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It's TwoXChromosomes. You may as well ask white supremacists about why black people have a preference for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:50 PM
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Im not sure when it happened but I think why it happened is because at some point "tearing men down" became an integral part of "uplifting/protecting/supporting/defending women up". I've noticed over the years that the best way to get women behind the idea of uplifting/protecting/supporting/defending women is with anti-male sentiment. Uplifting/protecting/supporting/defending women on its own is great and I got 0 problem with it. However these days the claim of uplifting/protecting/supporting/de…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 12:47 PM

The only issue I see in all this is that as you say it's a winning strategy for women but at the same time women will swear up and down that the world of dating and sex favors men. Also in an indirect way that strategy proves what red pillers say, that women are the gate keepers of sex (something that women have argued against even as they use that very strategy). Mind you I'm okay with that. Her body her choice in who she has sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:25 AM

Simply put there both men and women who are responsible for killing the word accountability. At this point there's folks on both sides who use the term to hold the other side to standards they refuse to hold their own side to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:11 PM
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I think the biggest problem over all in the the discourse of Men v Women is that a lot of loud people on both sides try to use their experiences to disprove the experiences of those on the other side. I got no problem with women voicing their grievances with dating but it crosses a line when they use those grievances to declare that men have it easy or good in the world of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:06 PM
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The women that would break up with a guy for wanting a rest are the same women that snoop through that same guy's phone and think it's totally okay. In fact that may be the solution. If men are expected to play with their lady snooping in their phone behind their back then why not get a paternity test behind her back?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:24 PM
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But they are often played off as the same for the sake of dismissing why men are hesitant with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:59 PM
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"Not hold onto a break up from the 7th grade into your 30s." That's how people like to put it to dismiss a guys choices forged by experience. I need people to act like a guy choosing not to let future women mistreat him because of how a past one treated him is some sort of slight against women as a whole or that he is wrong to be careful with his heart. And I'm sure you may not mean it that way but thats how it's often used
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:07 PM
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I agree with not holding on the grudges. But I do see a lot of cases where a guy is burned, he chooses to have nothing more to do with the one that wronged him, and he is told he's wrong for choosing to do so. Don't hold on to grudges but don't let people shame you into lowering barriers formed by pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:03 PM
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Honestly I think the problem is men are always expected to let it go
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:08 AM
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Realistically I agree it's just a show trying to capitalize on the panic of the day and shouldn't hold any real value. But as you say people take it as gospel are just dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:00 PM
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But that's the problem that show really is leading people to spit out think pieces left and right about how it's so "accurate" on how it talks about masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:42 PM
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It's not total BS but that reasoning is over exaggerated. And I think it's over exaggerated as a way to absolve women of their shitty behavior that men are finally wising up to. Honestly I think a lot of the shaking up we are seeing in the dating world comes from men waking up and realizing they can have standards too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:33 PM
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I feeling men are already starting to do this and women won't care until it affects them negatively and then we'll see a million think pieces about how men choosing not to date hurts women. (and only women).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:34 AM
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Simple. It's been misused and broadened to the point that a lot of people use it as a code word for "men".
/r/MensRights09/03/25 02:45 PM
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Rage bait from a woman that actually made hating men her entire personality. Also it doesn't help that a lot of feminists try to either pretend she didn't exist or worse actually try to defend her hatred. That specific comment is just a thin veiled claim that all men are bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 02:41 PM
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Yes you can. You understood it. Funny how it seems that men are understanding what I said and some women seem to just be looking for an angle to argue. Its like they are reading to respond not read to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:16 AM
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No I'm not making any suggestion of how horrible women are. I'm arguing against the portion of women who seem to make it their mission to convince the whole world that men as a whole are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:15 AM
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I'd love to see you prove its the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:14 AM
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As soon as you can prove that the majority of men are into that kind of stuff feel free to show your work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:13 AM
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Because men aren't as horrible as some women make us out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:37 PM
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Never heard of her or heard her music before seeing this but there's more than enough music out there so I got no problem blocking a man hating clown.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/25 02:43 PM
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Denying that misandry exists goes back to one simple reason. Women not wanting to be called out on being sexist towards men so they will do everything possible including redefining words to avoid it. They want to be able to treat men however they want free of consequence. It's the same line of logic behind why a person that thinks black people are genetically inferior to white people, will mistreat a person because they are black, and will literally vote to take rights away from black people wil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/25 02:37 PM
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And the only reasonn they even have the opportunity to weaponize it is because the other side has built a following by appealing to people who openly hate men. They could easily disarm the weapon by simply treating men as human.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/25 03:41 PM
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No what I'm saying is there is a difference between taking precaution because someone MIGHT be dangerous and judging/declaring someone IS dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:57 PM
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In that scenario no I would not get offended. That decision to not want to go to my place is a simple safety precaution. She isn't judging me as bad because I am a man. Now if she declines to go to my place but then also starts name calling me and getting on social media saying I was trying to hurt her that would be a huge red flag. She would be crossing the line between being cautious and assuming I was a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:41 PM
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That's the only reason the jewelry industry still runs so strong today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:45 AM
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I guess I'm aging myself but I'll say that the fat acceptance movement isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. About 10 to 15 years ago the concept was more wide spread and more commonly talked about. Also, it seems to be part of the complaint from guys that "You cant criticize women for anything". Thing is, men have always been able to criticize women, even in the current year, you just cant be a misogynist about it. Yeah I've been around long enough to have heard that too many times. Folks sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:43 AM
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The reason men take it personally is because there are women who will use that fear to make illogical leaps and jump to invalid conclusions about men, many times on a personally level. I have zero problem with "I don't know this guy I should be careful." In fact I will defend women who make use of the level of caution. I have a huge problem when in conversation a woman uses that fear to cast judgement on me, making assumptions about be solely based on my being a man, or using that fear to dismis…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:33 AM
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Most of the people here don't consider women the enemies of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/25 04:40 AM
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Asking MRAs to drop the label basically concedes to the idea that the MRM is inherently bad. It's a shaming and control tactic. To be clear even if you drop thr label you will still be hated simply because you want to support men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/25 10:58 PM
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I’m sorry that so many men feel so shunned. I feel like I’ve become a constant outlet for men who feel abandoned to release their frustration on. I know you mean well but for a lot of guys it's not a feeling it's a reality. I try to meditate these situations and handle them with kindness and empathy but it hurts. I'm sorry you experience such treatment but I also thank you for at least trying to hear guys out on these things. I hear your anger, I want to help. The common sentiment I get when ask…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/25 03:27 PM
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I noticed this year's ago. The type of women that want men to act like that swear they just want equality, but they clearly don't want equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/25 03:34 AM
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Honestly I think gay men bash men as a way to basically virtue signal, "I'm not like those other guys I'm one of the good ones!" to women. The male equivalents of Pick Mes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/24 05:22 AM

Their secret is they don't consider men to be human unless men are doing something to benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:56 PM
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Outside of that Nick Fuentes guy I've heard 1 story about how apparently some girl at school was harassed by a group of boys chanring it to her. Problem is I've yet to see anything more than third party people talking about no word from the parent of the girl or the girl herself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 10:12 PM
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The expectation is that if Democrats started listening to and catering to men a loud and probably large portion of Democrat fans will not like it. So as a result Democrat politicians will continue not paying much attention to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:28 AM
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Yeah that's the thing there's a lot of shitty women out there. Also I'd like to do something about them. Kinda like how we don't tell women to avoid shitty men as if that solves the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:16 AM
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No but that's not my point. My point is fans of Democrats demonize men and the Democrats themselves let is slide. Also I'm no fan of Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:14 AM
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Right funny how women are never responsible for what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:44 PM
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Yeah now because women have made it clear of their expectations of men to give into those demands. Even now as women say they are strong and independent they are still demanding that men still cover all the expenses. The idea that it's mem forcing these ideas on mem entirely is willfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:43 PM
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Question. Why are those demands called toxic masculinity instead of internalized misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:27 PM
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It's simple. The right doesn't demonize men then cry misogyny when men speak out against being demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:26 PM
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The is about as pro male as the right. Both sides appeal to a tiny subset of men in ways that alienate other men. Because for all the talk of mem going to the right there are a lot of men on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:25 PM
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No because appealing to young boys would cost the Left a lot of support from women. Namely from women who think helping men is in and of itself misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:23 PM
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Or, "If it doesn't apply let it fly". Which by the way they never hold themselves to that standard but what you a man to be held to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 01:21 AM
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Ha! They forgot that beara can't vote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 07:11 PM
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Now? They've been playing that card since Clinton lost. And they will play it every time a woman they support runs and loses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 07:10 PM
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Don't forget "Kill All Men"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 07:08 PM

Does this mean lesbians are not gonna have sex with women who voted Trump too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:55 PM
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The difference is when men do it's not tolerated to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:18 PM
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The only reason guys care about women who are attracted tk terrible people is because women who are attracted to terrible people will go out of the way to make their attraction to terrible everyone's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:52 PM
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Apparently we need it because women really like to speak for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 05:43 PM
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But women don't understand why men don't open up.....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 08:47 PM
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If your response to mention of male victims is to accuse the person who mentioned it of silencing female victims just go ahead and say you're not interested in helping male victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 05:50 PM
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That's what I was trying to say you said it hetter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 05:30 AM
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This right here. They don't want to get rid of patriarchy they just want to get rid of the parts that don't benefit women, men be damned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 12:28 PM
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I understand that this mental load could be a factor when you have a husband and couple of children that only do stuff when you ask them and they keep asking you about every single thing. On the other hand I know from my and others experience that our moms would do everything on their own and complain that they have to do everything, but when you try to help they will just shoo you away and do it themselves. This part right here. I can tell you from experience that this happens. My wife would co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 12:24 PM
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Emotional Labor is real the problem is it's become a buzzword that women toss out when they want to feel like a victim. Notice that the complaints of emotional labor didn't really ramp up until mem actually started emotionally opening up to the women in their lives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 12:18 PM
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Right. They don't mean every individual man but they use that line on every individual man that brings up greaivances. It's about as bad as their use of "not all men". As in "We know it's not all men but we are going to bring up at every mention of men in order to maintain the illusion thay it is all men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 07:42 PM
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Honestly I respond by pointing out their whataboutism and ask why they care so much about "who has it worse?".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 10:08 PM
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I can let that slide because they are doing the baby step of "men don't equal patriarchy" which is badly needed because a lot of feminists use "men" and "patriarchy" like they are interchangeable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 03:33 PM
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Because the bar is so ridiculously low for the likes of Tate. Literally all they have to do is not hate men. That's it. The bar is at "Don't hate men" and so many left leaning people STILL fail to meet it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 06:22 AM
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And you can see it now in online spaces. The label Pick Me is largely used by feminists as a way to insult a woman for not hating men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 05:39 AM
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How can they criticise us for not being able to discuss our issues without bringing up feminism when they also can't discuss our issues without bringing up feminism? How? Simple a lot of feminists like to hold men to standards that they refuse to hold themselves or women to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 05:38 AM
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This part but not just feminists but women. A lot of women are so quick to try to define what masculinity is but the majority of the time they define it by men's relationship to women. How many times have you heard a woman say, "A real man would...."? That's nothing but her trying to shame men into doing masculinity her way to her benefit. We will never heal men on the large scale as long as so many people insist on making women the center of the conversation on men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 06:26 PM
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I learned this a long time ago. A lot of feminists, when presented with a woman who was mistreated, will argue tooth and nail to assert thay her being a woman is a factor in her mistreatment. However when presented with a man who was mistreated, will argue tooth and nail that him being a man had nothing to do with his mistreatment. To a lot of feminists when it comes to black men only race matters but with black women only gender matters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 02:39 AM
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I'd he willing to accept that first option problem us that leaves the question of why aren't feminists who aren't hateful doing something about it. I mean if they can manages to call for men who aren't hateful towards women to do something about the small minority of men who do hate women....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 02:15 AM
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Does this study basically amount to, "The police department that was accused of misconduct investigated itself and found no evidence of misconduct"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 02:12 AM
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I gave up on that place years ago after realizing they prioritize feminism over men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 09:12 PM
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And even terrible women characters are given a big heap of backstory and circumstance meant to portray them as victims of men rather than being horrible on their own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 09:04 PM
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Based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 01:47 AM
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That or she will ramp up her efforts to find another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:43 AM
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Because a lot of people who hate the idea of sex work either hate the women who are sex workers or the mem who hire them. Some even hate both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:10 PM
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Right. People that use the danger women face as some sort of proof that men either face no danger or so little danger it pales in comparison thus not worth talking about
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 05:54 AM
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What's funny is women already talk to mem like that.....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 07:57 PM
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Ask her to name right now what rights men have that women don't. Not rights that men had and women didn't in the past and have been corrected but right now on this day what rights do men have that women don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 02:23 PM
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Or like France where a man can only get a paternity test if he has a court order and permission from the mother. Oh and its illegal to get the test done in another country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 02:20 PM
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I'll remember to add, "She wouldn't have sexually assaulted me if I hadn't been on the internet" to the story next time I tell it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 03:47 AM
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That part. All the Right had to do was not treat men like shit. The bar is that low and so many people on the Ledt still manage to fail it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 07:04 PM
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I have to ask. Is it that men are going to the Right or are they just going away from the Left and the Lefr is calling it "going to the Right"? This is right up there with how calling female abusers to be dealt with can get you accused of supporting violence against women, speaking up for male victims can get you called a misogynist and promoting male spaces for healing can get you accused of not caring about the healing of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 07:02 PM
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Honestly I just avoid people who are actually aligned with the Right. It can be hard to do sometimes since there's this idea that anything that that Feminist/Progressive/Left don't like is Right Wing. I remind myself that them not liking it doesn't make it bad. That makes the difference between being against abortion (which I think is wrong regardless of what Left think) and wanting toxic women to be held accountable for their crap (which I agree with regardless of what Left thinks).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 02:18 AM
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No, because the customers admitting to it isn't the problem. There's stigma on both sides. Both the sex workers and the customers are shamed by a culture that knows sex is a thing but will shame people for having it under circumstances they don't approve of. If we want sex work to become accepted, 2 things need to happen. Legalize it and treat it just like any other occupation. Stop stigmatizing the workers and the customers. And it has to be both. You can't expect to desrigmatize 1 while still …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:29 PM
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I can agree with that. For example when it comes to the concept that girls were told that they shouldn't shouldn't be aggressive we don't say "girls dont know how to be aggressive" we usually say, "aggression is seen as a bad in girls". I'm thinking it's more like, "Discussion of feelings is seen as a bad thing for boys" rather than "Boys don't know how to discuss their feelings".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 03:18 PM
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Sounds like she MIGHT be using trauma to protect herself from stats that would go against her arguments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 04:33 AM
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Because they break the rules for those types of guys and when they get hurt by them those women will then take it out on the guys they make the rules for. She will do all of that before she questions what kind of guys she breaks the rules for. We see this with guys that only go for conventionally attractive women and then get treated like crap by those women. Folks have 0 problem telling those guys to rethink what kind of women they go for (which I agree with).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:01 PM
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Welcome. Seems these days speaking positively about men or being critical of women or feminism is considered hate speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 09:00 PM
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Good point. Work on yourself and let women prove themselves to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:12 PM

Being treated like a fall back plan is a worse outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:39 PM
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While not quite a revenge rape I do recall the movie 40 Days 40 Nights. Guy vows no sex (also no maturation) for 40 days and 40 nights. On the final he has someone tie him to his bed so he can't touch himself and lock him in his apartment. He is portrayed as so horny he starts dreaming about having sex. The dream then ends with his ex girlfriend riding him. Turns out the ex still had a key to his place, let herself in, and had sex with just to break his vow of no sex The real problem I had with …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 03:37 PM
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Yeah there's a reason white women hate Burr. He calls them on their shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 03:07 AM
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Namely, I've been noticing an increasing number of accusations that many men would be r***sts, pedophiles, or necrophiles if they thought they could get away with it. Comments like that largely come from people who want to fear monger and/or they just hate men. Likewise I believe a lot of people on all sides of that damn "Man or Bear" question are acting in complete bad faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 06:35 PM
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I can’t help but notice that all the positive traits that used to be associated with boys are now considered gender neutral (strong, capable, intelligent, ambitious), while most of the positive traits that used to be associated with girls are still associated with girls (nurturing, empathetic, detail-oriented, polite). Meanwhile, boys have been assigned plenty of negative traits: they will embody “toxic masculinity.” They will be difficult. They won’t be kind. They’ll grow up to be obnoxious fra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 06:29 PM
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Im so glad this place is not like MensLib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 06:24 PM
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The negative energy of a mom not wanting a boy dwarfs any negative energy any father has ever had over not wanting a girl.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 12:48 AM
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Simple be more supportive men. A lot of crime committed by men is out of desperation. Feed the family. Get basic necessities for oneself. We see a lot of assistance programs won't even consider helping men based on old assumptions that men don't need help. This can also be seem in some war situations where men are often just left out of aid efforts. Just be willing to help men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 12:43 PM

Women who are loud about the worst of men DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND MEN Understanding men is too close to treating men like we're human in their minds. If saw us as human they'd have to think twice about hating us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:39 AM
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Yet for some reason men that take pleasure in women being afraid of them is seen as inherently bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 02:31 PM
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That's because the goal of holding all men responsible wasn't never to keep women safe. The goal was to use it justification to hate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 10:43 AM
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"Women outlive men. Women most affected."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 12:17 PM
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That's what I was about to comment. For all the complaints about toxic masculinity people seem to be fans of its when it's used in a way they approve of. It's no different than a woman that likes a guy that gets loud and angry as long he never gets loud and angry at her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/24 04:26 AM
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I'm all for fixing the framework problem is we are dealing with A LOT of people who actively refuse to acknowledge that the framework has problems. And they deny it because the framework benefits them. You could even say the framework gives them a privilege position. But addressing the issues would level the playing field.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:58 PM
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Because most people use intersectionally for the express purpose of denying discrimination against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:54 PM
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Because to people like that gay men face homophobia solely because of sexual orientation but gay women face homophobia because of gender and sexual orientation. I shit you not I've seen people use and try to defend this argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:43 PM
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Step 4 They claim anything that LOOKS like misandry is actually misogyny. Therefore if men want the thing they think is misandry to be addressed they must first focus on the misogyny that is causing the think they think is misandry. (Example: Homophobia. In the minds of a lot of people homophobia against men is actually hatred of the feminine. Therefore if men want to stop homophobia they must first deal with the way the feminine is hated. Absolute crock of shit I know....)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 06:00 PM
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I'd say it's downright sexist to assume a man will step in to help a woman. Seems funny how this expectation seems to always slip past people who want to get rid of gendered expectations. And to be clear it's a gendered expectation because only men are expected to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:56 PM
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This right here. OP is basically asking women to explain why they hate people just for being male. As if bigotry has a justified and valid explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:55 PM

You're basically trying to tell men to deny what women themselves have told them. You keep saying what they believe is untrue. If that's the case then additional question would be why do women tell them that stuff about size?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:12 PM
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A woman. I say a woman because women complain that men are intimidated by them while men complain women don't want nice guys. "Men are intimidated by strong independent women." is the female equivalent of "Women just want to date jerks."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:51 AM
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But women are the ones that are treated unfairly right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/24 12:05 PM
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Okay I acknowledge that there are forces at work that want us to be divided. However the hatred is real. Now I'm not saying everyone is against men but I'll give you an example. A few months ago, you may have heard about the story of Brick Lady aka Rho Osmun. She is a black woman who said she was hit by a brick by a black guy after she rejected hus advances. This incident was largely used as an excuse to complain about black men as a whole. I personally was told I "should have been aborted" and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 04:23 AM
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If you're looking for a stash of audio recordings and screenshots I don't have them. But don't expect it to get much attention because frankly giving attention is in and of itself seen as a bad thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 02:26 AM
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Some of them, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 01:21 AM

Does that happen? Yes. Most relationships? Serious Doubt. I doubt it because for the longest time this kind of deterioration has only been told from the woman's side and in a lot cases the man's side provides context that changes the outlook. It's easy to say he "stopped putting in effort" when in fact "his efforts were almost exclusively met with complaints". It's easy to say "I did all the chores myself" when it fact "She just didn't like the way he did chores". And no that's not "weaponized i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:46 AM
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Politicians, Feminists, real life conversation, internet talking heads, etc..... A little bit of each column.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 12:34 AM
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I think the way most people use toxic masculinity equates to wanting to find a way to talk about misandry and sexism against males without calling them misandry or sexism against males. I say this because it usually ends in the place of "it's men's own fault" or "it's society's fault". By some feat of magic the most folks will say about women is they reinforce toxic masculinity but they are never the source of the toxicity that affecting males.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 10:01 PM
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Yeah I refuse to help people who actively hate me and don't want me to live because I'm male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 12:52 AM
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"If you don't ovulate stay out of the debate" Also: "Why are men not speaking up on abortion?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 12:52 AM
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And the misunderstanding comes from the fact that most of the people who say "men will only listen to men" are intentionally not putting in the nuance of "....listen to people they respect and feel understands them well..." because they don't want to. They choose to tie it all together by male gender and male gender alone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 12:51 AM
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I agree with this as well. The deeper issue is that body image issues has been largely gendered as a female thing so when males are affected its ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 02:30 PM
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Yeah no. While the right has done this the left itself has done men little favors in the form of twisting men's issues until they look like they are really women issues and pretty much absolving women of having any sort of negative affect on men. That new "brand" of feminism you describe thrives on its own without any influence from the right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 02:26 PM
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You literally answered your own question. To be specific a lot of leftists don't like talking about men's issues outside the context of "men create problems for themselves and women.". If this place became MensLib Lite the hostility from leftists would stop overnight because then this would be just another progressive space where you can come to blame everything on mem while pretending to be the only kind of space that cares about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 02:23 PM
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And it doesn't help that even people who brand themselves as being supportive of all people will be the first ones to downplay the wall to wall misandry and downplay the affects it has (and in worst cases some of them even support such things).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 09:56 PM
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That's a valid point. And I think people who insist on women having it worse in term of body damage issues would somehow tell themselves that steroids don't count in body image issues or as the subject here is "men choose to do that to themselves".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:56 PM
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The real hurdle isn't even men expecting wonen to men (infact I think a lot of women just use thus as an excuse to bash men because it's so hip and trendy to do so). The bugger problem I see is even when men build up their own spaces away from women to do their own thing women will go out of the way to invade, complain about, and try to destroy those spaces. A lot of women are of this weird paradox of "Women should t be expected to help men but men shouldn't be able to help themselves unless wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:26 AM
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If male loneliness is self inflicted then so are women's body image issues. We know there are external factors that contribute to male loneliness and the only reason it's being called self inflicted is because the topic is about men. Notice that when it comes to women and body image issues it's laid out clear that women internalize messaging from external sources. On the other hand when it comes to almost anything that affects men we're suddenly supposed to act like men just self inflict in a va…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:20 AM
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That part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:46 AM
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My thought is women who believe that have 0 business getting mad when called out for making it all about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:46 AM
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Feminists have spent more time trying to dictate to men what our problems are than trying to fix them. It's hard to protest when a movement that brands itself as being against gender roles puts so much effort into erasing men's experiences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:46 PM
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Yea is this a trick question?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 03:14 PM
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So now that you're doubly wrong don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 11:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 11:19 PM
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You can downvote all you want but it doesn't change the fact that people were okay with men being lonely until it started to negatively impact women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:36 PM
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I think that's part of the issue. Celebrating men for just our existence is still seen as a bad thing. Ironically that is often pushed the most by people who go out of the way to celebrate women just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:52 PM
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Men aren't keeping up. They are unfit, they aren't developing careers, and they are checking out of society. Several decades of being told you're useless, violent, and terrible because you're male can lead to them checking out. All in all I think this is a scary but ultimately wonderful time of discovery for men. A chance for men to truly discover ourselves and not have the rest of the world only caring about us because of what we can do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:47 PM
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Not quite. People didn't notice or care about men being lonely until straight women started going on about how their dating pool to pick from is so shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:45 PM
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so what you are admitting is, women look for quality men over quantity? I think men also look for quality as well but when that doesn't pan out they then look for quantity (ie "anyone"). It seems to me what is going on is by the time men speak on being lonely they have already exhausted most viable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:43 PM
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Because people would rather believe a man is bad, even a male victim, before even considering the idea that a woman is anything other than a perfect angel who does no wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 12:21 PM
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The fact that they are calling people involved over this jist shows they are yelling for attention. They've learned their hatred for men can make them popular on the internet so they go for it. I'm sure in a few weeks that person will be crying, "Why don't men support women?" and have no idea she answered her own question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 02:46 PM
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You're right it's not new. Women have literally gotten away with cold blooded murder with this line of thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 04:48 AM
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Yeah gonna have to disagree on how wonen use the virgin insult. Too often it's women using it to shame men who simply to talk back, have a different opinion, or refuse to let a woman treat them like a doormat. In fact I'll even say the explanation that "women only say X to men in response to...." is overused as well. Often used to excuse the behavior of a woman who was clearly in the wrong. But I can agree that different people have different excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:41 AM
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I don't think they do care that much. Think about it like this Wonen use the virgin/pathetic loser insult almost as much if not more than men use the lonely insult on women. And I don't think those women care about men being sexless losers. They just latch onto a popular insult. Same thing here. Men don't care about women being alone they just latched onto a popular insult..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:08 PM
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I mean we are at a point where this fear is used to avoid holding women accountable/responsible for their own terrible behavior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 03:31 AM
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Women seem to live in fear and blame men for it. This fear is never-ending and no matter how hard men try to make women feel less fear, it will never work. It's a fools errand. And that's how some women and men want it. They want a ln eternal excuse for why women don't trust men so that there is always a reason for women to hate men. And for folks like that nothing short of men disappearing from existence would satisfy them. Crime could disappear overnight and they would just create new reasons …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/24 12:59 PM
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Frankly I wouldn't because people like that would refuse to listen anyway. They are dead set in the mentality that such changes only happen in that direction. They will never admit that men make changes for women because that requires acknowledging that women exist in some other capacity than as victims of men. In short that guy has drank too much Kool Aid he's too far gone. He likely is going for some sort of Guilty by Gender Association argument in that by simply being male we are responsible …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/24 12:53 PM
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It seems like some of you are taking it as a personal offence when it's not. People have all kinds of ways of coping with trauma We take it personally when its used against us personally. When you're told that you're a threat by simply being male that's personal. Not just "give us our space" but straight up "your existence is a threat to us". Yeah that's personal as fuck. And while I recognize that you aren't doing it those that advocate the loudest for female only spaces and for men to be treat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/24 02:41 PM
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Which has been a problem for decades. The worst of men being presented as representation of men as a whole. In their minds we are the same as Brock Turner, Donald Trump, and Hitler because we share gender identity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/24 01:24 PM
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All of this. It's to a point now that people who aren't even incels use it to basically mean "guy that said something I don't like".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 09:24 PM
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Exactly this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/24 11:57 PM
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I agree. Intersectionality is a tool meant to get people to look at the fact that different identities can affect someone's experiences. However most people use it to establish a hierarchy of Who Has It Worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 01:56 AM
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The plain reality is that person wasn't interested in a conversation. They literally skimmed over that tweet, saw the bit about "racism towards white people", and decided to use that to claim victory ie not even address what was being said. They are engaging in willful ignorance and think they are "winning" an argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 05:18 AM
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Unless you are saying that feminist should manage their discourse so that anti-male sentiment is controlled or avoided (which is reasonable), they really can’t do anything. That's precisely what I'm saying. Feminists love telling men and men's groups that they need to check their own and police their own when it comes to dealing with anti-female sentiment (which is absolutely reasonable and I agree with) but seem to always have a list of reasons why they can't (or won't) check their own and poli…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/02/24 02:40 PM
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I think the reason people feel there is some degree of inherent anti male sentiment in feminism is because of hiow eminists respond to anti male sentiment being pointed out be it inherent or not. In a lot of cases feminists do one of the following when pointed towards anti male sentiment: 1. Gaslight the critic in an attempt to convince then they aren't really seeing any anti male sentiment. Give excuses for why they THINK it's anti male when it's "really something else". Dismiss the person as b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/02/24 08:05 AM
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Right as in feminism is perfect and the only way someone could he critical of it is if they don't interpret properly. It's always the critic's fault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/24 10:32 PM
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The response to anti male sentiment is basically, "Not All Feminists Are Like That"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 11:49 PM
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A lot of feminists won't come into spaces like this because they know they can't act any way they want free of consequence. In their own spaces they go crazy because they know the mods will protect them. But they know to he careful outside of their own spaces because they don't have mods to protect them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 12:11 AM
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Just like the old headlines, "108 people killed, including 10 women and children".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 12:56 PM
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They attack those resources because they don't make women the center of attention. Build a space "for men" but forces everything through a lens of "how can men be better for the sake of women" and suddenly feminists are okay with it. Hence why they let Men's Lib slide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 05:13 PM
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Feminist theory for male advocacy is limited by how feminism prioritizes women. You can't advocate for a group of people and make that advocate conditional on how members of another group feel about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/24 08:42 AM
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Correction they believe presumption of innocence shouldn't apply to men. Amber Heard: "He abused me" Women: "It must be true." 3 Yeats later Johnny Depp says she assaulted him along with literal recording of Herad basically saying, "Yeah I attacked you what are you gonna do about it?" Also Women: "If you don't believe Heard without question that proves you hate women!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 12:25 AM
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Sounds loke a lot of the subs around here. I'm in a few where there's literally daily postage thay devolve into "Men are terrible because..." but if a man is critical of even a specific woman ita taken as hatred of all women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/24 08:32 PM
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I don't think intersectionality was ever meant to help men. In fact I think one of it's main purposes is to further deny or derail attention or care paid towards men and our issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 06:34 AM
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And the point is further made in how people are so outraged they don't acknowledge that America Ferrera, the main woman of color in the movie, got a Best Supporting Actress nomination. But no let's just be mad and pretend that white women are the center of the everyone's universe.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:19 PM
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Making rape laws gender equal. As in make it possible to charge women/girls with rape when the victim is male and treat it with the same weight and strictness as a male raping a woman. Make life time alimony an exception rather than the norm. Unless there's some special circumstance alimony should be limited to a certain number of years. Got to eliminate this nonsense of being married for 5 years and a court awarding her a cut of his pay for the rest of his life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/23 05:11 PM
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Some of them literally want it both ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 11:53 PM
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Also see: Feminists: "Mem need to learn how to be close with their male friends so they don't dump on the women in their lives." Also Feminists: "It's not fair to women that men spend so much time with their male friends."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 10:41 PM

No one enjoys the reality that half the population could beat them to death with little effort no matter what they do. While true this has 0 bearing on what I said. When men speak up about being assaulted by a woman one of first things they get told is some form of "How? A woman can't really hurt a man. Look at the physical difference". It's similar to why people can think of a million ways a man could rape a woman but bring up a woman raping a man and all of a sudden no one can think of how tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:41 PM
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I think the problem is trying to equalize their experiences. Me personally k don't use the desert/ocean analogy to try to portray them as being equal. I use it simply to show that neither side really has it easy. As in the mere fact there are problems on both sides, not that they both have the same problems
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:13 PM
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Because women enjoy the illusion that they can't really hurt a man. If it wasn't for things like playing it up for laughs people actually take women who abuse men seriously and they don't want that. (Obligatory "not all women are like that")
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:08 PM
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"if you actually listen to your partner when they say something feels good, it’s pretty easy to make them orgasm" If she actually communicates it. The issue I often find is that there's thus idea that women just easily and readily say what makes them feel good when that's not the case with a lot of women. I've had women straight say they shouldn't have to tell a man he should already know. And in before "But not all woman are like". Sure they aren't but there's a lot of them out there. As for su…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:04 PM
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They do but it's more for the sake dismissal than actual examination of the reddit. I recall back in 2016 this reddit was largely against Trump and if someone did express pro Trump sentiment there were people lining up to argue against them.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 05:13 PM
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At this point a 40yo woman going for a 20yo guy is seen as empowering and bold. And it's because there is no starting assumption of predatory intent. When an older man goes for a younger woman a lot of people start off assuming he is trying to take advantage of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:10 PM
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You're not wrong at all. People will get more upset at a man playing with his own kids at the park than a woman straight up raping a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:08 PM
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Sure that is okay. What's not okay is how women basically cry misogyny when me get selective. Not even extremely selective jist selective. They feel entitled tk not choose average men but when men turn them down for any reason it's taken as proof such men hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:56 AM
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The problem isn't even bell hooks herself. The problem are feminists that use her as nothing more than a weapon against anyone that's critical of how feminism regards men. To them she and her work are little more than "Your criticism is wrong because bell hooks" Card. You know how feminists love to say men that identify with the movie Fight Club don't really understand Fight Club? Yea feminists who use bell hooks as a weapon don't really understand bell hooks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/23 07:21 PM
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Good. Place was a dumpster fire of hatred that got a free pass by identifying as feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/23 05:08 AM
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Valid question and that's what I'm talking about. The well being of the child is used almost exclusively against men. When it comes to women those who are against men abandoning all parental responsibilities suddenly want women to be free to get out of parental responsibilities by almost any means. Seriously as long as the mother doesn't harm the child she will get support for abandoning responsibilities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/23 05:01 PM
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Speaking of flaws. A lot of feminists skim over bell hooks jist enough to use her as a weapon against men that are critical of feminism or women in any way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 05:52 PM
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I call this guilt by gender association. In their minds we share gender with the men that created the system therfore we are equally responsible for creating it. It's an attempt at imposing an Original Sin on those who are born male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 05:51 PM
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The main argument is usually some form of using the well being of the child to keep the dad on the hook in ways they would never use against the mom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 05:46 PM
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It's a mixed bag. Some are genuinely concerned. Some are jealous of those younger women. Some are bitter and just don't want men to be happy. Also notice if they are questioning the situation or are they assuming the situation. I've seen a lot of women who as soon as they find out about the age gap go straight to assuming the guy is a predator/manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:43 PM
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My question is why do people use how often they happen to downplY how damaging they can be?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 09:18 PM
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Because she doesn't want to hold women responsible/accountable for how they choose to treat men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 10:10 PM
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I feel this. I don't want to side with a movement that has members that literally laughed at me when I told them I was SA'd by a drunk woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 02:00 AM
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This part. The whole "don't blame women" defense is often used to absolve women of responsibility for their very behavior. You can't expect to deal with an issue like women abusing men when you got folks who cry "Don't blame women" the moment you point out a female abuser.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 05:41 AM

If women had really moved on there wouldn't be so many of them getting in the internet to trash men for attention and cry "where are the good men?". Also if they had really moved on they wouldn't be so bothered by men who are not seeking out relationships with women anymore. So sure YOU and people close to you ha e moved on but you're nowhere near close to being able to speak for even a majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:55 PM
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Oh yeah I'm aware that that happened but in my experience it's much easier to call out or at least openly complain about spaces loke the one you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:04 AM
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You think shaming and insults are gonna work with someone you think is acting like a toddler?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:50 PM
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But you can’t say men don’t do the exact same thing. They fall for some instabaddie and then get butthurt when she doesn’t stop posting thirst traps, which is exactly what attracted him to her in the first place I dont recall saying that men dont do that. What I am saying is that how wonen speak of men is defended on a more grand scale than what you describe men doing. A few months ago I was in a Facebook group that was centered around dating for nerds. On a daily basis there were posts allowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 06:29 PM
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That bad apple analogy is selectively applied so either it should be applied to all or applied to none. And there's more to this than the fake tough guy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:28 PM
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Yes it's a natural process so why shame and be hostile to men going through it when they are not hostile themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:25 PM
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The problem is its not just the assholes being treated that way. If it were just limited to assholes I would fully agree with you but these days just being a guy that expresses frustration over rejection is a definition of asshole apprently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:24 PM
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Oh they do. It just mostly innthe form of words instead of actions. When get rejected it becomes open season to call that man ever insult under the sun, accuse him of all sorts of insecurities, and then generalize men as not being worth a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:32 PM
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Socially acceptable because men getting depressed and angry over it makes it easier to dismiss how men feel in these situations. If a guy gets angry over being rejected it's surprisingly easy for people to write him as an entitled male with hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:27 PM
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And then when things don't work out with that guy it isn't "I chose the wrong guy" or even "That guy was terrible" it's "Men ain't shit" "Men are dogs" "Men don't treat women right". And somehow men pointing this out means men have a disdain for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:25 PM
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Because in a lot of cases it's not just the rejection itself it's the shaming amd insulting that is passed off as just rejection or just stating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:21 PM

No no no. You're free to turn down the $20 coffee date on the premise that as a young woman you have the power of being highly sought after The problem is when you women embrace this mentality while at the same time claiming it's not about the money. Thinking a man has to spend a certain amount to be worth my of your time is quite literally you making it about the money. But on the other side men have to check the waters to see if you are worth spending that money. Being young and pretty isn't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:01 PM
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Because men are raised to believe difficulty in a relationship is a part of being in a relationship. We ate lead to believe that it can all be worked out with enough effort and hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:34 PM

Because of the ironically sexist idea that no men face any significant shaming where being male plays a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:00 AM
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Yes you're right. They put feminism above all else no matter what.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 07:01 PM
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They just hate anything that doesn't center women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 07:45 PM
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Just remember MensLib puts women above all else no matter what.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 07:44 PM
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Because MensLib is little more than the tiny bit of support for men that feminism grants permission to exist. If there is every anything that looks like conflict between "Defend feminism" and "Support men" that place will pick "Defend feminism" EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/21 02:32 PM
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Like it or not there is a huge psychological difference here whichaffects the way we react. Which is why it’s insane to pretend men andwomen are the same. It’s crazy to think that men and men are all thesame too but you know what I mean. I think the problem here is the psychological differences are being assumed and assigned rather than being observed. What I mean by this is that instead of listening to men's experiences and feelings it is assumed that because we are men assaulted by women there…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/21 02:24 PM
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I agree on the frustration of the double standard. ​ I don't think most feminists have any concept of how shitty it is to be held to higher standards all the fucking time. Which is funny because a lot of them love to claim that women are held to higher standards than men in almost everything. ​ Sure, you might not get respect if you go out on a major tirade about how you hate men and masculinity but at least people will listen and feel like some of that anger is justified. That really is a probl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/21 02:14 PM
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Looking through her eyes, it would be hard to tell the difference between "I didn't get her answer" and "I brushed her off because she was female" I hate to sound mean but honestly that's a her problem not a you problem. Short of you giving an explanation there is no way to really tell which way she will go. Hell even if you do explain she might take as more evidence that you disregarded her answer because she was a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 02:19 PM
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I'm glad we do. I just think its worth bearing in mind that despite the ideas being the main problem the people who use those ideas are a problem as well that must be faced. ​ Or to put it another way. When it comes to white supremacist ideas we acknowledge that both the ideas and the people that use them are problems that must be dealt with right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 02:06 PM
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Yeah I don't think you credited the wrong person. You credited the person who broke down the situation and showed you why it was wrong rather than the person who just said the answer. If I'm looking for a recipe and you find just a set of directions on one site but after making it once and it not turning out good you find another site that has directions, images, photos, and a comment section to ask further questions and when you follow it it comes out great which one are you going to bookmark f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 08:45 PM
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I find that with feminists they do want the same thing however the crucial differences are 1 how did we get to the mess that we are in today and 2 exactly how do we reach that common goal. They should not be the enemy but at the same time MRAs shouldn't be the enemy either (also "in broad terms" as you say) but whenever there are negative elements of either that's holding things back they have to be dealt with. Ultimately its not even the MRAs and feminists themselves but the ideas that they emp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 08:36 PM
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The big difference is three fold: Society REALLY depends on men engaging in behavior that is ultimately bad for us. Society has spent literal generations convincing men that liberating ourselves is a bad thing. Unlike women there is no desire or will to be supportive in even a superficial sense. Hell there is almost a desire to see men suffer which motivates people to see us not be liberated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 07:40 PM
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If feminists are the ones using gender roles to benefit their ideology they become the problem. The same as MRAs that push gender roles for their benefit. You can't address the issue of gender roles while the very people who claim to pushing towards eliminating them still utilize them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 07:37 PM
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That's a tough one. The expectation is to fight inequality regardless of the source but at the same time it's taboo to point out the negativity that comes directly from feminism. However I understand your point about "good looks". The fight for men is very different from the fight for women and unfortunately men have to play nice in a way that women don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 07:10 PM
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I'm not sure she meant quite that, since she hasn't done anything for men, as far as I'm aware. She may have simply meant that she was happy to have men torn down to the level she believed women were at.. Yeah I don't think she would mean to tear men down (which by the way is something a lot of feminists claim they are against). ​ Hold up, there. "they" are not making the claim! One feminist may have appeared to say that, six years ago. The "they" is those making the claim not all feminists. ​ J…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/21 02:31 PM
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But there are feminists that do make that claim. Here is the CEO of the Ms. Foundation (https://www.forbes.com/sites/bonniemarcus/2015/03/31/true-feminism-is-about-equality-for-both-genders/?sh=56aa10ac190d) The definition, as I have spent my life believing it to be, is the belief that men and women should have equal social, political, and economic rights and opportunities. I do think that that is the most inclusive definition of what feminism is about. It's about equality for both men and women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/21 12:27 AM
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It's not so much as blaming feminism for creating man hatred. Its about holding feminism responsible for not following through its own claims of being supportive of all genders and in some cases even acting against those claims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/21 02:59 AM
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First thing to bear in mind is that a lot of the "all you do is complain and don't do anything" is coming from people who want to shut down the conversation on men's issues. Men are connecting and helping each other but its going to take time. I'm not sure why men are expecting to instantly solve all our problems when every other group is still working on theirs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 06:20 PM
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You shouldn't vote red because they don't care about men anymore than the blues do. Simply put the difference between red and blue in terms of men's issues is about the same as the difference between getting shot in the chest 2 times or 4 times. People in the comments below are gonna try to argue that one is worse than the other but frankly put they both suck and they will both leave men in a bad way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 04:04 PM
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It is the only way I can see we can avoid this problem arising, due to the MGTOW fall out they have been trying to specifically get us banned, we are first on their targeting list. What's amazing is that subs like that get a free pass. They specifically target subs with the malicious intent of getting them banned and in some cases even break the actual law (posting child porn) and that's allowed to pass but some cranky jerks say they hate women and all of a sudden the top leadership of Reddit is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 05:17 PM
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Its because they use a selective definition of hate in order to justify their own shitty views. In their minds when it comes to gender it's not hate when the target is men because men are "oppressors". In fact many of them truly think that what they are doing is holding men accountable/responsible for their actions. They really think they are doing good by trashing men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 03:32 PM
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On one thread in fragilemaleredditor someone said "I heard MensRights was cheering the Plymouth Shooter" It wouldn't surprise me if someone literally made that up from nowhere. I've seen people pull that and when asked to show it they either go quiet or switch to "i don't have a direct link because i refuse to go over there but that is totally something they would do". And if I'm in the mood I will then actually go looking for said proof myself and find someone condeming it and actually share it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 03:30 PM
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Yeah which basically translates to, "I don't have anything to back up my assertion I'm just declaring that your sub is hateful for my own satisfaction".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 03:17 PM
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Any focus on men, however temporary or contingent, is helping an already privileged group. I think its actually more finely tuned than that. The most common critics of spaces like this (spaces that don't prioritize women over men) are people who are coming from an ideology that thinks it has already figured out everything that men need to do in order to fix all their problems and anyone that disagrees must be the enemy. Like helping men in a way that they do not approve of is an inherently bad t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 02:49 PM
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If the pictures were mostly of women fleeing then the narrative would be that men are kicking women out of the country. No matter what the narrative is going to be "women are victims and men are trash".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 12:28 PM
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I wonder how the public isn't completely ashamed of themselves forpromoting this kind of unjust vilification of men who are actually infact trying to fulfil their traditional duties towards their families. They aren't ashamed because the vilification of men is seen as a good thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 12:26 PM
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I'm seeing a who lot of folks claiming this post supports Cosby and rape but I'm not seeing how posting a link to an article supports rape. As for the comments below the ones supporting Cosby or trying to downplay what he did are being rightly down voted so what's the issue? The shit happened it needs to be talked about and the majority of folks here clearly condemn Cosby and what he did. Some of yall really need to get this notion out of your head that mentioning Cosby here means you defend him…
/r/MensRights03/07/21 07:55 PM
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Sound like you are a pedo/rapist trying to rationalize and project. Nice try but this and you sound useless to helping men's rights. Quote the exact thing I said that led you to the incorrect conclusion that I'm a pedophilia. You won't find it but I'm sure you'll come up with some silly shit. You sound useless in general. Please, don't have children or talk to anyone for that matter. You're a joke. Again where are you getting this from? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for go…
/r/MensRights03/07/21 07:50 PM
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There's like 3 people in all these comments trying to defend. Fuck those clowns.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 07:47 PM
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I think you're projecting what some of the commenters are saying (which is disgusting) onto whoever made this post. The person that made this post didn't say they supported him going free they literally just posted a link to an article on it. Thing is this is a hot button topic and trying to avoid it or pretend it's not a thing would be even worse than OP sharing the link.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 07:43 PM
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this is the dem strategy. appeal exclusively to radical feminists and the lgbtq community and lose massively. the lgbtq community is about 5% and the percentage of feminists is less than 30% in the us. They also count on shaming a sufficient amount of male voters into supporting Dems out of fear of being seen as hating equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 07:03 PM
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Sure feminism as a whole is not the enemy but ask yourself this. If feminists (obligatory not all feminists) did hate or have some disdain/disregard for men then why is it when men bring up issues that are bothering us and we want to do something about them feminists go through so much effort to silence men that don't agree with them, will hijack the issues to make them seem like its all about women, and will then claim that feminism MUST be part of any solution for men's issues? As a counter qu…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 04:33 PM
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I agree that it can help but I do fear it will be lost in the shuffle. Just on the surface level I noticed a good bit of chatter on this was framed as "misogynist kills female judge's son" and if they mentioned Angelucci there usually wasn't mention of him being an MRA. It will be hard to change public perception of the MRM and this is honestly going to be one of its uphill battles: Selective mention of the MRM so that it only comes up when there is something negative to say about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/21 05:27 AM
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It seems kind of ironic that anti-MRA types use this quote nowadays and are seemingly oblivious to its origins. It would not surprise me at all if feminists actually were aware of this. It wouldn't be the first time they have co-opted/stolen concepts, terms, and language from other sources and acted like they invented it in the first place. Damn colonizers...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/21 02:50 AM
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Don't be scared to try to get the occasional feminist on your show. Obviously you don't want to invite one on and turn it into a grill session where they are expected to just answer for every criticism of feminism ever. But it would be worth having them on to discuss common grounds and encourage teamwork.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/21 02:53 PM
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Exactly. The very reason they retaliate is because they want to derail the conversation. They don't like the idea of someone talking about men outside of their umbrella so to disrupt you they will do whatever they can to get you focus on them just so they can cry victim. Don't fall for their crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/21 04:42 AM
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Do you have a man website that I can go to share your posts from? They are nice bite sized bits with citation that can be shared easily.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/21 05:23 PM
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Wow what a jerk. But that doesn't surprise me. Straight women have for a long time have no problem straight up invading gay male spaces under the guise of "not wanting to be bothered by straight men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/21 05:10 PM
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Anti-male might not be the intent but as feminists love to say intent is not magic. While not literally every feminist is like this there are a lot of them that do tolerate (and sometimes even encourage) such behavior. If feminism is for all sexes then its time to ask feminists why they treat men this way instead of just demanding men accept the behavior on the premise that feminists could not possibly mistreat anyone because reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/21 05:29 PM
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Nah they just write that off as "internalized misogyny" or some shit. Basically claiming that those women couldn't help themselves or had no control over what they want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/21 07:56 PM
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What's funny is when that nasty recession hit back in 2008 or so and the vast majority of job losses were suffered by men no fuck was given about us and Obama for some odd reason still chose to focus relief efforts on women instead of men. But now this time around women are primarily affected and suddenly its a crisis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/21 05:54 PM
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Except to sweep it over with the usual "sexism", "misogyny", "toxic masculinity" buzzwords just to get the street cred of supporting women. What they will not touch is the fact that his mother was abusive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/21 05:51 PM
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Can you comprehend that there are people who don't care for the safety of men and are willing to disregard the safety of men if it means getting more support for women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/21 08:13 PM
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It's one of those empty assertions that's just declared and because the dominant narrative wants it to be true it becomes true no matter who big the mountain of evidence that shows otherwise. Kinda like people who still say that women make 75 cents per man's dollar for the same work even though that claim was disproven years ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/21 08:09 PM
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But point out that they are men as well as black will get you accused of racism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/21 02:41 AM
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I suppose it compares with how women/feminists argue that men being less likely to be raped is a privilege. (Yes I know its contested if women really are more likely to be raped but that doesn't matter for the purposes of this comment.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 08:29 PM
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Wow I didn't know either of those things had happened. That's definitely messed up and definitely gendered. Amazing that these never come up when talking about justice issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 08:08 PM
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Some woke types are already trying to say that gay people are the white men of the LGBT community. Which completely ignores the fact that homophobia has almost exclusively been targeted towards gay men instead of lesbian women. Both in history and today. They actually try to pull that same game among people of color as well. There the going line is "black men are the white people of black people". The premise being that black men want access to the privileges of being white rather for themselves…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 08:05 PM
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Agreed. Trying to claim "when X affects one its really hatred of Y" is just a distraction. Feminists had a real good opportunity to do some of that support for men they are always bragging about and brought together how misogyny and misandry are often related. But they largely decided to go the other way and just declare that misandry is not real and everything is misogyny. But then wonder why men are tripping over themselves to side with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/21 02:08 PM
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Something I've noticed when feminists try to argue that misandry is actually misogyny is that they do so by trying to change the focus from men/masculine in order to reframe it as being about women/femininity. For example some feminists try to claim that homophobia against gay men is really about misogyny because it hatred of gay men embracing things that are associated with femininity. The problem is they are changing the focus from who is being attacked to why they are being attacked. Notice t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 01:50 AM
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"I'm not sure if she did anything illegal by blaming the kid for stealing her phone. Did she file a false police report or anything?" I'd have to look for it but I think the issue is that she actually assaulted the kid trying to confront him over her phone. Like chase him down and started a physical confrontation. So there might be an argent that she assured him in her process of accusing him.
/r/MensRights09/01/21 01:18 PM
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The problem is, these insecure women somehow get a pass because they genuinely feel upset. I've even seen the men get the brunt of the criticism for "making her feel this way" by simply saying no. They get a pass because they are women. Being upset in and of itself has nothing to do with it. I'm sure there are plenty of men who are genuinely upset when they want to have sex but their partner does not. It's gender. ​ We depict this kind of behavior as manipulative, skeezy and gross. When done by …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/21 08:31 PM
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Agreed on this. Let's be frank people who oppose the MRM largely do so by ignoring everything positive or neutral the MRM has to say until they can find that one negative thing and blow it out of proportion. Make them work for it by not giving them an opening. Honestly I think the best way to get things going is to not even mention feminism from the outset. That put them in the position of disrupting an attempt at supporting men by forcing them to bring up feminism. And you know they will. Inevi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/21 08:21 PM
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https://people.com/crime/woman-arrested-falsely-accusing-black-teen-stealing-phone/
/r/MensRights08/01/21 08:15 PM
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I have to say this is disgusting. And just as disgusting is the fact that the "hatred of men isn't a big deal" crowd as well as a lot of other progressives have been dead ass silent on this. You can tell where they're loyalties really lie. They are the ones that were up in arms when Heard first accused Depp and declared he was guilty but once proof of Heard's actions came to light they went silent. This is the Duke Lacrosse saga all over again. When Mangum accused those athletes people called fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/20 08:29 PM
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Yeah who identifies as a man isn't anywhere near being important. The issues around being male that people want to change relate to the experiences of being male. Someone that transitioned to male at some later point will have different experiences than someone that was born male but that doesn't mean they are any less of a male or that they somehow don't get to be male. Being a male is something I'm particularly proud of because I've endured many of the challenges and hardships that it entails.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/20 01:22 PM
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And the reason they do it is because they have seen for YEARS that women have manage to gain rights for themselves by fighting against men and reacting to what they perceive men to have. It's been shown that women benefit from downplaying the plights of men. It's a very temping path to take but like addressing racism (as in black people can't do what past white people did to end racism) it ultimately won't work. Mostly because in terms of gender women are already perceived as the eternal victim …
/r/MensRights17/12/20 08:55 PM
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This is what I came here to say. The discussion point should be, "Why isn't there a similar concern for men and boys knowing well that many of them go into the the criminal life because they see no other way out and/or they are groomed by older gang members?"
/r/MensRights17/12/20 01:26 PM
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I honestly think both need to be better on not being so quick to dismiss the issues that the other is dealing with. These days it's so common for people one side to do whatever they can to silence, dismiss, insult, or attack the other for saying anything that goes against their narratives of choice. Both men and women would do well to improve on listening to the other. Not just listen to pass judgement, listen to just enough to think of some dismissive insult or sick burn, or listen while coming…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/20 05:48 PM
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I would say this is a bad comparison. Trump and Cheney weren't dodging the draft as a way to protest sexist policy. They did it because they are hypocritical cowards that support war as long as they don't have to go fight in it. I would saw a more fitting comparison would be how when men speak on the sexism of Selective Service its met with cries that Selective Service isn't a problem because there hasn't been an actual draft for a long time. The comparison being when women speak out against sex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/20 05:43 PM
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Not only that but in the end the school ended up changing the rules on student organization specifically to limit/prevent men's organizations from forming at the school.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/20 01:15 AM
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Simple. The logic is, "I don't like MRAs, I don't like Nazis, therefore MRAs are Nazis and I can use the labels just as interchangeably saying 'six' or 'half dozen''.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/20 06:59 PM
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Because Wiki is dominated by feminist thought which means by definition they are against anything that helps or supports men unless they have control of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/20 06:47 PM
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You're definitely better off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/20 06:43 PM
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Very solid work!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/20 01:43 PM
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And it feel on deaf ears.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/20 01:40 PM
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It's simple. I agree that the ends don't justify the means. However that doesn't mean the ends were wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/20 01:11 AM
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I said did good not did perfect. They have done good in the form of helping abused women get help, contributed to getting women into higher education, their own voting rights.... Like I say I am not trying to act like feminism is some perfect movement that has never done anything wrong. But I don't think its fair act like they have done 0 good. Yes a lot of that good was done at the expense of men but that just means the suffering of men needs to stop not that the good for women needs to be roll…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 09:30 PM
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I wonder how hard they would be crying if the roles were reversed. Lets say, for instance, that r/MGTOW or r/theredpill became the dominant ideology and there was a widely believed stereotype that all women are hypergamous gold-diggers (AWALT), and then any time a woman pointed out that she doesn't act that way, people pilloried her for it? They'd be pissed, and rightfully so. It's funny how some people are only cable of recognizing bigotry when its their group being attacked. It doesn't even ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 09:01 PM
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They really have left a trail of rightfully angry men (and even women) in their wake. Problem is they are so self righteous that they refuse to even consider the possibility that they have some responsibility in why those people are angry with them. That movement has done a lot of good and has a lot more good to do but they only make it harder for themselves by taking pleasure in angering men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:41 PM
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Why only men have the responsibility to create a safe environment ? i Collective responsibility. Which for some reason is only ever cast on men. Unless someone can think of a persistent example of feminists saying women are collectively responsible for something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:19 PM
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To me the bigger question, and this is something feminists themselves can actually work on instead of just blaming men, is why do feminists only want to have conversations about terrible men. Think about it like this. How many feminist think pieces have been written about masculinity using Donald Trump ( or some random guy that committed a crime against a woman) as a jumping point? How many feminist think pieces have been written about masculinity using Daryl Davis (or some random non feminist g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:17 PM
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Look I know The Guardian isn't the most male friendly space but I'm a bit of a fan of Iman Amrani. She doesn't just sit and lecture men on what we need to do in order to be better allies for women she actually listens to men. She listens to how men are feeling, how they are doing, and what they are doing to fix themselves up for their own sake.
/r/MensRights30/11/20 02:59 PM
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It's clear. There is simply no concern for men. It doesn't even require comparing how men are treated to how women are treated to see this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/20 05:44 AM
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At this point it seem patriarchy theory as used by modern feminism is just a way to claim the system benefits men (despite the vast majority of men not getting these benefits but that's another story...) in order to use that as "proof" that sexism against men does not and cannot exist. Or at least soften the blow with the concept of "patriarchy hurts men too". Also See: Toxic masculinity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/20 04:37 AM
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What bugs me about instances like this isn't so much the discrimination itself its the feminist enablers and defenders that will trip over themselves to swear up and down that not all feminiats are like that, such feminism isn't "real" feminism, that it's not representative of feminism, or quote generic feminist values as if that somehow prices the discrimination wasn't done in the name of feminism/women. Shit is happening. It's being done by influential ones. Just saying you never heard of that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/20 04:34 AM
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Not sure about your definition of a circle jerk but good luck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/20 06:16 AM
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Those two specific instances are bad. I agree. But it doesn't really relate to what I said, that both sides can benefit from changes for either side. You don't think college men having support groups doesn't benefit women? And as for the rape in India I'd like to think feminists could see that women would benefit from men who able to get help when they need it. Maybe if they find justice it prevents resent towards women. I get the impression that you're trying to argue with someone you think I a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/20 05:27 AM
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But as we see only certain conclusions are being deplatformed. For all the supposed misogyny and antifeminists the MRM is drenched in we don't see them trying to get journals to take down study results they don't like. Sure they'll get made about them but that's the most that ever happens. On the other hand feminists will try to get people fired for reporting results they don't like. I agree trying to test who makes better doctors, lawyers, bosses, etc.... is pointless. But on the larger scale o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/20 04:24 AM
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Framing men's rights as men's rights has been shown not to work either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/20 04:20 AM
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As for men getting a side benefit of changes for women. Yes, I agree. That was sort of my point. Women would also, as an aside, get benefits from changes for men. We have to change things different for men and women because we're in different places. Yes women would benefit from changes for men. But again focusing on making changes for the sake of men is seen as an inherently bad thing in a lot of cases. Men and women are in different places therefore different changes need to be made. And it al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/20 04:19 AM
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Why did she do it? http://themoroccantimes.com/2020/04/23583/sofia-taloni-explains-why-she-outed-the-lgbt-community-in-morocco “In all honesty, I did not want to out them, but they started this war. The Moroccan gay community shared my profile on many Facebook groups and were encouraging people to report me so that my account gets deactivated,” she said. “They wanted to get me killed, sharing my account with religious radical groups and telling them ‘Hey you guys, this guy is destroying our Isla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/20 10:56 PM
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And history shows just how much damage Hitler did with those methods.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/20 10:51 PM
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I do see the changing of norms for women necessarily meaning the changing of norms for men. Though, I have to be completely honest, I see no downsides for men here. If the changes were for the benefit of men for their own sake I would agree but that's not the case. Feminists have pushed for more better access to childcare for white working class women. That benefits men as well as there is less expectation for them to be the breadwinner. Now, there will be a bunch of traditionalists on both side…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/20 10:49 PM
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Whether men or women are better in any of these situations isn't really relevant to anyone and if it were significant than it wouldn't take significant deep research to uncover. If that's the case then why are there only ever calls to get rid of results and findings that show men are better than women in situations? I don't see any uproar to depublish or get rid of results that show women being better than men in situations. Personally I agree that trying to figure out who is better or who is wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/20 10:40 PM
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I'd say slight anger. Not really enough to complain or yell at anyone but a bit of anger. That anger comes from the fact that in one breath women brag about how stupid men are to pay women for such content but in the next will complain when it's pointed out that sex work/OnlyFans is a great revenue stream. Some women want to have their cake and eat it too in the form wanting to be seen as poor oppressed victims that can't catch a break and have life harder than anyone else while at the same time…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/20 10:32 PM
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The focus here is that this is yet another father being denied something simple, in this case something as simple as being listed as the father on the birth certificate.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 03:59 AM
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... the incoming Biden administration likely won't be good for men. Which is OP's point. Stay on target this is about how Biden won't be helpful not how harmful Trump is/would be. There are a million places to have that conversation this isn't one of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/20 04:57 PM
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Simple when it comes to due process (and a lot of other things) men don't count as people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/20 01:32 PM
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I'm betting he will eaithee slide something through while dealing with COVID or once COVID is dealt with it will become one of his next priorities. It's just a matter of when....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/20 05:23 AM
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I see a fear among male advocates and especially leftist male advocates to be even in the slightest way associated with PUA's or MGTOWs or incels or traditionalists or 'biological determinists' whatever that may be, or rightists in general, instead of acknowledging all these groups are there for a reason and can have members that have something to tell. And it doesn't help that even when someone speaks up for men and distances themselves from those types of groups feminists will come along and o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/20 08:11 PM
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Yeah that's not true. MensLib isn't about mens rights its more feminist approved support for men. Simply put questioning feminism is pretty much forbidden there and if the dominant ideology can't be questioned then there isn't much meaningful discussion to be had.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/20 08:06 PM
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Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots, because it's OK to be a boy, but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading. I always ask anyone that throws this out a question, "If that's the case then why are "butch" presenting lesbians insulted for how they look?" Usually what I get in return is something to the effect of how then it's not about it not being okay for a woman to be a guy (or look like a guy) but its all ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/20 07:54 PM
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"People claim that women not being subjected to the draft is an example of female privilege, but the reason they’re not subjected to it is because the men making those rules don’t think women are fit for combat" Applying to Domestic Violence reveals a problem. Feminists and women's advocates have made great strides in creating systems of support and aid for women and even getting laws passed. And what did they do with that influence? They have spent decades crafting narratives, models, and a few…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/20 07:48 PM
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Meanwhile movies like Annihilation and it's mostly female lead cast were just fine. But sadly didn't get the same attention. And I think it's because movies that are female lead but don't trash men, don't put women on a pedestal for just being women, or women that are "bad" only because a man made them that way don't get the same push as ones that do from feminists.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 03:23 PM
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I think its a crock of shit. It's basically arguing "Since A happens more than B, A should be treated harshly and B and should treated leniently."
/r/MensRights13/10/20 03:18 PM
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First and foremost this person is doing that thing where they force two things that they don't like together because of some remotely similar tangent. The MRM has nothing to do with why men have it hard in certain metrics. This is about like saying you don't like The Last of Us 2 and you don't like Tomb Raider therefore you don't like The Last of Us 2 because of Tomb Raider and it accepted by the choir because they are both video games and they already didn't like Tomb Raider. The point is to as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/20 08:02 PM
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Don't give in to their id pol. They do that because of a constant need to have a designated enemy to be the victim of (I'm very curious who they will go after next, transgender men would be my guess).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 02:43 PM
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I wouldn't say that men do all the work. I'd certainly agree that the work men put into dating is downplayed for the sake of making the work women put into it look much harder than it really is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 02:41 PM
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While that sounds nice how much of an online presence did they really have? How much of an effect does winning a hashtag fight on the Proud Boys? It's not like they are going to disband because they lost an internet slap fight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/20 03:59 PM
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It would be one thing if she had a wild sexual past and was honest about saying it was none of his business. However she lied about her sexual past. That's a breach of trust.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 12:18 PM
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While appreciate that Trump won't just lay down and roll over for whatever women tell him to do in pretty much every other metric that man is a nightmare of a president and he will not do any other actual good for men. At best Trump won't stand for womens groups just waltzing into Capital Hill and expecting to be given every antimale measure they want at the drop of a hat. But that is like putting a bandaid on a leaking damn it won't actually fix things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/20 06:57 PM
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"Most violence is committed by men." Counter: "The vast majority of men are not violent so why focus on men in general instead of specifically violent men?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/20 06:51 PM
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Yep. If "defend feminism" and "support men" come at odds with each other that community will choose "defend feminism" every time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/20 10:15 AM
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Yes when I listed the different types of men over there I firmly the mods are part of that mix as well. I won't say the blame rests entirely on the mod team but they do certainly share a portion of that blame.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/20 10:13 AM
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That place can be an enigma sometimes. But frankly I think that place is a mix of well meaning guys that truly do want to help men, men who are lost and will accept just about anything cleverly disguised as help, men who pretty much hate men, and men that think the approval of women is all that men should look forward to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/20 04:27 PM
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Honestly if I were you I'd go to the media. Try to find a news channel, journalist, or someone that would be willing to tell your story on a platform for people to see.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 12:12 PM
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Men would finally be at peace? No seriously I think women would probably celebrate it as a lot of them would see it as their biggest dream come true.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 12:09 PM
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At this point I'm no longer convinced its a misconception. Mind you by "misconception" I'm talking unintentional. Make no mistake the fact that feminists and women try so hard to frame the MRM as divorced fathers and "incel" (where incel is just now a generic catchall that means "man that says/does/thinks something I don't like"). It's full on intentional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 12:31 PM
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That writer sounds like the kind of guy that is all for women/girls having their own spaces away from men/boys but also thinks men/boys having separate spaces away from girls/women is inherently sexist and wrong and should not exist (UNLESS they get permission from women/feminists and are subject to oversight and veto by women/feminists).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 12:29 PM
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I think that happens because men like that actually build their identity around being against all parts of traditional masculinity. They think "being one of the the good ones" is a personality trait.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 12:26 PM
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Thanks! I didn't even realize today was Cake Day on my account. (I didn't see the Cake Day icon until after I saw your comment.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 12:23 PM
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I think men go one way or the other based on how they come to understand the issues that men face and how we are treated by society. To me feminism and the MRM both recognize that men are mistreated by society and want to fix those things but differ in the initial assessment of how things came to be how they are (which of course influences how those things can be fixed). Men drawn to feminism seem to come to the conclusion, one way or another, that men themselves are the problem. As in men are g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 04:46 AM
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I find this to be true. In a lot of tv shows unhappy middle aged men are portrayed as having made bad choices that fucked their lives up while unhappy middle aged women are portrayed as having bad circumstances happen to them (often the bad choices of a middle age man she was involved with). As a result we get a lot of tv stories lines about an unhappy middle age man that "needs to grow up" or "step up" or "man up" or whatever the kids say these days v an unhappy middle age woman that "finally d…
/r/MensRights25/09/20 07:27 PM
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Real talk if today's feminists were half the caliber of RBG was we'd all be better off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/20 12:31 PM
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Even if the disadvantages are acknowledged, in a limited way, the origin of that problem is also put back on maleness and therefore the solution is still to tear it down. That's usually the tactic. In the event that a disadvantage that primarily targets males is acknowledged its done in a very brief manner with clear indication of wanting to change the subject or try to find some other identifier to point at. That's how police brutality becomes a race issue despite men being the vast majority of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/20 12:29 PM
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Who is creating these slides? They are nice and informative. Is there a social media account I can follow and start sharing these on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/20 12:25 PM
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Progressives and feminists have tried really hard to dismiss the fact that men's lives matter and one particular tactic is to dismiss it as being the gender equivalent of "all lives matter". Namely the idea that people only say that men's lives matter in an attempt to silence conversation about women's lies (but frankly if you believe this it just shows you are not seriously trying to understand men's issues and lives).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/20 04:57 PM
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I honestly think she had her mind set of retiring under the first female president. She had her money on Clinton in 2016 and when that didn't pan out she put it all on Warren in 2020 but when that didn't pan out I'm betting she was just trying to hold out long enough for a Biden win.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 11:48 AM
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Nice but I just thought of something while reading this. Look at a situation where a guy does something horrible and what often happens? We get a bunch of think pieces on how there is something wrong with men and masculinity. However when a guy does something awesome you almost never get anything similar pieces on how right masculinity is it. On the other hand how often have you seen a woman do something awesome and it get praised as it being awesome because she is a woman? But again at the same…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 05:52 AM
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Damn. When he went to prison Super Mario Bros wasn't a thing yet. When he went to prison Regan was in office. When he went to prison CNN was only 3 years old.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 02:06 AM
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I was just about to respond with this. Men are a collective when one of us does something horrible. Women are a collective when one of them does something great. Men are individual when one of us does something great. Women are individual when one of them does something horrible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 01:59 AM
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I'm not teacher (also no background in lot) but speaking as a boy that was once in school I do think they are onto something. When it comes to writing even now I have a hard time nailing down a specific plan/idea and running with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 01:56 AM
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Interesting that he seems to be unable to find any emotionally healthy male role models. It probably has to do with it being almost a bad thing to have a male character that's not some sort of monster, coward, or incompetent idiot for the sake of making the female characters look even more superior. Ben Sisko Most of the male cast of Lord of the Rings Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan Kenobi
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 12:31 AM
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For real. It's amazing how expecting feminists to practice what they preach is consider antifeminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 12:13 AM
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I think if prove really listened to others and their positions instead of just going by identities and labels we'd be better off. These days people believe narrative instead of to listening to others and as a result it's believed that anti abortion is entirely white, conservative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 05:45 PM
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A few questions. If the things that are labeled toxic masculinity are supposed to be behaviors and idea that harm men then why aren't they called sexism or internalized misandry? If the goal is to help and support men then why go through the trouble of labeling the supposed bad parts of masculinity and having a million conversations about them instead of labeling the supposed good parts of masculinity and having a million conversations about those? How is it that the "focus on the positive rathe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 06:13 PM
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Ah sorry taking so long to reply. I believe the thing with me is the use of the concept of privilege. From the way feminists and women sling that term around privilege seems to suffer from concept creep aka the definition is made overbroad so that more things can be called a privilege. That's why was wanting to know what privileges were in question. If you have the time I think it would be interesting to see what privileges you would list out. (On a side note with the say the term is used it see…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 07:53 PM
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Which is there catch all. They will reframe an issue until it fits the conclusion they have already decided on. That conclusion is "patriarchy hurts men too" which is their way of acknowledging things that harm men without calling them sexism/oppression because they have reserved those terms or women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 07:08 PM
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To the privileged, an even playing field feels like oppression. A lot of women refuse to acknowledge the things guys face because they think doing so somehow dismisses what women face. They are too focused on women having it worse in ever metric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 06:46 PM
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The argument being made isn't that men are losing privileges, just that other people are gaining privileges and becoming equal to them. And the quip is that when those once privileged people become equal with minorities they think they are the ones being oppressed. The quip is stating that men are in a privileged position and other people are becoming equal. If other people are "becoming equal" to men then what was it that men supposedly had that put them in a position above other people in the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 12:24 PM
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Honestly I think they realize it but either don't care or actually want to reinforce gender norms whenever it suits them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/20 08:58 PM
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Your comment is the truest TLDR of this post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/20 12:54 PM
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I honestly think you're being polite in saying hamstrings. It's more like a scapegoat or crutch. "But we live in a patriarchy!" and similar arguments is a catch all excuse to not address men's issues unless its' being done in a way that feminists approve of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 08:12 PM
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I think the airline in that case was British air and if I recall in the end it was settled for an undiscolsed amount.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 08:52 PM
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I have to agree with the framing here. If men outperform women its declared that sexism is afoot but if women outperform women then that's just how things are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 08:51 PM
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Intentional mismatch. They got an incel, an MRA, and a (not sure how to label him) v 3 feminists. If I recall during that video the guy in the thumbnail asks a question and one of the feminists responds by telling him not to speak over her experiences. Someone asking you a question is the exact opposite of that but okay. Someone on the production side of this channel chose to favor feminism over the MRM and it really shows.
/r/MensRights23/07/20 02:13 PM
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Eh feminists were the worst ones about giving such a response. Thanks but no thanks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 10:34 AM
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Not just my own suicidal feelings but talking about male suicide in general as well. Also I didn't say the only replies I got were "well that's just toxic masculinity" I said I've gotten that response alot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:30 AM
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It's okay. Getting banned from there is almost a rite of passage for anyone that actually wants to help men and won't shy away from criticism of women and/or feminists. I want to believe they have their hearts in the right place but sometimes it's quite clear that they will always pick defending feminism over support for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 12:05 AM
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That the people making those posts are just trying to get attention and are being willfully ignorant. It's easy to think men are in on the conversation when you start with the assumption that they aren't there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 12:00 AM
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Lucky that you consider this to be hypothetical. I've lived it too many times to have that luxury.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 11:58 PM
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Even if they don't stop using such terms I think they could help things along in 2 ways. You know how feminists are so quick to say to the effect of, "If a woman tells a man something is sexist, don't argue against it just listen and take it into consideration."? Well feminists should really practice what they preach. If they do 1 then the next thing to do is "not get defensive" but to listen to the commentary and work to adjust their arguments. And this doesn't necessarily mean stop using the t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:47 PM
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The Woke hate PUA for 2 reasons. PUA CAN possibly lead to bolstering horrible attitudes towards women. The thing is though those attitudes seem to already be held by the people with them so I'm not sure if PUA itself causes these horrible attitudes. PUA despite the attitudes it may bolster, seems to work. And frankly the Woke fucking hate the idea that there is something out there that actually allows men to get over on women. Oh they have no problem with women getting over on men and getting wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:43 PM
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You may wanna save your energy. stayinspired1462 has spent the last several weeks searching for reddit posts related to this Izu situation and spamming copy/pasted responses to people that show support for Izu.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:39 PM
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Because that's exactly what it is. If you look it responding to them that way is to the letter (just swap genders) exactly what they would say about men who complain about or criticize the concept of mansplaining.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:34 PM
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Its both. The specific combination of white and woman. When you put those together you get the demographic that is least likely to be mistreated by authority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:32 PM
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Someone on a discord im a part of recently said this about this very subject: "But seriously the real reason that we don't have a male equivalent of Karen is that negative qualities are allowed to be generalised to all men. You don't need a label for a specific type of entitled man because you can just call all men entitled. You can't do that to women you need to define a minority of women in order to make any criticism." Simply put there is no need to come up with a male equivalent for "subset …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:29 PM
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Eh I'd say its more internalized misandry. And that's not a dig at the use of "toxic masculinity" I just think internalized misandry is a more fitting term. Men internalize this idea that pointing how we are mistreated is an inherently bad thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:20 PM
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Why? Because of the unfortunate nature of manhood. As men we are taught that acting as if adversity does not exist is a defining part of manhood. This goes right in line with the "Don't cry", "Asking for help is for wimps", "Don't waste time complaining about being treated unfairly just do something about it.".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:17 PM
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I have to say I've noticed attitudes along this line before. It's almost like such progressive communities think that by including gay men and transgender men to a limited extent they can redefine masculinity to their own tastes, cisgender and hetero men be damned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 02:14 PM
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I think dealing with the terminology and the way it's used actually will in the long run pave the way towards working on men's issues. Yes I'm basically saying that terms like "fragile masculinity" and "toxic masculinity", especially the way they are used in many cases, interferes with the supposed conversations around men's issues. For example when bringing up male suicide and you get a bunch of responses that say no more than "That's just toxic masculinity." it not only adds nothing to the con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 01:25 PM
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::Laughs in Resident Evil::
/r/MensRights21/07/20 12:04 AM
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To clarify he doesn't actually write for Good Men Project. He just has an arrangement for GMP to republish his content on GMP.
/r/MensRights03/07/20 12:29 PM
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Wait did she herself actually rape/assault the victims? I know she is accused of grooming and "gathering" them but if you're calling her a pedophile that sounds like you're saying she was also assaulting and raping the victims.
/r/MensRights03/07/20 12:15 PM
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I often find myself arguing in favour of trans rights on social media, and one of the ways that these arguments are dismissed is by calling trans advocates 'MRAs' or alleging there's some unholy allegiance between trans rights activists and men's rights activists. That's odd to me. Odd because the way progressives tell it MRAs hate transgender people and won't touch transgender issues with a ten foot pole. Not true mind you but that's the going narrative that's built up as an excuse to dismiss M…
/r/MensRights03/07/20 12:11 PM
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Mind you that was a specific circumstance surrounding the death of Kobe and his daughter. If youre able to look you'll see the #girldad tag popped up at the time they died so it's not like it just appeared ok Father's Day
/r/MensRights22/06/20 08:56 AM
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I'd recommend staying away from MensLib as it is just a feminist subreddit made to corral men's issues into a neat little contained space that follows their narrative. Seconded. Some of them have their heart in the right place but the unspoken golden rule around there is basically if "supporting men" ever comes at odds with "defend feminism" MensLibbers will pick "defend feminism" Every. Single. Time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 02:52 PM
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Trying to compare doesn't do anyone any good. Only pain lies in that direction.
/r/MensRights11/06/20 02:05 AM
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I think it's a bit more specific. In that it's not just concern for men and boys that will get you labeled AltRight but specifically concern for men and boys AND talking about it or doing something about it outside of progressivism/feminism. In fact I'd say the "outside of progressivism/feminism is the bigger part". People in those movements don't just pride themselves on just working on issues a lot of them sincerely think they OWN those issues and are the only correct option to address them. B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 12:22 PM
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Honestly it's an uphill battle to try to directly challenge such hashtags. The problem is directly challenging them makes you look bad regardless of actually being right to challenge them.
/r/MensRights06/06/20 02:20 AM
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Start by asking them what they mean by toxic masculinity. I've noticed a lot of people who throw that term around either cannot or will not define it. If that happens you're wasting your time even talking to them. If they actually give a definition ask for examples. Then ask why those examples are toxic masculinity instead of sexism/misandry/oppression.
/r/MensRights06/06/20 02:16 AM
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Just an airhead. A feminist that wants to sink their tentacles into another movement in order to eventually co opt it and take it over.
/r/MensRights06/06/20 02:04 AM
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I think it's on life support but I will gladly help them finish it off.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 10:03 PM
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I think the first step is earning the trust of men to let them know their experiences matter. The thing is for the most part men don't have the luxury to speak up on those experiences like women do (no I'm not saying women are 100% free to talk about their assault experiences, I'm saying they have more room than men). I think it may be worth a two prong approach. Create spaces for men where they know they can safely speak up. Encourage men to speak up knowing full well it's not safe for them to …
/r/MensRights05/06/20 09:58 PM
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I've not seen this, except from non-black people. I guess that's your experience and that's not your fault so I can't hold it against you.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 12:50 PM
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I didn't say that non black women don't do the "men ain't shit" thing tho...
/r/MensRights05/06/20 12:49 PM
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Some of them mean well but frankly they are blinded by their devotion to feminism. In the event that "Defend feminism" ever conflicts with "Support men" they will tie themselves in knots to claim they are doing both but in the end they will defend feminism Every. Single. Time.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 06:40 AM
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After seeing time and time again that support be pulled away the moment a black men does some horrible shit. I hate to sound so aggressive but it really sounds like you think black women should be given a free pass on their negative behavior just because they do at times support black men. I just almost never see that consideration extended to black men.
/r/MensRights05/06/20 06:32 AM
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If we present ourselves as allies for equality in this fight, we can hopefully make people a little more likely to hear us out in the future on some of the other issues we talk about. That won't work as things are now because the people that want us to be allies make that alliance conditional on something. Putting advocacy thats specifically meant to help men is put on the back burner. If it can be mixed with another demographic then it might get some priority but there is definitely an air of "…
/r/MensRights05/06/20 06:30 AM
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Black Lives Matter can reasonably be called a de facto men's rights movement, or at least a black men's rights movement, fueled largely by women as well as men. Black women victims need more attention. I'm not sure about that. Because while black women do support black men it's pretty clear that the support is more us being black than us being men. The support for black men often comes in the form of only valuing our blackness while still treating our maleness like it's some sort of sickness rig…
/r/MensRights05/06/20 06:25 AM
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Looking back at the last few high profile cases I think the difference has largely been that Ahmed Aubrey and George Floyd were killed in broad daylight, on video, and Floyd was killed in front of multiple witnesses besides the person recording. On the other hand Breonna Taylor and Arianna Jefferson were killed at night in a private residence with no video so it turns into arguing over different perspectives. Or to look at another issue for another possible answer. Sexual assault. Why is it that…
/r/MensRights05/06/20 06:18 AM
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If we want to strive for gender equality, we must first strive for racial equality for all males. The ultimate goal is both gender equality and racial equality. What I'd like to know is why is it okay to look out specifically for women even when other factors apply like race or sexual orientation but it is not okay to specifically look out for men even when other factors apply like race or sexual orientation. In a conversation about female sexual assault victims if someone pointed out that black…
/r/MensRights03/06/20 12:51 PM
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If it were all men being the target of police murder, white men, Asian men, and black men would all have similar death rates, but that’s not the case now is it. But it is the case that in each race men are likely to be killed than the women of that race. Stop trying to use the racism as an excuse to ignore the sexism. Frankly speaking there are a thousand conversations out there on the racial aspects of this and while glad they are happening there is clearly more to it than race. But even if you…
/r/MensRights03/06/20 11:10 AM
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Nothing to do with what I brought up. That's why I specified that I was NOT talking about BLM.
/r/MensRights03/06/20 11:03 AM
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Hell the MRA gets treated like terrorists anyway. Even when they denounce the actions of the likes of Elliot Rodger critics of the MRM will still go out of the way to smear them as being part of the MRM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 10:26 PM
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Disagree. MRAs have looked at these issues from the male perspective for years. And for years they were dismissed as hating women, hating people of color, and hating any other demographic that might relate to a given issue. Frankly MRAs have been years ahead of the likes of BLM and feminists on this. Even now it's hard to bring up how sentencing disparity affects men more than women without being called a racist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 10:23 PM
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It's not about "making it equally damaging for men as it is for women" but "actually exploring how damaging it is for men rather just assessing it as close to harmless as possible because they aren't women".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 10:53 AM
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As long as their support for men isn't conditional on some bullshit like, "Helping men prevent violence against women" or some shit then I'm all for it because there are actually some decent feminists out there.
/r/MensRights02/06/20 06:46 AM
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Agreed. Pretending racism doesn't exist is a surefire way to alienate men of color.
/r/MensRights02/06/20 06:02 AM
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Men and especially white men speaking up about inequality is very frowned upon. Not just frowned upon but a rather complex framework has been built that makes it look like men don't suffer any inequalities to speak of. Also bear in mind that the framework itself directly benefits from keeping men silent. Unlike most other groups of people men have been indoctrinated to believe that the oppression they suffer isn't just a necessity, but is actually something to be applauded. Think about the idea …
/r/MensRights01/06/20 01:04 PM
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I hope not. I don't see any misogynistic posts here only actual problems men face. Yet many criticise it as sexist or misogynistic for speaking the truth. Bare in mind who is speaking those criticisms. Its usually people who benefit from keeping men silent or at least limiting how men speak up. In short they are motivated to complain about this place and thus over over exaggerate even valid criticism for their own gain. Also: what is your opinion on homosexuality? ​ As for homosexuality its just…
/r/MensRights09/02/20 08:44 PM
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Considering this post is over a month old and nowhere near the top of the subreddit in terms of upvotes I'd bet you had already made up your mind on what you were going to say and then just went looking for a post to say it. Congrats for resurrecting a month old post to add absolutely nothing.
/r/MensRights07/02/20 01:53 PM
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They don't need to. Those guys are working just fine.
/r/MensRights16/01/20 02:12 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were asked to leave that task to the men. To the men building that casket they likely felt it was a ritual. Men gathering to perform one last task for one of their own to see him off to the next life. Honestly I'm surprised those women were even there in the first place. That was male bonding at its finest.
/r/MensRights16/01/20 02:10 PM
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Don’t worry, we are not like r/MensLib - in fact the r/MensLib mods have refused to promote us. That alone makes it worth at least taking a look at. Those folks over there can't stand the idea that supporting men can be done outside of feminism.
/r/MensRights10/01/20 03:38 AM
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I understand the sentiment (and frankly it exists and isn't too hard to find) but seriously let's lay off the doom and gloom.
/r/MensRights08/01/20 01:47 PM
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First of all you've given too much benefit of the doubt thinking a woman would actually be convicted of raping even 100 men. But seriously let's lay off the doom and gloom.
/r/MensRights08/01/20 01:46 PM
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Note the "/s" at the end of the comment. That is a common short hand to indicate sarcasm. The person above does not seriously mean that comment (even though that is a sentiment that exists and isn't too terribly hard to find).
/r/MensRights08/01/20 01:45 PM
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My response to that is usually along the lines of, "So we're supposed to let the male victims pile up without getting help while we focus solely on those male perps? Do you feel the same about female victims?". In short the point is to bring up why did they shift from focusing on the victim to focusing on the perp when the original topic was support/help for the victim.
/r/MensRights31/12/19 03:14 PM
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Took me about 5min of searching but I found the article that that tweet likely linked to. https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamedjackson/dababy-nudes-allegedly-leaked-online It's clearly been edited since that tweet was made that you screenshot. So maybe this is a sign they know they should be saying such shit?
/r/MensRights24/12/19 07:35 AM
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This is one of those times where someone saying such a statement says a lot more about them than it says about the people they are talking about. Most topics are inherently neutral and would require hearing someone's thoughts on them in order to even think about whether they are a shitty person or not. The person who tweeted that is extremely insecure about their position on those topics so they are puffing their chest out in an effort to sound like some end all be all authority on them. They wa…
/r/MensRights20/12/19 08:26 PM
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Donated. The help and support have to start somewhere.
/r/MensRights20/12/19 02:46 PM
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Yeah things are going down hill around here. I think its largely because the mentality of "well if people are gonna be shitty towards us then we may as well be shitty towards them" has really taken a strong hold here. Ive notice a fair amount of posts around here are misleading if not outright lying just for the purpose of stirring up rage. I think it may be time for the mods to start enforcing Rule 2 a little more sternly.
/r/MensRights20/12/19 03:23 AM
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I usually see it used in one of two ways A generic catch all for "anything about men that I don't like" A way to reframe sexism against men/boys, misandry, and oppression of men/boys to make those thing appear to be self inflicted by men themselves in order pretend they are not institutional and/or pretend that women have no bearing on them.
/r/MensRights29/08/19 04:40 AM
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So you're saying the only thing that kept her from raping those kids was not have a dick? Because having a dick makes someone rape others? GTFO.
/r/MensRights29/08/19 04:34 AM
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What kind of generic apology was that? Also it would be nice if men who make similar remarks about girls were treated as kindly. Because let's be real if a male host had said something like that about a girl playing football there would be a campaign to get him fired from the show and he would be hounded until he couldn't find a job hosting news.
/r/MensRights28/08/19 03:58 PM
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Only explanation for the difference I can think of, but isn't mentioned, is that the woman literally only filmed what was going on but did not actually rape the children herself.
/r/MensRights28/08/19 03:54 PM
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Is there a TLDR? That vid is over 40min.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/19 03:47 PM
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I'd REALLY appreciate it if Feminist Critics came back around. They offered a criticism of feminism that is needed now more than ever. Feministe and Feministing were garbage fires that needed to die so good riddance. Never really hung around Hoyden About Town so can't speak on it. I do miss Toy Soldiers. And Good Men Project as far as I can tell has gone to a model where you have to pay to subscribe in order to comment. But frankly the place is on the way to becoming another Feministing anyway. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/19 03:46 PM
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I honestly just commented that ESH. Her for dismissing his risks of exposure and being greedy with the footage. Him for sneaking a copy behind her back. As for frightening attitudes yes that place is pretty scary and that's not the first time people have just sided with the woman over the guy just because she is a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 04:03 PM
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It is obvious to them. Its why they put so much effort into denying it. Even though western societies are male dominated, in the sense that most of those in positions of power are male, people are more likely to have a positive view of women than of men. According to Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic, both men and women are more likely to assign positive characteristics to women (although women have a stronger in-group bias). Other studies have found that people automatically prefer their mothers…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/19 03:00 PM
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Probably the single most frustrating thing about feminist theory is how it is set up to be largely unfalsifiable. Which is by design. The more vaguely it is defined the easier it is to defend from criticism, the hard it is to criticize, and the easier it is to somehow justify its need. I mean if it weren't that little thing called modern medicine I bet snake oil dealers would still be making a killing these days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/19 06:36 PM
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I really hope she was trolling but I get the feeling she is not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/19 11:34 PM
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Well I guess we should be glad he didn't end up dead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/19 11:22 PM
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Thanks for digging in on this. Yeah its pretty suspicious that they focus so much effort on changing men but only after assuming that they are the perpetrators. To talk with boys and young men about healthy and equitable attitudes and relationships. I'd honestly be scared to see what their idea of talking with males about healthy attitudes and relationships is. My guess its entirely focused on what the guy needs to do in order to support the woman with no mention of how he needs to take care of …
/r/MensRights15/08/19 03:34 PM
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But remember ya'll men are the ones that are fragile......
/r/MensRights14/08/19 03:50 AM
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Maybe they are finally getting it through their fucking skulls. Good.
/r/MensRights14/08/19 03:47 AM
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As long as it doesn't get poisoned by Woke Culture and Feminism I think it might do some good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/19 03:40 PM
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Now essentially the point I would like to get from this is that the masculine role is traditionally much wider than we give it credit. I'd go as far as to say that masculinity involves many of the traits that so called thinkers and experts seem to act like are not present in masculinity. Complaints about "traditional masculinity" usually leave these behaviors and traits out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/19 03:35 PM
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White men are the sole enemy of feminism. And they really only care about non white men because they want the street cred of being known for "being against racism".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 07:53 PM
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And yeah I agree that AOC is misrepresenting Mitch McConnell. I'm not sure the "boys will be boys" line has ever been used in the way that feminists claim. It has been used that way but nowhere near as often as they claim it has.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 01:26 PM
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The controversy is that there is this idea that boys are not being held accountable for their actions. I guess for another example would you be able to see why "women shouldn't be gold diggers" would be considered controversial?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 01:06 PM
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4)Look at how feminists do things. Feminists don't just criticize the radical MRAs and hard traditionalists, who are the furthest away from feminists in their belifs. Indeed, feminists rarely bother with MRAs and tradcons. Instead, feminists have always gone straight for the center, for the mainstream. Feminists criticize (supposed) sexism of ordinary people, of typical centrist liberals, of most people out there, of society in general. They don't bother with extremes. And, guess what, it works.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 01:04 PM
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What I find interesting as well is how "things that are hamrful to..." are labeled differently between men and women. Man doesnt express his feelings? Toxic Masculinity. Woman doesn't express her feelings? Internalized misogyny. Male rape victim has a hard time getting help? Toxic Masculinity. Female rape victim has hard time getting help? Institutional sexism. Guy gets hostile with a woman that rejects him? Toxic Masculinity. Woman gets hostile with a man that rejects her? An individual woman w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/19 11:21 PM
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That woman's twitter feed is a damn mess ya'll. Most likely not even worth the effort of trying to get into it.
/r/MensRights19/07/19 08:38 PM
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That person's idea of "acknowledge gender bias" likely runs along the lines of literally rewriting history to say that men did absolutely nothing to contribute to the early space program and just stole the credit of the women who literally did all the work. ​ But seriously I'm all for setting the record straight though.
/r/MensRights19/07/19 08:28 PM
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Where do I stand? They are both fucking horrible and there is no reason to compare them. In fact in my experiences most people that even bother comparing them only do so because they want to claim one is worse than the other. Hell even a lot of people who say "the two don't compare" are only saying so because they have decided that one is worse than the other and don't want anyone trying to disagree with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/19 08:18 PM
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And homophobia. Homophobia against gay men is misogyny based on sexual orientation only. Homophobia against gay women is misogyny based on gender and sexual orientation. Somehow.....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/19 01:20 PM
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Oddly I've been banned at that reddit but I dont ever recall posting over there. Oh well. One thing I noticed is the knee jerk response of when a male victim speaks up there is an immediate rush to mass dump the experiences of women as if they want to bury the experiences of men like acknolwedging them is a tabboo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/19 03:45 AM
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The concept of toxic masculinity seems to be little more than a way to identify things that harm men in a sexist manner without using the term sexism. It's funny to watch people throw the term around and get patted on the back for it but can never explain why it can't just be called sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/19 03:34 AM
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Im not saying it only existed in the past. Sorry about the confusion I am saying that blaming conservative thinking is something like the excuse of "its always been that way". Most of the ways I disagree with feminism are based on what I see as antiquated ideas of chivalry, sex-negativity, and a biased view of agency. All of which existed before feminism, and continue to exist outside of it. But feminism utilizes those antiquated ideas when it suits. If feminism intends to address such issues on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 03:39 PM
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Then I guess its a difference in experience. I've argued against it before with no issue other than people resorting to petty and personal attacks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 12:18 PM
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The only one of those I regularly visit is the subreddit and I don't think I agree. Right wing mentality is argued against there all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 11:50 AM
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This reply video shows Zizek throw other men under the bus by falsely claiming men dominate women. In all seriousness you just answered your own question. The difference is Zizek points his finger at men and lefties are okay with that. Peterson points his finger at lefties and they don't like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 04:51 AM
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Feminism doesn't just fail to address hardships for men. Feminism seeks to take advantage of those hardships for their own purpose of keeping men silent. Trying to pin the blame on "conservative thinking" simply dismisses it by just trying to blame the past. I'll say this. Does the fact that today's men didn't create Patriarchy stop feminists from constantly trying to hold men responsible for it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 04:47 AM
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Second, to tell the mainstream MRM not to assume that we are all going to bow down to right-wing ideologies that dominate mainstream MRM today. There is an alternative now! I'm curious who you would cite as "mainstream MRM".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 04:44 AM
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While there are certainly examples of what you describe none of them happen in a scale large enough to constitute a representation of women or the state of women today. It feels like you're just taking the vague hyperbole that feminists hide behind to describe men as the oppressors (seriously I've met femininsts who talk about almost the same way you talk about women here) and just switching it. Don't be fooled by the fact that said vague hyperbole worked for feminists. Just because it worked do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 04:42 AM
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I don't think there is much question that the right isn't much better than the left when it comes to men. That's why real support for men has been lagging for so long. The left has been there to quickly pick up the causes of many other groups. Why? Because the left actually cares about those groups for their own sake. On the other hand the right generally only cares about other conservatives. Why because they only care about themselves. When they do the shit they do they don't do it for "men" or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 04:37 AM
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The fact that it comes from a biological difference doesn't make it not a privilege. Who said anything about being fun? It the "benefit" of society's distrust of men to be involved in child care. I put that in quite marks because while not literally every man sees this as a benefit a lot of men do. . I'm sure you think "LOL" is a response but it's really not. Frankly you're coming at this pretty aggressively as if you have already decided you are right no matter what. Take it easy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/19 11:36 PM
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I've gotten real world response like that to being sexually assaulted. Yes the misandry is real.
/r/MensRights16/07/19 11:31 PM
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Sure. When it comes to sex crimes men are less likely to be the targets of it. (And no I'm not saying that means men are never the victims of sex crimes. And I'm also not saying some outrageous stat like "5 out of 4 women will be sexually assaulted at some point". And I'm also not trying to deny the types of crimes where men are more likely to be the targets.) When men have children they are more able to choose work over children. (That does not mean that its Easy Street for every single man in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/19 02:16 PM
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I'm sorry man. This kind of case is something you always hear about but don't think will happen to you. ​ I would say first of all continue pursuing legal aid. Also make sure to maintain your won health. Sleep. Eating. Hygiene. Don't be afraid to occasionally work on other things. Its one thing to pursue this issue but don't let it become your entire life. And don't be scared to consider therapy (just be careful if you go looking for therapists to make sure you don't get one that's just out to b…
/r/MensRights16/07/19 02:00 PM
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While that is pretty much what feminists would say that attitude doesn't really help.
/r/MensRights16/07/19 01:56 PM
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Male privilege exists but nowhere near to the degree that its asserted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/19 08:39 PM
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True the generalizing is just a search for confirmation bias. People want to frame men as having power so they go out of the way to make it look so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/19 08:37 PM
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Why it is when I try and bring up mens issues with the average left winger, I get dismissed as a woman hating misogynist incel? My main thought is that they are afraid of someone actually getting real traction on helping men in some way that they don't have control over. They want the credit. They want the attention. They want the control. Doing good outside of their purview bothers them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/19 08:36 PM
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I have to admit I wouldn't have expected that on Everyday Feminism. But then I saw the date and realized it made since. Decent articles that touch on men are rare at that site. Damn shame
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/19 04:24 AM
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Wow I didn't realize the gap was that big. And to make things worse I've seen minor chatter arguing to lower the retirement age for women so they can retire SOONER. Meaning the gal would actually grow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/19 04:20 AM
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But there's not much attention in MRA discourse about how tradcons attack unconventionally masculine men I think that is because a lot of men that wander into the MRM tend to be more conventional. When asked MRAs will usually say they are against such treatment. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this observation would be on par with observing that femininsts are quick to speak up about how tradcons attack nonconventionally feminine women but don't say much about how feminism itself can and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/19 04:18 AM
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In those rules about insults could something be added about stressing the difference between labeling what someone said and labeling the person that said it. For example the difference between labeling what someone said was misogynist v calling the person misogynist. The former makes sense but the latter is most like just a rush to judgement to "score points".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/19 05:29 PM
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I'm all for considering what someone has to say if they are a feminist but frankly I think similar effort needs to be taken in the other direction as well. The last thing we need is yet another reddit where feminism is hailed as unquestionable gospel and questioning the gospel is a bannable offense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/19 05:25 PM
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Would he consider it to be rape if an older male teacher did the same thing with a female student? Or is he one of those hypocritical scumbags who go "Oh well it's different when it's a girl" and pretend that it's rape when a man does it to a student but not when it's a woman? ​ Im curious about that too. I wish there was more context to the bit they mention about his defense of Warren Jeffs: ​ In one 2009 radio exchange unearthed by Media Matters, Carlson defended Warren Jeffs, the cult leader …
/r/MensRights09/07/19 02:24 PM
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I was never a fan of the guy before but he can certainly go to hell now. So he claims: “Or,” he continued, “you can have a safer, albeit technically illegal outlet, with a woman who knows what she’s doing. You’re not going to hurt her feelings. You know what I mean? This is harm reduction. This is like a needle exchange.” But in the example mentioned in the article: In that instance, a 38-year-old teacher, who was married and had four children, repeatedly raped a 16-year-old student on school gr…
/r/MensRights09/07/19 12:18 PM
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That's fine. Just make sure that you aren't so dead set in your skepticism that you end up missing out on using this as a chance to show the world at large the struggles of men in a way that is not drowned in feminist buzzwords and misandry.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 09:05 PM
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We have every reason to be extremely skeptical of this. I don't think I said it was wrong to be skeptical of this. However now that you bring up skepticism I'd say don't be so quick to find an anti male conspiracy that you end up turning your back on something that actually can be helpful for men. On the other hand, the beginning of the video seems not bad at all (though that JP quote is a pretty awful one for the supposed topic). Yeah she doesn't spend much time on JP in fact she only mentions …
/r/MensRights05/07/19 09:04 PM
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That's up to her to do that. I say don't give her the time of day. Complaining about her is free publicity for her.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 01:16 PM
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Insecurity in guys is a fairly common thing. The problem its written off by society at large because "men are supposed to always be cool tough and confident". It also doesn't help that even those that claim to be against such standards have no problem invoking them when it suits them. I bet a lot of them would appreciate the kind words.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 06:06 PM
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Good to see that they are speaking up against it. But more importantly I think the fact that they are speaking up against it shows that this behavior isn't just blindly accepted as we are led to be so often. Does it happen? Yes. Do all the male ministers know? No. Does that mean they are ignoring women or are complacent in that behavior? No. What matters is what will they do now that they know.
/r/MensRights22/06/19 03:23 AM
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Tax exempt? Sure as they are literal necessity for sanitation. But free? Nope.
/r/MensRights22/06/19 03:08 AM
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It would seem that yes the admins of the group can see who reports what. One of their group rules: No Reporting If something offends you, scroll on. If it’s something the admins need to see - MESSAGE an ADMIN! If you report someone’s post instead it’s an instant block. ​ Part of the description of the group: Don't be a REPORTA-HOE; Just don't do it! Unless you want to be called out & tagged with the post/pic you reported
/r/MensRights20/06/19 03:13 PM
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Thank you for listening.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 08:16 PM
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Yeah and while I do appreciate that they are coming up more often it does suck that the MRM is not only not being acknowledged but is being actively trashed by people who are now scrambling to take over the issues like hipsters trying to get in on a trend so they can brag about being "ahead of the curve".
/r/MensRights14/06/19 07:41 PM
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Leave from jobs for fathers. Support for male victims of abuse/rape/DV. Education.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 06:46 PM
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mostly conversations and online articles. it hasn't quite worked its way into legislation yet.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:35 PM
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Its interesting how a woman that has openly trashed men for years and continues to do so is now crying victim over receiving the same kind of hostility she has wished upon men.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:11 PM
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I did some more exploring, talked with some people on-line and read this subreddit occasionally and came to the conclusion that although the MRM made some salient points regarding mens' rights (or lack thereof), the movement blamed feminists for mens' problems which, in my opinion, demonstrated a gross misunderstanding of the issues they cared about, and prevented the movement from doing any meaningful advocacy and making change. The people I talked to ranged from hard core misogynists, to anti-…
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:08 PM
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My first venture into the MRM was by reading ManBoobs. Obviously, it's not best to get your information about a movement from someone who has a bone to pick with said movement. But that's how I heard about it. Im just glad you saw the light. Seriously that guy is a waste of internet space. So my question is, it's been several years since I've talked with any MRAs. I'm curious if the movement has changed at all in the past few years (regardless of what you think of my assessment). If so, how? Do …
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:00 PM
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Now that is a valid question.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 03:37 PM
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But not 100% faithfully accurate. That's why even shows like Unsolved Mysteries put up a disclaimer saying it's a dramatization. As a warning that events are not 100% accurate. I'm all for calling bullshit when it happens I just don't think it's worth doing after a dramatization of a real event.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 11:40 PM
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For some reason people think that posting about how they got banned from r/feminism is some badge of honor or some shit. Im with you that it really doesn't mean anything in regards to this sub.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 03:37 PM
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Its not a formal documentary so I don't see a problem with it. They are free to make up whatever they want as long as they are not trying to pretend its legitimate history. And it doesn't seem they are trying to do that.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 03:36 PM
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Turns out the bill has passed and frankly I don't like it. Shit like this is just going to get used as an excuse to continue denying rights to men and keep the conversation focused on women. This bill is horrible for a lot of reasons and I don't support it.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:59 PM
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However, saying that abortion should be banned in order to make things "equal" is the totally wrong approach. This will not make things more equal and might even be harmful to men. Thing is most MRAs actually support abortion. The problem is most MRAs want similar options for men and the desire for those similar options are then framed as being against abortion by antiMRAs. I mean this post has like 13 comments and only 2 of them are against abortion and even one of them isn't against abortion j…
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:57 PM
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Agreed. One other thing I've noticed is how some will do this with stories that are over a year old. At that point the person isn't even trying to point out something specific they are just dumping rage bait and hoping to get some upvotes.
/r/MensRights14/04/19 04:59 AM
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Ah thank you I didn't even realize it was broken. That explains why it got no response. I'm gonna repost this.
/r/MensRights16/03/19 04:35 AM
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Where "grateful" means "never be critical of because it gave you everything you have today therefore it's immune to criticism". Fuck. That. Noise.
/r/MensRights28/02/19 05:39 PM
1

Oh I know. Just pointing out yet another example of where the child was used as a shield to defend women.
/r/MensRights29/11/18 01:24 PM
1

Sure its possible but it easily could be true as well. It wouldn't be the first time a father was pushed out of a child's life while still being ordered to pay financial responsibilities for the child.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 02:34 PM
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How do we know that he is against transgender people? > Mention of “chemically castrated” at age 8. That’s not what happens - the only treatment available at that age is fully reversible puberty blockers. The irreversible changes are caused by hormone replacement therapy, which generally isn’t started until the child is well into their teens. The writer of this article, not the dad, mentions chemical castration. Sure its possible that this is not the whole story but at this point you seem to jus…
/r/MensRights28/11/18 01:47 PM
2

I cant speak for geniice but generally that statement is not made out of ignorance its made out of dismissal. They know full well what Selective Service is but don't want to talk about the issue at all so they go with the "but the draft doesn't happen anymore" dodge.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 01:34 PM
9

Damn right its not. This is not what transgender rights are for.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 01:30 PM
6

We are also the reason that: Survivor is STILL on the air. MTV has almost 0 music. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. Ghostbusters 2016 tanked. Why the Dreamcast was Sega's last console
/r/MensRights28/11/18 04:01 AM
1

If you dont want to leave then your only real option is to put your head down and just endure until graduation then cut off all contact with the school. Or when they send you those future alumni donation requests respond by telling them how you were treated during your time there and cite that as why you refuse to have anything else to do with them. Just keep a copy of that response and resend it everytime.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 03:57 AM
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I'm noticing a distinct lack of acting in "the best interests of the child". The kid wants to be a boy but the mom is somehow overriding his wishes and forcing him to be a girl. I mean shit where are all the progressives on this. This ought to be something everyone should be able to form a united front on this.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 03:54 AM
5

I think a more specific focus should be put on Selective Service. As it stand now only males have to register for it and there are penalties for not doing so. When you say "draft" people will go out of the way to conclude you are talking about Vietnam or Korean War era drafting and will promptly end the conversation before it begins with "But the draft isnt active anymore". Instead inform them on the punishments males face for not registering for Selective Service. You can get the regostration c…
/r/MensRights28/11/18 03:51 AM
0

Your close friends said so? Thank God they were women so we know it's impossible they lied to you. Its belligerence like that that stifles conversation and frankly you're doing almost exactly what feminists do. Find a number that fits your view and then try to blanketly apply to individual situations. Your 8% v 2% doesnt mean there is a 75% chance a claim is false because there isnt enough info to even come to that conclusion. But since it fits what you want to believe you throw it around as if …
/r/MensRights28/11/18 03:46 AM
1

But you're basically doing the same thing they are. Finding a number that suits what you want to say and running it into the ground.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 09:43 PM
0

I know because I've heard women that I am close friends with tell me the stories. I'll put it to you like this. How many men are the victims of domestic violence? We really don't know (and some of them are false accusations as well). But I'm willing to bet that despite not knowing exactly how many there we can agree that there are male victims of DV out there and they don't get justice. Or do you also respond to that by declaring it an assumption? Or to put another way. You are quick to tell me …
/r/MensRights27/11/18 09:41 PM
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Now to be fair that doesn't mean that those other 225 are false. At least some number of them are victims who were raped and didn't have their case "proven true". Don't get too hung up on the numbers. These are people's actual lives we're talking about.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 08:14 PM
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Let me clarify. What I mean by "unfortunate" is that people who genuinely want to something about rape have pretty much had to sit by and watch as a movement that could have done some actual good was twisted and shaped into an excuse to bash and hate men. Regardless of how man rape claims are proven to be true the fact of the matter is there are a lot that are true and a lot in which the victim doesn't get justice. I'm am not going to try to make this out to be a black or white all or nothing as…
/r/MensRights27/11/18 08:12 PM
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I like her answers there. She recognizes there is some use to #metoo (which Im okay with if she means the theory not the practice) and she refuses to be a part of the feminist hivemind.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 02:28 PM
15

You're better off not having to deal with such an asshole.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 02:17 PM
11

Interesting how the "OMG Brock Turner!!" crowd were so damn silent on this...
/r/MensRights27/11/18 02:16 PM
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I think this is a rather unfortunate consequence. In an effort to bring attention to a valid issue the movement was coopted by people who basically wanted to demand that people at large just rubber stamp all claims of male against female harassment/assault without question. Well thanks to such heavy handedness people are more skeptical, less trusting, and the lines between the sides have been dug even deeper. On a related note look at how supporters of #metoo have acted over DeVos' recommended c…
/r/MensRights27/11/18 02:14 PM
1

Just dont respond to them.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 12:04 AM
1

I get the feeling that wont be an issue here. Thauditing will be a forgotten fad in 6 months. False rape claims will still be happening. Sure I agree and it's not against the rules for you to say it I just dont think its gonna do much good to be said here.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 12:03 AM
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Okay but who is saying its controversial thought? Nevermind just reread it and saw the lead off of calling her a controversial American feminist.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 04:20 PM
3

The bigger man mentality doesnt work when the people that want you to je the bigger man actually just want you to suffer in silence. They arent asking you to not retaliate for some lofty ideal of no violence they are asking you to not retaliate because think you deserve to suffer.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 03:36 AM
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Good luck. If you run into resistance from women's or feminist groups on campus chances are they are going try to pull something along the lines of "our groups already support men so why don't you just join us?". When that happens be ready to show them why their groups for all the good they might be doing (and be sure to acknowledge said good) that their groups are not the right fit for some men. Stress that men need their own spaces to do their own work. At that point they will either respect t…
/r/MensRights20/09/18 02:59 PM
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Because of the warped belief that men should put up with horrible trash women to prove they are 'real men' but women should be free to leave horrible trash men. ​ Simple.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 02:54 PM
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If it were only frozen images I'd agree but there are video clips of it going around that show before, during, and after. That look on her face shows she did not approve of that touch. I can agree that he didnt mean to touch her like that. I can agree that he shouldn't be kicked out of his church or brought up on charges. But he did touch her inappropriately.
/r/MensRights04/09/18 10:24 PM
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I'd say it matters because of her response to him groping her. She stares up at him with a clear look of disapproval and "WTF?" on her face. She didn't know what he was doing and she didn't like it. Her response may have been different if it were someone different but I don't think him being a pastor was the difference.
/r/MensRights04/09/18 01:11 PM
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Barely brushed? Nah he straight up grabbed her tit from the side. Shit was wrong. I wouldnt say he should be charged but he was blatantly wrong.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 01:20 PM
1

I actively refuse to believe that this is serious. It must be a joke
/r/MensRights03/09/18 01:16 PM
1

I can tell you that projecting the actions of the 1% onto the other 99% doesn't help. But for some reason that's exactly what keeps happening. Its getting into insanity territory (doing the same thing expecting different results).
/r/MensRights10/08/18 04:40 PM
1

I am all for this campaign.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 04:13 PM
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I don't think that is the case. Also notice that even in cases of a woman using weapons against men it's still not taken as seriously. On the other hand it's not too hard to find people that want to restrict the gun rights of men and only men.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 04:55 PM
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Oh they understand. They just want the general masses (and their own audiences) to not notice the difference because its beneficial to their argument. Like with Boko Haram. MRM critics will be quick to intentionally interpret "We should also do something to help boys in that part of the world" as "Girls in that part of the world shouldn't get help". But good advice nonetheless.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 02:49 PM
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Its great that they seem to be coming around to it but call me when they take a case of female against male abuse anywhere near as seriously. I'm over here still trying to figure out why despite it coming out during the height of the initial #metoo hype the claim against Mariah Carey got 0 traction.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 02:44 PM
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Taken over? No good citizen MensLib started off as amen's auxiliary of feminism. Saying it was taken over is like saying the the criminal underworld was taken over by criminals. It was built by criminals in the first place.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 08:39 PM
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Surprisingly quite a few people as we'll see when Nov 19th comes around. But more specifically I think for a lot of them its that in their minds focusing on men for our own sake is seen as putting the cart before the horse. To them women and children must come first and men should be last priority. Support women and children first and once all their issues are solved by some miracle that has yet to be explained all the issues that affect men will just be automatically resolved on their own with …
/r/MensRights26/07/18 08:44 PM
2

So a dad having a specified place in the mens bathroom to change a diaper where there wasn't before is not progress?
/r/MensRights26/07/18 08:39 PM
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Its learned oppression. Men internalize that shit and believe that men don't need help despite overwhelming evidence or even personal experience.
/r/MensRights25/07/18 03:06 PM
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I'd let her have the divorce...on the condition that she agrees to 0 property or assets and 0 alimony. If she wants to leave, fine she can go. But no way does she deserve to basically get paid for cheating on me.
/r/MensRights25/07/18 02:47 PM
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HAHAHA!!!
/r/MensRights25/07/18 02:40 PM
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You know Ive seen more than a few times the complaint to the effect of, "__ don't want women to protect themselves", when talking a story like this where the woman kills the guy and then accuses him of rape after he is dead and act like that means there is some desire to prevent women from protecting themselves at all. This tends to conveniently avoid the nuanced difference between a woman killing a guy during the attack and a woman killing a guy after the attack and then saying he attacked her …
/r/MensRights25/07/18 02:35 PM
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I have to agree. It's not like someone is making documentaries on the History Channel trying to push this. And to be fair there were women who fought in WW2.
/r/MensRights14/07/18 02:25 AM
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It kinda was. There were women in the new Wolfenstien games that were right in the mix of fighting. They weren't playable but there in there fighting too.
/r/MensRights14/07/18 02:24 AM
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"... that have surged since the election of President Trump in November 2016 and the #MeToo movement. " I honestly think this is a red herring. The election of Trump and #metoo hasn't caused an uptick in these things. Its just that against the backdrop of Trump and #metoo those that oppose equality for men are getting more diligent in their hatred of men. They are looking for more things to get offended over so they search harder than before and thus find more things than before.
/r/MensRights13/07/18 08:22 PM
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Personally I'm more MRA than anti feminist. Problem is even without using that label I have personally felt to brunt of how even those that brand themselves as being suppprtive of men act when it comes to looking out for men for their own sake. Sure most feminists say they support men but it's usually conditional on only doing so if it's a secondary effect of helping women. Trickle Down Equality if you will. Now with that said I've come across feminists that aren't like that but they are in the …
/r/MensRights24/06/18 03:22 PM
2

But where did these details come from?
/r/MensRights23/06/18 11:32 AM
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This is just an attempt at keeping things clear and honest. If you recall back when the Brock Turner thing happened there were a few posts here that talked about that case and a lot of folks agreed he should have gotten a more harsh punishment.
/r/MensRights23/06/18 11:31 AM
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I like the wording in this ad because it simply offers boys a place to call to help with their rage instead of presuming that they are going to actually be violent. If that ad were made today it would be worded to the effect of, "Toxic Masculinity and violence against women are not things a real man would do" with a picture of Michael Kimmel.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:48 PM
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I just called that number for shots and giggles expecting some telemarketing spam....and it's still active. An automated system kicks in but it still the Boys Town Hotline (with Spanish directions as well as English).
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:42 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 02:31 PM
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The post actually goes the route of addressing what men's rights are about and basically ends with, "If you want to defeat the mrm, bring about equality and it will outlive its purpose". Unlike many equality movements the mrm isnt in the business of creating way to justify its infinite existence.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 05:35 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/MensRights09/06/18 02:22 AM
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Does anyone have a link to the story? I think this is worth sharing but a screenshot isnt much to go on.
/r/MensRights08/06/18 04:49 PM
2

Not just a general concept but apprently specific to this situation Trump has made sexual comments about Ivanka in the past. That is what Bee was referring to not some widespread believe that dads want to bang their daughters.
/r/MensRights01/06/18 04:51 PM
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That should make it easier to link examples.
/r/MensRights01/06/18 04:38 PM
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I'm glad those guys are speaking up. Male victims are a dirty little secret of rape hardly anyone wants to talk about.
/r/MensRights01/06/18 01:05 AM
3

"I'm not an MRA but..."
/r/MensRights31/05/18 11:59 PM
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More like the writer doesnt want to admit MRAs got this one right.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 05:02 PM
1

Have to admit I've never seen any data to suggest that blacks are more abusive than non blacks.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 04:11 AM
1

I had since took a Pro-feminist stance on ticket prices being cheaper for women based on an economic view of markets. In no way am I against equal rights but I do try and understand the source of an unequal outcome. The problem there is trying to base lower ticket prices on "economic view of markets" will ultimately come down to "I'm going to assume that any may that buys a ticket makes more money than any woman that buys a ticket and based on that assumption I will charge women a lower price". …
/r/MensRights31/05/18 04:09 AM
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I appreciate that FRD does try but I do think the "perfect moderation so difficult" excuse gets trotted out a bit too much as justification for the occasional bit of outright bias.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 04:00 AM
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I mean maybe this guy should realize that there are men in between. You know the ones that are supportive of women but don't feel the need to put it in their social media profile and tweet it everyday. The ones that have no problem calling out horrible shit but don't need to pat themselves on the back for it. The ones that don't feel like the approval of women and feminism is some requirement of thinking they are a good person. I like to call them "regular guys". We're all over the place and wou…
/r/MensRights30/05/18 09:45 PM
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Why wait until 300lb to throw it out the window? Throw that shit out as soon as possible. The only bearing her weight has is how much effort a guy needs to put into protecting himself from said woman.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 09:42 PM
3

Are they?
/r/MensRights30/05/18 01:27 PM
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You know I'm fine with "I'm not an MRA but..." as long as it doesn't get to the point where someone will actually support something harmful just to be antiMRA.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 12:46 AM
2

Honestly I'd try to get something going on that day and then ask that same class of people what they are doing to help men on November 19th.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 10:53 PM
1

He is mixed.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 11:35 PM
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Crucified? Sure and when they come with the cross ask them what is so terrible about trying to encourage men to be fit.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 11:33 PM
1

No not defending. Questioning why its not murder when a woman chooses to abort but it is murder if the child is aborted without her consent. Its like saying its rape when a man does it to a woman but its unlawful sexual contact when a woman does it to a man.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 02:51 AM
1

That is exactly what I was thinking. Either she confesses to an affair or admits the preg test was fake.
/r/MensRights22/05/18 10:18 PM
3

When has shaming someone actually done them any good? If you want an excuse to be mean then go for it but don't waste time acting like you're doing some sort of service.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:21 PM
6

This is more like a list of things that have helped men that feminism can take credit for.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 06:20 PM
1

General Honestly curious, does this sub generally believe that women have gained enough institutional power to oppress men? Yes. I agree that men face oppression, but it appears to be at the hand of a patriarchal system that is enforced by those (men and women) invested in maintaining that system. I'm not convinced its a patriarchal system largely because those at the top do not embody the actual definition of a patriarch. There is more to being a patriarch than "have power". There is also respo…
/r/MensRights18/05/18 04:56 PM
1

So what goes into picking one over the other?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 08:29 PM
1

Then why not call it that? Why go through the trouble of pushing the idea of toxic masculinity instead of simply calling it intermixed misandry? It better yet why is it internalized misogyny rather than toxic femininity for women?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 07:37 PM
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Sure. It's fun. She likes. I like it. Why not. Although on a side note I notice that people have dogpiled Khaled for this in a way that wouldn't be tolerated if a woman had said she doesnt suck dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 05:12 PM
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. May result in stoicism, some men feeling they cannot talk about their issues, men dismissing the men who do come forward as wusses. How is that not internalized misandry?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 03:38 PM
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Agreed. This seems like one of those things that is being pushed as a joke just to deflect criticism. I mean look at how hard OP is seriously trying to defend it. Doesn't match my experience as being openly expressive with men has almost always been easier than being expressive with women. But I'm sure OP will reply soon to tell me that might be my experience blahblahblah.....
/r/MensRights16/05/18 10:47 AM
2

This isn't right no matter the gender.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 01:32 PM
10

To the privileged, consistency feels like entitlement.
/r/MensRights11/05/18 07:32 PM
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Objectification does happen but the term has been so frivolously overused, misapplied, and selectively defines that it's nearly useless now. Yes there are cases of people reducing someone to a sexual object but that is not inherently a bad thing.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:25 PM
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Although race should play no part in a purely gendered debate, I have found incredible levels of racism present here. I’m not going to argue about this one because it’s not deniable. So basically, "There is racism here and I'm right because I said so"? Great way to foster conversation by declaring yourself right and refusing to talk about it. The Incel movement that killed 10 in Toronto is alive and well here! Incel themed posts are frequent occurrences. Now, I’m not saying that everyone here co…
/r/MensRights10/05/18 01:21 PM
2

Where did this come from?
/r/MensRights09/05/18 01:31 PM
4

Thank you for taking the time to come see for yourself instead of just parroting feminist bullshit that's more generalization than anything.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 01:29 PM
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It really doesn't matter how a woman chooses to dress when it comes to all forms of sexual assault. I.e, it ought not to be accepted as a line of defense for the accused. Are we all in agreement with that? Yes agreed. I'm curious. What prompted you to pose this question here?
/r/MensRights09/05/18 01:27 PM
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Antifa are very often wearing masks, most likely because they are university students and so on, best defence would be to yank their masks off if they get close enough to hit you and they'll likely just run away after that if you're filming. Yes to this. If they come at you try to defend yourself but also try to unmask them. That alone may cause them to run.
/r/MensRights08/05/18 09:01 PM
6

Who among the people attacked were mras?
/r/MensRights08/05/18 06:38 PM
2

So what does any of what you just said there have to do with men being in their kid's lives?
/r/MensRights08/05/18 03:13 PM
1

Okay fine you say men are portrayed worse. But wouldn't it be worth trying to unite over the fact that both men and women are treated pretty bad?
/r/MensRights08/05/18 03:55 AM
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3) Cassie should have interviewed "better" feminists for the film than she did, by which I mean feminists who would have done a better job selling the religion ideology. (Note: a number of the feminists interviewed are quite credible and senior in the movement. I think this criticism is objectively wrong). Which is funny considering a fair number of feminists literally switched from supporting her movie to railing against it once they found out that it wasn't just an antiMRM hit piece.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 04:38 PM
1

Well it's not like tv portrayals are all sunshine and rainbows for women either. And no I'm not saying women have it worse than men when it comes to tv portrayals. In fact trying to establish who has it worse is a waste of time.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 04:34 PM
1

You seem to presume that male desire for women is rooted in sexual objectification. I don't think it is. It plays a role but it's not the sole factor at play. But honestly women have no problem sexually objectifying men. Just look at the Marvel comic book movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:25 PM
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I more so lean left on the issues, not with the people. The Left has some good ideas and good points but a lot of them get implemented poorly.
/r/MensRights05/05/18 01:22 PM
1

Are you saying that’s not a thing? Didn’t this sub ban incel content for that reason? I didn't say it wasn't a thing. It just seems that since that attack in Canada a week or so ago its now becoming a new boogeyman. I don't recall asking you to have empathy people who have such views.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 01:19 PM
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I didn't say that it was excusable. Once again, don’t expect empathy from others when you aren’t willing to give it yourself. But that is exactly the position both men (and women) are in. Being expected to give empathy to others that won't give it in return. Which one? The "raging incel pity party".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:52 PM
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The whole idea of toxic masculinity is that it is the destructive (to themselves and others) fallout of a man trying to be as little like a woman as possible, because being like a woman is a bad thing. Not just because he is a man, but because women are lesser. But that fallout isnt from men trying to be as little like women as possible. It's more from men trying to fit the ideal that makes them most useful for society. Making men less woman like is a symptom not a cause. It takes a lot of condi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:49 PM
1

Ok, but a feminist website isn’t really concerned with masculinity. I don't know about that. They seem awful quick to be concerned with it whenever a man does something terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:45 PM
1

That's another problem. It seems that the conversation on masculinity is an exception to the "be the change you want to see" idea. Apprently femininity is helped by focusing on the positive but helping masculinity require a focusing on the negative. (And no that doesnt mean I'm saying no one ever focuses on the positives of masculinity I'm just pointing out the overall imbalance of focus.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:41 PM
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So one popular (probably most popular) use of the term is in respect to men not feeling they can show emotional vulnerability without being judged. The idea of not showing emotions because it makes you 'less of a man' is because necessarily being 'less of a man' means being 'more like a woman' and being a woman is inherently lesser and bad. I think here is issue so to speak. Being seen as "less of a man" does not autotranslate to "being seen as a woman". A lot of the admonishments that men get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:37 PM
1

I think the lack of understanding comes from men, despite having such difficulties, are still told dating/relationships favor us as if we don't have any issues facing us. Also interesting word choice. It's not much different from not wanting to be called misogynists for not starting off just apologizing for simply being a man these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:29 PM
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To me the implication comes from how so much focus is put into so called toxic masculinity and so little is put into talking about or working on a non toxic maculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:25 PM
2

Side note. Oddly most of the commentary I saw when the 4th one came out a week or so ago was about how the game "glorifies violence".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:20 PM
1

Different formulas. Being seen as caring about women is pretty much universally applauded. He'll we've seen stories of feminist merchandise being made in child labor sweat shops and still continue to operate. On the other hand when it comes to being seen as caring about men its quite conditional. Is the effort feminist/progressive/SJW approved? If not it's an automatic fail. Does the effort directly support men or hides it support for men by primarily focusing on some subset of men? Helping gay …
/r/MensRights04/05/18 05:03 PM
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First get copies of everything you can get your hands on before trying to get things deleted. Contact a real lawyer for options. Don't even waste time on r/legaladvice. They are biased against men. Report the reddit post. Contact Reddit administration and report it to them. They claim to be against doxxing. Time to put thay claim to the test.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 04:30 PM
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Why not both?
/r/MensRights04/05/18 04:25 PM
1

An angry man hater calls for a witch hunt. Or its a day that ends in y. They both happen so often its hard to tell them apart.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 04:21 AM
1

Fair enough. I think at this point it might be worth making it as clear as possible that something isnt to he taken seriously. There are far too many people scouring this reddit looking for anything that can be twisted and presented as "proof" that this place is centered around hating women. I don't like that position but right now I think it's worth it to be mindful not to give them ammo and actually force them to pay attention instead of running with the first damning bit of proof they can go …
/r/MensRights03/05/18 08:29 PM
2

Nah even in self defense he went way too far. Choking someone to death isnt self defense. If he had hit a few times or something sure. But choking someone is an up close personal act. That wasn't self defense that was extreme retaliation. And for the record I'd say the same if the genders were swapped.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 08:23 PM
1

I understand the frustration and hopefully this is just venting but thus seems pretty extreme.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 07:35 PM
0

Not arguing that at all. I'm just recognizing the different responses those two sentiments get. Like I said above I'd regard both as attacks. Never said anything about 2 wrong making a right so I'm not sure where you got that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:37 PM
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Then I'd say those are attacks as well. Difference being the idea of toxic masculinity has mainstream acceptance while the ideas of toxic black and Muslim cultures don't and are largely seen as offensive by many of the very same people who think the idea of toxic masculinity is so insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:19 PM
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Call the police. The sooner you get them on this the better. Best to avoid the question of, "Why did it take so long for you to call police?". Record everything. Those wellness checks? Start buddying up with the cops that come out. Show them you are friendly and not a threat. Also get copies of any reports the responding cops file if you can to make sure they really are wellness checks. Call the police. Call the police.
/r/MensRights03/05/18 05:59 AM
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In case someone wants to read the whole thing. https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/bj5ex8/how-to-help-gender-equality-international-womens-day Edit: Looks like someone posted this here right around the same time this screenshot was posted. https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/bj5ex8/how-to-help-gender-equality-international-womens-day Why go through all that trouble though?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 05:50 AM
1

Okay can we get another reporting option for posts like this? The person took the time to take a screenshot of a portion the list, scratch out the parts they didn't care about, and upload the edited image in order to share it....instead of just posting a link to the article itself. Posts like this are just ragebait looking to piss people off and get them mad at Vice. I mean if we are expected to be outraged can we at least get the whole article instead of a cherry picked screen shot?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 05:47 AM
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Props to the woman that is spoke up about this problem. Because let's be honest if a man had done it would be written off as misogyny.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 08:24 PM
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I've seen a lot of recent articles calling out Kratos from God of War or Thanos from Avengers: Infinity War as embodiment of more "toxic" male culture. Which I think is largely coming from people who aren't well informed on Kratos or Thanos and are just forcing their ideology in an effort to make them fit the ideology rather than question the ideology based on what they see. For example Kratos repeatedly tries to teach Atreus: 1. To consider multiple perspectives instead of just taking what you …
/r/MensRights01/05/18 05:14 PM
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So what they mean is that when a man is a victim of domestic violence, the men and women that make up the police and court systems do not take it as seriously as when a woman is a victim of domestic violence, because patriarchal beliefs bias them to think that men can "take it" better, or that women are "too weak" to do any real damage. So what does it mean when feminists themselves use those same beliefs to justify ignoring and even justifying how male victims are treated? A real feminist would…
/r/MensRights01/05/18 05:00 PM
2

Insurance companies already have ways to increase rates and impose penalties on drivers with accidents on their records. Why make a company wide assumption of, "The customer is male that means he is going to be more dangerous of a driver therefore we need to charge him more"?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 04:41 PM
2

Haha joke's on you. Watching that show IS a game by Jigsae.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 07:09 PM
2

Quick someone tell the "victims advocates" to turn off the "Believe The Victim" light so they can remember to swear up and down that she was attacked and she is now lying by recanting.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 02:20 AM
1

Thanks!!
/r/MensRights26/04/18 08:57 PM
1

Does anyone have a link rather than just a screenshot? Assuming this is some advice column of be curious to see what the response was.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 07:20 PM
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Title: I'm allowed to say "Men are Trash" In first paragraph: " I do not hate all men." She knows exactly what she is doing. She is trying to start drama with a bullshit statement just so she can olay victim and cry foul when someone dared to stand up to her. Saying the statement "Men are Trash" just to immediately follow up with explain she doesnt hate all men shows that she knows the impact of her words but thinks her intent matters more than any impact. Simply put ask her how well she would t…
/r/MensRights26/04/18 06:59 PM
1

There is no collective stance so please don't come here looking to he told what to think. Me personally I don't care. Just take that focus and apply it to helping men.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 06:52 PM
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So now we can look forward to anti mras digging through this reddit for anything they can spin as support for that guy's action and as representation of the entire movement..... Great....
/r/MensRights26/04/18 03:31 AM
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If that were true then feminists epuldnt be so quick to capitalize on tragedies like this as a chance to lump incels, Mras, red pills, and everything else they don't like into a single monolith that only have the trait "Not liked by feminists" in common. Thing is plenty of feminists say they are supportive of men but in a lot of cases that support is condition (on the condition that support for men is beneficial to women somehow). Which is ironic considering how often feminists call for men to u…
/r/MensRights25/04/18 04:53 AM
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Because those past waves, despite specific individuals like those you name, actually had things to fight for. I'm not gonna act like the likes of Gloria, Betty, and Germaine somehow cancel out such issues as women not having suppprt systems when abused, couldn't own their credit cards (and I think even bank accounts), and were prevented from taking on certain jobs. Don't try to mistake agreeing with the work of past waves as endorsement for each and every individual of those waves. For example h…
/r/MensRights20/04/18 08:05 PM
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I'd do one better. Start a men only night somewhere, wait for the the Mansplainless Wednesday crowd to cry misogyny, then point to their own event as precedent.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 07:48 PM
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Oh I have plenty of burn marks from doing that already. What im saying is we have to get our own house in order first before trying to deal with them. At this point we are guerilla fighters trying to use hit and run tactics against well oiled organized war machine. We have to get organized as well.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 05:59 PM
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Oh yes I agree that it shouldn't be ignored. I'm just saying there are also other things to focus on as well.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 05:44 PM
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Agreed. I think being male us a factor in these shootings just not in the way that the usual talking heads like to bring it up. Instead of taking every shooting to whine about male privilege this and male entitlement that why not take a moment to stop and listen to boys? The problem is no one wants to listen to boys because doing so would challenge the established narrative that boys grow up with a sense of thinking the world is owed to them.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 02:54 PM
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To hell with them then.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 02:02 PM
1

You know if that place could handle being critical of women, feminism, and feminists it might be worth something. But I learned the hard way they are more interested in propagating and defending women and feminism then helping men.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 01:07 PM
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While true I'm really starting to wonder if feminists do that with the intent of keeping discussion of men's issues under their control. Essentially I'm asking if feminists rail against the MRM as a way of making the bull see red to draw its attention away from what's really important.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 01:02 PM
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Yes. If i want to follow feminist drama I can go to Youtube. I come here to find stories and conversation about men that aren't tainted with assumptions and buzzwords because frankly those stories are hard to find elsewhere. But that is getting harder and harder to find around here.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 01:00 PM
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I have to agree. I've seen more than a few posts that get flaired as Feminism but the particular discussion at best has some tangential relation to feminism that you usually have to explicitly ask the OP to explain (and often boils down to, "You know this is some shit feminists would do."). This sub is dangerously on the edge of going off topic. While I agree feminism has its problems with men I think we have to get ourselves and our house in order before trying to focus on them. Few things anno…
/r/MensRights20/04/18 12:57 PM
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What thread was this?
/r/MensRights20/04/18 12:51 PM
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Goddamn. That is so hard to read. That asshole need to be locked under the fucking prison and the key melted down.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 12:35 PM
1

Considering how the female characters on Legends are more of the lead roles than the male ones it really comes off as punching down.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 10:32 PM
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Thankfully no.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 10:31 PM
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That's fine. I rather use asshole because it deprives them of the chance to cry about using a "misogynist" insult. Force them to actually address what's being said.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:06 PM
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But was her name revealed?
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:33 PM
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Yeah I can't think of any reason why men would not want to have any contact with women. /s That woman was an asshole plain and simple.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:32 PM
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Damn that is fucked. I have to admit this is why you need to be damn sure the woman you're is the one before locking in for life. My gf proved herself when I suddenly lost my job and she not only stuck around be actually helped me. This was barely a year into our relationship so it would have been real easy for her to dump me (we weren't even living together at the time so the break wpuld have been clean). But what does this have to do with feminism (the flair)?
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:30 PM
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Me personally I have no problem with trans men and welcome them. I honestly agree with you because if nothing else will steal the wind out of the sails of antimras that are always on the lookout for reasons to justify whining about the mrm.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:23 PM
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Honestly id answer the questions from a specific angle of the male experience. Why is gender sensitivity important in boosting our labor sector and economy Helping women understand the experiences of men would work towards helping them find a common ground with men and thus increase productivity. What are the possible ways to eradicate fully sexual harrasment When a harassment claim is made don't start with assumptions. Don't use lopsided standards that result in just assuming an accused man is …
/r/MensRights19/04/18 06:19 PM
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Maybe it's me but it seems a better comparison would be between why both men and women may lie when raped or both may lie when accusing someone of rape
/r/MensRights19/04/18 04:04 PM
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I'd say let them have their anti male events. I also say men take advantage of those events to have our gatherings to help ourselves in a meaningful way. Then when they are stuck between "celebrating their hatred of men" v "preventing men from having their own time and space away from women" just sit back and watch the fireworks.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 12:41 PM
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This list seems a bit odd because it seems to be "Why men lie when accused of raping someone" v "Why women lie when accusing someone of rape".
/r/MensRights19/04/18 12:36 PM
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You can find them problem is only a precious few of them are high profile. It seems that the more high profile a feminist gets the more ideological and dogmatic they get I'd say check out the sub femradebates for some feminists that can actually handle talking about men in some context other than "why are men bad and what can be done to make them fix themselves". But I'll warn you the moderation is pretty biased. Comments by feminists and comments about men and mras get more leniency than commen…
/r/MensRights19/04/18 12:28 PM
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First of all: Before I say anything, please don't downvote this post immediately based on the topic, insult me, or otherwise be a disrespectful person. This is a discussion platform, and if you do that without trying to engage in this discussion, you are only emulating what many feminists do. A sarcastic thanks for the good faith. Literally opening your post by passing judgement doesnt do you much good. ...A majority of users on here replied with negativity, saying it's virtue-signalling, and th…
/r/MensRights18/04/18 06:03 PM
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It's the result of who is constantly going on about how strong and independent they are. Men don't brag about it. We just do it. And women that actually are strong and independent are usually too busy dping something useful to sit around bragging about how strong and independent they are.
/r/MensRights18/04/18 04:11 PM
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Honestly I can't think of a male poet that touches on these things (but I'm not too familiar with poetry so grain of salt and all that). Perhaps this is a chance for you to become such a poet? Even of you don't have stories if your own of being abused perhaps talk to men who have and ask permission to apply their stories to your poetry?
/r/MensRights18/04/18 04:07 PM
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And this is a part of why guys dont take it seriously when men mutilate and abuse women. We are expected to show a level of care, compassion, empathy that to women that far too many of them refuse to reciprocate. I bet money the people laughing in that thread would be the first ones to outrage if a man mutilated a woman and got such a light sentence.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 09:24 PM
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I'm sorry man. The guy took advantage of your youth and naivete. Even if he never replied and cuts you off forever try to take some peace of mind in the fact that you spoke up to him. Good on you.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 09:15 PM
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On the grounds of innocent until proven guilty that's just what an acquittal means.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 04:21 PM
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Damn. I'm sorry man. If he did that in public there is a real chance you weren't his first target. And while you should feel free to speak up here if you think you need more direct support don't be scared to reach out to a trained counselor for more help.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 04:19 PM
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A step in the right direction of helping male victims and holding female criminals responsible for their actions.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 04:10 PM
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I don't blame you for not escalating because really what options did you have other than to rebuke the woman and going about your day?
/r/MensRights15/04/18 07:54 PM
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And this is why you should never look to critic sites to help you decide if a movie is worth watching. Most of them are biased in one way or another.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 07:51 PM
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I think I may be talking about this one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:52 AM
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Thanks for the summary. Hopefully the video will reappear somewhere else.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:46 AM
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I'll take that ocer constantly blaming men for everything they don't like and everything bad that happens to them.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 04:45 PM
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Just leave troll.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 04:43 PM
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If that were true you wouldn't have women getting attacked/harassed by SJWs. All women aren't the enemy and trying to hedge it with "to a certain degree" doesnt cut it.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 04:42 PM
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What was the video about?
/r/MensRights14/04/18 04:39 PM
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I'm likely thinking of a different story. In the one I'm thinking the boy was 13 and the rapist got the order for support and the parents were rightly upset about having to pay suppprt to their son's rapist.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 04:39 PM
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I wouldn't roll the dice on her though. She would probably accuse you of rape later just to have a reason to call for your death (at the hands of otger men of course because women don't do stuff like that)
/r/MensRights14/04/18 02:39 AM
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Yeah. And since a 12 year old boy can't work legally imagine being a parent paying child support the woman that raped your son.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 02:36 AM
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My guess is not much. As in not saying much about it because it's not a male abuser. Sure not all feminists are like that but the comparison will be this vs how they responded to any one of the #metoo stories.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 09:35 PM
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I'm starting to wonder if this is a good idea. I mean I would put a lot more stock in "Company X pays one gender more than the other." than "Women overall are paid less than men for the same work". One may be true for certain specific employers. The other is an ideological zombie that has been killed multiple times but always comes back.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 03:18 AM
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Yes. There is no reason to prevent men from having male only spaces.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 03:16 AM
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Again I'm not saying the system is the only factor. But I'm not going to pretend it's not a factor either.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 01:07 AM
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All joking aside I think something like did actually happen in the States a year or so ago. Like a study was done that showed that the life expectancy of men had gone up a bit and a lot of sites reported it as "Oh no the life expectancy gap got smaller this is a disaster for women!!!".
/r/MensRights28/03/18 12:50 AM
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No I'm saying the court system played a role in it as well.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 12:45 AM
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I mean they aren't wrong.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 12:18 AM
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Well considering how the system has crushed black men to a fine powder over the last several decades this isn't surprising.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 12:11 AM
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Good on you and the woman you were talking to.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 12:09 AM
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Understandable. There is a lot of work to be done.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 05:36 PM
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So when are the women of Starbucks gonna sue because apprently they have not been getting equal pay.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 12:05 AM
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What you said plus support for male victims.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 12:01 AM
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Yes you can. It all depends on what kind of mra and feminist you are. As long as you aren't one that advocates or justifies or okay with the harm of men or women under some veil of supporting the other then yes you can be both. In fact ideally you would be both. In the long run though dont get too caught up in the labels and just put in the work.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 12:15 PM
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Well it doesnt help that for the most part privilege is just being assumed to have a role in the shootings.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 12:09 PM
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Agreed. But I think it looks better if he lets the angry feminists come at him rather than antagonizing them.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 08:18 PM
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What most of those "why couldn't that happen to me" type guys dont realize us they are making s false equivalency. They are comparing a boy that was taken advantage of at best or horribly violated at worst to a grown man having a consensual encounter. It's like being trapped in a cave for a week and having only having MREs to eat and when you get free and tell the story someone says, "I love MREs! Why couldn't I get to eat them for a week?" Sure you may enjoy that situation but that doesnt mean …
/r/MensRights22/03/18 12:17 PM
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In fact I would say don't even mention feminism at all. The presentation is supposed to be for men and boys, not a gripe session. Despite having valid reason to criticize feminism battles must be chosen carefully.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 11:55 AM
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It may not be perfect but I'm glad to see progress in getting more male birth control options. And kudos to USA News for manage to talk about this in a way that doesn't either center around what women think about it for tries to trash men in general when it comes to birth control.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 12:10 AM
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Nah I don't think reddit killed it off. I think its the same problem that nearly any space that tries to accommodate both feminists and MRAs. Either the scales tip to one side or both sides hate each other so much they avoid going to the mutual spaces where they can't depend on mods to treat them favorably. What makes Feminist Critics interesting is that that Daran and ballgame pretty much bent over backwards to make that place more inviting to feminists and they STILL wouldn't stick around afte…
/r/MensRights22/03/18 12:04 AM
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Yeah I noticed that as well with Feminist Critics. The place largely died off despite coddling feminists so much.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 02:32 PM
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Doesnt help that when the SPLC made that assessment they quite literally only cited feminist sources about the MRM.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 07:04 AM
2

Nobel laureate Sir Richard Timothy Hunt, FRS FMedSci FRSE biochemist and molecular physiologist, fired for a sexist joke. For a joke that was intentionally taken out of context by reporters in order to create a shitstorm. If I recall he said something like, "Women shouldn't be scientists....or maybe the problem is with old guys like me". Well some of the reporters covering it literally ommitted the "....or maybe the problem is with old guys like me" in order to make it look like he was saying wo…
/r/MensRights18/03/18 06:57 AM
2

When you ask those 363 give a stat or story along with it. Like, "What are you doing for men like the man who was basically left to die in prison as guards laughed and joked about it?". (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/16/jailhouse-video-shows-deputies-laughing-as-prisoner-dies.html)
/r/MensRights18/03/18 06:51 AM
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Goes to show that finding out about something from an opponents viewpoint is rarely a good idea. Gotta see it for yourself.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 06:38 AM
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Here is a link explaining exactly what rules they broke but still no explanation of exactly what they did. http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/index.ssf/2018/03/lehigh_sorority_kicked_off_cam.html
/r/MensRights18/03/18 06:36 AM
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I had the same suspicion. From what Ive see The Guardian would report the claim as if it were true and then if later shown to be false they would just go silent and never mention the case again.
/r/MensRights18/03/18 06:24 AM
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If she told him to stop and he kept doing it anyway then he is in the wrong. I know there is a desire to outrage ovee these things and call them overkill or going too far. But this isn't the Anziz Ansari incident. She actually spoke up and told him to stop. You can't in one breath say a woman needs to speak up then in the next say her speaking up isnt valid or going too far.
/r/MensRights06/03/18 02:03 PM
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How about with a focus on self care and health? How about rallying men by encouraging them to take time to take care of themselves. Maybe they work tirelessly and could really use a day off? Maybe they have been telling themselves " I'll get that checked out later" for over a year? Maybe a guy that is getting older and the body is not in such great shape? Maybe they haven't had much time with the new baby? Maybe a younger man that isn't comfortable with getting into the routine of regular check …
/r/MensRights05/03/18 06:04 PM
1

Cool. By the way who is she?
/r/MensRights02/03/18 04:04 AM
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And maybe you should calm the fuck down and chill the fuck out instead of getting crying about tone policing. Sure everyone needs room to blow steam but for some odd reason the majority of the posts around here are blowing off steam by trying to blame everything on feminism. Yeah it feels good for a moment but in the long run its counter productive.
/r/MensRights02/03/18 04:03 AM
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I don't deny that it's a cancerous attitude. What im getting at is stretching to make everything about feminism just for a chance to curse it may not be the best way to go about things
/r/MensRights01/03/18 05:26 PM
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Oh I didn't mean to say you were. Informing people of Nov 19 when people ask on Mar 8 is a great idea. Apologies for the confusion.
/r/MensRights01/03/18 05:22 PM
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As I said last year I say we just let women have their day and we use our day (Nov 19) to do our thing.
/r/MensRights01/03/18 09:42 AM
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So what about this is feminist?
/r/MensRights01/03/18 09:40 AM
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Well bear in mind someone leaked that memo far beyond the group he shares it with. If he could left alone he would work. But the problem he can't work because everyone else is focusing in the politics
/r/MensRights25/02/18 05:16 AM
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Since its fresh in my memory I'd say Black Panther. T'Challa not only has to maintain connection to the old ways but create new ways but he takes the time to recognize and build up the courage to tell his father that he was wrong (I won't spoil). It takes a lot for a son to be able carry on after his father and actually pick apart the good from the bad and takes even more for a son to stand up to his father, man to man, and tell him that something he did in the past was wrong.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 04:29 AM
1

Agreed. Scrapping it is lazy. Fixing it would be useful.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:23 AM
1

Yes plenty have been hurt and brainwashed (and sometimes both like male feminists) I just don't think I must be totally scrapped.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:22 AM
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I don't blame you for feeling that way but I'm okay disagreeing.
/r/MensRights15/02/18 02:20 AM
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The prosecution didn't just fail to disclose. Failure makes it sound like they forgot or didn't know they had the texts. This is a refusal.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 02:32 PM
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This may sound crazy but I don't want Women's Studies departments to be shut down. Their existence isnt the problem it's that they have been uses incorrectly. Instead of using them to examine the perspectives of women and help women see their value and worth they have become ideological echo chambers for teaching misandry and professional victim. They don't need to be removed jist cleaned up.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 02:26 PM
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You are most welcome here. Enjoy your stay!
/r/MensRights14/02/18 05:33 AM
3

And shutout to him talking specifically about his weight issues.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 05:31 AM
1

LOL
/r/MensRights31/01/18 03:53 PM
4

Yeah this is just a simple case of antiMRA bias being welcome at Wiki.
/r/MensRights30/01/18 05:16 PM
4

Yes. The problem was that feminists jumped all over the initial wave of spam ideas and ran to the media about how the community as a whole was doing it when that was nowhere near the case. The facts don't fit their biases so they have to use deceptive tactics in order to generate fear.
/r/MensRights30/01/18 05:15 PM
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The rape report spam I'm almost certain is not true. I recall that when Occidental announced their Online Rape report system there was a thread here where people trying to gather and PLAN to spam the system but to my knowledge no one ever actually went back and said they had done it. Also I bet a blank check that the source on that is David Futrelle who has a bit of a history of taking what MRAs say and do out of context in order to stir up outrage and drama. I don't recall the doxxing thing eit…
/r/MensRights30/01/18 01:10 PM
1

Simple we don't.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 07:48 PM
4

Sounds like collective responsibility. By simply sharing the same gender we are just as responsible as actual rapists. Oh and this also plays into trying to put looking at a woman for too long, groping a woman, and making a sexual comment on the same level as rape.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 04:40 PM
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Wait a minute. That link is to ceddit.com not reddit.com. Here is a list of several posts about men being sexually harassed at the AskMen of reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/search?q=sexually+harassed&sort=new&restrict_sr=on Either you are trying to sell us a bill of goods to generate outrage or someone sold you a bill of goods to generate outrage and you didn't notice.
/r/MensRights26/01/18 02:53 PM
2

I don't know what's going on here. Is the idea "If you can't handle a man when he is abusive you don't deserve him when he is not abusive"?
/r/MensRights25/01/18 02:28 PM
2

Be careful about flairing this false accusation.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 06:50 PM
2

Signs are pointing to WWE choosing to fire him because he didn't inform management of the investigation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT28cBJPQQg
/r/MensRights24/01/18 06:41 PM
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I think a bit of context needs to be provided here. The main reason he was fired over this isn't because of the accusation itself but because he was fully aware of this case back in October but never informed WWE management. From a PR perspective this looks like WWE employed a suspected rapist for 3 months. In addition to this he already had a reputation for rude and obnoxious behavior and even getting kicked out locker rooms and even getting kicked off a tour bus once.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 02:29 PM
1

Nah it's just getting good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:09 AM
1

what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:02 PM
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However it's not clear to me that they gave the male students the same time. One of the first sentences is, "Students taking maths and computer science examinations in the summer of 2017 were given an extra 15 minutes to complete their papers,..." It doesn't say "female student taking maths...." just "students". I understand being skeptical about the change because of what lead to it but I don't think there is any room to try to say that the change doesn't apply to male students as well.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 07:53 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:25 PM
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mmmmhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:38 PM
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right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:53 PM
2

What scares me is some of those things already happen and we are nowhere a feminist utopia...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:21 PM
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so there is no need for OP to be more precise. let's just sit back and wait for the several different answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:20 PM
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She says outright she hopes her actions keep her boys from having a #MeToo moment. If her boys (and all males) aren’t potential rapists, why would her indoctrination have any affect whatsoever? There is a difference between taking active steps to make sure something doesn't happen and assuming that that something happens by default. Not wanting her sons to be abusive isn't an indictment against all males. If a dad said he wants to raise his daughter to not be a gold digging liar does that mean h…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 04:19 PM
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Im not sure about that. Star Wars is a major property so spitting this bad press about the MRM along this line will likely influence people.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:42 PM
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The title is misleading and thus the flair is misleading. Its not just giving women more time it gives all students more time. I suppose you could argue that the change was only made for the sake of women but that would require showing that male students who asked for the same were denied. This is the very equality of opportunity that is so highly value.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:26 PM
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No I don't think she is accusing them of being potential rapists. In fact I'd say this is one of the more tame postings I've seen. Are you sure you aren't just looking for something that isn't there on this one?
/r/MensRights23/01/18 01:15 PM
1

Considering the vast majority of material on the MRM that is presented in the media is overwhelmingly critical to nasty to flat untrue I think a piece that focuses on the positive/reasonable is an overdue ray of sunshine. Seriously pieces that criticize and trash the MRM are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:26 AM
1

If that's the case then we'll jist get several different answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:22 AM
1

That's not accurate. Red Pillers have tried to co opt the MRM but haven't really been successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:18 AM
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Does this account for distance travelled to work (for some reason I can't pull this article up on mobile)?
/r/MensRights23/01/18 02:08 AM
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Not the worth the risk or the hate. It would be better for MRAs just do do their own events because that eliminates the excuse that they want to invade spaces meant to empower women in order to silence women.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 09:42 PM
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I believe that all people should have the same rights, so the idea of marching for one specific group (that I don’t belong to) is causing me some cognitive dissonance. I think the best way to look at this is to bare in mind that while all people should have the same rights different groups have different issues and they will need to be addressed differently. To offer a different perspective imagine this. Let's say there was a men's march and your gf expressed some cognitive dissonance. Like let'…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 07:54 PM
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I agree with you. Shame is not a useful too for teaching and its fucking terrible. I'm all for teaching consent but I refuse to support shaming people into doing what you want.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 03:51 PM
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Wait. From what I understand he had to reshoot because Kevin Spacey was pulled from the movie. Wasn't Kevin Spacey's victim male?
/r/MensRights19/01/18 02:52 PM
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Yeah this is already at "MRA RooshV calls for movement wide boycott of Mad Max Fury Road" levels of bullshit.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 01:25 PM
1

At this point it would be quite useful for someone to explain why this would not apply to men. They would be putting their foot in their mouth and would have to pretty much admit to having anti male bias.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 01:07 PM
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Oh lord you're not even trying anymore you're just spitting rhetoric in hopes of getting upvotes or something.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 04:43 AM
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A fair point.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 04:43 AM
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Oh I can agree to that. But we have to be careful HOW we become the victor.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 08:19 PM
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yeah its a war. a war that will never end if as long as celebrating other people's pain is seen as an important thing to do.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 07:39 PM
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That's just stoopid. It's the courts that sort out justice, not us. A court system feminism has created. We are just celebrating the fact they are getting ensnared in their own creation. That's smart. I think it would be better to offer a more viable alternative than to celebrate their downfall. Think about it like this. I'm sure you have seen feminists try to sum up men being harmed as "the cost of privilege" and then celebrate that harm? Yeah trying to justify taking pleasure in other people's…
/r/MensRights17/01/18 07:21 PM
1

Good. Yes there is a real chance that nothing will come of reporting them but at least you have the peace of mind that you didn't stay quiet.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 05:36 PM
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Are supportive of the misandry or are they supportive of the fact that he dared to talk back to feminist nonsense?
/r/MensRights17/01/18 04:40 PM
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He's also criticized by a lot of MRAs. Back during election time there was clear division around here between those that supported him and those that did not.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 03:37 PM
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Where? I know a while back when Trump said something like, "Lets face it women are smarter than men" the folks around here didnt like it.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 03:20 PM
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Oh this is funny. But whats even funnier is that people are trying to spin this as MRA material.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 03:14 PM
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Its all about framing. A framing that is ruled by the notion that women are victims being acted upon while men are perps who act.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 03:10 PM
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Actually the misandric shit tradcons say is called out and it nowhere near OK. Just because its not posted about everyday doesnt mean people think its okay.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 03:09 PM
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I’m really sorry but basically I’ve written so many responses and I’m oh so weary. Thank you have even more of my thanks for choosing to reply to my comment. I just feel like you should call yourself a feminist, particularly if you feel you are for gender equality, as labelling yourself differently but acting the same does no harm to you..... My own experience at this tells me a very different story. I've had too many conversations come to a screeching halt because I don't identify as feminist. …
/r/MensRights17/01/18 02:17 PM
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If you can support women’s rights without being a feminist, I don’t see why you shouldn’t be a feminist. Its a matter of HOW you support women's rights. Trying to push the idea that "if you support women's rights means you're a feminist" just comes off as "feminism is the ONLY way to support women's rights". Remember feminism is simply one ideology of many in regards to equality. Trying to prop it up as the only way to equality is folly. If you truly are for equality of the sexes, it’s much more…
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:36 PM
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....seem to be against it is because of courts / Gove favouring women in a few cases. Few cases? Its pretty much a proven thing that women are favored in courts when it comes to custody and sentencing. Im sure you may not mean it but you seem to have a way of minimizing the favor women get from the system as well as the harms men face.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:29 PM
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1) Women don’t hate men (1% may) Its not just a matter of numbers. Ever noticed that while the vast majority of men don't hate women there is still no shortage of claims that "men hate women" "men don't respect women" "men are inconsiderate of women's experiences/perspectives"? Also another thing to consider is that while a minority of women don't hate men expressing hate for men isn't exactly looked down upon like openly expressing hate for other groups. And don't you think 1% is a pretty gener…
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:25 PM
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No. Celebrating male feminists accused of rape isn't the way to go. Firstly that means there is a chance that some victim has been hurt and celebrating comes dangerously close to celebrating the rape of a victim and that's just not cool by any measure. I know you may be say that you don't mean it that way but its about perception and feminists still have the upper hand in that department. Secondly even if the claims turns out not to be true it will still get added to the firey anti male bias tha…
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:05 PM
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Says who? Why should men who fight against men's rights be supported by MRAs? Because we are better than those that try to sort out justice by label and gender. Or at least we should be better. That makes no sense. Why should we defend due process for those who are opposed to due process and are opposed to men's rights? How does that make us hypocrites? Consistency. Trying to sort out who deserves a fair chance to defend themselves by ideology is what feminists do. And I thought one goal here wa…
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:02 PM
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i don't think a consent app would do any more good than a prenuptial. Recording would be a good option problem is that gets demonized as invasion of privacy.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 12:56 PM
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So my wife has already seen this shared on Facebook. Of course the link claimed MRAs did it.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 01:45 AM
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Considering how easy it is for someone to convince a judge to render a prenuptual void at the drop of a hate I'm not sure how much good these sexual contracts would do. I'd like to see a push to 1 encourage men to Always Be Recording and 2 to loosening of the attitudes around recording one's personal space.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 03:47 PM
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Restraining orders are handed out like popcorn to women, and men have to literally be attacked in the middle of the courtroom to get one. I'm not convinced a guy could get one even then. Judge and court officers would likely just shrug and say he must have done something to deserve it.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:11 PM
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The best revenge is to live a good life. She keeps poking at him because she doesn't want him to have a good life and wants to play the victim while doing it. As long as he is doing well and not letting her wreck his life that is all the revenge he needs.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:08 PM
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This is a hard read. But thankfully it sounds like things are getting better for you and your dogs and that is what counts. Stay Strong! A few more things: I was effectively homeless and even after weeks of searching I couldn't find a shelter for a male DV victim. I was told it was sad since they had female DV openings but couldn't place me there. If the DV shelters in question receive federal funding then supposedly by the VAWA they should not be able to turn you way. That may be worth looking …
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:07 PM
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There are starting to be areas where men are being left behind. A lot of those things have existed for a long time and are just getting noticeable now. Im with you Im not trying to tear all of feminism down but most of the members of that movement really don't want to budge on the starting assumptions they have about men and that seriously gets in the way of conversation.
/r/MensRights15/01/18 08:17 PM
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I get what you're saying but the restaurant is a business and they'll know how to deal with people like the woman. I can agree with that but that should be between the woman the business and what she ate. Him skipping out on his portion just makes him look bad and dishonest to me. The best thing is always preventing these types of situations in the first place as other people have been saying. Very much agreed. Honestly for a first date she wouldn't have gotten anything more than an Applebee's o…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 09:52 PM
1

Oh yeah I remember that now. Thanks for explaining.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 09:35 PM
1

I suppose we will disagree. I can certainly understand doing to her what she would have done to him but I just think its disrespectful to the restaurant to skip out on his own share of the bill. But yeah fuck her and her share of the bill.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 09:34 PM
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SARAH Im not sure what that means.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 07:08 PM
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Just remember that she is not the woman out there. Take the time to heal and don't let this one attempt shape the rest of your life.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 06:55 PM
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I'm not mad. However there are 2 things I have qualms about. If he picked the restaurant he should have picked a less expensive place for a first date. In fact for a first date I would have either cooked at my place and invite her over or picked a place well within my budget like a big chain stop (aka Applebees, Chili's, Olive Garden, etc...) Even if the date was going down the toilet that is no excuse for him to not at least pay his share of the bill. When he bailed he should have at least had …
/r/MensRights12/01/18 06:43 PM
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After the last election I would say no. Almost any time Trump came up there was a definite divide on how good people around there think he would be for America in general and for men specifically. I think what you are seeing is that the ones that are hostile towards women and liberals do so regardless of affiliation with the right and simply more vocal. Also outside of this sub there is a pretty common dichotomy of "either you are against r/mensrights or you are antiwoman/antiliberal" which is a…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 06:32 PM
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How can you stop others from attacking you when you aren't of sound mind and body? You're putting the cart before the horse by expecting men focus solely on external issues even as their internal issues eat them alive. And I'm not sure where the police came from in this.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 06:07 PM
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I think improving the health of men would be an important part in dealing with those direct attacks.
/r/MensRights12/01/18 01:41 PM
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I think sometimes the best way men can take care of each other is to simply listen to them without judgement. As men we are pretty much taught that we are being judged by some measure at all times. "How much money do you make?" "How successful is your business?" "How prepared are you for fatherhood?" "How respectful to women are you?" Men need the space and room to be able to open up without someone standing over us waiting to pass absolute judgement on us. This will give us the room to speak ab…
/r/MensRights12/01/18 01:40 PM
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Yes its rape not "brutal rape". Unless you can show that she did beat him up, tied him down, or something then you are throwing in "brutal" for sensational effect.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:30 PM
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I like this and good on them! Getting more men to speak up will do a lot of good in the long run!
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:23 PM
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I have to disagree. I think there were good intentions in using it to do something about people who have actually done horrible things like Weinstein. But it got out of hand when it was hijacked and because a cool trend. Once it became a trend there was suddenly a need to keep the momentum going. And how do you keep the momentum going? Hint: Reign of Terror. You keep the momentum going by expending the target group. As a result we went from "this guy groped me" to "this guy did something I didn'…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 02:22 PM
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Let's get one thing straight. The ONLY reason women wanted men to speak up is so that they could parrot the usual lines about how men have power, women dont have power, women should be respected, and that men owe it to women to solve this problem for them. Anything outside of 4 for things would be taken support for abusing women (and only women apparently) in Hollywood. About the only possible thing any man could have said there that wouldn't get him trashed would be to speak up for male victims…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 01:56 PM
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I would say that its done a lot of good. Its helped encourage women to break beyond their gender roles. Its helped women get help and support for women they are abused. Its helped women get into fields of work that they were discouraged from in the past. Yes its done a lot of good for women. Now don't take that as an uncritical endorsement of the movement just answer the question of "is it good?". There is plenty wrong with it past and present. Its by no means perfect nor is it all trash.
/r/MensRights09/01/18 07:52 PM
2

I assume she was trying to be funny. She just comes off as poorly ignorant.
/r/MensRights09/01/18 04:29 PM
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The problem is a lot of the guys here either cannot or will not move on past the initial stages of justified anger.
/r/MensRights08/01/18 08:43 PM
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Ive seen a fair amount of his material and the way he is laughing seems pretty different from the way he laughs in his work. I think that was a nervous laughter in hopes of breaking the tension.
/r/MensRights08/01/18 03:24 PM
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So according to the NY Times what he does doesn't matter?
/r/MensRights08/01/18 03:17 PM
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Yeah they do have it going on in some areas but are backwards in others. Shared parenting may be the norm and the draft is gender neutral but at the same time a man can only get a paternity test with a court order and the mother's permission and its a crime to get the testing done in another country.
/r/MensRights03/01/18 07:01 PM
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I think the best way to improve men's mental health for us to decide that we need to do what's best for us and not just wait for some movement with ulterior motives to come along and feed us a line just to get us to follow them blindly. Once we free ourselves we will take care of the rest just fine but as long as we look to others for validation and satisfaction we will continue to get fucked over for the use of others.
/r/MensRights03/01/18 06:58 PM
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Yeah, because you can't commit parental fraud against women lol. True. I'm surprised France hasn't banned it already. They probably will ban it the day its approved for use in nearby countries.
/r/MensRights03/01/18 02:36 PM
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I find myself looking at both and seeing too many problems on both sides. Mainstream black culture can be downright brutal to men largely because it focuses so much on race that gender is often forgotten. Sure gender will get pulled out when its time to brow beat black men over how horrible we are to black women but that's about the only time it comes up. And the manosphere while taking gender into account in ways other than "what are men doing wrong and how can we train them to be better for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:22 PM
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No problem I guess I should have been more clear. Talking about this can get confusing because it was originally developed in India where they have over 10 years of human trial data. So most talk about its success rate and cost effectiveness comes from human trial data of Indian men. I don't know if there is going to be any sort of certification associated with it but honestly I kinda hope there isn't because its not like women are required to get certification over their reproductive changes.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 09:41 PM
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If Vaselgel is that good, why haven't I heard of it before? Is it some new/experimental thing that isn't mainstream yet? For some reason giving men more birth control options is seen as a bad thing (meanwhile more options for women is seen as a good thing). Its so damn cost effective. The drug originated in India over there its effectiveness is over 99% but costs less than $10 for 10 years. And if a guy changes his mind he can pay about $5 to get a second injection that neutralizes the first inj…
/r/MensRights02/01/18 08:40 PM
1

I wouldn't say disposable but more like objects to be used in order secure rights for women where the bar for what's equal for women is an illusion of what feminism has decided life is like for men. Seriously go look up how feminists talk about how men need to show that they are allies to women. By their logic Julius Casear wasn't conquering the known world he was building an alliance.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 08:40 PM
1

No. I'd say it was an inconvenience at worst. The thing about hashtag campaigns is that they mostly fade away because most people are more concerned with chasing and generating outrage than making actual change.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 08:28 PM
1

First I'd report her to the restaurant I work for. Some places would try to either make sure you never deliver to that customer again or maybe even refuse to send delivery to that customer again. It may even be worth reporting to the cops.
/r/MensRights02/01/18 08:24 PM
1

At best the Million Man March was about blackness and manhood was a sub category.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 05:48 PM
5

It seems that so much of what we consider modern masculinity is centered around how attractive women find us. To expand on that I'd say that modern masculinity is centered around gaining female approval. And frankly I don't think that differs very much from traditional masculinity. In the past it was about being a provider/protector. Now its about being flexible enough to be whatever it is she wants even to a man's own personal detriment. The cynical side of me would say that feminists and women…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:42 PM
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MeToo didn't create the rhetoric. It entrenched already existing rhetoric and made things worse.
/r/MensRights27/12/17 01:16 PM
3

Meaning a lot of men literally died for a country but couldn't vote in its elections?
/r/MensRights21/12/17 09:37 PM
1

Disagree, men as a gender will most always look after each other examples being in the military, men would always save fallen brothers, in sports when a teammate is taken advantage of teammates will jump to their aid, on work sites they will look out for their follow workers and back them for safety and to management, most paramedics, fireMEN, and police are men and have dominated these professions of looking out for each other for centuries. But then why doesn't that comradarie not appear so mu…
/r/MensRights20/12/17 10:06 PM
2

But also consider that for the most part men don't look out for each other as a group. Most of that "collaboration" was done by men looking out for themselves only not men as a whole.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 04:08 PM
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Simple. Its because unlike women, men are taught to be suspicious of each other and to not trust each other. This is why its so hard to get men to come together on major issues on a large scale.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 01:41 PM
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Simple. Its because unlike women, men are taught to be suspicious of each other and to not trust each other. This is why its so hard to get men to come together on major issues on a large scale.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 06:53 PM
3

Yes there is truth to it but its a selective framing.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 06:52 PM
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So basically the court decided the daughter having a "strong independent women" role model is more important than having any sort of relationship with her father.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 01:07 PM
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No not this again. I really wish people would stop with this, "X is the new black." nonsense. It reeks of admission that X is not enough of an issue on its own so it tried to borrow from race issues that black people face and implies that race issues have been resolved thus a "new" issue has to be crowned as a replacement. This is an important topic that needs to be talked about but trying to liken it to race issues black people face is not the way to do it. Edit: It would seem I'm not thinking …
/r/MensRights18/12/17 03:30 PM
2

shockingly, not all of society's problems are solved by giving adult men sexual access to teenagers and preteens. I'd be shocked if there was someone who actually says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:24 PM
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This wasn't too bad of a read. I especially enjoy the fact that she doesn't follow the usual rank and file and just blame men for the bad circumstances women find themselves in and actually acknowledges how socialization harms men and boys without reframing them as active agents in putting women in said bad circumstances. While you can say you don't care about this response I think it is at least worth noting that she doesn't do the usual "blame men for everything bad that happens to women" bull…
/r/MensRights15/12/17 04:05 PM
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I refuse to believe that this is anything other than an attempt at satire. Strike 1 As far as we can tell the Council had no awareness of his actions. How can you get of someone for something you don't know about? Strike 2: And where can Amidala go? Her life is in danger, and she has no choice but to stay with Skywalker, who is at turns her protector and her predator. On top of all of this, Skywalker has supernatural powers — he’s one of the strongest beings in the entire galaxy. Talk about a po…
/r/MensRights15/12/17 03:30 PM
1

He's intrinsically hostile to feminism. Revoking the D.C. letter has saved the lives and livelihoods of every falsely-accused uni student. While saving the lives of the falsely accused is important being hostile to feminism will make it more difficult to save them. The Democratic opposition will continue to be gung-ho for radical feminism. Simply being opposed to Democratic adherence to radical feminism isn't going to cut it. Trump for the most part doesn't directly give a damn about men and fra…
/r/MensRights15/12/17 03:27 PM
4

Its like an episode of SVU where the guy that committed the crime did it because he was seeking approval from a woman and all the way up to be carried away he is still trying to impress her and get to acknowledge his presence.
/r/MensRights14/12/17 12:56 PM
12

Um.....why do we need to protect Trump?
/r/MensRights14/12/17 12:53 PM
3

I wouldn't even say they assume the system was designed to help women but more that they know the system was designed to help children but these critics want to intertwine the needs of the mother and child so that they can use "best interests of the child" as a front to cover their real objective of looking out for the best interests of the mother. That or they want to use the child as a weapon against the father.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 07:21 PM
1

I've often heard people say that female against male domestic violence is not the same as male against female domestic violence. You can swap out domestic violence for "abuse", "rape", and "assault".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:43 PM
1

And exactly how does a man's right to know the paternity of a child interfere with that child's wellbeing? There is 0 need for one to take priority over the other. That's like saying the parent's right to choose the color of the child's crib takes a backseat to the child's wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:24 PM
2

I wouldn't say its nonsense but I would be willing to think that there aren't as many men motivated by that as critics would like to have us believe. Considering that child support is sometimes used by women as a way to hurt men it doesn't surprise me that men would try to utilize the system for their own purposes as well.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:10 PM
1

Okay that is true.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:07 PM
5

Please. There are other reasons why he lost so let's not act like it was solely because of the accusations. First and foremost this guy tried to argue that the last time America was great was during the time of slavery on the grounds that despite slavery happening at the time families were strong and the country had direction. http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-last-time-america-great-during-slavery-741845 GTFOH with this bullshit the guy needed to lose even if he hadn't been accused of sex crime…
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:05 PM
6

No the answer to square root of -1 can actually be explained unlike this bullshit.
/r/MensRights13/12/17 02:08 AM
3

Hell half of today's feminists cant even answer those questions. This them trying to encourage the idea that feminists hold their dates to a standard that even they themselves can't/won't meet.
/r/MensRights12/12/17 07:54 PM
11

They don't like the fact that their weapons are double edged and more importantly they don't like the fact that that second edge is being used against them. Now that they have drummed the FUD that they want now they want to damage control and keep it from doing harm to them in kind.
/r/MensRights12/12/17 07:50 PM
2

Just remember not to blanketly declare all groups as bad. Not even feminists. Yes I know its difficult but its in important distinction. Even if you disagree with every part of feminism make sure you are making the distinction that you hate what they stand for not them personally. There are feminists out there that would actually want you to become a woman hater because it feeds their own victim complexes. They want, no they need, to maintain the cycle of hate in order to justify their own exist…
/r/MensRights12/12/17 02:18 PM
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Laws that require joint physical custody could also lead to the elimination of child support in some states, women’s advocates say, disrupting a system that was designed to help women, who have historically been paid less in the workforce while performing more unpaid labor at home. Ive always found this argument odd and almost hypocritical. Supposedly men need to "step up" when it comes to parenting but when they do its suddenly a bad thing because that might mean less child support for women. I…
/r/MensRights12/12/17 02:10 PM
1

Stop using the language of creep to hide behind when you (metaphorical "you" not you specifically OP) want to criticize a guy or blow him off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:45 PM
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I think an issue here is that a few instances of removing "all men are scum" from Facebook is being touted as "Facebook cares about men but not women!" when in fact this is one of the rare cases Facebook actually doing something about such posts. This is a man bites dog situation. Something that happens rarely so it gets major attention and people trying to play up the fact that it got attention as if that means it regularly happens. The reason this got attention was because its rare for Faceboo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:16 PM
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Good luck!!!
/r/MensRights08/12/17 06:51 PM
3

When it was decided that they didn't like nerds and needed a way to openly despite and hate them. Seriously its okay to openly insult and trash something as long as you can associate it with being male.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 03:44 PM
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Its not that those that protect them are explicitly in favor of Hollywood insiders abusing people. Its more like they have decided that protecting their revenue is more important that helping a victim or seeing an abuser brought to justice.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 03:05 PM
1

What exactly is that user doing to warrant banning?
/r/MensRights08/12/17 02:20 PM
1

Yeah its like there is some specific "I want to be angry with feminists" search engine that pulls up past articles for the purpose of getting outraged on demand.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 02:19 PM
1

You know what fuck it I just reported this. There is no effort to get any conversation going no effort to bring attention to something. This is just self righteous rage bait thinly veiled as conversation.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 02:17 PM
3

I have to agree that we could use more specific tags and flairs to talk about specific men's issues around here.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 01:32 PM
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Lack of institutional power.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 01:25 PM
1

And judging by the downvote tally that is exactly what happened. People are too quick to rush to the downvote button because they see something they don't like before fully giving it a spin around in the old noggin.
/r/MensRights08/12/17 01:15 PM
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I can and I bet most people can. The problem is double standard where women are given the latitude to make such jokes but it would be sexism if men said the same.
/r/MensRights07/12/17 07:31 PM
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Id resubmit the same comment without "idiot fucking liar" and see if it gets removed because then instead of trying to argue what constitutes bullying/harassment it would be on Facebook to show what the violation was.
/r/MensRights07/12/17 07:29 PM
1

This is just rage bait. Which is really fucked up because its trying to use a woman's suicide to drum up rage.
/r/MensRights07/12/17 07:25 PM
1

My guess is OP is trying to drum up some ragebait with, "See! Lefties don't respect women!!!" type gotcha.
/r/MensRights07/12/17 07:24 PM
2

What is the position in question?
/r/MensRights06/12/17 05:31 PM
1

That's possible. Again this was a few years ago when I looked into it.
/r/MensRights06/12/17 05:24 PM
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Let them spin their wheels and then go away once they realize they aren't welcome. I would bet that some of actually want to get banned just they can cry foul.
/r/MensRights06/12/17 04:41 AM
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If I recall that post is pretty old. From what I understand when a pregnancy test comes out positive it will only show that positive result for a limited time. Meaning that unless I don't think this can even be done.
/r/MensRights05/12/17 08:46 PM
1

Don't you think that's kind of a cold response? Look I agree there is reason to be skeptical of anyone saying they want to research the MRM but I think Emily here deserves at least a chance to prove herself.
/r/MensRights05/12/17 03:22 AM
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I'm curious about which 143 posts you used and how you selected them. I wonder because most of the time when someone pulls posts about the MRM to draw conclusions about it (of course they call it "examination" or something to make it sound less cherry pickish) it just so happens that only negative posts are ever found. I want to believe that your research could result in you becoming a second Cassie Jaye and what you're doing will be a boon for the MRM. But I also worry you may also be similar t…
/r/MensRights05/12/17 03:16 AM
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Im a bit too hold for your age range but good luck on your efforts Emily!
/r/MensRights04/12/17 09:38 PM
1

There are a lot of valid reasons why he may have behaved this way. No. There is no valid reason why a man would try to cut his wife off from the outside world. There may be reasons for why he did it and that is fine to explore but you seem to want to paint this up as justification for what he did and frankly there isn't. If she was flirting with other guys or even outright cheating with them then there is nothing wrong with not trusting her but if doesn't trust her then why not end the relations…
/r/MensRights04/12/17 06:14 PM
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Not if the female is being violently raped. This includes a lot of screaming and fighting back. Otherwise it's just ruff sex. Get it? So unless she resists, screams, etc.... it must have been consensual? That's a pretty f'd up outlook. Do you apply that same standard to men raped by women? Unless uve caught the b&£ch slagging you off or lying to her friends about him. Why should mothers continue to wear full makeup after having g a child while at home alone? Someone to impress? What does her cho…
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:53 PM
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Funny how the solution is elect more women rather than help men with their problems.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 02:03 PM
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So OP why did you flair this as false accusation? BELIEVE OR SCRUTINSE THE VICTIM? Its called investigate. We have to quit treating rape accusations as either "we must believe them without question" or "we must deny them without question". Can you be violently raped beside a baby and not have it wake? She says she was sobbing the whole time. Likely she was intentionally trying not to wake the baby and she also likely panicked and froze up meaning she didn't put up much resistance. Don't fall for…
/r/MensRights04/12/17 02:01 PM
2

Other than ego stroking what good do these posts do.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 06:42 PM
1

Here's a weird thought (its 1am where I am so bear with me). One defense I often hear about older women going after younger guys is that those older women are enjoying a sexual freedom they were denied when they were younger. Okay then. Then what if, hear me out, what if older men that go for younger women are because of something they missed out on when they were younger? Me personally I do think its quite the double standard to shame old men that are attracted to younger women (and I bet old m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 06:36 AM
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For those who believe "women being cautious of strange men, if not all men" rhetoric is unfair, etc.. where do you think most women learned it? I don't blame any woman for being cautious but I don't think the current fervor over rape culture is as simple as caution. At one point it it may have been simply caution but I think that caution has been utilized and blown into a full on hysteria where its not women being warned to be cautious of men but to go as far as to assume the motives and intent …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 06:24 AM
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But what part of that explains just how many rapes go unreported? One of oddest parts of rape culture I've seen is this odd ability to count unreported rapes. For example I often see stats like "60% of rapes are unreported". How do you even get that stat? And I'm kinda seriously asking because for all the times I've seen it no one has ever been able to explain it. In the end it comes off as padding the numbers to make the problem look worse than it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 05:56 AM
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Oh by all means lend a hand by simply explaining makes you say the Haka is the next thing feminists are going to attack. No more derailing comments. No more insults. No more condescending remarks. What. Do. You. Have. To. Go. On. That. Tells. You. Feminists. Will. Attack. Haka. Next?
/r/MensRights28/11/17 09:06 PM
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You tried to be hyperbolic to drum up some outrage. When questioned about it you switched to claiming it was a joke. Then you resorted to insults. Now its condescension. Quite trying to move the goalposts just to feel better about yourself. But just to entertain you I'll ask. Exactly what makes you think that the Haka chant will be the next thing feminists attack? Why not the color blue itself? Why not grilling? Why not double edge razors? Or perhaps beer? Simply put what exactly tipped you off …
/r/MensRights28/11/17 08:19 PM
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I doubt it. She is likely just the first high profile person do have done all that.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 05:05 PM
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What growing up? You gonna back pedal and say it was a joke? You still want people to think the Haka chant is under attack with 0 evidence or link to any feminist saying so? Now you're just resorting to insults to save face and cover ass.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 01:08 PM
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So now instead of "Hey look I just got banned from r/feminism!" we now have "Hey look I just got banned from r/gendercritical!".
/r/MensRights28/11/17 02:31 AM
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The part where you're just tossing baseless accusations to get people riled up.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 02:23 AM
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Everything under the sun that is male is being attacked and destroyed by feminists, SJWs, and other mental defectives. Then post about something they are actually doing.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 12:27 AM
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So then you have a link, a post, an article, or something on a feminist complaining about or attacking the chant? They are doing plenty of things that warrant calling them out there is no need to make shit up.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 12:25 AM
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Okay this chant has been pretty well known for the last decade or so so why would feminists attack it now? And not just some vague "because they hate everything about masculinity". Have you seen any feminists comment on the dance or anything specifically any behavior that seems like an attack? This post is literally a video of the chant and your headline saying feminists are going to attack it next.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 09:18 PM
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It blatantly is. You can easily find a gender swapped version of this and ask such questions. For example one of the many cases where an under age boy and under age girl have sex and only the under age boy is charged with a crime.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 01:40 PM
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So basically, "The frat knew their were holes in Jackie's story and should have warned us about them!" The magazine is actually saying the accused should have warned them about the story not being solid before they ran the story? The accused is responsible for warning the media that the accuser's has discrepancies? The fuck?
/r/MensRights23/11/17 02:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure some of the members of that frat actually received threats, their house was vandalized, and the university banned them from holding any functions or activities on campus for a few weeks starting from when the article was published.
/r/MensRights23/11/17 02:52 PM
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Its possible but the hard part is that unless he says something that's pure speculation. And to make it even harder if he says something now it will Kevin Spacey all over again. "You're only speaking up about being abused now to deflect the accusations of abuse against you!"
/r/MensRights22/11/17 07:29 PM
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But yeah #masculinitysofragile right? Like I get that she is bothered by things like that. But after a few decades of making it out to be that the things that bother women are systemic and cultural issues that men are responsible for fixing while the things that bother men are individual personal issue that men are responsible for its incredibly difficult to get outraged.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 09:25 PM
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DV is a horrible thing and I dont want to dump on him over his experiences. However I have no problem pointing out how sexist and incorrect it is to take those experiences and conclude that men are the problem as if its a brand new solution. Thing is DV has been propped up as being a men's problem for several decades and we have yet to see hardly any positive return on the narrative. This is getting into insanity territory. How about we focus on the violence instead of the gender?
/r/MensRights21/11/17 09:20 PM
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If you want a place to talk about getting help meeting women, go for it. If you want a place to talk when things go badly with women, talk away. But this isn't a place to constantly piss on women and refusing to do something with yourself and for yourself when it comes to dating.
/r/MensRights20/11/17 07:03 PM
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Remember male victims don't face difficulties trying to get help. Only female victims do.
/r/MensRights20/11/17 02:44 AM
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If you do that it may be worth trying to contact her. I don't think you would need her permission but I bet she would appreciate knowing that people are trying to incorporate their material into school school.
/r/MensRights17/11/17 04:11 PM
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Have you ever felt cheated out of thing because you are a man? Yes. I do think that since I am a guy I have been denied degrees of sympathy, empathy, understanding and compassion that are readily extended to women. Now while I know some may be quick to think that things like those don't matter as much as jobs, pay, etc... but you'd be surprised how much good those things do. How did become involved/find out about in this community? I found it in my efforts to find space to talk to guys without w…
/r/MensRights17/11/17 04:10 PM
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I remember saying this months ago and no one listened but its good to see people come around to it. Laci wasn't red pilled. She didn't stop being a feminist. She simply took a step towards actual communication by actually being brave (for a feminist) enough to start listening to other sides rather than blanketly attacking them simply because they aren't feminist.
/r/MensRights17/11/17 01:44 PM
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Since I wouldn't interpret you grabbing my arm as sexually assault I wouldn't stab. However if you are trying to grope me in a sexual manner I just might. I guess your healthy logic says that I wait until you have sexually assaulted me to decide if I should protect myself. Yeah.....
/r/MensRights17/11/17 01:38 PM
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No the problem is he touched her. If he had catcalled her then stabbing would be wrong. If he had called her names then stabbing would be wrong. If he was staring at her then stabbing would be wrong. However if he actually put his hands on her then I don't see a problem with stabbing him to get him away from her. But I also agree that chasing him was wrong. In fact if she chased him to stab him some more I wouldn't see anything wrong with charging her with assault.
/r/MensRights17/11/17 11:39 AM
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If he groped her and she stabbed him then I got no problem. But I do have a problem with if she chased him down to stab him some more. That's not self defense that is assault. Even police are trained not to shoot a fleeing suspect.
/r/MensRights16/11/17 01:57 PM
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That's what I was thinking.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 06:48 AM
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Well I did like the parts with the guys. I especially liked how Joe spent a lot of the episode freaking out over Cecile being pregnant and wondering how he can handle raising another child. It was a pretty nice display a guy being worried about something and not getting shamed/attacked while being vulnerable. In the end IMO it was really only the dialogue for the women's side and Cecile's daughter's storyline that were cringey.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 09:25 PM
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"men who committed harassment" "perpetuated rape culture" "turn a blind eye" "complain about reverse sexism" A long convoluted way to say all men but without the risk of getting called out for generalizing all men. This makes so much sense considering the last episode of Flash (which was actually titled "Girls Night Out" where Bett guest starred and went out with Iris, Kate, and Cecile on a bachelorette outing and ended up dealing with the threat of the week all on their own). I loved the idea o…
/r/MensRights13/11/17 07:32 PM
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So how long before he is shamed into backpedaling on his remarks like the guy from Game of Thrones that basically apologized for bringing up sexism against men?
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:57 PM
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I would warn you that unless you are just going to agree with everything they say without question any attempt to make yourself known will likely be interpreted as "causing a ruckus". And from there it will be just a downhill drop as you trying to speak up is taken out of context (and likely outright lied about) as fuel to justify why they are there or some shit. I'd instead recommend trying to get something going for men. Its likely too late to do something in relation to IMD this year since it…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 07:35 PM
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Its simple. IMD is not a product of progressives/liberals/feminists/etc..... That is the main reason so many people don't like it. They can blow smoke up our asses about "problematic parts of the IMD and the groups that participate" but notice that rather than picking and choosing between the good and bad they just blanketly declare the whole thing as bad. (Contrast that with how they act when you try to do the same to them.) They are mad that there is growing concern for the well being of men f…
/r/MensRights10/11/17 04:31 PM
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It makes sense if you consider the fact that white women can be fucking treacherous. They will in one breath sell out white men for their sisterhood and in the next breath will sell out non white women for their whitehood. In her mind as a woman even though she is white has zero responsibility for the way things are and it was totally the fault of white men. She probably also thinks that white women had nothing to do with slavery.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 04:15 PM
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I don't think those things I'm answering OP's question of, "Why Would Any Feminist Object To These?" based on what I have seen from feminists. I don't think they are mutually exclusive and I also think that you not only can focus primarily around the well being of one or the other but to an extent I think that gender focus is sometimes necessary.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 08:52 PM
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Because the pillars don't center around the well being of women. Because the pillars actually center around the well being of men. Because IMD isn't a feminist invention. Seriously take your pick.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 01:19 PM
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Its a private function by a private business. Rather than trying to go after the club for doing such pricing I say its better to reach out to guys to help them realize that they are being treated like cash cows. (And it might be worth helping women realize that these clubs are literally using them for bait to draw guys in.)
/r/MensRights08/11/17 02:47 PM
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Let me guess is this the same logic as the late 90s where people who download music were deemed "similar" to download child porn by the record industry?
/r/MensRights07/11/17 03:10 PM
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That's exactly what I'm talking about but since downvoting is easier than paying attention to context it goes over people's heads.
/r/MensRights01/11/17 03:54 PM
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From the link. "...so men or women who remove or tamper with condoms should be liable for monetary damages,.." Looks like it is gender neutral.
/r/MensRights31/10/17 06:40 PM
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I guess it's an attempt to make up for the "Pink Tax".
/r/MensRights31/10/17 06:38 PM
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What does this have to do with feminism? Also what does her lifting her skirt expose harassment?
/r/MensRights30/10/17 03:31 PM
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Par for the course.
/r/MensRights28/10/17 01:35 PM
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Don't know but here is an upvote to balance it out.
/r/MensRights28/10/17 01:32 PM
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Got link to the whole work?
/r/MensRights27/10/17 03:54 AM
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You're right it doesn't. They are shoehorning it into talking about DV because in their minds being supportive of men for the own sake is something they can't fathom or can fathom and refuse to acknowledge it. To them the primary reason to support men is to make them better allies to women and men's own sake and well being takes a distant second.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:23 PM
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If she didn't care then why bother making a public post on the internet about it?
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:19 PM
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You know good on him for speaking up. Sure you can say he should have spoken up sooner but better late than never. All too often men suffer horrible marriages in silence thinking its their duty or something. Glad he spoke up.
/r/MensRights25/10/17 04:18 PM
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The fuck? Well if the point is marketing then let them have their calendar and when it fails it will fail on its own rather than trying to forcefully stop it. Also regardless of the ratio of ugly and hot women in the MRM and the Right I think it's a worthwhile idea for them to show they suppprtive of the issues rather than looks.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:26 PM
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I think it would be worth finding out who they are (especially if one was a professor) and go about trying to report it to someone on campus. That to me is clear harassment. And frankly if that were me I would have stayed in the damn elevator just to spite them until I got to where I was actually going.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 03:40 PM
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Why stop them though? I'd rather just pick and choose which ones I want to look at and let the rest of them go on about their business. Trying to stop the ugly ones is not only fucking horrible but will devolve into trying to decide who is ugly and do you know who the "pretty" women will likely side with? The "ugly" ones that get trashed. Next thing you know its chaos.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 02:00 PM
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Nah let them do their thing and have their moment. Then around November 19 drop something like #menarepeople. something open ended that allows men to speak up with whatever is in our hearts and on our minds.
/r/MensRights20/10/17 01:57 PM
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Um thats not how that works. We can just simply not look at the calendar. "Not meaning to be rude" the says rude shit.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 11:47 PM
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Good work. Hope those kids get the help they need.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 11:44 PM
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Contact the police and get help. Even if they don't immediately help you report it anyway so that if something bad happens or it escalates you can point to that record as established history of her behavior. Report the fuck out of her. On facebook (and other media she is harassing you on) and especially to the police.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 05:58 PM
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Black men are second tier because we still have the original sin of being male but don't have the original sin of being white.
/r/MensRights19/10/17 05:49 PM
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Well played....
/r/MensRights19/10/17 01:16 AM
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Don't get caught up in comparing the discrimination one group faces with another. All that does is devolve into useless arguing.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 07:47 PM
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So in other words its okay to help men as a side project just not as a main focus?
/r/MensRights18/10/17 03:12 PM
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That's because to them boys = the top elite 1% of boys that actually do have all the privileges that are regularly projected onto all boys. Its kinda like in the US when women go on about what their lives would be like if they were men and they manage to only ever reference the absolute top elite of privileged men as if they represent the average American man.
/r/MensRights18/10/17 01:36 PM
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Here is something I was thinking. Perhaps instead of wasting time on #metoo guys with their own stories come up with their own tag. Maybe follow Terry Crew's lead with something like #liketerrysaid
/r/MensRights18/10/17 04:11 AM
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Make sure to take off the cover for the last hour so the top can get nice and golden brown.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 09:08 PM
2

Something something dependency.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 08:06 PM
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This had to be written by a person that has never been a man in a room full of women. That's the only way they could have written this.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 08:05 PM
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I think despite the encouragement only being extended to women I think this is one of those times where male victims need to pull a, "Fuck You" and use the tag anyway.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 02:27 PM
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Might as well have started that off with "no offense but..."
/r/MensRights17/10/17 02:26 PM
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And that is why i refuse to fuck with this hashtag. I don't have time for social media grandstanding by people who care because it's cool right now.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 12:29 AM
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What part of landing got messed up by his shirt? And no people getting offended by his shirt doesnt count unless you can show it actually interfered with the landing.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 01:30 AM
2

I dont think you can be drunk enough to comprehend that.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 01:28 AM
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Why why are you here? Seriously what do you hope to gain by coming into a thread, insulting the reddit, and name dropping another reddit that has a history of insulting this one. You're just proving why MensLib is a sham.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 02:11 AM
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If you can't point it out, you may be projecting it. Seriously your first comment on this post was, "I forgot how caustic and bitter the sentiment is in this sub." What does that have to do with the article I posted or something someone in this post said? And if it relates to a comment said in this post then why not reply to that comment directly? Next you said, "lol. I just had a comment removed because I linked to the more positive sub." It is common place for subreddits to block links to othe…
/r/MensRights14/10/17 02:00 AM
1

By consessions I mean spoon feeding it to them in a way they understand. Not actually supporting the harm of people.
/r/MensRights14/10/17 02:00 AM
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So where is the negativity that you're talking about? I notice that people who like to promote MenLib will do so solely as a backhanded way to trash this sub. Its like they don't know how to be positive without being negative about this place and the MRM in general. Goodbye and Good Luck I suppose.
/r/MensRights13/10/17 09:06 PM
1

Is that towards some of the comments in this post or to the post itself?
/r/MensRights13/10/17 07:57 PM
10

Sure go ahead and paint women into a corner. They are being told in one ear to not trust men that don't try to side with them and in the other they are being told not to trust men that do try to side with them. Good Luck Ladies.
/r/MensRights13/10/17 07:01 PM
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The issue is that the supposed benefits are contested but despite that circumcision is still heavily pushed. Speaking of benefits did you know that removed foreskins are used in cosmetics? Even Oprah has endorsed such cosmetics. Look I understand that sometimes circumcision is medically necessary but it is being pushed as good thing that seems to be in the interests of everyone except the people that are getting cut. And also how do you know you're better off having been cut?
/r/MensRights13/10/17 04:39 PM
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Yes that is a flaw. The adherence to feminist sensibilities does hinder the conversation on these things but unfortunately feminists have the power in this conversation so some consessions are just going to be necessary. But at the very least forcing a look at it through the feminist lens does present a situation. If the information is presented through a feminist lens (meaning that its framed in a manner that is consistent with feminist ideology) and feminism/feminists STILL reject it then that…
/r/MensRights13/10/17 03:56 PM
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See that's the odd part. For all the talk of rape culture it is usually exclusively only used to refer to male against female rape and all other forms of rape are talked about with the use of that term. For example of often is the term rape culture brought up when talking about priests abusing children? Compare that to how often its brought up when talking about men catcalling, groping, and whistling women.
/r/MensRights13/10/17 03:54 PM
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Im not sure why acted scenarios like this keep getting presented like "OMG I didn't know this could happen!". We know it happens. Every few years some network or tv show does this experiment and the results almost always come out the same way. A long time ago when Tyra Banks had her own talk show she did something similar where she had actors portraying three scenarios: A guy abusing his boyfriend, a man abusing his girlfriend, and a woman abusing her girlfriend. She had them act out each multip…
/r/MensRights13/10/17 12:54 PM
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Forgot to mention that I found this at femradebates.
/r/MensRights13/10/17 12:32 PM
5

Realize It? Shit they count on it.
/r/MensRights13/10/17 12:49 AM
3

Id like to know where she that 41.6 million a year from.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 08:51 PM
3

Good point. I'm not sure what date ranges you include when you "modern schooling" but I can say that at least when I was a teenager there was definitely an air of encouraging boys to make fun of and mistreat each other even in times of suffering. And this was supported not only by boys but by girls as well. Its seen as a way to show that you are a "real man". The reason boys do that to each other is because they learn that its not only okay to do it but that they must do it as a part of gaining …
/r/MensRights12/10/17 03:56 PM
15

Well bear in mind that the MRM isn't bound to only discuss legal matters.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 03:45 PM
43

So men just simply aren't called jerks, assholes, pricks, or dicks? Are we now literally erasing history in order to highlight the victimization of women?
/r/MensRights12/10/17 02:56 PM
2

Remember to save these stats for IMD as well. They may not be men yet but that doesn't mean we can't lend a helping hand to them.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 07:28 PM
4

Hope you stick around. Do you have any specific things to ask?
/r/MensRights11/10/17 07:16 PM
1

Isn't that Valentine's Day?
/r/MensRights11/10/17 02:29 PM
4

I'm glad he spoke up. I really hope that in addition to him gaining some closure (or whatever support he needs) I really hope this helps to lift the illusion that abuse is something men commit against women.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 02:09 AM
1

Maybe if female feminists actually put some thought into which male feminists they trusted instead of acting like they are the second coming of Jesus and throwing them in the faces of non feminist men then crying foul when they turn out to be horrible people. But no instead they would rather collectively slam male feminists and foster an inherent distrust of them all rather than they taking it upon themselves to pick and choose which ones to trust and god forbid they quit thinking that the label…
/r/MensRights10/10/17 03:43 PM
1

Maybe if female feminists actually put some thought into which male feminists they trusted instead of acting like they are the second coming of Jesus and throwing them in the faces of non feminist men then crying foul when they turn out to be horrible people. But no instead they would rather collectively slam male feminists and foster an inherent distrust of them all rather than they taking it upon themselves to pick and choose which ones to trust and god forbid they quit thinking that the label…
/r/MensRights10/10/17 03:43 PM
1

Maybe if female feminists actually put some thought into which male feminists they trusted instead of acting like they are the second coming of Jesus and throwing them in the faces of non feminist men then crying foul when they turn out to be horrible people. But no instead they would rather collectively slam male feminists and foster an inherent distrust of them all rather than they taking it upon themselves to pick and choose which ones to trust and god forbid they quit thinking that the label…
/r/MensRights10/10/17 03:43 PM
1

Maybe if female feminists actually put some thought into which male feminists they trusted instead of acting like they are the second coming of Jesus and throwing them in the faces of non feminist men then crying foul when they turn out to be horrible people. But no instead they would rather collectively slam male feminists and foster an inherent distrust of them all rather than they taking it upon themselves to pick and choose which ones to trust and god forbid they quit thinking that the label…
/r/MensRights10/10/17 03:42 PM
5

I'd like for someone to tell me exactly which movies MRAs have tried to prevent from being seen. Because I can name at least one that feminists have tried to stop people from seeing.
/r/MensRights10/10/17 02:06 AM
1

But....what good did it do? Sure you got some ragebait stirred up but its pointless. No minds changed. No discussion had.
/r/MensRights09/10/17 02:53 AM
0

Just slow down, breathe, and try to understand my words instead of looking for a chance to outrage and grandstand. I'm saying it's bullshit that RAINN treated him that. Or would you rather continue playing internet tough guy?
/r/MensRights05/10/17 01:37 AM
8

In short its preemptively declaring that if male feminists have any problems with feminism the problem is with men not feminism. Ignore.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 07:36 PM
0

While I understand your position (or think that I do), I don't agree. Because letting that situation exist creates outcomes like this. It is a difficult position. I just think that rather than trying to stomp out the existence of services that only serve women effort would be better spent in building up and fostering services that only serve men. When it comes to something like finding help when abused Im okay with the existence of male only spaces and female only spaces. I've called R.A.I.N.N. …
/r/MensRights04/10/17 07:16 PM
1

Since it appears to be just a social get together I don't think there is much to be bothered by. Yes I agree these same people would probably scream the bloodiest of murder if a male only ride were to happen but at that point I would just act the same way they are acting about this female only ride and then let their hypocrisy come to the surface as they try to explain why female only rides are okay but male only rides are not.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 07:11 PM
2

So here is a link to the course: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/understanding-violence-against-women?lr=101 It appears to be a website that offers free courses to educate people on various subjects but nothing seriously accredited like a university.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 06:57 PM
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I dont have a problem with an org offering services to women only. What I have a problem with that offering services to men is seen as the height of misogyny.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 01:09 PM
1

At best you would get Mens Rights discussions that don't always bring up feminism because frankly expecting the MRM to never talk about feminism is like expecting feminism to never talk about men. I respect your efforts but are you willing to practice what you preach? Can you talk about equality for women without ever talking about men?
/r/MensRights28/09/17 02:11 PM
1

I am honestly surprised that an article from that site actually talks about something that directly affects men from an actual male perspective rather than the usual "This thing that affects males is bad for women so it has to change!".
/r/MensRights28/09/17 02:08 PM
4

Here's the thing. A lot of the female equivalents of the things that harm and affect men are called sexism, misogyny, and oppression. So I have 0 problem calling them sexism, misandry, and oppression when it comes to men. The right words are already there but feminists go out of their way to avoid those words because they think they should be reserved for women only. Fuck that use the right words.
/r/MensRights28/09/17 02:06 PM
5

I respect him. Honestly I think he did more for women than any of the blue haired internet loudmouths that claim be supportive of women running around today.
/r/MensRights28/09/17 02:01 PM
1

I mean, was he expecting light-lipped loyalty or something? No I bet he was expecting a conversation not to get fired. That's the problem. He wrote the memo it was leaked outside of his intended audience and then he was fired for it. And on top of that his concerns have been intentionally misshapen by critics. The way he was treated proved his concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 11:03 AM
2

Is likely laugh then use it on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:51 AM
0

Klingons modeled after Trump? This isn't new ground this is just taking what has been established by past Star Trek lore and appropriating it for SJW appeal.
/r/MensRights27/09/17 06:46 PM
103

Im all for it but I fully expect any antiMRA to skip over this post the next time they come skimming for things to complain about on Cracked.
/r/MensRights27/09/17 02:36 PM
11

Really don't care since basic tampons can be bought in bulk for probably the price of the paper towels in bathrooms. I don't think there is much of a problem hete.
/r/MensRights10/09/17 02:43 PM
1

Where are the feminists that have a problem with this ad? Look I'm all for good portrayals of dads but there is no need to drag feminism into every post.
/r/MensRights02/09/17 12:09 AM
5

Alt Right or Manosphere which is it because they are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:53 PM
1

I posted this a few days ago and someone commented declaring it was wrong but never actually explained what parts were wrong or offered contradicting history. So I ask again, what's the lie here?
/r/MensRights25/08/17 12:37 PM
1

So what exactly is he lying about? I'm not trying put you on the spot but I'd rather try to talk these things out
/r/MensRights23/08/17 12:53 AM
2

No they were guilty as fuck. They were on camera performing sex acts on her unconscious body. This caused a lot of heat because it looked like the school was covering it up and because it divided the town. Some supported her and some supported the players. It was controversial but not because it may have been false.
/r/MensRights22/08/17 06:56 PM
1

I call it equal opportunity. Make sure both have the same fair chance to see over the fence.
/r/MensRights20/08/17 05:27 AM
1

Proven liar? As in she was proven to be lying in this case?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 03:38 AM
1

I'm not sure on those stats. But I do think it's fair to want to see autistic people from other walks of life though simply because the autistic population isnt made of 100% white guys.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 07:00 PM
2

I can go on about how the bodies are different even IF a potential female seal recruit passed the training. And if those things prevent her from doing the job she will be removed/replaced. That still doesn't justify blanketly barring all women from even trying. If anything all women don't mensturate and of the ones that do that may try put may take birth control methods to stop menstruation. As for kids sure a woman can get pregnant but there are plenty who put off having kids specifically to pu…
/r/MensRights16/08/17 04:38 PM
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Not true but even if they were there is 0 harm in letting them try. If a few of them pass then fine. The tests are there to weed out the ones that cant hack it so why bother putting up artificial gender barriers?
/r/MensRights16/08/17 03:01 AM
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You know I'm okay with the fact that they tried and failed. Equal opportunity has been achieved in the mere fact that women are now able to try to become SEAL Officers. And I'll be honest that woman who failed could probably kick my ass from one end of the ship to the other so respect to her for trying. As long as there was no cheating or bullying or hazing or harassment to try to force her to quit I'm okay with this.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 11:40 PM
3

So is the writer upset over a lack of autistic characters who aren't white guys (which I think is a fair observation) or that white autistic guys aren't lectured about their white male privileged every 30 seconds?
/r/MensRights15/08/17 06:07 PM
1

Assuming I have knowledge of my previous life then male because it's what I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:50 PM
5

I get ypur point but Steve Willkos is basically a low budget Dr Phil. Hardly worth getting riled up over.
/r/MensRights14/08/17 08:33 PM
3

At this point they have invested so heavily in the thought terminating cliche they are now just doing it to maintain face. I honestly think a lot of them know they are wrong but to admit it would cost them too much so now they just constantly double down on it to save face. I don't think anyone here has suppprted what this clowns are doing in Charlottesvill but rather than see they they assume we support it in order to maintain their biases because they have so much riding on those biases.
/r/MensRights13/08/17 02:26 PM
5

Damn Im sorry that you have to have this shit happen in your city.
/r/MensRights13/08/17 02:22 PM
2

Look at the timeline. They conveniently admit it was discriminatory about a month and a half after the movie's theatrical run? They excluded men and now this is a bone they are throwing to try to shut them up after they got all that free publicity for those woman only showings. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the Drafthouse actually PLANNED to offer the DVDs as a contingency tactic in case they got any heat over it. Like a literal, "If too many men get upset well offer some sort of compensation …
/r/MensRights09/08/17 04:11 AM
1

Where did you get this title? Seriously unless something is wrong with my phone all it says is: Hanging 'bra-skets' pop up across town Bras full of plants are popping up all over Northampton. The hanging "bra-skets" are a full-frontal floral assault on the senses created by members of Northampton Martini's Women's Institute.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 03:58 AM
1

I wouldn't even give them the satisfaction of being able to accuse you of making s mess or wasting their time. If you want to get in their faces picket. And when they ask, "Why don't you respond to women being paid less than men like this?" tell them "Okay point to exactly which companies are paying women less than men and I will."
/r/MensRights09/08/17 03:51 AM
2

Which is what most of these gender swaps of established characters are motivated by. The idea that female characters cant build a following of their own so they must take over established male characters as if they were just given a following.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 06:47 PM
3

The same reason Neo was shocked when Morpheus showed him the Matrix.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 07:16 AM
1

You're welcome to think whatever you want but he made the comment and we are all free to discuss it.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 05:58 PM
2

Loss of role model for boys? Ovee dramatic much?
/r/MensRights21/07/17 10:53 AM
6

I think at minimum they should have to show proof of the child's wellbeing.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 08:47 PM
11

This is why I have no time for women complaining about men liking women who are "barely legal".
/r/MensRights20/07/17 01:22 PM
3

I won't say its a total load of balls but there is a lot of bullshit in it.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 01:16 PM
2

Yes. I can't define it but rest assured its bad, every copy of Windows perpetuates it, and every copy of Windows benefits from it.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 12:20 AM
1

Okay so is this about questioning TRP or just yet another attempt at absolving women of their responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:31 PM
2

If he was born white in the 19th century he would have been one of the men organizing lynching parties against blacks falsely accused of rape by white women. While at the same time wanting a legal system that will give him due process so he can get away with raping a black woman
/r/MensRights18/07/17 02:05 PM
9

Apparently it comes pre-installed on all builds of the Y Chromosome. Like Solitaire on all Windows machines.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 01:43 PM
3

Agreed. This is low hanging rage bait fruit.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 01:23 PM
7

I don't want them banned. I want people to realize how sexist and offensive they are and stop supporting them.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 01:20 PM
1

I sense a total smear campaign going on here, there will likely be a propaganda wave readied by these people in order to try and scare Betsy DeVos into sticking with the establishment status quo. Oh feminist piss babies have already started chattering on Twitter.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 10:51 PM
3

Oh thank goodness. I was getting a bit annoyed by having to search for an article to get the full context after someone posted a specific paragraph or comment.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 10:41 PM
13

I came here to say this.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 09:18 PM
9

In other words, "Questioning a complainants sexual history is only bad when the accused is male."
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:49 PM
2

Damned if you do damned if you dont. If he hadn't helped her and she got kidnapped for real men would still be collectively blamed.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:03 PM
1

Nah those imply that they may not know better. I no longer believe that in that possibility. There is intent behind such an attitude.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 02:58 PM
12

To the privileged, a level playing field feels like oppression.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 02:24 AM
2

Arrogance Pride Hubris Take your pick because those are about the only reasons anyone thinks their ideology is perfect.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 02:11 AM
1

Dude toxic masculinity is responsible for the following (but not limited to): 1. The extinction of the dinosaurs. The cancelling of Sleepy Hollow. The first two (but not last two) of the Buffalo Bills 4 Super Bowl losses. Why Clinton lost in 2008 and 2016. Why hot dogs come in packs of 10 bit hot dog rolls comes in packs of 8.
/r/MensRights28/06/17 08:05 PM
3

In other news, "Unsanitary Conditions: An Unseen Force In Civil War Casualties" That's what's that title sounds like. Like people that have spend years ignoring something plainly true are now trying to spin it as new upcoming problem that wasn't there before.
/r/MensRights28/06/17 07:42 PM
2

This is why I think the conversation is better served not dwelling on which crime is worse than another.
/r/MensRights26/06/17 04:11 PM
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I'm not sure what the issue is. As long as you have access to the bathroom whats the big deal. It's not like it's labeled "Everyone Except Cis Males".
/r/MensRights25/06/17 08:41 PM
6

Apologize for What? 1 person said the title is misleading. 1 person made a current year joke. 1 person us at least trying to support the assertion. And then you come along just to call me smug and ask for an apology. Make a valid point and I might think about it.
/r/MensRights25/06/17 05:28 AM
3

Let me clarify. When I said, "Because male against male violence is readily acknowledged unlike female against male violence." I meant outside of this sub. Its like asking why don't people bring sand to the beach. Its already everywhere so why should it be brought up here?
/r/MensRights25/06/17 04:34 AM
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Because male against male violence is readily acknowledged unlike female against male violence. Men kill and rape each other day. Maybe it's time for us to stop focusing on and blaming women, and start figuring out why we as men hurt each other and just don't care about it. Personally I'd rather focus on male victims regardless of their attacker. So to that end by all means bring male against male violence here if you wish.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 11:28 PM
2

I agree they should both be allowed and that we shouldnt try to rank them but they are not the same concept.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 08:33 PM
22

Is this really regarded as a feminist movie or is this just more reach to find and excuse to jab at feminism?
/r/MensRights24/06/17 07:12 PM
2

Yes there is certainly sexism and discrimination against women. It's easy to think we do because of the false equivalency that feminism = women that exists solely as a way to accuse anyone critical of feminism of hating women in order to shame/silence them.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 07:10 PM
2

I'm not saying we should be expected to be uncomfortable in public. I'm saying the comfort of our balls isnt the same as the convenience and necessity of breastfeeding. They are both important in their own right but they aren't close enough to being the same thing to make an analogy like this.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 07:06 PM
3

But they aren't the same thing. It's not unreasonable to be supportive of rape victims and want to help endangered animals but they are 2 different issues/causes.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 11:12 AM
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I think this is a bit of a reach.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 04:39 AM
7

I am curious what of anything will be done about that. Because Id to believe that personally insulting people at a panel is grounds for taking some sort of action. But if not then guess who may need to be boycotted next year?
/r/MensRights23/06/17 11:50 PM
3

Yeah imagine being a parent that has to pay child support to the woman that raped your under age son.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 03:27 PM
4

To the privileged, a level playing field feels like oppression.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 03:26 PM
5

"Wait, feminism means more stuff for women, not for men!" Well considering feminism starts with the assumption that men already have what women deserved this outlook doesnt surprise me.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 04:40 PM
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He pens post after post chastising men for not adopting the tenets of feminism.... My money says he never actually addresses why men dont adopt the tenants of feminism, declares all reasons for not doing so wrong, and then lectures men on how they must embrace feminism. In other words, a load of bull.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 02:14 PM
1

But legal can be enforced and gives dads a fighting chance.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 11:52 AM
1

I wonder what would happen if a man claimed to be a victim of female perpetrated DV. A new clause would be added that a false claim of DV should mandate loss of custody.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 11:51 AM
2

This really does give a good hard look at a gap that simply isnt talked about often because it favors women and for some reason bringing it up is spun as hatred of women and claims that the MRM only bring it up because they want to reduce women's life expectancy. I think it's pretty clear that supporting men to help them achieve more years in retirement would be a good thing.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 11:45 AM
1

I love how they try to compare her, a relative no one, to an actor with established street cred instead of to another comic book movie hero in a similar position. Chris Evans should have been thankful to get that much for Cap 1 considering he came into them after the failures that were the Fantastic Four movies.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 02:00 PM
3

Notice that when feminists argue against PUA tactics they choose to try to silence them and convince men that they don't work rather than educating women so that they won't work. I'm slowly starting to think they hate PUA not because it teaches men to "use women and reduce them to sexual trophies". They are mad because PUAs have decided to game a system that has favored women for ages for their benefit. That's why they try to hard to label PUAs as rapists and all other sorts of horrible labels a…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 01:31 PM
6

Yeah it has nothing to do with the fact that Cavil has other credits to his name before becoming Superman. Cavill was one of the more important characters on the show The Tudors. Gadot's biggest role before becoming WW is like being in a few Fast and Furious movies. What people don't realize is that now that Gadot has a major movie credit to her name she NOW has the star power to command a bigger paycheck. That's feminism for you. They think they are entitled to the same outcome as someone that …
/r/MensRights21/06/17 01:23 PM
1

Quite the clever move actually. They get all the benefits of being a martyr plus the bonus of still being alive in order to repeat the process and become even more of a martyr. For example imagine of Mattress Girl had killed herself instead of carrying that mattress around as it it were the cross Jesus carried? She wouldn't be around to be given a reward from NOW for her bravery in falsely accusing a man of rape. But now she is free to falsely accuse another man of rape all over again.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 01:17 PM
3

I would call it assault or rape or any sort of crime. He was a jerk for doing it and I don't see anything wrong with her dumping his ass because there is a chance he may try to do it again in the future. But I wouldn't try to criminalize it.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 12:53 PM
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Absent reports of domestic violence, judges would be required to award joint legal custody of children to divorcing parents under a bill that passed the House Judiciary Committee today. If a "report of domestic violence" can throw the possibility of joint custody out the window then I think we can all guess whats going to happen....
/r/MensRights21/06/17 12:44 PM
1

From what I saw of the trailer I wouldn't say it was anti male just uninspired and unfunny. The problem is we are in an age where such movies staring men are derided with cries of misogyny and immaturity while simultaneously pushing for women to star in literally the same type of movie and make bank and be praised as good cinema. On a side note I ScarJo attempting to get something else going in her career so that she is known for more than her work in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (especially si…
/r/MensRights20/06/17 01:18 PM
1

What book is this?
/r/MensRights20/06/17 12:54 AM
25

I'm sorry what did she say? I don't speak Child Molester.
/r/MensRights19/06/17 07:51 PM
1

The guys flew a drone over their ship to record them. That's the peeping. And trying to force the manspreading here is a reach at inciting some heat. Manspreading has nothing to do with some guys flying a drone around recording people.
/r/MensRights19/06/17 07:43 PM
1

You title this as if its a bad thing peeping tom were held responsible for their actions. Also why try to bring manspreading into this?
/r/MensRights19/06/17 03:17 PM
1

An overreaching and ultimately funny attempt at trying to predict what critics of feminism will say in order to dismiss what they will say in a flashy fashion but without actually addressing what they are saying.
/r/MensRights19/06/17 03:11 PM
1

And what would that be? Or have you managed to prove that the entire rest of the male gender would not have sex with her?
/r/MensRights16/06/17 11:13 PM
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