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Washington Post writes an article blaming masculinity for the Columbine shootings and many like it...the top comments are even worse.

allnall247

April 20, 2016
23 upvotes
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/04/20/damaged-masculinity-may-help-explain-columbine-and-other-mass-shootings/
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Title Washington Post writes an article blaming masculinity for the Columbine shootings and many like it...the top comments are even worse.
Author

allnall247

Upvotes 23
Comments 11
Date April 20, 2016 5:49 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4fokx1/washington_post_writes_an_article_blaming/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/washington-post-writes-an-article-blaming.951318
https://theredarchive.com/post/951318
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Comments

[–]allnall247[S] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A comment from a user: "ITS STRAIGHT MALES that accost, rape, murder, create wars and ponzi schemes......we need laws protecting us from STRAIGHT males, not the transgender person in the stall next to your wife. he literally doesn't even want his penis so there is ZERO chance he'll be the one hemming up your daughter in a stall."

[–]zen_affleck 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole trans woman hiding in the bathroom waiting to rape your daughter thing is playing on the general feminist created fear of men. It's weird to see the different windmills turning against each other with feminists demanding the safe space of their bathrooms but also demanding the trans people get rights. They have to accept that trans women do identify as women but also start off life as men. The dissonance is palpable.

[–]ZimbaZumba 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There is no well defined concept of Masculinity. This is sterotyping of the worst type and a bare faced misuse of language. Beware of bad faith framing.

Make a word up, or redefine an old one, then you create a thing that can discussed and attacked. These are worn out political tactics from the battle ground of language. This is all Orwellian and from the maunuals of how to create a totalitarianism.

FYI disaterous made up phrases include: War on Drugs, War on Terror, Rape Culture, Toxic Masculinty, Communist Menace, Zero Tolerance etc

[–]SnakesFromHell 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Assault Weapon.

[–]Leinadro 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Okay lets say for a moment this damaged masculinity is the cause of these shootings.

That fails to explain why out of the countless men that are in the same position as those shooters the VAST MAJORITY of men dont resort to such violence.

That means having your masculinity damaged cant be the sole culprit.

Personally I think its a case of males being expected to embrace violence. Thing is if these guys had joined the military no one would bat an eye at their violent ways. Or if they got into sports.

In short people dont have problem with such violent masculinity when it suits their needs but cry foul when it spills over and hurts other people. (This is also why when people hear about man being violent towards a woman they are up in arms but when an accused man is the victim of vigilante justice no one outside of the mrm cares.)

So in my mind 2 things to happen.

One we have to stop raising boys to embrace violence. Even though there are times when its useful its ultimately destructive.

Two when boys and men call for help, fucking help them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Three: Start telling girls that, in the future, if they want a sensitive man in touch with his feelings, then stop friendzoning those kinds who attempt to make a move. Or quit complaining about the lack of good men out there when you do.

Four: Teach girls never to disrespect and hit boys. Just because they're allowed to get high on "Grrl Power" doesn't give them the right to step all over them, no matter what their "Gender Studies Doctorate" teachers, white-knight fathers, man-hating mothers, and over correcting entertainment industry tells them.

Five: If a girl is bullying and assaulting a boy without reason, don't come to her aid when the boy stands up for himself. Let her take the licks for dishing it out (I'm not talking physical either. It can be relentlessly getting in his face and threatening him and he decides to yell back) She cries crocodile tears about it, well tell her "Hey, YOU went looking for a fight. Take some responsibility."

[–]Leinadro 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn straight.

Five: If a girl is bullying and assaulting a boy without reason, don't come to her aid when the boy stands up for himself. Let her take the licks for dishing it out (I'm not talking physical either. It can be relentlessly getting in his face and threatening him and he decides to yell back) She cries crocodile tears about it, well tell her "Hey, YOU went looking for a fight. Take some responsibility."

Or, I dont know, stop the person who is doing the attacking.

That bugs the shit out of me when people will watch a woman attack a man and not say shit (or even worse cheer her on) but as soon as he stands up for himself THEN folks wanna be the brave hero protecting the woman from the big mean patriarch.

[–]HotDealsInTexas 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Three: Start telling girls that, in the future, if they want a sensitive man in touch with his feelings, then stop friendzoning those kinds who attempt to make a move. Or quit complaining about the lack of good men out there when you do.

Eh, I'm iffy about the whole "friendzoning" thing, but I have said on another thread that "sensitive man in touch with his feelings" seems to often be code for "sensitive man in touch with my feelings."

A better way of framing the point might be "If you want a man who's not afraid to show vulnerability, stop judging them for doing so. Also, consider taking the initiative in asking them out, because you might be missing out on a lot of sensitive guys because they don't have the self-confidence to go after you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah. I forgot about the underlying, subliminal messaging in "Sensitive to his feelings".

Thanks for pointing that out.

[–]MegaYanm3ga 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://archive.is/ use

[–]MenandBoysareGood 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess they never heard of Brenda Spencer?

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