Surprisingly decent article from The Guardian about the ways in which society discriminates against men, from all the way back in 2012.

mtcapri · 2020-01-15T21:43:48+00:00

It focuses on the actual problem: the ways in which society discriminates against men, rather than couching it all in terms of "toxic masculinity."

I only have a problem with one part:

"The biggest challenge is … tackling the male tendency to suffer in silence," says Tim Samuels, presenter of Radio 5's Men's Hour. "We're getting better at admitting to our weaknesses or seeking help, but there's still such a long way to go."

You acknowledge that there are all these institutional, systemic biases against men and boys in our society, and then say the main problem is that men/boys aren't asking for help? Like, it's on us to ask for help, even though society punishes us when we ask for help? This is a transparent victim-blaming approach, and it's a major reason I find "toxic masculinity" to be so offensive as an approach to men's issues.

Still, other than this, the article does a good job of keeping the focus on the societal discrimination and saying that our society needs to change how it treats men, rather than bemoaning how men need to change themselves so they're not so toxic.

thereslcjg2000 · 2020-01-15T22:07:45+00:00

Sadly, it's hard for me to imagine such an article appearing in a publication like that post Brexit and Trump.

Regardless, it's an excellent article. Very level headed and respectful toward men's struggles.

TheLonelyBull · 2020-01-16T00:02:30+00:00

The Guardian used to be decent so it's not surprising.

Title	Surprisingly decent article from The Guardian about the ways in which society discriminates against men, from all the way back in 2012.
Author	mtcapri
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Date	January 15, 2020 9:40 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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