Toxic Masculinity (Part One) Jadehawks Blog - Anxious feminist appropriation attempts at their worst. She actually blames masculinity for male suicide.

pcarvious · 2010-12-23T20:09:14+00:00

That she explicitly states that masculinity is the opposite of feminine seems like a cop out of a definition to me. In my mind they aren't antonyms. They describe actions that are connected to a gender yes, but many of these actions can and will overlap with each other.

thetrollking · 2010-12-23T08:19:34+00:00

I especially found it funny/irritating how she links it to the green movement. Some things that her tiny female brain apparently didn't consider is how men need more protein to be the buff herculean men women gawk at. I guarantee the average football(American or European) player eats plenty of meat. Also, maybe the proporsions have more to do with metabolism? The commercials she talks about are mainly advertised to 'blue collar' types and if you have ever worked 8 hours straight to finish a physically demanding job on time then you sure as fuck don't want 'chick food' as your main daily meal.

This part really jumped out at me and pressed upon my rage button:

Now, what precisely is considered feminine (and therefore having its opposite considered masculine) is almost completely arbitrary, but it’s one hell of a long list. It starts at such relatively harmless things as peeing while sitting down, but it also includes things that have real consequences to men (hence the “hurts men, too” part), like the weird belief that going to the doctor is “girly” unless you’re bleeding to death (and even then, you’d probably get extra man-points if you just sew your wound shut with spiderwire), so men miss out on a lot of preventive care because it’s not manly, and they end up suffering health consequences. This goes double for mental health; men are still more likely than women to commit suicide, and toxic masculinity is a main reason for that.

WTF? In the medical ethics classes I have taken we looked at the four main types of bed side manner doctors used and when they used them. These are taught in medical schools and are used based on what type of patient you have. Two of the main types involve talking down to the patient. This is good if your dealing with someone like my grandma who has to be repeatedly told to take her meds. It doesn't work on men. Especially younger men who are trying to break out of authoritative mommy systems of control and become their own selfs. A better way for doctors to engage young men would be to use mechanical analogies to describe why certain medications work and need to be taken on time. Guys take things apart, even the guys who can't read beyond a 5th grade level and dropped out of HS fix cars or build something in a factory. But engineer or not, getting guys involved in preventative measures takes a different tact. One example I wrote about in a paper would be comparing the body to hunting and how important it is to keep rifles oiled. Or cars and to ask question about meds being analogous to not changing the oil.

Finally, I am sure that suicide most like totes be the fault of masculinity. Surely no woman could ever be involved with a man deciding to take his own life/s. I thought feminists were supposed to be against blaming the victim.

Quazz · 2010-12-23T11:10:13+00:00

I was waiting to see whether she'd blame Toxic femininity on Toxic masculinity and wasn't disappointed.

Too bad she doesn't realize that Toxic femininity is probably the cause for Toxic masculinity since the guys want to be as 'manly' as possible or they won't get any at all.

Most of it was bullshit, as expected. She makes assumptions and wrong deductions all over the place.

Title	Toxic Masculinity (Part One) Jadehawks Blog - Anxious feminist appropriation attempts at their worst. She actually blames masculinity for male suicide.
Author	thetrollking
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Comments	6
Date	December 23, 2010 8:10 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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