’m not unsympathetic to what this is like, i… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/19 01:13 PM |
| -8 | the amount of comments that says "sit down and talk to her" or "why didn't you stop it" is gross.The fact that she ignored the safe word is concerning, but to me, the really sad/scary thing in the comments is the number of people calling this rape. Rape has gotten so diluted as a word, that now you're raped if someone simply continues to have sex with you after a simple 'no,' even though you continue to go along with it and put up no further resistance. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/19 12:39 PM |
| 5 | U.S. Soccer says the women’s national team gets paid more than the men’s teamMillions-generated/games-played between 2009 and 2019. It's in the article, at the end. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/19 05:48 AM |
| 4 | U.S. Soccer says the women’s national team gets paid more than the men’s teamYeah, I just think it’s funny, cuz the reason for the study was a bunch of female players alleging systemic sexism, because they didn’t feel they were being paid enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/19 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!Fuck off, tradcon. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/19 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Back to the ols standardsIt's more understanding some people will benefit from the rules being a bit more flexible and openly acknowledged than they have been historically. There are certainly things I'd like to see change about the dating game, but ultimately, I don't think the rules of the dating game actually have much to do with what feminists tend to complain about: rape, sexual assault, and harassment. As I said, the vast majority of people don't do these things while going about their romantic/sexual endeavors. T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/19 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!Fuck off, idiot. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 09:47 PM |
| 5 | THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM by Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber)I initially approved this, because I am unmoved by people complaining about it's source. The Unabomber was a despicable human being, but his political thinking can still be discussed on the basis of ideas alone. There is plenty here to criticize; ad hominem arguments for removing the post are as empty here as they are anywhere IMO. However, on further reflection, the post is not sufficiently related to men's issues IMO. This isn't a sub for discussion of the Left or leftist politics in their ent… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/19 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Back to the ols standardsI think what we really need as a society is a very honest and frank conversation about sex, love, dating and romance and what all the rules for those things need to look like. In my mind that means we need to be much, much more honest about sex and take a lot of the gameplaying across the board out of our dating culture. We need to be much more honest with teenagers in sex ed about porn and sex and dating and how to respectfully engage with people you want to be intimate with. Women need to be m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!You're being deliberately obtuse, so I'm not going to continue this conversation. You don't want to participate there, and that's probably for the best. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!No one has ever changed the mind of anyone else. LOL, alright dude, whatever. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!If I can change a few people's minds (and I have), then MRAs can change society, given enough effort and time. Again, other groups have done this; there's no reason we can't as well. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!Seriously, I'm done with the left, forever. They're as lost and fashist as the right because they're as power hungry. Both of them promise everything, but you'll never get anything. That is what I'm calling cynicism—your contention that there is no hope. That's what I'm saying will get us nowhere. If you really feel that way, why not just give up and focus on something else? More to the point, doesn't the fact that you haven't done so yet imply that you actually do have hope and don't see things… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 02:55 AM |
| 5 | Feminist has a message for survivors of childhood genital mutilationThis feminist probably rails against "toxic masculinity" but has no problem at all calling men who want their sons' genitals protected at birth "wimps." | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!While I can certainly empathize with your cynicism, cynicism never got anyone anywhere. Other groups have felt alone and unrepresented politically, but they kept trying to convince others of the merits of their cause, and over time they succeeded. MRAs need to do the same thing. In the 1990's, I wasn't even aware of men's rights. Now, it's a dirty word, but a word everyone knows. I know it seems strange, but that is actually progress. Now that people know about it, we can start trying to change … | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 01:57 AM |
| 4 | Bret Weinstein, How the Magic Trick is DoneGreat talk! Brett & Eric Weinstein are excellent minds on the problems with the Far Left at the moment, and it's reassuring to have Leftists like them having the guts to say this stuff. Also, while the content of the above video may not be directly related to men's issues, indirectly, I feel it absolutely is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/19 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!Plenty of people on this sub prove you wrong every day. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 01:21 AM |
| 2 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!We are not like MensLib. In fact, a few menslibbers tried to make our sub a new home and found themselves quite unwelcome. Take a look at the content of the sub before you lump it in with another. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!I understand. I myself am very disappointed with my side, and this is precisely what is often discussed on /r/leftwingmaleadvocates. It's nice to have a place to gripe about that sort of thing without conservatives making much more generalized condemnations of the Left in the same discussion. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!It is, and while that's untrue and a shame, it is nonetheless the case. Part of the hope for /r/leftwingmaleadvocates is that it will attract leftists to the MR cause and get them to overturn such assumptions in their minds. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/19 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Is the Pro Male Collective really Pro Male?I'm aware of past history between serpetineeyelash and promale collective, but not the nitty-gritty of it. Regardless, I can assure you my removal of this post had nothing to do with that or any prior agreement you had with him. I'll leave the particulars of that to discussion between you and him; it seems like something that could be resolved, regardless of how many mods we have here. He has more modding privileges than anyone else here and can overturn any ruling; moreover, a mod comment from … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/19 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!If you think that 100% of the Left is feminist, you're just applying the same sort of black-and-white, us-vs-them thinking that dumbs down the very feminists we oppose. This sub is for leftists who oppose the portion of the left that is unsympathetic to men, and if you have any hope that the Left may one day cure itself of the—as you put it—infestation that is social justice feminism, you should support this sub. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/19 11:48 PM |
| 12 | The left isn't woke enough to accept men's rightsDepends what you mean by "egalitarian" and "leftist." I don't mean to be coy, these terms simply mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Generally speaking, I consider egalitarianism to be a leftist position, but the devil is in the details. For example, abortion: is it leftist/egalitarian to be pro-choice or anti-abortion? Are all fetuses children and/or deserve human rights or should women's choices be constrained by the belief that even non-fully-formed humans have a righ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 05:55 PM |
| 24 | The left isn't woke enough to accept men's rightsI think a lot of people here would agree with your thoughts here (I know I do). We're a leftist sub, but being an MR sub, that puts us in a position wherein we're critical of a lot of leftist politics surrounding gender. The purpose of the sub—in part—is to create a space where leftists feel more comfortable talking about men's issues and criticizing feminism without feeling they're partaking in an "alt-right" sub (which /r/mensrights is not, but it is cast that way in the mainstream and it does… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Is the Pro Male Collective really Pro Male?Also, if you object to specific content here, please use the 'report' feature to express your concerns. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Is the Pro Male Collective really Pro Male?Yeah, I'm subbed to /r/egalitarians, so I understand you're just putting out a PSA of sorts. And I empathize with your purpose and concerns. However, your post has a clear angle to it, and cross-posting it across various MR subs is propagandizing. Even if I personally might agree with your propaganda, as a mod, I feel the need to police with the aim of neutrality here. However, I encourage you to contact the other mods, especially /u/serpentineeyelash (the creator of this sub). I'd be willing to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!I'm not saying it's a "big problem," just advertising a place wherein small "problems" can be avoided for those interested. I agree with everything you said and thank you for subscribing. I hope you enjoy the content posted there. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/19 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Is the Pro Male Collective really Pro Male?A warning for this particular sub wouldn't take the form of a cross-post. Don't get me wrong—if warning us about such activity was your intent, that is not unappreciated, but cross-posting a general complaint post about the sub is a spam-complaint. If you have concerns about this sub, create a post, citing posts from this sub, and make an individual argument for why we should be concerned. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 04:02 PM |
| 4 | Announcing r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: a niche space for MRAs to discuss men's issues from a left-wing perspective!There's nothing petty about this. It's a sub for left-leaning MRAs who want a place to discuss MR topics from a leftist perspective, that's all. /r/MensRights is the main MR sub and it's appropriate that it accepts people of all political stripes, /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is intended to be an offshoot, not a competitor. And creating the sub is using online tools to make a group like that, so I'm not sure what you're on about there. This post was just an advertisement for the sub's existence, so … | /r/MensRights | 19/10/19 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Is the Pro Male Collective really Pro Male?Removed, since this does appear to mainly be about drama on another MR subreddit, not a post about men’s issues. I will say that I’m not against the discussion of other subs here; it’s just in this case the post really does seem to be an attempt to spread said drama, rather than have a constructive discussion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/19 11:52 AM |
| 3 | Today is the 2 yr anniversary of #metoo. Let's teach women not to rape.Here's the full text: The two encounters happened 16 years apart, but they have striking similarities. In both cases, a young actor was summoned to a hotel room by a prominent Hollywood figure more than twice their age. There, the victims allege, they were coaxed onto a bed and sexually assaulted. In one story, the alleged attacker is Harvey Weinstein. In the other, it’s one of his most vocal accusers. Asia Argento emerged as a powerful figure in the #MeToo movement last fall after telling the N… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/19 03:35 PM |
| 8 | Racists Are Recruiting. Watch Your White Sons.The first sign was a seemingly innocuous word, used lightheartedly: “triggered.” As my 11- and 14-year-old sons and their friends talked and bantered — phones in hand, as always — in the back seat of the car, one of them shouted it in response to a meme, and they all laughed uproariously. I almost lost control of the car. That’s because I know that word — often used to mock people who are hurt or offended by racism as overly sensitive — is a calling card of the alt-right, which the Anti-Defamati… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/19 01:34 AM |
| 3 | "This milestone is long overdue": Fortune journalist seems to believe that female executives whose careers were cut short were the real victims of the recession, and that Wall Street's only real problem is a lack of women CEOsNot power, but specifically hard power. Feminists want you to believe that the social, familial, and emotional power women wield is meaningless and "doesn't count", because money is the only form of power that matters. This is right on the money (pun intended). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/19 12:14 AM |
| 6 | What are your thoughts on the civilian-casualty ratio?You should probably read this report. Basically, there is nowhere near enough data to get a truly accurate picture of what is going on, but two basic conclusions seem fair to draw: men make up the majority of deaths during armed conflicts and women make up the majority of deaths in the aftermath, due largely to a variety of factors associated with the breakdown of societal infrastructure in post-war environments. Now, this is about total wartime deaths, not just civilian deaths, but it's still g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/19 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Feminist author tells readers to "imagine" killing menNo, it's not. They're pandering to a very vocal minority who have shame-fisted their way into the mainstream. And they're pandering to them, because they think that will win them votes. My aim is to make sure it costs them as well. I've already written both my senators and let them know I won't support them as long as they pander to these folks as much as they have been. I can understand why some people ultimately disagree with my decision, but there is a rationale to it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/19 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?Hrm...alright, fair enough, I didn't look at it that way. I suppose Warren's support for policies like this has me a tad biased about seeing further sexism in her platform and rhetoric. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 09:03 PM |
| 2 | “Men are trash”: the surprisingly philosophical story behind an internet punchlineI've heard of them before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_(magazine) They're not a mainstream publication by any means, but they're not a tabloid either. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 07:06 PM |
| 3 | What are your views on this?The problem described is obviously a real problem and deserves to be addressed. However, as the article itself notes, in 67% of the cases, this does not happen. Articles like these make me worry that authorities will revise the family court system to make it even harder for men to have access to their children, when we're already dealing with a biased system. The only people anyone cares about are women. A minority of women can be suffering next to a majority of men, and society will attend to t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Why should men be leftists when people like her is in control of the movement?Apparently enough to shut down a council meeting. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 06:46 PM |
| 2 | “Men are trash”: the surprisingly philosophical story behind an internet punchlineI think it's important to know such "low hanging fruit" is out there with regards to this stuff. It shows what feminists are able to get away with these days, and provides users here with examples to provide others in showing people how hateful feminism has become. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 06:46 PM |
| 9 | “Men are trash”: the surprisingly philosophical story behind an internet punchlineWhat a garbage article. Typical of the feminist mindset today to defend patently sexist statements like "men are trash." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 06:43 PM |
| 9 | Feminist author tells readers to "imagine" killing menI honestly used to believe in that principle and didn't understand why anyone didn't, but last cycle I voted for Hillary even though I couldn't stand her, and I found myself watching Trump win and feeling two diametrically opposed feelings: utter disgust that he was winning and sheer delight that she was losing to him of all people. It wasn't a comfortable feeling overall, and I vowed I'd never vote for a candidate I didn't actually support ever again. So, the reason I won't be voting in a year … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 06:05 PM |
| 16 | Feminist author tells readers to "imagine" killing menYeah, this is something Leftists in general seem unwilling to acknowledge, sadly: their embrace of radical social justice politics has pushed people in the center away from the Left. They don’t want to acknowledge that these ideas are actually bad in some ways and that their strident support of them is alienating people who aren’t similarly-minded. To them, it gets boiled down to “if you disagree with us, you’re a racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic bigot,” completely unaware of how closed-m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 02:24 PM |
| 35 | Feminist author tells readers to "imagine" killing menThat she thinks were are now (after many decades of progress on women’s rights) at the point where feminists need to start considering violent revolution is a great indication of just how hysterical feminism has become in the new century. It’s fucking sad what feminism is doing to leftist politics and to society, and I find myself wondering just how long it’s going to go on before some measure of sanity returns. A significant portion of an entire generation of people have been taught to treat wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/19 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?Why? She said pretty clearly that she assumed the person in question was a man—that's an open admission of gender bias on the topic and a comment that's completely unnecessary to answer the question. Anti-gay women exist and are more than prevalent enough not to be excluded from discussions about anti-gay rhetoric like this. Outrage at her comments seems totally legitimate to me. Imagine if she'd said, "I'm going to assume this was a Black person," in reference to how disproportionately prevalen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/19 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Dallas mother sentenced to six years in prison for faking son’s illnessesBut medically unnecessary surgical operations on boys are totally okay, remember? It's a travesty that this poor mother got any jail time when her son isn't supposed to have the same rights as girls regarding their bodies. /s | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/19 01:28 PM |
| 10 | Women hitting men and how common it ACTUALLY is.Interesting video discussing how common female-on-male violence actually is and how our society defends female abusers and leaves male victims of female abuse out in the cold, even mocks them for being victimized. Women are featured in the video openly admitting to having a double standard and feeling fine about it. We need programs and shelters for male abuse victims and probably awareness campaigns that target women, letting them know that it's not okay for them to be violent abusers either. T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/19 01:26 PM |
| – | On image posts. Yay or nay?I think it depends on the image, tbh. Some images are infographics with good information in them; others are just bad jokes or captures of social media posts from nobodies. I think the latter should be removed, but not the former. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | What can do about the male-on-male bullying being done in minority communities???Single moms of the bullies let them run amock because bullying is seen as a form of being tough and children of single moms are generally forced into adult roles much sooner. The single moms of the victims don't step up because to them, "at least the bullies will toughen him up" and "better the bullies than the world out there" I treat single black mothers regularly in therapy and not once have any of them said anything remotely like this. What they have confessed to is an unreasonable idolizati… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 08:34 PM |
| 3 | 'Shy and awkward' student, 19, faces jail after sex assault convictionHe shouldn't get any sentence. He shouldn't even have been arrested. This woman is the definition of fragility. They both need therapy. But that's not how our society sees cases like this, thanks to feminist narratives about rape and their expansion of sexual assault from actual assault to "any unwanted sexual contact." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 08:19 PM |
| 11 | Dallas mother sentenced to six years in prison for faking son’s illnessesNote that the father's protestations about this behavior were ignored for eight years, while he was denied custody and visitation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?Yes, I do. Telling you I think your opinion stems from bias is not a personal attack, but implying I'm stupid by telling me I don't seem to be thinking is. Learn to make your points in a civil manner or refrain from participating here. Good day. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 08:01 PM |
| 0 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?Removed for making a personal attack. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?There is no way in which your bias is "earned;" that suggests your bias is legitimate. It's not; you are simply biased, and as such, your opinion—you admit—is unduly influenced by admiration and not reflective of reality. I think you give her too much credit when you assert that her comments reflect a genuine and specific understanding of the troubles besetting the gay community. I think they reflect a perhaps unconscious sexism on her part, born of over-indulgence in feminist rhetoric and ideas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/10/19 04:58 PM |
| 5 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?<shrug> I think you’re a fan and have a biased opinion of her comments. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/19 11:09 PM |
| 10 | Elizabeth Warren said something sexist- why does she “assume it was a guy?” What’s that supposed t lol mean?in this case, it wasn’t so much her being sexist, as her knowing enough about it to know that the bigots are usually sexist. I strongly suspect her knowledge isn’t actually that detailed, and it was just her being sexist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/19 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Banned from r/SandersforPresident because I pointed out that Cardi B is a rapistThis wasn’t a fantasy, it was a statement of intent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/19 08:59 PM |
| 4 | Banned from r/SandersforPresident because I pointed out that Cardi B is a rapistThere was a tweet or something wherein she said she wanted to get some men really drunk/drugged and it a “tranny” to suck them off. So, maybe not an actual rapist, but a wannabe one for sure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/19 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Feminism (I'm the sense we are used to) is actually sexismI have plenty of problems with feminism, and I do believe it is sexist against men in many ways, but I wouldn't go so far as to say feminism=misandry. It's more complicated than that. Also, ego inflation is a very arbitrary and simplistic accusation to make, and not I think what ultimately drives misandry in feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Why we should distrust feminist theories about masculinity - if that wasn't clear alreadyShhh! You aren't supposed to bring her up. She doesn't count! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 06:27 PM |
| 4 | Barstool Sports and the persistence of traditional masculinity in sports cultureThe conversation is unequal the way feminists—yourself included—have it. Most of the articles about toxic masculinity that feminists they produce are about how it hurts women, not men (that's a footnote). They don't have the same concept for women, and when feminists occasionally do deign to talk about it (almost always after being challenged on this point, like I've challenged you here), they always cast toxic femininity as something that only ever hurts women, never men. But there are plenty o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Financial abuse in relationship needs to be acknowledgedRemoved: Rule 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:48 PM |
| 1 | How Women Control EverythingRemoved: Rule 3. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:48 PM |
| 1 | How Women Control EverythingRemoved: Rule 1. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:46 PM |
| 1 | How Women Control EverythingFurther trolling removed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:44 PM |
| 1 | How Women Control EverythingRemoved under Rule 3. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:36 PM |
| 1 | How Women Control EverythingEither contribute something meaningful or don't contribute at all. Your bluntly stated fee-fees are not meaningful, only considered reflection on them might be. EDIT: Actually, I'm removing this under Rule 1, because this post has nothing of value to contribute to the subreddit and is clearly just a shitpost from a troll. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Glad to see a real punishment being dispensed by a U.K. court for paternity fraud. This is a crime that too often goes unpunished. In France, it's even enabled.Thanks. Can you approve the post then? I'm tired of seeing it in the reports section. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 12:21 PM |
| 2 | So what does this mean?This is a great example of "toxic femininity" IMO. But note how that's not a phrase feminists use and they never criticize women for preferring men who out-earn them. This is the sexism of feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 12:18 PM |
| 2 | So what does this mean?Because women tend to prefer boyfriends/husbands who make more than them (i.e. toxic femininity). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 12:16 PM |
| 6 | Why we should distrust feminist theories about masculinity - if that wasn't clear alreadyGreat summary of a lot of the problems in gender/race studies culture. The essential problem is that they use "soft" scientific methods to support their personal biases about cultural concepts, and a lot of the time, that boils down to identity politics. Just look at the concept of intersectionality. On the surface, it makes a lot of sense, but the way it's employed by feminists is essentially to just put a literal "crosshairs" on straight, white, men. It's the employment of a sensical concept f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 11:31 AM |
| 7 | Barstool Sports and the persistence of traditional masculinity in sports cultureThis article exhibits the typical political bias that articles about toxic/traditional masculinity usually do. It's essentially just calling rape jokes and conservative culture "toxic," and because it's men acting that way, it's "masculinity." Conservative women are more likely to be stay-at-home moms; is that "toxic femininity?" Conservative women are also more likely to own guns; is that "toxic femininity?" Toxic masculinity is a garbage pseudo-science term that is really just a rhetorical wea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 11:11 AM |
| 3 | Why we should distrust feminist theories about masculinity - if that wasn't clear alreadyWhile I agree that gender and race studies departments have erred in the ways you describe, I would caution you against condemning all “soft” sciences under the same argument. Psychology is a soft science, but not all of its findings are skewed by political agendas. Skinner’s operant and classical conditioning, for example. I don’t want to go into a huge list, but I hope people can see that the “softness” of these sciences isn’t really the problem. The problem is the political bias in these depa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 10:50 AM |
| 1 | What we do with our emotions is a huge issue...That’s the academic definition, but it’s not how the term is frequently used by feminists. Michael Kimmel blames racism on toxic masculinity. How are men socially pressured to be racist? Feminists blame rape on TM. How are men socially pressured to rape? They blame mass shootings on it. How are men socially pressured to shoot up schools? No, sorry, but toxic masculinity is a big lie. It’s got an innocuous definition that feminists always point to when challenged on it, but the way they use it ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 10:40 AM |
| 3 | Glad to see a real punishment being dispensed by a U.K. court for paternity fraud. This is a crime that too often goes unpunished. In France, it's even enabled.Here’s an article about it: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/french-men-s-insecurity-over-paternity-of-offspring-creating-a-society-of-doubt-1.773569 Basically, French law makes it very difficult for fathers to get paternity tests, and this is what I meant by saying that it “enables” paternity fraud. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 10:32 AM |
| 1 | What we do with our emotions is a huge issue......M’kay, I’m not sure we 100% agree, as my point is that men shouldn’t be being told that they’re “toxic” for not expressing their feelings, when it’s really society that’s “toxic” for not accepting them. We fight that war by attacking people and institutions that neglect men, not by focusing our attention on men and telling them to express their feelings more in a society that won’t accept them. “Toxic masculinity” isn’t really a thing; the problem is purely societal misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Glad to see a real punishment being dispensed by a U.K. court for paternity fraud. This is a crime that too often goes unpunished. In France, it's even enabled.Yes, but t doesn’t really matter—it’s all paternity fraud. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 04:51 AM |
| 3 | What are the real areas you think feminists are right to be focussing on or may have missed regarding advocating for womens rights.Please explain how saying that women can’t shut up about their feelings almost demonizes them... A negative generalization about an entire group of people, based on factors they can’t control, is what I’m calling demonization. It’s what feminists do to men, and I don’t think it should be tolerated here. The only reason I tolerated your comment was because I felt you were merely being hyperbolic with your language and did not actually mean women, as a group, can’t shut up about their feelings. Wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/19 02:49 AM |
| 1 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.Yeah, I'm aware of Australia's misandrist policies. Thanks for the link though. That section on male victims is...just depressing. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 05:38 PM |
| 2 | What we do with our emotions is a huge issue...All I'm saying is that for a lot of men it's not as simple as choosing to open up. Do so, and there's a very real possibility those you think love and care about you will punish you for it. You can deny that's the case for a lot of men all you want; your denial doesn't change facts. Unfortunately, it many cultures and subcultures, men are expected to not show vulnerability, and if they do, they incur social costs. The problem is society and culture, not men choosing to suppress their own feeling… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/19 05:33 PM |
| 5 | Let's respect the big push for a lesson decades ahead of the game. I doubt our goals will ever get this mainstream again.I haven't seen the film, I just further summarized the plot summary I read on Wikipedia. My understanding of its reception (again, based on Wikipedia) is that it was praised for questioning gender roles in parenting, but I think very little scrutiny was given to the woman for abandoning her child, rather than empathy for her being "driven" to flee due to her feeling dissatisfied with her role as caregiver and her husband not being emotionally available to her due to his work schedule. I imagine … | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 03:37 PM |
| 3 | What we do with our emotions is a huge issue...Bill also talks about how getting a dog helped him realize how his anger affects/alienates those around him. I find it interesting (and a bit sad) that, while feminists are encouraging men to be more open about expressing feelings of vulnerability, they're also telling men to stop expressing anger, which is the way a lot of men express their pain. They treat male anger as "toxic," rather than empathizing with it and trying to understand it. As someone who treats men with anger issues, I'm well a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/19 03:30 PM |
| 2 | What we do with our emotions is a huge issue...Glad that worked for you, but your experience is at odds with a ton of men out there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/19 03:14 PM |
| 2 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.TBH, any decent analysis of these statistics will require investigation into the study they come from. The 43% stat is just about the proportion of false accusations of abuse that come from fathers; the study still claims the rate of false accusations is quite low, so it's not as if it's saying fathers make a lot of false accusations. We can speculate all day long, but without taking a detailed look at the study itself, I think most of that discussion will be just that: speculation. EDIT: Althou… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 03:07 PM |
| 2 | What are the real areas you think feminists are right to be focussing on or may have missed regarding advocating for womens rights.specifically regarding women being perceived as bossy if they are assertive I've heard this claim before, and while I don't doubt it was a prevalent phenomenon in past decades or that it probably still exists in some corners of modern society, I've never actually witnessed it or even heard a complaint about it from any of the women I've known in my life. It's just my anecdotal experience, obviously, but I sort of suspect this is a problem we as a society have largely moved beyond, and that femin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/19 02:58 PM |
| 2 | What are the real areas you think feminists are right to be focussing on or may have missed regarding advocating for womens rights.This comment was reported for demonizing women, but I'm not going to remove it on the grounds that I don't think the intent was to demonize them. The phrase "Women can't SHUT UP about their feelings" is the one I assume your comment was reported for, and while it's a generalization about women, I suspect you were saying that women are generally given greater latitude in society to express their emotions, and that it shows in their behavior. Still, /u/ThePigmanAgain, try to use less incendiary la… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/19 02:54 PM |
| 1 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.Eh, I don't know that that's really the most likely explanation. There are abusive men out there, and it's not at all unreasonable to think that they'd rely on false accusations to manipulate the court system. I wouldn't assume the majority of the men who lie are doing it out of desperation in the face of discrimination (although I'm certainly not denying they're discriminated against). | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 02:34 PM |
| 1 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.It is from the book she cited in the article. I found the pic from a recent tweet the author made. Can’t attest to the authenticity of the quote in the book, but I see no reason to doubt it. Here’s the thing: mothers and fathers making false accusations in family court cases are not mutually exclusive phenomena. We’ve all heard about abusive men making false claims in family court as a way of continuing their abuse—that definitely happens. Whether or not it’s less, as, or more common than women … | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 01:12 PM |
| 1 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.Did some investigating and, no, she didn’t make it up: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEsyl8zUcAAwjfk?format=jpg&name=large So my original confusion still stands. If mothers stand to benefit more from an investigation into false accusations of abuse, then why are feminists against such investigations? One reason I can think of might be that false accusations by mothers and fathers achieve different things in family courts. In other words, maybe fathers make false accusations more often, but they do… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 12:59 PM |
| 10 | Let's respect the big push for a lesson decades ahead of the game. I doubt our goals will ever get this mainstream again.Workaholic father gets big promotion and comes home to tell wife, only to find that she’s leaving both him and their son, because she’s not happy in the marriage. Father is forced to be a single parent and no longer has the time to devote to his job that his promotion requires. Father and son are initially resentful of each other, but their relationship improves over the course of the film. The father is eventually fired and forced to take a lower-paying job. Then mother comes back on the scene … | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 12:38 PM |
| 6 | The PM's family court inquiry is a boneheaded gift to Pauline Hanson and men's rights activists | Feminists really, REALLY don't want an investigation into false accusations by women. Funny, that.I don’t get it—if the stats cited in the article, showing that fathers make more false claims of DV than mothers, why aren’t feminists lauding this investigation? Surely, an investigation into people making false accusations in family court cases could lead to reforms that make doing so more difficult, and if men are the majority false accusers, this would be a net win for mothers, no? | /r/MensRights | 21/09/19 12:22 PM |
| 3 | The phantom malenessThis reeks of female fragility. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/09/19 01:39 AM |
| 5 | Bernie says Kavanaugh is bad because he sides with Wall Street. Feminists want to make it about women.I assume you're referring to Ford's accusations. I'm quite torn about that whole thing. On the one hand, I see very little reason to be skeptical about her claims, but on the other, I don't think people should be convicted, even in my own mind, without a decent amount of proof. Her therapy notes from 2012 are pretty convincing, but they're not proof. So, ultimately, while I sort of lean towards believing her, I'm not ready to say, "yeah, I'm confident he did that shit." Also, it's a bit nit-pick… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/09/19 12:46 PM |
| 1 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existI wouldn’t assume they have. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 09:09 PM |
| 1 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existI've personally witnessed teachers go beyond their authority and both silence and expel students from class for stating beliefs they personally disagreed with and found "heretical." I can easily see a feminist teacher taking personal umbrage with a student who has the gall to question opinions she thinks are facts in class, as it's embarrassing, particularly when it's in front of the rest of your students. I don't really understand why you think that's so unlikely to have occurred. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existI don't think it at all plausible. Then you either don't understand what that word means or have a very skewed understanding of popular politics and the extent to which organizations—schools very much included—will go to appeal to them. I'm not calling him a narcissist. Your comment—" There is not enough info for us to distinguish him from a deranged narcissistic asshole"—very much implied as much. By saying there's not enough information to tell the difference, you're saying at the very least t… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 12:31 PM |
| 2 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existDocumentation may be too late at this point, but I agree it’s good practice. Sad that we have to educate our sons to record everything, just to counter the systematic biases against them i the education system. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 04:10 AM |
| 2 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existThere is not enough info for us to distinguish him from a deranged narcissistic asshole. Seems like quite a leap in “logic” from so little information. I expressed skepticism without calling the OP a narcissist. His report is entirely plausible. Do you really doubt it? | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 04:08 AM |
| 3 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existMaybe; maybe not. The outrageous indignation could be on the part of the teacher. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 04:03 AM |
| 18 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existNo, we do. It’s just that those rights aren’t always respected or fought for. Male students and their parents need to stand up and fight if we’re ever going to see the feminist sexist bias machine brought down. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 01:47 AM |
| 46 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existOP hasn’t given much information. If the school was candid with him about suspending him for speaking his opinion, then he can at least point to those conversations as evidence. Without recordings, I suppose the school can just deny it, but it would still be admissible in court and the teacher and school principle could be questioned about it, forcing them to lie on the stand. They’d also have to come up with a bunk reason to suspend him, and I’m guessing there’s written documentation already th… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/19 01:17 AM |
| 863 | My teacher just got me suspended for saying the wage gap doesnt existConsult a lawyer if you can. Pretty sure it's illegal for your school to suspend you for having an unpopular belief. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/19 11:52 PM |
| 8 | What are the real areas you think feminists are right to be focussing on or may have missed regarding advocating for womens rights.Had feminists kept up the fight to get abortion rights coded into law on the U.S., they likely wouldn’t be in the situation they’re in now, with a bunch of states restricting access to the point of making it impossible to get one. This should be their top priority right now. And, while I think #metoo went crazy, it’s kind of hard to deny the level of unrecognized sexual harassment in certain industries, like Hollywood. So, if they can course correct for their bullshit witch hunt tactics, that’s … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/09/19 07:31 PM |
| 7 | Bernie says Kavanaugh is bad because he sides with Wall Street. Feminists want to make it about women.Well, yeah, I mean...he's male and not literally prostrating. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/09/19 05:14 AM |
| 1 | What are the issues revolving around male and female birth control?Typical feminist stance: if men want to avoid becoming fathers accidentally, they should either use condoms and hope for the best or get an invasive surgery on their genitals. Forget this notion of giving them the right to choose whether or not to claim paternity of an accidentally-conceived fetus, like we allow women—that's child abandonment! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/19 11:19 PM |
| 5 | Bernie says Kavanaugh is bad because he sides with Wall Street. Feminists want to make it about women.Sanders' comment included reference to the allegations against Kavanaugh. As much as feminists might want to always make things about women, I wouldn't say this is a particularly good example of them derailing a conversation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/19 11:15 PM |
| 1 | This is what happens when an MRA politely asks a feminist who claims that feminism is about "the full equality of men and women" to prove that she does, indeed, subscribe to that definition.Mrm. Well, I can understand criticizing his approach, but I think leaving her alone is an over-correction. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/19 11:13 PM |
| 2 | This is what happens when an MRA politely asks a feminist who claims that feminism is about "the full equality of men and women" to prove that she does, indeed, subscribe to that definition.I inferred it from your call for people to "leave them alone." If you didn't mean that, can you clarify what you meant by that comment? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/19 10:33 PM |
| 5 | This is what happens when an MRA politely asks a feminist who claims that feminism is about "the full equality of men and women" to prove that she does, indeed, subscribe to that definition.While I think posting a snippet of a conversation he himself was a part of is a bit cringeworthy, I don't agree with your assertion that challenging feminists online over their definition of feminism is wrong or unsightly. And I certainly don't think they should be "left alone." If we don't challenge feminists and point out their hypocrisies, who will? I don't generally take to Pigman's rhetoric and I'm not defending it here, but I don't see why challenging feminists online is wrong. To the cont… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/19 10:15 PM |
| 1 | A LONG thread by a TERF on women's issuesI took a glance at the "thread" (I'm not used to calling Twitter rants "threads," but whatever), and it really is about women's issues. I understand that a lot of gender issues have implications for both genders, regardless of which gender they primarily affect, but can you give a detailed explanation of why you think it's important that people here go through them as they relate to men's issues in particular? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/19 11:38 PM |
| 3 | Petition to Remove Judge who arrested a man for criticizing her after she gave custody to the mother and the child was found dead under her careSigned and shared. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/19 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Petition: Impeach Judge Rachel Rancilio from 16th Circuit Court, Macomb CountyFor those not aware of the story, Judge Rancilio gave custody of a 2-year-old to the mother, who then died in her care. The father, understandably outraged, publicly criticized the judge for her decision and blamed her for his child's death. She retaliated by jailing him under a bullshit charge. This is a blatant example of abuse of power, and this woman should be prevented from ever being a judge again, if not completely disbarred. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/19 12:07 AM |
| 2 | The breadwinner gapYup. But still quite typical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/19 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Structural differences in professional vs. domestic labor.Agreed. Personally, I've always found that, if I'm dissatisfied with how my girlfriend keeps a place, instead of complaining or criticizing, I just start doing additional cleaning, making it the way I think it should be. That gets the message across way better than words. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/19 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Structural differences in professional vs. domestic labor.That sounds true for entry level / minimum wage type positions, but people with more experience are often given higher level goals and expected to set their own direction. True, but even those positions don't involve the same level of self-direction that being your own boss does. Sure, but the housekeeping list is pretty well understood by now, so there's an entire industry of blogs to help people get into domestic labor by breaking it up into simple lists of tasks Yes, but that's people sharing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | The breadwinner gapActually, it still is. At least it was several years ago when that plane had to do an emergency landing on the Hudson River in New York. Everyone got out fine, but women and children were evacuated first. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 11:16 PM |
| 1 | "Homeless father of five can't find shelter that takes men with children." Ah, that sweet, sweet male privilege!While I do think that applying privilege to any particular individual is wrong, it can still be accurate to a category of people in a very specific sense. Then the term should be applied only to specific phenomenon, not to entire demographics. This is why I can't stand the term "privilege" and intersectional feminism in general; it professes to be targeting instances of inequality and oppression, but in reality, it's just a framework establishing a system that oppresses people into inequality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 04:48 PM |
| 3 | So, what's your views on societies like these?I have to admit, I didn't watch more than the fist two minutes the video, because I can't stand Broadly's commentary. However, if you're referring to the phenomenon of societies that enforce FGM or the micro-society of these women forming an all-female village to protect themselves from it, then I will say I obviously disapprove of FGM, but think forming an all-female society is a bit of an over-reaction. Reason being, FGM tends to be enforced primarily by women in these societies. How does an a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 04:43 PM |
| 1 | The breadwinner gapOh, you meant to type "non-routine." Got it. Thanks. I do agree that it is men's responsability to stop sacrificing their own health for money, but I believe it is a complex issue. Yes, there are societal pressures encouraging men to do this, but they're not so bad that we're effectively forced into doing so. A better example would be the maritime law of "women and children first." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 04:16 PM |
| 1 | The breadwinner gapnonrutinary cognitive tasks. I'm not sure what you mean by this phrase (sp?). Can you elaborate? As for the song: cool. Not my type of music, although I'll probably refer it to one of my roommates who likes sailor shanties. Yes, it does document men's sacrifices in history, and I do appreciate that, but IMO, men's continued sacrifices in those veins are entirely men's fault. We need to simply stop doing the shittiest jobs of society, and leave society with no alternative but to demand men and wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/19 07:54 AM |
| 3 | Ragebait scam happening now on 4chan and reddit theaters 'single males' policyWell, the warning the post is trying to impart is kind of useless without showing people what it is they're not supposed to fall for. OP or someone else should post a stable link to the image. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/19 04:31 AM |
| 7 | Ragebait scam happening now on 4chan and reddit theaters 'single males' policyYour 4Chan link leads to a 404 error. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/19 03:07 AM |
| 2 | Actor Chris O'Dowd claims the #MeToo movement is "great for everyone" - as men have "coasted in power" for too long and now won't feel the pressure to be "aggressive" or hide their feelingsI wonder how many men this guy knows who have trouble expressing their feelings and feel pressure to be aggressive and macho. So many of these male feminists that buy into the whole "toxic masculinity" crap seem to be buying into the idea that these traditional male stereotypes are still as prevalent and influential as they were in the 1950's and that every guy except them and their "woke" mates are these brutish, stoic apes who weren't raised in the same period of history as them. The whole "to… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/19 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Women's Group Asks the Supreme Court to Discriminate Against Transgender MenThe article sort of misrepresents feminist opinions on this one. The case is about an M-to-F transgender person who worked at a funeral home and was fired after she came out to her boss and began transitioning. Most feminists are probably in favor of the law protecting trans people against this sort of discrimination, but it's the TERFs who are strongly opposing it. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/19 02:30 AM |
| 2 | The breadwinner gapI do believe it is strange the concept that interpersonal skills are lesser payes than analytical ones. It's not that strange when you consider the fact that analytical skills are usually ones that require education to learn/master, whereas interpersonal skills can often be mastered from life experiences themselves. As such, interpersonal skills are simply in greater average supply than analytical ones. In a socialist economy, jobs specializing in interpersonal skills might have greater pay, but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 10:01 PM |
| 1 | French council fined for having too many female managersyou’ll meet tons of sexist men there The only women I’ve heard claim that are feminists who don’t work in tech. I’m highly skeptical it’s as bad as they say, and if feminists want to make false claims, well...there’s nothing we can do to stop them. And if tech companies want to protect their reputation by hiring lots of under-qualified women, well, we can’t stop them either. But they’ll pay for it in the end, and so will women, unfortunately. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 07:35 PM |
| 1 | French council fined for having too many female managersWomen not being in the field doesn’t mean it’s “one of the worst sectors for women.” If there is rampant sexual harassment and such, then that would explain such a claim, but I don’t know that there is. My understanding from knowing several people in tech is that it’s nowhere near the “old boys’ club” that industries like banking are/were. Any industry with a large gender imbalance is going to have issues with the culture not being a great fit for the under-represented gender, but that’s a far c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 04:00 PM |
| 1 | The breadwinner gapWe agree that parental leave is important, I just meant that—even with it—I wouldn’t expect a 50/50 split in parenting time and/or domestic labor, and so the earning gap wouldn’t necessarily disappear as a result. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 03:56 PM |
| 0 | The breadwinner gapNo, one is a legally enforced mandate and the other is a consequence of having a family. Social relationships come with obligations and men have certain roles we tend to be expected to play in society. So do women. Those roles aren’t oppressive in and of themselves; it’s how they’re enforced in society that can become oppressive. I wouldn’t call basic social pressure a form of oppression though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 03:49 PM |
| 0 | The breadwinner gapWomen have a choice, men do not. Yes, we do, there's just some social pressure involved. There's still social pressure on women to have kids, but that doesn't mean they can't choose otherwise. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 01:39 PM |
| 1 | The breadwinner gapMen are "choosing" because men have systematically oppressed into being breadwinners I think that makes about as much sense as saying women have been systematically oppressed into being primary caretakers. There are biological factors in play here as well; it's not as simple as societal roles, and even when you take into account those roles, "oppression" is a very loaded word that I wouldn't throw around so lightly. The ways in which men have been conscripted against their will to fight in armie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 01:33 PM |
| 1 | French council fined for having too many female managersWe'll see. I can easily see the French government caving to political pressure to apply the law in a sexist manner. This is the country that has effectively banned paternity testing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 12:23 PM |
| 0 | "A Tale of Two Dogs" or, "Why male violence is mostly the doing of nurture, female violence is mostly the doing of nature."Alright, well, continue participating or don't. I don't care to argue with you anymore about this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 05:05 AM |
| 2 | The breadwinner gapYeah, unfortunately, I have to agree. There's a...reality for lack of a better word...in gender norms that I think decades of fighting against them has blinded the Left to, which the Right clings to too much, but also appreciates more. But I think there's a more central aspect to the problem: equality of outcome vs. equality of opportunity. The latter is really the main thing to be working towards, and the former may matter in some arenas, but in most it just doesn't all that much. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 04:39 AM |
| 2 | The breadwinner gapI've thought about this a lot over the past couple years, and I just don't think a prescription of a 50/50 split is a reasonable thing to expect, much less demand. People are going to make their own decisions, and it may well be that, on average, women choose to do more of the domestic work, while men choose to do more of the professional work. Giving people greater freedom to choose is always a good thing, but I'm a tad bit skeptical that some totally equal distribution will result from it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 04:24 AM |
| 3 | The breadwinner gapI disagree that it's as simple as you say. Women elect to do more work at home most of the time. They choose to be the primary caregiver, to take time off from work to raise the kids, to have a greater work-life balance. For whatever reason, men choose to work more. It's not like people are being forced into these roles. Yes, there are social pressures, but there's also a lot of free choice. I don't think the solutions to these problems are that we need to make everything equal. I think the solu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 04:21 AM |
| 0 | "A Tale of Two Dogs" or, "Why male violence is mostly the doing of nurture, female violence is mostly the doing of nature."Jesus Christ, dude—no, it's not a threat. You just got done bitching about this sub and saying how it's not what you want it to be and you think it's going to become some feminist betrayal of the cause. Well...fine, I mean it doesn't sound like you like this place, I know you've clashed heads several times with both me and the creator of the sub, you just admitted that this post was a "test," presumably of people's responses to content you like—it doesn't sound like you like it here, so...why ke… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 04:12 AM |
| 0 | "A Tale of Two Dogs" or, "Why male violence is mostly the doing of nurture, female violence is mostly the doing of nature."Then feel free to not participate further. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/19 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsMaybe for some special cases, but you're throwing everyone as hopeless just because some people can't budget. I'm fine budgeting. Then maybe there should be some sort of test or something. i understand not every welfare recipient can't handle money. I just see a ton of people who can't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsHeh...you do not understand hood culture. Image is everything. You could be eating out of cans at home, but you'll drop half your check for a pair of Beats headphones, which you'll carry around with you even if you aren't listening to music. Last week, a patient of mine came in wearing nothing but faux Gucci, and whined about not being able to pay her power bill that month. We spent the entire session talking about money management, and not ten minutes later, when I was on my lunch break, I bump… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsI'll put it to you this way: the majority of my patients don't even know that they can browse the internet on the phones, much less look up answers to virtually any question they have. Most of them have a reading level worse than 9th grade and need help understanding the government forms they have to fill out for social services and such. These are not people with impaired intelligence or learning difficulties, they're just HS dropouts and old people. They're intimately familiar with Instagram a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Circumcision- evidence that it’s harmful...Thanks for the studies. That's certainly some interesting stuff that I'll have to keep in mind. However, politically speaking, I don't think the harm-done avenue is the best one for trying to convince people that MGM is wrong. Emotional appeals by showing them footage of circumcisions and making the argument that it violates boys' bodily autonomy rights seem like a much more effective avenue, because it dovetails with something people are already willing to defend in girls and people don't like … | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsI have a computer. The people I work with did not grow up with computers in the home and went to the poorest schools in their areas. They neither know how to use computers nor care to learn how (there's a computer class at the library across the street from my clinic). It's common for people to have phones here. But not to go in debts to get the latest ones. That's good. I hope you understand that I'm talking about subset of welfare recipients and not making generalizations about all of them. I'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 09:41 PM |
| 1 | French council fined for having too many female managersYeesh. Yeah, I've actually heard similar stories from other people in tech. What can I say, the business that over do this whole diversity hire crap are screwing themselves, so.... It's one thing when it's private company policy though and quite another when it involves government law. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 09:03 PM |
| -2 | Circumcision- evidence that it’s harmful...I don't doubt for a second that the experience of circumcision is traumatic for the child, but the brain is also incredibly elastic at that age, and significant lasting impact is obviously not present, because we'd see it. It isn't surprising the experience permanently alters the brain, but change =/= damage necessarily. However, that's a single case study, not a research study. None of this means I'm okay with circumcision, I just think the harm done is not the issue or hill to die on. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsI personally doubt that's super common amongst welfare people. This is a sign of someone who's dependent on always having the new stuff (insecurity, as in wanting to fit in so bad they can't do without), and deathly dependent on their phone. I can only speak for the population I work with (inner city people getting mental health treatment of some kind), but it's pretty common. And the reasons vary, but a lot of the time, they either lose or break their phones; they're not replacing them out of v… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Circumcision- evidence that it’s harmful...What I meant was that I'm not aware of any evidence that a successful circumcision has any long-term consequences. Obviously, it comes with risks and botched operations have serious consequences, but that's not what I was referring to. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 04:47 PM |
| 5 | Circumcision- evidence that it’s harmful...As far as I'm aware, there isn't solid evidence it's harmful in the long run. But that's also completely irrelevant, because mutilating a baby's genitals for no other reason than your religious beliefs or so they can look "normal" is fucking evil. End of story. I will never understand people who struggle with such a basic idea. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 04:24 PM |
| 250 | UK: Female teenager, 18, avoids jail after she tried to blackmail an older man she met online out of £3,000 by sending 'revenge porn' pictures to his horrified parents, partner and colleagues. OP: Without doubt a male would have got several years in prison.Since the UK thinks women aren’t as responsible for their actions as men when they commit crimes, maybe they also shouldn’t be trusted to vote in government elections? Or drive cars? Or be judges and lawyers? | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 04:06 PM |
| 0 | "A Tale of Two Dogs" or, "Why male violence is mostly the doing of nurture, female violence is mostly the doing of nature."If I read a piece arguing that men were violent by nature, I'd consider that demonizing men. If you disagree with my ruling here, feel free to appeal to /u/serpentineeyelash. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 12:25 PM |
| 5 | French council fined for having too many female managers“These laws were made to help women and now they’re being used to hurt us!” Have cake; eat it too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsPeople game the system like that and waste part of their benefits because they’ve been given arbitrary rules by government officials who have no idea what they need. Mrm...no, I disagree with that. The folks doing this are buying what they want, not what they need. Most of my patients have newer phones than mine, and they get a new one every six months or so. And yes, I’ve asked, they willingly get into debt, sacrificing their rent payment for their phone, and then apply for a debt-forgiveness p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsThat's a good point about UBI not necessarily being as susceptible to the dependency issue, because it's universal. I hadn't thought about that. From what I've seen, the dependency issue happened due to the normalization of receiving welfare in very impoverished communities. When the programs first started, there was a stigma attached to receiving money from the government, and that provided incentive for most people to either not accept it or work hard to stop needing it. Over time though—and I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 05:59 AM |
| 16 | French council fined for having too many female managersI find it appalling that people feel comfortable lauding female majorities like this, calling it a sign of "progress," rather than over-correction and misandrist discrimination. Equality under the law is such a simple concept, and yet the "wokest" people can't seem to wrap their minds around it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 04:12 AM |
| 160 | French council fined for having too many female managers | Here's some of that equality you wanted, feminists.Here's hoping the French government doesn't cave to political pressure and stands by equality, rather than female supremacy. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsI see. Yeah, while the problem of automation and male joblessness is a huge and looming issue, I'm not entirely sure UBI is the best policy for tackling it. Working in the community mental health field has made me realize that the "culture of dependency" Republicans talk about is actually a very real thing that liberals tend to minimize and/or pretend doesn't exist. In my experience, not only does it exist, it's very prevalent in poor urban neighborhoods. While I am for creating social safety ne… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 04:03 AM |
| 2 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?Oh, yeah, no, not at all. No worries. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 03:45 AM |
| 3 | Andrew Yang talks about the effect of automation on majority men jobs and mass shootingsAs I said previously on this sub, I'm a bit torn about Andrew Yang as a candidate I'm willing to vote for. He talks a better game than any of the other candidates when it comes to men's issues (as in, at all), but no men's issues are listed on his website and he's got stuff like the "wage gap" on there too. I've thought about trying to attend one of his events and asking him, but I pretty much straight-up don't trust politicians to give me an honest answer, so that wouldn't really do much good. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 03:44 AM |
| 3 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?Because when you said you found my description of court system sickening, my first thought was how laughably inadequate that description is compared to the reality I see in my office every week. I'm sorry it seems immature to you, but I assure you I have more than enough respect for my patients, their pain, and this topic. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 03:39 AM |
| 6 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?LOL, try sitting across a desk from a father who can't stop bawling, because he just missed his baby girl's 4th birthday, hasn't seen her in close to a year, and his lawyer is telling him he's got slim odds of seeing her again within another. And my job is to try to keep this guy from killing himself, when his depression is one of the reasons cited by the judge for denying him custody. Meanwhile, mom is actual crack whore who has merely been sternly told to get chemical dependency treatment. Yea… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 03:30 AM |
| 5 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?I'm a therapist. I've counseled a good number of men who've been utterly shafted by the family court system and seen how courts will give children to mothers who are demonstrably abusive, emotionally and physically, when the father was not. The behavioral bars for men and women are nowhere near equal in family courts; mothers have to do some really heinous shit to lose custody and fathers can lose it from a single unfounded allegation or simply by default. I've treated plenty of women in family … | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 03:22 AM |
| 7 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?My experience (professional) has left me with a very different impression. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 03:01 AM |
| 7 | What’s worse in your opinion, a man having to pay child support for a child that’s not biologically his or a Father not being able to see his child because it’s not biologically his?The system is set up in a way to favor what is in the child’s best interest despite how unfair it may be to the father. No, the system is set up to favor the mother's best interests and most of the child's, but having an involved father is not generally treated as something a child needs. To answer your question though, obviously being unable to see a child you raised and love is worth than having to pay for one you don't care about. As strongly as empathize with men having to pay CS for kids th… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 02:39 AM |
| – | "A Tale of Two Dogs" or, "Why male violence is mostly the doing of nurture, female violence is mostly the doing of nature."Removing this for demonizing women. We don't like it when feminists argue that men are violent by nature; no sense making the opposite argument. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/19 12:57 AM |
| 1 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.How you frame it is. Facts aren't sexist, but when you mention them in the context of saying we need to "work against the miltarism amongst men," you're using them to make sexist arguments. I'm not going to keep debating this with you. If you really can't grasp this concept, I suggest you not participate here, because I will delete future sexist comments from you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/19 10:28 PM |
| 2 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.Women are violent too and men are peace-loving. You're making a gendered argument about something that is not gender-specific, and making sexist generalizations. Again, not appropriate talk for a forum that is supportive of men. Either get your head in the right space or don't participate here. This is your final warning. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/19 10:02 PM |
| 1 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.Nah, you come on a male advocacy forum and start talking about how women would rule the world better than men, and then you tell me to "take it easy?" I see you making further sexist statements here and I'm gonna delete your comments and ask /r/serpentineeyelash to ban you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/19 09:44 PM |
| 1 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.Did you just come here to get into a pissing contest? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/19 09:31 PM |
| 2 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.A recent study showed that women are voted for with the same frequency as men in the U.S., when they run, it’s just that women don’t run very much. Sounds like toxic femininity to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The wealth gap: 51% - 60% of all wealth belongs to womenMy dude, do you think these outlets have never heard of the word "own"? If they meant own, they'd say own, but they don't. This isn't an argument, and I'm not convinced by it. The stark difference between the 60% "control" statistic and the much higher "spending" statistics are good evidence that they track different things. That there are synonym-like words for "control" is not a refutation that it's what they meant. Here's from 2010, where men have more money. And the 51% statistic comes from … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 11:29 PM |
| 3 | Sign the petition: Ban Routine Infant Circumcision (RIC/MGM) In The U.S.A. NowIt shouldn't be a part of the Jewish identity (btw, I was raised Jewish myself). | /r/MensRights | 29/08/19 10:24 PM |
| 1 | The wealth gap: 51% - 60% of all wealth belongs to womenThe wording on that article, again, is about "control." Yes, control of personal wealth, meaning ownership of money. That can come from earning said money, inheriting it, getting it in alimony, whatever. It would be mind-boggling if women had more money than men in the US considering how much more likely they are to be in poverty. Much more likely to be in poverty? Not really. This article and this article indicate there's around a 5% gap. Then consider that men make up around 60% of homeless pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 10:23 PM |
| 5 | The wealth gap: 51% - 60% of all wealth belongs to womenNo, sources say that in the U.S., women now control 51% of personal wealth. Your 40% statistic is about global wealth. I can't find the actual source of the 60% statistic, but it does say on the girlpowermarketing.com link: Women control more than 60% of all personal wealth in the U.S. (Source: Federal Reserve, MassMutual Financial Group, BusinessWeek, Gallup) That's not about spending decisions (that statistic is actually much higher). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 02:45 AM |
| 7 | Shower thought. This place is being successfully killed off.Four posts in the last two days. That ain't good. Those last two days were Wednesday and Tuesday. Reddit itself dies down during the middle of the work week. Don't panic. Two days worth of data is insignificant in the life of a subreddit. No, not all linked articles can be BOTH MRA and Left wing, as such articles are rare. Many of them will have to be one or the other. I think there's plenty of overlap and/or lack of conflict between MRA views and Leftist views. I also wouldn't remove a pro-MRA … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSNo, I'm saying we as a society have decided that taxpayer money should be used to help the destitute, regardless of whether or not their destitution is a result of their own mistakes, and that this falls within that sensibility. This is where I would agree with you that "the child shouldn't suffer," I just hold the woman who chooses to have a child she can't afford accountable, rather than the man who simply never consented to the fetus he helped create being turned into a child. The taxpayer mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 12:41 AM |
| 3 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSThey don't need to. That could be avoided in either of two ways: 1.) The government pays for the child. 2.) Women accept the responsibility of their choice and stop giving birth to children they can't afford. You merely think children will necessarily suffer, because you can't wrap your head around the notion that it isn't men's responsibility to pay for women's reproductive choices. By the same logic, one could argue that the fault really lies with women for having children they can't pay for, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSNo, the problem is you keep saying the man creates a child by accidentally impregnating a woman, but that the woman only aborts a fetus when she gets pregnant accidentally. Again, you're employing a double-standard. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSNo, I'm not pretending they're the same, I'm simply asserting that men should have the right to back out of paying CS if they didn't want the fetus they created to become a child. That was the woman's decision; ergo, it's her responsibility. If she decides to abort, there's no child, and both she and the guy are spared their resulting burdens. However, if she decides to have the kid, she freely chooses to accept her burden, while the guy is forced into his. That's wrong IMO, and when we can alte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/19 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSThey give dads a lot of obstacles to overcome, and then we as a group get a bad wrap. I think it's tougher than most people realize. My neighbor is a police officer who works long hours. So of course his wife cheated with some lawyer, then because he works all of the time he loses custody and has to pay child support. Meanwhile they are building a $400,000 house. And they say men kill themselves because they don't express their emotions. This dude is walking around with a gun 24/7 with that leve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/19 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSFigures. You have my sincere sympathies, dude. I don't know what I'd do in that situation. You can't even necessarily feel safe treating her poorly or cutting off contact once the kid(s) turn 18, for fear they might hold it against you. Do you have any idea how you're going to handle that in the future? sorry to keep asking you questions about a painful topic. If you don't want to keep humoring me with responses, I totally understand. Our cultural mores about this stuff are so fucked up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/19 12:38 PM |
| 11 | Man ordered to pay ex wife despite her bigamy chargesWow. That's some next-level hypergamy. The woman sounds like she might be a serial divorcer/alimony collector. That should be looked into and she should probably by sued blind and forced to do prison time (if there's a relevant statute to charge her with, idk). That's fucked up. Just more evidence of how biased divorce courts are against men. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/19 05:24 AM |
| 7 | UK: 'Narcissist' mother who drowned her two toddler twins in bath could face more time behind bars as Attorney General will review 10-year sentence after husband branded it 'disgusting'As much as I’m sympathetic to people suffering from severe depression, I don’t consider it an excuse for more lenient sentencing in cases like this. She should be sentenced to 25 years to life for each child, and at a bare minimum serve 40 years. Such behavior is inexcusable, as was the judge’s sentence of 10 years. This is the UK though, where there are different sentencing guidelines (and thus justice systems) for men and women. Judicially imposed misandry is the new normal over there. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/19 04:40 AM |
| 4 | Projared, falsely accused, but finally is able to set things straightI hope this guy sues his ex into destitution. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/19 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Crosspost from MensRights -- "Shower thought. The excuse for excluding women from the draft was that they weren't "allowed" into combat..."I think it's a little more complicated than a shower thought can encapsulate. Women not being "allowed" in armies (at particularly in front-line roles) goes all the way back to our nomadic days on the plains in Africa. It's rooted in biology and as old as the human race, if not much older. Only women can bear children, and one man can get multiple women pregnant. When increasing your population size is one of your primary goals as a society, women have far greater societal value than men. This r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/19 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSFucking hell, man. I'm sorry. Is there any sanity in your kid's mother? Could you convince her to refund some/all of it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 10:20 PM |
| 3 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSIf you're paying for half of their needs already and doing half of the nurturing care, what rationale is there for you be paying CS? Have you tried to challenge this in family court? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 09:35 PM |
| 5 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.I never said pulling names out of a hat would be a good idea. And I didn't accuse you of saying it would be, just challenged your sexist assertion that women on average would make better political leaders than men. And I'm not sure more education even produces a better legislator, whereas empathy does. That's pretty ignorant IMO. More education is always a good thing. Empathy is good, yes, but so is charismatic leadership, which men are better at on average than women. I think you're getting you… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 07:51 PM |
| 7 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.I understand your point, but I think you're actually muddying waters here between non-policy traits that are directly relevant to a politician's job and secondary heuristics based on demographic variables that—while they might have some vague legitimacy to them—form the basis of prejudice. In short, I think you're treading on a very slippery slope, and I think it crucially important we not set the foundations of our voting decisions there. Again, by the same logic, men should not vote for women,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 06:29 PM |
| 8 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.Those are bad grounds then. You shouldn't use secondary heuristics to make claims about who should and shouldn't govern the population. Whites on average tend to be more educated than blacks; ergo, a white government would be better than a black government, no? These are very bad foundations on which to base an argument. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSI'm not sure about financial abortion What makes you unsure about it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 05:13 PM |
| 8 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.The idea that women in politics better represent women in the population than men. The idea makes a certain amount of rational sense, but voters should ultimately be basing their votes on politicians' actual policy positions, not second-hand heuristics, like gender. Do you really want people voting based on which candidates look like them? That seems like the perfect way to give identity politics rocket boosters. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 05:09 PM |
| 11 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.a hat full of women would be preferable to a hat full of men On what grounds do you make this assertion? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 05:04 PM |
| 3 | TIME publishes article encouraging readers to vote based on gender.I honestly don't think they can tell the difference anymore. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSAll of that might feel logical, but it's not. No, it is logical, actually, and I just explained the logic. You didn't actually respond to my point though, which was that what gets accidentally created is a fetus, not a child. You're right that it's not fair, but it's the situation created by biology. The same can be said to women. By having sex, you risk getting pregnant, and if you do, tough shit. But we don't do that. We use medical technology to give women a choice, under the rationale that t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 05:00 PM |
| 6 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSMen who accidentally impregnate women haven't created a baby; the woman creates a baby by deciding to carry the fetus to term. That's the logic that supports women's right to abort in the first place: that they're not killing a child. There's a gross double-standard in your logic if you think women should be allowed to abort, and they're not child murderers for doing so, but men aren't allowed to opt out, because that's abandoning a child they chose to take the risk of having. If you think men s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 12:40 PM |
| 7 | Chappelle on Abortion & LPSTo be frank, I'm not 100% sure he was being serious, but appreciate that he said it nonetheless. Even as a joke, it puts the thought in people's minds, and a few will think, "hey, that's...kinda true, actually." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/19 09:44 AM |
| 5 | Dave Chappelle Legal AbortionGod, do I love that man. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/19 06:28 AM |
| 20 | "Please! I'm a woman! Stop!!!"Amen. Too many posts on this sub just feature women getting punished for bad behavior, but don't actually feature any attempt by them to use the pussy pass (playing the female card to get out of being punished for their bad behavior). | /r/PussyPassDenied | 27/08/19 05:41 AM |
| 3 | UK: Sexual harassment and victim-blaming women: Why male 'empathy' could be key OP: They are not looking for the truth, they want all women regardless of evidence to be believed.So, this isn't quite a "men's rights" issue, but at my job last year, they had some people come in and give a presentation about microaggressions. After defining them, the presenter explained that the way to resolve them was to have empathy for the person accusing the other of making said microaggression, and insist the accused apologize. I raised my hand and asked about whether or not the accused's intentions mattered, and the answer was a flat-out ''no." I clarified, "so we're only supposed to… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/19 03:18 AM |
| 9 | what is the "boys crisis" ?An old, but good article. I think it's important we acknowledge these issues as instances of systemic bias against boys, rather than cast them as consequences of "toxic masculinity," which is just an exercise in victim-blaming. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 10:34 PM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?But risk-taking, violence, dominance, etc., are not some sort of perverted self-contempt, not in my view. Risk-taking is not inherently negative, violence is not statistically associated with being male, and dominance sounds like a negative form of assertiveness, which is not inherently negative, and the negative form isn't associated with being male either. You're right that feminists list these as examples of toxic masculinity, but I strongly feel this is misguided, not based in fact, and indi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Feminism Is In Trouble - CommentaryI agree the "in trouble" part is a bit misleading. I mainly posted it, because I think it's a very interesting analysis of modern feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 06:23 PM |
| 3 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.It does matter, because it's about remaining open-minded, which always matters. It has nothing to do with the merits of particular policies. Democrats have bad policies too on some matters. The point is that everyone's opinions are going to differ. You're insisting that I accept your bias and agree with you that we have no need to listen to conservatives or Republicans, because their policies are just that bad, but I won't, because I was raised with that bias as a kid, and once I got free of it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 06:21 PM |
| 2 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.Fine, but none of this negates the point I was making. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 01:24 PM |
| 1 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.I didn't say every side had good points; I said you'll never know if you're not listening. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 01:16 PM |
| 1 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.being closed-minded about things is not inherently wrong. I am closed minded about rape being bad. Nothing you can say will change my mind. Yes, actually, it is, because it means you're not open to taking in new information. It may be that there's no information out there that would change your mind about rape, but if you're not listening, you'll never truly know. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 12:46 PM |
| 1 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.This isn't a both-sides issue. All issues have multiple sides. I would encourage you to not get into the business of saying some don't, because that goes down the very slippery slope of thinking you have the objectivity to tell which ones do and which don't. For the record, I agree with you on both the ones you mentioned, but I also feel incredibly strongly that male circumcision is a moral evil, and could say "there are no two sides to it." I imagine a lot of people would say the same thing abo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 12:40 PM |
| 3 | The Equal Rights Amendment - why and how we should support itI don't like her and I'm from her city. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 06:26 AM |
| 1 | The Equal Rights Amendment - why and how we should support itJust in case you don't know what he's talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment#Hayden_rider_and_protective_labor_legislation | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 06:25 AM |
| 9 | Feedback sticky: what would you like to see from this sub? are you happy with the way things are going? if not. why?I concur with this for the most part. I think a good line to draw would be memes. Memes make up some of the least valuable content on /r/mensrights, and they tend to be posted by and enjoyed by the worst types in that community. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 06:06 AM |
| 7 | Not showing your feelings is 'toxic masculinity'? Well, it's more complicated than that..."Men need to talk about their feelings; not talking about them is what makes you toxic!" Man talks about his feelings. "Stop adding to my emotional labor!" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/19 01:03 AM |
| 8 | Not showing your feelings is 'toxic masculinity'? Well, it's more complicated than that...Essentially, the message is, "men, rather than shoot up schools, talk to someone about your problems, but when you do, make sure you don't complain about any issues of systemic discrimination in society against you, because that's all misogynist bupkis." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Vice article documents the legal battle in the U.S. over banning all forms of FGM, even the "ritual nick" version, while completely glossing over the hypocrisy of allowing that, while permitting the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removal of MGM.who is to say it does more harm than good? When it comes to cutting up your child's genitals, I think taking in the perspective of the child who can't even speak is pretty fundamental. Banning religion, IMO, is super duper bad. I'm not talking about banning religions here. I do disagree with you that a completely atheist society is impossible, but that's not relevant to this discussion. FWIW I do not plan on having children. If I were to adopt, hypothetically, for the sake of "would I do this wi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 08:32 PM |
| 1 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.I don't know of a patch of history where women weren't allowed to work. I'm assuming you meant paid work and maybe from the 50s to the 70s but that was pretty limited in time and came with some benefits. Being allowed to work, but not allowing to be paid for it kind of defeats the entire purpose of work when it comes to providing for yourself and your family, doesn't it? I'm not sure why you think women weren't barred from traditionally male jobs in the past, but here's a list of countries that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Vice article documents the legal battle in the U.S. over banning all forms of FGM, even the "ritual nick" version, while completely glossing over the hypocrisy of allowing that, while permitting the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removal of MGM.It is convenient that the baby doesn't remember, so the social disruption and (lasting) personal trauma IMO is minimal. But these are just reasons why it's less bad, not why it's particularly good. I mean, the number of cosmetic surgical operations you could perform on a child that wouldn't have permanent negative consequences is practically infinite. What if some new religious group decides cutting off the ear lobes of their girls is a sign of their covenant with God? Are we going to allow that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Upholding old gender roles while claiming to tear them downI probably shouldn't have said "I would love for there to be....," as I simply meant I found the hypothetical scenario entertaining in that it would prove a point I hold to be true. The reason I included the "magical sperm bank" in it is simply because you can't have an all-female society without some method of egg fertilization. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.I mean...I was hoping you'd actually cite some text, but I suppose I'll have to read the document. For what it's worth, that sounds very contrary to what I learned in my history classes. I will look into it though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 07:58 PM |
| 5 | What's with the fixation on feminism instead of an actual discussion of male issues?constantly preaching fear of men. This and the actions they've taken that stem from that view are the reasons I maintain my stance that you can't fight for men without mentioning those things. I would prefer it if men's rights could be fought for without taking issue with feminism, but feminists have made it impossible. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Upholding old gender roles while claiming to tear them downLOL, I've had many similar experiences with feminists myself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 07:50 PM |
| 1 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.If you feel I'm lacking in information, by all means, provide the information. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 07:44 PM |
| 1 | What's with the fixation on feminism instead of an actual discussion of male issues?Very well. I won't use it for the purposes of describing the sub in the future. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Upholding old gender roles while claiming to tear them downbut all the time I've had this talk it all boils down to men protecting women, the weak and others, which is very traditional for so-called progressives. They just jump through a few more hoops to get there. I think this is found in what feminists don't say about toxic masculinity, rather than what they do say. They fail to recognize that the same evolutionary traits that underpin male aggressiveness when it's harmful underpin those when it's beneficial to women. I would love for there to be a s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 03:19 PM |
| 1 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.You had to be a land owner to vote. I'm not saying that class structures didn't play into things as well. Obviously they did, and that's something feminists don't acknowledge enough, but I think it's undeniable male peasants in that era had a greater degree of control over their lives and the peasant women who lived with them than the reverse. In theory. Not in practice. Men had the final word...which had to agree with their wife. Uh, no, they didn't have to agree with their wives. https://en.re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 03:09 PM |
| 6 | What's with the fixation on feminism instead of an actual discussion of male issues?Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but I'm not willing to give up on the label just yet. I think MRAs have become unfairly maligned by the media, even in acknowledgment of the conservative/alt-right elements in it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 02:59 PM |
| 3 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Part II That being said, I'm certainly not saying that feminism is a completely pure and noble thing either. Feminists have (and continue to) work to thwart groups they see as threatening their power. That behavior is not unique to feminists but is shared by most movements and organizations that gain power. It's a human foible. I'm glad you can see that, but in the context of what came before in your comment, I would encourage you to see the MRM in the same critically-sympathetic light. MRAs are… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 02:55 PM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Part I (Yeah, we've now entered into the part of this thread that exceeds the 10,000-character comment limit.) I admit it's been almost entirely online and not that much in dedicated MRA forums. However, here's two different users' responses I've gotten so far in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates: Without context, it's hard to judge, but I will say this: if you expect to see no radicalized, insensitive, even abusive commentary on a sub that is highly-critical/opposed to an ideology, I think you're expect… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 02:55 PM |
| 5 | What's with the fixation on feminism instead of an actual discussion of male issues?When I said "this is an MRA sub," what I was referring to was the fact that this is a sub in which advocacy of men's rights is allowed alongside criticism of feminism. The contrast is menslib, where that is not the case. Is this an oversimplification? Yes. But it is one that has existed for decades. Like it or not, history has divided men's movements along this line. I'm not saying it should stay that way, but my comment reflects it. One thing that I found refreshing about the sub is that it all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 01:28 PM |
| 2 | What's with the fixation on feminism instead of an actual discussion of male issues?EDIT: This comment was deleted, because /u/serpentineeyelash weighed in with clarification above. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 11:15 AM |
| 1 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.So? It wasn't that long ago that it was the official position of the Democrats too. And, to play "conservative's advocate" here, it's the official position of the Democrats that women should be allowed to kill their unborn children. My point is that both sides employ spin in their conception of politics, and so anyone trying to make a truly informed decision needs to account for spin on both sides. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 10:47 AM |
| 0 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.How about you also describe how life sucked for men back then as well as in the developing world currently? What their different gender role in society meant for them. You're missing my point. I'm very aware of the downsides of being male, even under a patriarchal system. But you can still vote and participate in government. You are a part of the gender that rules society, and can therefore change how things work if you want. And where class hierarchies prevented most men from enjoying those rig… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 10:44 AM |
| 2 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.The only difference I have is I don't think women had it worse than men back then. Not being able to vote or work if you had a husband is a pretty glaring disparity in rights, dude. Not being able to hold political office, not having a right to education, etc. These aren't small things, man. And they're still true in some parts of the world. You think men don't have it better in Saudi Arabia? In most African nations? Gee, how long do you guys hold a grudge anyway? That, I see as being due to fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 04:07 AM |
| 3 | Vice article documents the legal battle in the U.S. over banning all forms of FGM, even the "ritual nick" version, while completely glossing over the hypocrisy of allowing that, while permitting the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removal of MGM.The Jewish male tradition is to do it when the person is still a baby and won't remeber the event, and I believe there is the option to do it with anaesthsia. That's essentially saying, "because the infant brain is plastic enough to recover from the event, there's nothing wrong with inflicting that amount of pain on an infant." I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. There are countless societies wherein baby boys are not circumcised, and they're fine too. There are no major health benefits, and thus no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 03:51 AM |
| 2 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.I guess in their framing of the matter, men can't have need of sorry because they are the dominant group. Do we have a rich persons health officer? A white persons health officer? While I do think white people have some issues of discrimination today, they're mainly just in response to overzealous POC campaigns that take things too far. We don't face any inherent discrimination. Not so when it comes to men. Gender is more complicated, because male and female privileges are far more interactive a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Vice article documents the legal battle in the U.S. over banning all forms of FGM, even the "ritual nick" version, while completely glossing over the hypocrisy of allowing that, while permitting the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removal of MGM.I was both raised Jewish and circumcised myself. And, yeah, I'm fine. So, I get that end of it. However, just because I don't remember it, doesn't mean I wasn't traumatized as an infant because of it. It's purely the extreme elasticity of the infant brain that protected me from any lasting damage. But that doesn't make it an okay thing to do to a child. I bear my parents no grudge for what they did to me, but I do bear them a grudge for not admitting it was wrong now that I've confronted them ab… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 03:34 AM |
| 2 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyI really don't think this is how burden of proof works here. Times changed. This isn't a time- or culture-based concept to me. What reason do you have for thinking these strategies wouldn't work? Just because feminism is popular now? The notion that women were chattel was popular once too, and feminists were able to change that. Changing cultural ideas takes a lot of effort and time. Look, I totally get the feeling of despair some MRAs have in the face of the Feminist Machine. I succumb to it to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 02:00 AM |
| 0 | Royal Oak police stop Black man for 'looking suspiciously' at white womanNo, it doesn't convince me, because that can be explained by copy-catting. Where's the evidence of the majority of the shootings in the last 2 years being directly related to Trump? People have differences of opinion. If you can't handle that, it's you who shouldn't be out in public without adult assistance. Keep your tone civil, please. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 01:41 AM |
| 1 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyWhy do you think they will? Men's and women's movements are quite different when it comes to what obstacles we are opposing. I think the default position should be to assume they would, unless there's reason to think otherwise, meaning the burden of proof is on those denying it. Again, these are just standard activism strategies. A lot of them have been used by pretty much every activist movement in recent history. I'm not really sure why you're so skeptical of them, tbh. As for academia, that d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/19 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Mass shootings a male violence problemhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK356346/ Particularly relevant text: Gender In both inpatient (Amore 2008, Chang 2004, Cheung 1996) (N = 634) and community (Hodgins 2011, UK700) (N = 1031) settings, the evidence was inconclusive as to whether male gender was associated with the risk of violence. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/riskprotectivefactors.html Note how gender isn't even listed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 11:16 PM |
| 3 | Vice article documents the legal battle in the U.S. over banning all forms of FGM, even the "ritual nick" version, while completely glossing over the hypocrisy of allowing that, while permitting the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removal of MGM.Honestly, I have no position on male circumcision. I wouldn't stop someone advocating against. But I think it's a subjective issue. It sounds like you simply don't feel infants should have rights that protect their genitals from cosmetic surgery by their parents. If that's the case, and you're fine with male circumcision, what is a similar procedure you would feel comfortable being performed on baby girls? To me, children absolutely should have rights that protect them from cosmetic surgery on n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 11:13 PM |
| 1 | The concept of "internalized misogyny" is a complete black box and not falsifiable.To the extent that I'm against labels that tell a person what the motivations of their own thoughts are, I'd agree it's problematic. However, the mere idea that a person can internalize concepts that are harmful to themselves or a demographic group that they belong to is clearly a thing that happens. So, it's not so much that I find the term untrue as I find it useless in debate. I would, however, prefer feminists use the term "internalized misandry," rather than "toxic masculinity." I sometimes… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 11:06 PM |
| 10 | The men's officer at West England university- an example of why feminism is not enough and we need an independent men's movement.So a frequent matter of debate and derision is the MRM's 'stance' towards feminism- why are we 'anti-feminist'? What does it mean to say we are 'anti-feminist'? To me, this is a misunderstanding of what the MRM thinks. IMO, we are not against the idea of feminism in principle; valid women's issues of course deserve a women's movement. The idea of equality for women is an idea we of course support. This is why I prefer the term "feminist-critical," rather than anti-feminist. The prefix "anti-" im… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Mass shootings a male violence problemAnd isn't being male the single biggest predictor of violence? Not even remotely, and it's frankly pathetic that you think that. Do even the most basic research into aggression and violence, and you'll understand that abuse and genetics play far larger roles than gender or race. You need to dispel yourself of this misandrist belief of a link between masculinity and violence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Mass shootings a male violence problemThat's like saying, because blacks in the U.S. commit a disproportionately high amount of violent crime, their race is a relevant factor. You're treading on a very slippery slope here. That the majority of people who commit a crime are from Group X doesn't mean the majority of people from Group X commit that crime. The former suggests that gender is a moderating variable, but not a primary one. Saying gender should be considered a primary factor in mass shootings is a pretty misandrist reduction… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:33 PM |
| 2 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyThen why do you think those things won't work for men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:25 PM |
| 5 | Mass shootings a male violence problemNo, it's not. It's pointing out that the men who do these things are a tiny minority of men, and thus factors other than their gender are almost certainly more relevant. Also, I would disagree that "whataboutism" is "pathetic" or even just invalid. EDIT: In fact, I'll go further than that and say that accusations of "whataboutism" are largely just a silencing tactic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:23 PM |
| 2 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyThe OP already does. EDIT: But, to add a few more: organizing support groups, doing presentations in school systems and businesses, encouraging solidarity amongst those belonging to your demographic, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:18 PM |
| 2 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyWhy not? Some of those tactics are just good activism, and have been copied by other movements already. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:13 PM |
| 3 | What is the salient difference between this sub, r/mensrights, and r/menslib?Mensrights leans more conservative Not sure I quite agree that that. It does have a higher proportion of conservative participation than Reddit in general IMO, but discussions of political topics like abortion there have not given me the sense that conservatives are in the majority. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | What we can learn from feminism to advance men's advocacyWhat isn't? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 08:08 PM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?But maybe I haven't met enough "real" MRA's, so to speak. I actually meant where have you been finding these MRAs and how many have you actually met? It's pretty clear you have bad experiences, but I was curious as to how you came to have them, how many, etc. For example, if you're a feminist and you go into /r/mensrights and declare toxic masculinity a thing and challenge them to prove you wrong, you're stirring an already hot pot, and you're just baiting an angry response. Believe me, I know p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 07:30 PM |
| 1 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Just saying "emotional suffering" converted directly to dollars seems wrong, and I think there should be a different remedy. That can get vague, I admit, but I think the courts try to keep it limited to things like the costs of therapy and such. Also, relocating, if your local reputation has become so tarnished that you need to move, divorce, etc—all these things can result in real financial costs from "non-financial" damage to reputation. Also maybe it is neater to sue the school for failing to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Royal Oak police stop Black man for 'looking suspiciously' at white womanPulse. New Zealand. Dylan Roof. None of these had to do with Trump, yet they happened. This pattern has been going on for some time now. Trump isn't the cause. People give him far too much credit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/19 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Royal Oak police stop Black man for 'looking suspiciously' at white womanYeah, mass shootings are another thing. I don't quite know why they're increasing in frequency, but I'm actually pretty skeptical it's because of Trump. As for racism in general, no, I think shit like racist policing has been going on undisturbed this entire time, it's just that recent political trends have made pointing it out vogue again. Which is good, except for the notion that it could just be a fad, and will pass again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Royal Oak police stop Black man for 'looking suspiciously' at white womanWhen racism and misandry interact. That being said, I will point out that the video shows nothing of what happened before the police arrived. That's important to remember. Don't jump to conclusions based on incomplete evidence. Also, let's all just note that this is Royal Oak, MI: a town of 57k people, 90% white, 4% black. And, while I'm not necessarily defending the cops in this video, let's all just appreciate that no one got hurt, and that cops have a duty to respond to calls. Some cops are r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Royal Oak police stop Black man for 'looking suspiciously' at white womanAgain? Dude, it never went away. Trump simply gave media outlets reason to cover it again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 04:58 AM |
| 4 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?I feel the need to point out there that, while it's clear one can look at your list and see the virtues in all of those points, it's not those virtues that MRAs ever really take issue with. It's the rhetoric and solutions feminists push that inspire the angry response you struggle to understand. For the sake of completeness, I'll review your list. Safe birth control, including male birth control The only criticism I've seen MRAs make on this topic is how feminists don't actually put any real eff… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 01:25 AM |
| 8 | An old diatribe from 4chan on "social justice types". (slightly edited) I want to see what this sub thinks of this.This is an example of how one side's criticism of the other can both reflect reality and not. All of what is being argued here is true in many instances of social justice politics. However, there are also plenty of examples of social justice folks who don't fit these descriptions; the problem is that they don't criticize and expel the ones who do. The same can be seen in leftist criticisms of the Right. "You want to deny gays the right to marry! You hold your right to have fun at shooting ranges… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 12:29 AM |
| 1 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?If you're really so inept at English that you can't see how your statement would rationally lead a listener to think you were referring to all of what feminism has done, past and present, then I think you need to go back to grammar school. But truthfully, I don't think your grasp of it is that bad; I think you're just being intellectually dishonest. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/19 12:03 AM |
| 7 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?I was expecting you to double down with a typical "men are the only ones with legitimate grievances, so screw you, feminist libtard!" attitude, but you pleasantly surprised me. Before posting that reply, I thought to myself "foolish me, why am I engaging in conversation with people who only want to hate and never want to listen?", but I'm glad I was wrong. Out of curiosity, what is your experience with MRAs? What informs these assumptions on your part? Take a term like toxic masculinity. So many… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 11:49 PM |
| 1 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Not that I side with one or the other side of this (haven't looked it up at the moment) They had sex a few times, she accused him of raping her, the university and the cops investigated and found no evidence to support her accusations, so the cases were dropped. She decided to make an "art piece" about it by carrying a mattress around with her for an entire semester, which publicized the incident to national levels, and of course the vast majority of the public sympathized with her rather than h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Philadelphia and VW ads banned over gender rulesI personally think this type of thing is insanity Pretty much. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I'm pretty confident it's going to result in utter ruin, but hey—communism is still going strong in China, so maybe some countries are just more amenable to authoritarian conformity than others. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Ke$ha admitted in a 2012 Rolling Stone interview that she forced all the men who came on to her bus to drop their trousers so she could emasculate them by taking pictures of their junk. Rolling Stone had no criticism for this.Based on past #metoo outrage, it's all #metoo worthy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 10:06 PM |
| 0 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Perhaps the context your quote was taken from made that clear, but the quote itself does not. If that's what you meant, you could have just explained it. I was in no way dishonest in my last comment, and it's actually pretty intellectually dishonest of you to pretend so. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Ke$ha admitted in a 2012 Rolling Stone interview that she forced all the men who came on to her bus to drop their trousers so she could emasculate them by taking pictures of their junk. Rolling Stone had no criticism for this.The only thing that matters is whether or not they were freely consenting to the practice, and when a major celebrity (and one you're a huge fan of) is pressuring you to do something you're uncomfortable with, plenty of people will go along with it, even though they shouldn't have to. Besides, she explicitly said she did it to emasculate them, which is an indefensibly repugnant motivation to begin with. As such, I don't think the distinction matters as much as you say. It's just vile, predatory … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Philadelphia and VW ads banned over gender rulesI think this law is an example of a government trying to legislate culture and I predict it will end very badly. Cultural stereotypes are everywhere, and what's more, they are always evolving—you'll never eradicate all of them, as new ones will just rise up in their place, and the next generation will object to ones the preceding one finds innocuous. We've already seen a bit of how much sociopolitical strife is caused by inter-generational debates over what should and shouldn't be considered off… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 07:49 AM |
| 11 | I can't see feminists talking about that (link in the below)In "the below." ...I have no fucking idea. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 07:10 AM |
| 3 | Ke$ha admitted in a 2012 Rolling Stone interview that she forced all the men who came on to her bus to drop their trousers so she could emasculate them by taking pictures of their junk. Rolling Stone had no criticism for this.Come to think of it, isn't Ke$ha the one who sued her producer or someone for rape? She doesn't have a leg to stand on if she routinely sexually harasses men on her tour bus. Yeah, she did. Can't quite remember what the outcome was, legally speaking, but I remember feeling on the fence about what the truth was myself. IIRC it was her accusations against his denial with no real evidence to back up either side. I think her mom corroborated her claims publicly too. Another recent addition to the li… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 06:59 AM |
| 3 | Historical accomplishments of feminism that are now blamed on "The Patriarchy™"Yeah, I understand, I just think that conflating sentencing changes that are tied to other issues and sub-movements with the broader efforts by feminists to widen the sentencing gap disregards the fact that things like the Duluth Model were largely about getting DV recognized and punished as a crime, when it was still a "public secret" at the time. Duluth absolutely should be criticized for it's neglect of male victims, but the recent movement to lessen only female prison sentences on the whole … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 04:18 AM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?This part: mostly it does evil It asserts that most of what feminism does is evil, which suggests that all the good feminism has done for women constitutes a minority of its impact on the world. That's crazy. Feminism has indisputably made the world a better place on average, it's just that it also indisputably has done harm to men. But the harm it's done to men doesn't even remotely compare to the benefits it's had for women, like giving them the vote and right to work. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 04:13 AM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?To deny this overwhelming tendency of demonization/vilification of feminists among MRA's would be incredibly dishonest. I know you can say feminists do it too, but we can all be more mature than "it's ok because they do it too". Fair enough, but—to borrow a feminist phrase—isn't this an example of "punching up vs. punching down?" I'll agree with you that it's not right when anyone does it, and that arguments like the one I just made are intentionally missing the point, but I think the greater hy… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Historical accomplishments of feminism that are now blamed on "The Patriarchy™"I've seen it many times on social media: someone asks what feminists are doing to fight sexism against men, like men not being allowed to do feminine things. The feminists immediately counter that this is really sexism against women, because it means femininity is devalued while masculinity is so valued it's acceptable for everyone. This is presented as the natural state of Patriarchy™, which completely ignores the fact that in pre-feminist times, male and female gender roles were more equally e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 01:49 AM |
| 1 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Hopefully not because you need to avail yourself of said legal statute? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 01:25 AM |
| 13 | An obvious legal loophole: Banning female circumcision is gender discrimination unless male circumcision is banned too.I, for one, completely agree with the Michigan judge's ruling that the law cannot disallow the "ritual nick" variety of FGM, while allowing the far worse variety of MGM, on the grounds of religious discrimination. It should have been a stepping stone to banning both. Sadly, it wasn't. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Historical accomplishments of feminism that are now blamed on "The Patriarchy™"But if you point to that discrepancy - hey look at this bridge that lets women do masculine things, why don't we build a similar one that lets men do feminine things? Feminists will rush to tell you, in accordance with the feminist playbook, that the bridge that lets women do masculine things is a manifestation of The Patriarchy™! Because "naturally" The Patriarchy™ thinks masculine things are great so "naturally" women are allowed to do masculine things. And the lack of a bridge to let men do f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/19 01:11 AM |
| 17 | An obvious legal loophole: Banning female circumcision is gender discrimination unless male circumcision is banned too.I agree that both should be banned, but the article mentions that the "nick" is done with a pin, which is in line with other descriptions of it I've read. It really is just a nick. No lasting damage. Clearly MGM is worse than that particular variety of FGM. And that's the point of hypocrisy—the standard argument that FGM is far worse than MGM fails when you're talking about the "ritual nick" variety, which is largely what was being practiced in these cases. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 12:54 AM |
| 32 | An obvious legal loophole: Banning female circumcision is gender discrimination unless male circumcision is banned too.Gotta love how Vice casually glosses over the totally apparent hypocrisy of banning the "ritual nick" form of FGM, while allowing the far more dangerous and harmful foreskin-removing MGM. Never let it be said that Vice isn't a completely biased, misandrist rag. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 12:02 AM |
| 5 | Ke$ha admitted in a 2012 Rolling Stone interview that she forced all the men who came on to her bus to drop their trousers so she could emasculate them by taking pictures of their junk. Rolling Stone had no criticism for this.Relevant section of the interview for those who don't want to skim the article for it: You just wrote a memoir. Is there anything the lawyers made you take out of it? Yeah, I had to leave out the photos I collected while I was on tour for the past 18 months. Whenever a man came onto my bus, he had to drop trou, and I took a Polaroid of him, just to emasculate him and make sure he knew he was in the vagina jungle. That’s what I call my bus. Some of the guys were wearing man-panties — but even if… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 11:39 PM |
| 7 | Historical accomplishments of feminism that are now blamed on "The Patriarchy™"I agree with your analysis entirely when it comes to child custody, but I'm not so sure the other two fit your argument as well. Women wearing pants was arguably influenced by some activism by early feminists, but the trend kind of took off gradually from there on its own, without additional help from future feminists. However, even if we give feminists full credit for creating that social change, the fact that they didn't campaign to make dress-wearing normative for men really does make it a ho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 11:10 PM |
| 3 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."I don't know about terrorist organization, but a hate group perhaps. Although that's the purvue of the SPLC, so it's a lost cause. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Well firstly there's the whole question of whether "liberal" equals "leftist". Certainly in terms of economics, liberals are at most center-left. I've recently written some thoughts on this here: I admit I tend to use the terms interchangeably, because I'm not particularly educated about political ideologies and their histories, and thus just employ them in their colloquial usage. I simply meant the media outlets that are on the left side of the overall political divide (The NY Times, CNN, WaPo,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 10:31 PM |
| 2 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."For example Emma Sulkowicz AKA Mattress girl is a good example of an easy defamation case to win. Saw this after your edit. So, then why didn't Paul Nungesser sue her? I can't find any mention of a suit against her, just Columbia. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 06:55 AM |
| 3 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Really? I thought you had to prove financial harm in a civil suit. I mean, massive damage to your reputation can certainly result in financial harm of many types (divorce, therapy, etc), but don't you have to prove it actually did result in said financial harm in your suit? EDIT: Nevermind, just looked it up myself, and you're totally right. Good to know! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 06:46 AM |
| 12 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Meanwhile, everyone else can see that they're publicly declaring themselves against men's due process rights. Enough miss-steps like that, and just maybe the general public will begin to see them for what they are. Only if the general public becomes informed about it. That's why I chose to post about it, so that the echo chamber leaks and their misandrist positions hopefully come under public scrutiny. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 06:40 AM |
| 2 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."If you are falsely accused of rape, how else do you clear your name without suing the person who lied? /r/Sewblon pointed out that there's a difference between suing your university for implementing a biased investigation process against you and suing the student who reported you to them. In those cases, I agree that accusation isn't really what harmed you; the college's misandrist system is. However, you do have a point that spreading a false accusation on social media can have catastrophic eff… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 06:38 AM |
| 6 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Years ago on campus, I considered myself a feminist inasmuch as I believe in egalitarianism. But recently the mask has slipped as real pressures and narratives are being brought to bear that are both untrue, irrational, and detrimental to society as a whole. I'm in my late 30's, and I have to say...I was never really fooled by feminism's pretense that it was "just trying to win equal rights for women." It already had for the most part by the 90's, and yet it was still male-bashing; not as bad as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Wow, that certainly triggered you. LOL, grow the fuck up, man. If you can't have political disagreements with people over stuff like this and remain civil, you have no business telling other people they're acting like children. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 05:36 AM |
| 1 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."I mean only murdering unborn children is a REAL human right! As someone who doesn't want to be put on the hook for child support when a condom breaks or a BC pill fails, I'm pro-choice and pro-LPS. Women being able to have abortions helps men too, it's just incomplete without legal paternal surrender laws. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 05:25 AM |
| 6 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."That's a fair point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 05:08 AM |
| 8 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?But, of course, most people on both sides aren't very nuanced and just want their side to "win" and want to spew anger, like competing sports teams or something. We'll see if anyone responds to this by telling me how evil women and feminism are and how men are righteous victims in every way, and how rational and logical their own views are. You can make the points you did without the obvious baiting. You're on an MRA sub, and MRAs are critical of feminism. And feminists are famous for casting an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why India's Men's Rights Movement Is ThrivingI would argue that the main reason the MRM in India is thriving compared to ones in the West is because it got off on the ground floor with feminism in India. In Western nations, feminism was around for a long time before men organized and began trying to get their issues attended to, and by that point, feminism was pervasive and influential enough to use it's social power to suppress attention to them and brand them all misogynistic "backlashes." In India though, feminism doesn't have as much h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 04:43 AM |
| 7 | N.O.W. opposes accused male students suing their universities over alleged anti-male bias in campus Title IX hearings, labels them "just another way to bully survivors into being silent."Alright, for personal Twitter accounts, that makes sense. Thanks for approving the post in this instance. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 04:31 AM |
| 5 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?Eh...I think traditionalist values are a huge part of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 03:36 AM |
| 3 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?It definitely has in academia and on the Left. Not so much on the Right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 03:17 AM |
| 5 | What Type of Left-Winger are you?Please don’t mistake me for defending any part of feminism that you’ve criticized here. I completely agree with your assessment of domestic violence, rape, etc. And I make no apology for anything under the banner of feminism that isn’t egalitarian. <shrug> My point is that feminist misandry isn't limited to "fringe" feminist groups or radical feminism; it's been in mainstream feminist circles from the start and it continues to be. I accept that there are good feminists out there, and I have no p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 03:06 AM |
| 8 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?I actually think it started out admitting that it wasn't egalitarian in the sense that it was just a women's advocacy movement, and it's recent claims about being an egalitarian movement are it shifting into a lie. That, and I think it always took the view that "women are unequal because of men;" that pretty much was always there in one form or another, they were just a teensy bit more polite about it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 02:58 AM |
| 2 | What do people on this sub think about the fact that a lot of left-wing media outlets give platforms to blatant misandrists?That largely describes my experience as well, although I've since realized there were subtle versions of man-hating going on in mainstream feminism even back in the 70's and 80's. What definitely happened was that the overt man-hating of radical feminism became mainstream sometime around the turn of the century, and it's been getting worse ever since. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 02:55 AM |
| 3 | What Type of Left-Winger are you?The Duluth Model of domestic violence was Second Wave feminism, and it argues for a model of DV that argues it is a result of patriarchy, even though there's plenty of evidence (and was back then too) that women abuse men just as frequently as men abuse women. Mary Koss was a Second Wave feminist who claimed that men couldn't be raped by women, because "made to penetrate" isn't as bad as being penetrated. Her papers were lauded by feminists at the time and eventually influenced the CDC's data-ga… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 02:10 AM |
| 2 | What Type of Left-Winger are you?I don't really have a term for what kind of liberal I am, but I've described myself as "moderate liberal" in the past. Thing is, I actually support a lot of socialist ideas, but I'm very much against the ideas other liberal socialists seem to favor. For example, I'm for social welfare programs, but mainly for ones that provide material- and service-based assistance, not raw cash, so universal basic income is a bad idea IMO. I'm pro-choice, but also pro-LPS. I'm definitely not a Marxist, and the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 01:19 AM |
| 3 | What Type of Left-Winger are you?I also consider myself a feminist, inasmuch as feminism is consistent with egalitarianism. In general, I wouldn't consider feminism to be that egalitarian. It certainly claims to be, but there are so many examples of it not being the case, those claims seem little more than the result of people who identify as feminists viewing it through rose-colored glasses. Feminism's un-egalitarianism is in it's name, in it's conceptualization of domestic violence, in it's insistence in calling internalized … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/19 01:03 AM |
| 4 | As a white man trying to find my path in life, this was disheartening to come across.What do you expect out of people who subscribe to cancel culture? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/19 12:32 PM |
| 5 | I've long voted Greens, but how can I continue when they're doing shit like this?Write your politicians and tell them that you support a lot of what they fight for, but that you can’t/won’t support this misandrist bullshit, and if they go forward with it, it will cost them your vote. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/19 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Girlfriend rudely told me regardless if I’m in a child’s life or not, I’m paying child support. Insanely fucked off. She broke up with me.Dodged a major bullet, dude. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/19 12:41 AM |
| 7 | Men should not have a say in the abortion process, says feministHer body, her choice. His wallet, his choice. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/19 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Manspreading ideology is 'just a load of rubbish'Good on that woman on the right for recognizing how fucked up feminism has become and disassociating herself with it. The news anchor responds dismissively to her, and laments that more important issues feminists try to draw attention to get ignored when people focus on bullshit like manspreading, but she completely ignores the fact that the story they're covering on the segment is about how a feminist got a fucking award for her sexist art project. It's not the media that's distracting people f… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/19 06:26 PM |
| 4 | I had no idea that this was a gender issue. It’s disgusting to even attempt to work gender into this debate.You know who ISN'T building roads in this country? Women. | /r/MensRights | 08/08/19 05:04 PM |
| 38 | State Places Boy in Man's Care After Pregnant Mom Allegedly ODs – Forces Him to Pay Child SupportWhat are you talking about? He's being forced to pay child support so that the money can go to the mothers' rehabilitation, so that she can get better, so that the child can be put back in her care, where it will clearly fare better, since women are automatically better nurturers than men. /s | /r/MensRights | 08/08/19 05:36 AM |
| 9 | What is wrong with this quote by Hitchens? List everything that is wrong.Hitchens was referring to improverished third-world countries wherein women still didn't have their basic human rights, and he was absolutely correct: putting the other half of your able-bodied population to work in your economy definitely does give it a huge boost. That's just common sense. Not every call for women's rights is anathema to men's. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/19 08:45 PM |
| 2 | This woman needs to be locked upHe was yelling at her at the time, so it was in self-defense, no charges, no time. /s | /r/MensRights | 05/08/19 08:40 PM |
| 3 | What ideology emboldened a woman to leave her baby boy in a boiling hot car while she did shots in a bar. The same one that allowed her to smile at her mugshot.Where is the link to feminism here? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/19 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Mother who murdered her two children because they got in the way of her sex life, given a life sentence with a minimum term of 32 years.I guess I just disagree with their sentencing guidelines then. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/08/19 08:55 PM |
| 9 | Mother who murdered her two children because they got in the way of her sex life, given a life sentence with a minimum term of 32 years.Double murder of children and she's getting something less than mandatory life in prison? Pussy pass very much still in effect. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/08/19 08:37 PM |
| 1 | On why men are so demonizedGotcha, no sources, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | He Helped Expose The Absurdity Of Gender Studies And Was Investigated For Misconduct By His UniversityI think we're going to have to simply agree to disagree, even though you seem incapable of that. I'm done. Bye. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | He Helped Expose The Absurdity Of Gender Studies And Was Investigated For Misconduct By His UniversityIt's fine to disagree, but this isn't really something that's up for debate. That's just you saying "you can't disagree with me." But I do. I don't think the regulations cover this at all, and I don't think them being forced to undergo training and be banned from research is fair. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 02:29 AM |
| 1 | On why men are so demonizedUhm...okaaaaay? Do you have any sources for how he's done bad shit? Not even cults are inherently bad. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 02:08 AM |
| 1 | He Helped Expose The Absurdity Of Gender Studies And Was Investigated For Misconduct By His UniversityNo, it's really not. Sorry, but I think you're applying rules to situations they were not designed for, and as such, aren't applicable. I get what you're saying, I just disagree with you. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 01:24 AM |
| 1 | On why men are so demonizedI've "heard" people rolling their eyes about this guy before, but I neither know much about him or people's objections to him to know what they're talking about. Can you clue me in? | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 12:28 AM |
| 1 | He Helped Expose The Absurdity Of Gender Studies And Was Investigated For Misconduct By His Universitythe human subjects are the journal’s reviewers/editors that select articles, and their responses to stimuli were the subject of the project. Oh, please, man, that’s weaksauce right there. The IRB standards for conducting research on human subjects are intended to protect the unwitting public from researchers who fail to consider their wellbeing in their research. To suggest that these editors’ wellbeing was harmed by this project in the same ways that an actual research subject could be is a ver… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/19 12:03 AM |
| 1 | On why men are so demonizedIt's because we make up the majority of the positions of power (CEOs, politicians), making us an easy scapegoat for people on the bottom. This is just how you organize movements—identifying a enemy group for your constituency to funnel their rage toward is a great way to motivate and unify said constituency. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 11:29 PM |
| 4 | Feminist Women VS. Reich Wing Women MemeThis is why I'm glad /r/mensrights bans low-effort meme-posts like this. Yeah, there's a point being made here, but all the nuance is lost in this format. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/19 11:18 PM |
| 6 | Man in sexless marriage buys a sex doll, wife comes to reddit for advice on how to get him convicted on frivolous sex crimeYay, but I wanted to see the bullshittery in action. :-( EDIT: Nevermind, a commenter in the thread documented the cunt's posts: https://old.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/cieyn5/update_my_husband_got_a_sex_doll/ev4ubbk/ | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 11:09 PM |
| 1 | He Helped Expose The Absurdity Of Gender Studies And Was Investigated For Misconduct By His UniversityHe was conducting research using human subjects. Can you cite a source for this? I thought they just wrote papers and used data sets from other studies. If they actually violated ethics regulations, then yeah, you've got a point. However, I don't think it's reasonable to presume academic politics had nothing to do with this process. He hurt the feelz of some very powerful people in academia, and now he's feeling their retribution. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Banned from r/MGTOW for saying that we shouldn’t hate womenI'm sick of being called an incel. At this rate, I think r/mgtow is proud of the label. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 10:46 PM |
| 12 | Banned from r/MGTOW for saying that we shouldn’t hate womenThe one truism of Reddit is that if you post in any sub long enough, you'll eventually be banned by a mod who got his feelings hurt. Truer words were never spoken. Mods can be some of the most butt-hurty, banhammer-happy, authoritarian cry-babies on Reddit. I got banned from r/news for saying it wasn't racist to say some black people make life worse for other black people. I got banned from r/atheism for simply asking if there were any conservatives on the sub (I'm a liberal atheist, btw). I got… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/19 10:44 PM |
| 14 | On why men are so demonizedCute, but that’s not why. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/19 09:18 PM |
| 3 | When and what caused you realize that women are privilegedI can’t pinpoint it. It’s something I’ve always believed, which means I realized it somewhere during my childhood. I’ve always thought there were ways in which girls had it better and ways in which boys did. It’s why feminist claims to the contrary never made any sense to me, and I always rejected them. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/19 09:11 PM |
| 3 | I've not encountered the modern day feminist until yesterday.I’ve yet to meet the feminist who understands the contradiction between AA/quotas and equality of opportunity. I’ve explained it to some and they still think they’re compatible. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/19 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?I agree, but...I guess I'm just not convinced Obama being in office or Trump being there now has had any real impact on how sympathetic women are to men's issues or the MRM. Even with the tradcon element, I don't think the MRM has particularly associated with support for Trump. The only example I can think of that would link us to him is Betsy DeVos listening to us that one time, and that was over a very sympathetic issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/19 10:45 AM |
| 0 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?I don’t think of Biden as a warmonger. He seems much more likely to play it safe with Iran, for example, while Trump is actively stoking tensions. A war seems much more likely with Trump than anyone else to me. I am surprised a conservative likes Bernie more than Biden though. An establishment Democrat tends to be a more moderate Democrat; Bernie’s policies have now been adopted by the establishment, despite them thinking he was crazy in 2016. Why do prefer the farther-left Bernie to the more mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/19 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?I agree with this part: Republicans wage gender revenge wars on women and the tide turns against us. But I’m not entirely convinced of this one: Democrats make things good for women and then women start seeing where gender revenge feminism has gone too far, and we gain allies and momentum. I think men’s rights has a case to make on its own, and we can’t rely on moderate feminists to win our battles for us. Even they won’t take action on the prison sentencing gap, the bias in family courts, or fa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/19 12:41 AM |
| 2 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?This is precisely my problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/19 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?Curious: why do you prefer Trump over Biden, but Bernie over both? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/19 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Facebook group- Men were a mistake.Wow, it's almost like FB has a SJW bias.... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/19 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Facebook group- Men were a mistake.I thought they banned hate groups? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/19 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Facebook group- Men were a mistake.Report it for being a hate group. See what happens. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/19 12:34 PM |
| 3 | Facebook group- Men were a mistake.I'd say pointing out the double standard (would a joke group whose central joke was "women are trash lol" be allowed?) is a priority. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/19 12:34 PM |
| 14 | University finds male student guilty of rape by "flattery", then changes its own definitions to uphold the verdictSo, now flirting with and complimenting someone negates their ability to consent? This shit is insane. This is precisely the slippery slope I called bullshit on when I first learned about affirmative consent and taking all responsibility off of the more passive party to explicitly deny consent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/19 12:43 PM |
| 0 | Dr. Warren Farrell interviews Presidential Candidates Andrew Yang, Bill De Blasio, and Beto O'RourkeUBI - will pay primarily women at the cost of primarily women UBI will go to both men and women, and is therefore not a gendered issue. lbgtq rights - really just means anti-white and anti-male Plenty of LBTGQ men out there, and those issues have nothing to do with race. If anything, LGBTQ rights are a men's issue. gun grabber - most gun owners are men Plenty of women shoot, and plenty of men are for tighter control of guns. Gun rights are not a gendered issue. student loan bailouts - will benef… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 04:48 PM |
| 0 | Dr. Warren Farrell interviews Presidential Candidates Andrew Yang, Bill De Blasio, and Beto O'RourkeYeah, sorry, those are just the arguments of a conservative, trying to co-opt the MRM for their political side. Not buying it. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Dr. Warren Farrell interviews Presidential Candidates Andrew Yang, Bill De Blasio, and Beto O'RourkeWhich ones, specifically? I mean, yeah, the equal pay stuff could potentially be bad, depending on which specific policies he wants to implement, but which others? | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 01:32 PM |
| 1 | His freeloading wife doesn't want to discipline her daughter (his step-daughter). He therefore wishes to call of the marriage. Somehow he is the asshole.that's not mischaracterizing the post Saying he wants to merely get a divorce, when he actually wants to kick the wife out of the home and keep the daughter for himself? Yeah, that's mischaracterizing the post. any ESH posts are calling the OP an asshole, it's also calling the mother an asshole That's a pretty important distinction to mention in a post about a subreddit that has multiple designations for who the asshole is. and you are mischaracterizing the post: the OP says he would allow the s… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 01:31 PM |
| 1 | His freeloading wife doesn't want to discipline her daughter (his step-daughter). He therefore wishes to call of the marriage. Somehow he is the asshole.You're misrepresenting the post. He doesn't want to just get a divorce, he wants to kick his stepdaughter's mother out of the house and raise the girl on his own. That's way different. And, most of the top responses are labeling the post "ESH" for "Everybody Sucks Here," meaning they're saying both he and his wife are being unreasonable. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Who are you guys going to vote for in 2020?Creating this subreddit is my attempt to help make it possible to talk about male issues on the left. Well, thank you for doing so! Let me know if you need any help moderating. Yeah, it seems a trend in the entire Western World these days that the liberal side of politics is becoming increasingly feminist and buying into misandrist feminist rhetoric and policy. Very depressing.... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/19 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Is Spiked magazine really against identity politics?No publication is going to get it right on every issue. I try to take what we can get out of them. Even the NYT has the odd pro-men article, even if they all fit neatly within it's feminist bent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/19 08:28 AM |
| 3 | The Rape Jokes We Still Laugh At | NYT - OpinionYeah, I'm aware. It's a shame how blindly governments around the world are embracing feminism and putting women first on issues that affect men as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/19 08:26 AM |
| 4 | The Rape Jokes We Still Laugh At | NYT - OpinionThe American prison system does need a serious overhaul, but men's issues are relatively ignored on a global scale. Your own government has been pretty active of late at combating domestic violence against women, but has largely ignored male victims. More attention to men and their issues needs to be paid overall. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/19 08:09 AM |
| 5 | Dr. Warren Farrell interviews Presidential Candidates Andrew Yang, Bill De Blasio, and Beto O'RourkeI like what I see, but when I go to his website, men's/boy's issues isn't even on his very long list of policies. He's got stuff on there about equal pay too, which I'd be willing to look past if he came out more strongly in support of men's issues. I'm thinking about writing his campaign a letter, because I'm so disgusted by the Democrats embrace of feminist causes of late that I'm currently not planning on voting for anyone in 2020. Yeah, yeah, not voting at all isn't that popular, and used to… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 07:10 AM |
| 5 | The Rape Jokes We Still Laugh At | NYT - OpinionObama made federal funding for colleges dependent on doing something about sexual assault on college campuses. I don't agree with that move, since I think schools lack any motivation to actually provide justice, and they've just gone from sweeping allegations under the rug to auto-convicting anyone accused of it (especially men). It's something the police should handle. However, prisons are different. They can and almost assuredly should install cameras in pretty much every room the prisoners ha… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 06:46 AM |
| 13 | Interesting video from a bisexual girls view. We could use more perspectiveAlways nice to see women having empathy for men's issues. Good post, OP. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 06:30 AM |
| 27 | Interesting video from a bisexual girls view. We could use more perspectiveAlso, women who make this argument assume men don't invest any money on stuff to prepare for a date. Hair gel, cologne, nice clothes...the only thing we're spared is makeup, and that's honestly not a huge deal. I suspect the majority of men would be fine with a girl not wearing makeup on dates. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 06:28 AM |
| 5 | Opinion: If the Dalai Lama is a sexist, the #MeToo mafia has gone too farHoly shit, was that fucking well-spoken! /r/murderedbywords | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 06:11 AM |
| 2 | I wonder what would happen if the roles were reversed.Yeah, I noticed that. No one lifted a finger until he pushed her in self-defense. Everyone's fine with a guy bleeding from the head and a woman swinging away at him, but as soon as she might get hurt, it's a dire situation that requires intervention. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 06:03 AM |
| 44 | Here is my son proving he is a victim of Parental AlienationGet a lawyer and take her to family court. And see if there's anything you can do legally about the police refusing to charge your ex with making a false report. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 05:46 AM |
| 6 | Edeka slammed for bashing fathers in mother's day ad. #EdekaBoykott briefly trended.Glad the public reaction was the correct one at least. We still have a long way to go before sexism against men becomes taboo enough that shit like this doesn't happen. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/19 03:33 AM |
| 5 | How women react to getting a generous tip. Don't even try to please them.Well...I actually really hate tipping culture, to be honest. Tips should be a completely optional way of rewarding exceptional service, not something culturally expected for simply doing your job. Restaurant servers should simply be paid a living wage, and I'm completely fine with that causing the price of eating out to go up. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 04:49 PM |
| 1 | This pic sums up 4th wave feminism kind of good.Here's some real feminism for you: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html?utm_term=.505d762e648a | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 04:03 PM |
| 30 | How women react to getting a generous tip. Don't even try to please them.This has nothing to do with men's rights. And being upset about an 8% tip is something any server would do, not just a female one. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Please help add the definition 'forced to penatrate' to the FBI definition of rapeI'm aware of this. I don't understand why the data exclude male victims of female perpetrators in this fashion, as it seems to go against the intent the FBI stated in their email. This is why I want the definition to explicitly include "made to penetrate" cases. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 02:12 PM |
| 5 | Scholarships being a good exampleAren't affirmative action and quota systems specifically for equal opportunity? For example, requiring a higher amount of female applicants because it's easier for men to get the job compared to women without it? So they're therefore giving women more opportunity (to make up for the supposed gap in opportunity)? The argument for AA and quotas in theory is that it erodes social prejudices against those demographics, which in theory have been negatively affecting their ability to join them. Howeve… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/19 12:22 AM |
| 14 | Scholarships being a good example*equal outcome Remember, the name of the game is not equal opportunity; feminists want equal outcomes, regardless of opportunity. That's why they favor affirmative action and quota systems. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/19 09:54 PM |
| 5 | Please help add the definition 'forced to penatrate' to the FBI definition of rapeI seem to recall someone on this sub posting some years ago an email they'd sent to the FBI, asking about whether or not "made to penetrate" was included, and getting a response back affirming that it was, even if not explicitly stated. Still, I think they should make it clear by adding it to the actual definition. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/19 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Please help add the definition 'forced to penatrate' to the FBI definition of rapeSigned and shared. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/19 04:30 PM |
| 6 | Women can be just as badWouldn't surprise me. If you find the source again, be sure to post it. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/19 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Does gender equality mean equality for men? - Presentation by Prof. Guy Madison from Umeå University, SwedenVery interesting lecture, thanks for posting! It's interesting to see that women score so much higher in Neuroticism scores than men, I wasn't expecting that. Also, I was aware of how gender differences actually increase in more egalitarian, richer countries, but it was interesting to see how that data support the increased resources theory as opposed to the social role theory favored by feminists. Fascinating stuff! And I was very pleased to see the presenter conclude that the quota systems bei… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/19 01:02 AM |
| 8 | Women can be just as badUgh. Sorry, dude. Glad your fiance was there for you though. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 11:55 PM |
| 10 | Women can be just as badThat's fucked up. Just curious, OP, why didn't you call the police and have her arrested for assault? | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 11:50 PM |
| 10 | Women get payed less, men have to pay more.This has actually been made illegal in some states, but predictably, only out of concern for women having to pay more, not men: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/women-gender-auto-insurance-discrimination-california_b_5c619a11e4b08b7433368d82 | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 11:08 PM |
| 9 | Oxford student gets away with attempted murder because she has a vaginaPhil ain't the smartest ruskie on the planet, I'm guessing.... | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 09:11 PM |
| 1 | I cannot stand this. So many people find these types of memes hilarious, but I just see it as another way it’s been made normalized for men to have no choice but to put up with being treated like shit. If roles were reversed, we’d be seen as the emotionally abusive partner.I try not to get worked up over casual sexism in comedy. Jokes are jokes, and if we get offended over every one that makes light of men or a men's issue, we're no better than the feminists who screech about misogynistic humor. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/19 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Drunken African Model Smacked Flight Attendant, Hurled Racial Slurs, Obscenities On Australia-LAX Flight- sentenced to 3 years of federal probation and 100 hours of community serviceDidn't say you were. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 19/07/19 04:46 PM |
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