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I think the girl has a point on some degree. To be honest I have seen this in many societies.
I need you to bare with me, It was hard for me to grasp until I saw cycles begin when I have had already seen quite similar cycles begin and come into a conclusion.
When there is an oppressed group and that groups is being oppressed unfairly there will come a moment in which society will eventually say "Hey wait a minute, this ain't right".
The realization of oppression becomes clear but that doesn't mean it comes free of resentment. If I were bullied by someone in specific and then that person should ask for forgiveness I might say I do forgive that person, however the desire for retribution will probably never cease if nothing happens.
I will try to make a reference from thermodynamics so you can understand where some of the "feminist" stand and some of the "incel" stand as well. When you put two objects of the same material but at different temperatures in contact, they tend to try to reach the same temperature. However, it is not as simple as that, The object with the most temperature(energy) passes a bit more than it should to equate their temperatures. And it begins a smaller and smaller tidal wave until this energy fluctuation becomes imperceptible.
I need to you to grasp what I said on this physics example and try to see oppression as something holding a bowling ball at then edge of a half-pipe. When you let it hang loose it definitely won't stop in the middle.
Humanity has done terrible damage that some of us do not want to take care of "Why should I? I didn't made the law that women shouldn't vote" And I can see the idea where you are coming from. Among this tidal wave of pushing to feel powerful, there comes a mix of people who know what they want but can be a little bit confused on the basis and moral of it all, people who are simply angry at life and need somewhere to let it all out BUT there are also quite smart and centered women that fights for the rights and status quo someone is not getting just for the fact of being a woman. I've seen it countless times, in manufacturing enterprises where they don't give the position to a woman because she will need to handle men (So what? I think we have learn by now that a single woman can pretty much single handedly destroy someone's life)
We can talk about stupid people as well so you can have a better understand of why feminism and "meninism" are both needed.
Let's talk about man. Let's say we boil down the sum of all male population, an average of traditions, IQ, moral, strengths and weakness. Let's start by saying that the average person is stupid as fuck, that would leave more than half of males are just stupid. Now... extrapolate that to the female counterpart, the same applies.
The ideology of defending women's right is actually on point, but we are just coming out of it.. Boomers, there are still a LOT of boomers in position of powers within various corporations, there views, values and direction permeate down the ladder. I mean if I had a great job that was paying me a LOT of money and my boss believed in Satan I'd hail glory to the mighty devourer of worlds, because it is my life and you don't confront stupid people unless you are all in... because they are....
Any ideology, you can divide them all but the level of awareness and they will all have a 90% that is less aware than the 10%. You can not say Feminism is wrong because of some stupid people.
If being a men means something, it means that we do not back down in the face of demise, if we need to go that way, we go that way and push through, but being smart comes in handy.
If I hear a woman talking about how having a penis makes someone literally a retard because the blood flows and there is less bla bla. I would do the same if a random man in the streets wants me to join a cult, I'd smile and walk away slowly.
I really hope I can get a positive reply of you even if you do not agree with everything I said.
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Meninism is what is happening right here, what you are doing here by entering directly to denial. Look, We can agree men have ruled the world for the most part (Myriad of reasons why, and I do know not in all cultures, but in the vast majority).
Feminism wants to do the same, and maybe they'll accomplish it, maybe they won't, but it is part of a process that needs to be done, In that way both gender sides will KNOW that both can be great assholes and pain on their assess.
The thing is, some girls who are bullies hide behind the feminism, and like a regular bully, they prey on the weak (Or by today's standard they prey on the dumb).
World wide feminism is needed. There are still places in which women are treated as an exchange coin. Hell, there are is an important percentage in USA that are all out women haters.
You know the main post was a girl simply saying that people miscontrue what feminism is, Women and Men. Women write men hating books,So what... You know... you have to learn to differentiate between smart and stupid people, surround yourself by smart people and you won't have to deal with the stupid ones.
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Dismantle patriarchy = destroy the family and the social order so the state can get more power.
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