Men we are not making the most out of reddit. r/MensRights is great but if we want to enact change we should also be playing the long game. Women have been enacting change for years but only for their benefit. We're going to get them to now do it for our benefit without them knowing. Here's how it goes: we subtly undermine feminist reddit anonymously from the inside. A few comments here and there, using their language and their ideas but subtly manipulated. One of us might for example comment something like: "I find the best way to undermine the patriarchy and challenge gender roles is when I'm on a date I'll excuse myself to the bathroom and stop by the counter on the way, I'll slip them my card and ask them to charge the bill to me. It really screws with guys when the cheque comes out and I've already paid." (Thank me later men). Maybe someone else might anonymously slip in a reply: "Sometimes when my husband is over at his friends watching the footy I'll go and mow the lawn myself and act like it was just a normal thing to do. Later to really make sure it sticks in his mind I'll initiate sex and give him a night to remember. It just subtly screws with his whole idea about gender roles." The trick men is to start slow one or two comments here and there and slowly build it up. Maybe down the track we'll be convincing them that the best way to get "your boyfriend" onside to listening to your political ideas is by doing small acts so he starts paying more attention to "you". For example: "I started by buying my bf an extra playstation controller and slowly increased it to making a few lunches for him to take to work. Once I had his attention I could start sliding some ideas into his head." (Boys just nod and play along). Later we'll have them convinced that the best way to engage us is to: "I had a boyfriend who I found out had started listening to some of that Men's Rights crap but I wasn't going to waste an opportunity to convert him. I decided the best way to get him to listen to me was hear him out, sometimes I would even agree with what he was saying, then I knew I had his attention." Men if we play this right feminists will convince themselves that the most feminist actions they can take is the ones that convinced them of.