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What does the average circumcision look like?

Eryemil

June 11, 2015

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Title	What does the average circumcision look like?
Author	Eryemil
Upvotes	9
Comments	15
Date	June 11, 2015 3:26 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Eryemil 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

but I think it's a bit of a stretch to lump it in with those practices, as does most of the World

1) You're underestimating how non-circumcising cultures see the practise. We absolutely do consider it mutilation, generally.

2) You're also underestimating how gynocentric humans are. Female suffering is taken more seriously than male, so it should not be surprising when even cultures that don't practise male circumcision might believe it is not as bad as female. Everything's worse when it happens to women.

Genital mutilation is normally defined along the idea of preventing sexuality [...]

No, that's the feminist talking point. Intent is almost irrelevant to whether something is mutilation or not—a desire to harm is part of the definition but not a necessary one. Either way, parents that circumcise their sons and daughters generally do not intend to harm their children. And certainly the intent behind female genital cutting is just as varied as that behind male, as are the practises and outcomes, in terms of harm inflicted.

I see it as a cultural pledge connecting me to the hundreds of generations prior to me that have done it. I never thought about it until later in life and was glad it had been done, for the health benefits as well as the spiritual symbolism.

Do you really think that these circumcised women, who happily circumcise their daughters don't also have a deeply meaningful religious, cultural and personal attachment to their mutilation?

What makes your perspective any different?

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That's actually not true. The health benefits are bogus (are people in Europe having problems? Nope.) and the effect it has on sexuality is..there are no adequate words for it. It completely ruins it. This is my view after having restored feeling, talked to many other men who have restored foreskin (including those cut as adults) and spent more than a year learning about the anatomy.

I'm not an argumentative person, either. But what I've found is that this is a bad thing and there is currently a widespread problem of ignorance between laymen and professionals alike.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/wiki/

This is an intimidating amount of information but it is comprehensive. The bottom line is if you look and look and look for the truth until you've looked at everything and experimented with restoring feeling on your own body, the truth comes down to it being a very old practice that was invented to take as much sexual pleasure away as possible by people who, with good intentions, sought to be closer to God in this way, and it does so extremely effectively. It also has no health benefits, which is only a lie that cropped up relatively recently after people stopped believing that masturbation was causing all kinds of unrelated health and mental health problems and made God punish nations. Pretty soon that too will be widely accepted because saying it has any reasonable health benefit is completely unfounded. This is what they tell people in places who have it done girls and over there, it's just as normal as doing it to boys here and just as wrong. The myths directly contradict the truth and the true information is out there for anyone who desires to take the journey of education and bridge the gap between all the conflicting information for themselves.

I have a post I made where I explained how within a week or two you can use some tape and shea butter to start to see how badly being exposed has affected the remaining tissue of your penis: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/38stsx/not_being_circumcised_feels_about_100_times/

I want to reiterate I'm not trying to be argumentative. I aim to be on everyone's side; to be everyone's friend. I value and respect everyone as living creatures who are all the same, the same as me, and I don't hold any judgement against anyone whether we hold the same beliefs or not. There are just things that aren't true and things that are and I often will take the opportunity to point people in the right direction so they can educate themselves on the topic if they are ready and want to seek out the truth for themselves.

[–]Eryemil2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's backed by proven health benefits for one, as well as widespread westernized acceptance whereas genital mutilation is not.

By westernised, surely you mean the United States, right? Even Western countries that used to practise it, such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK have since abandoned it.

The US is the outlier among developed nations, in good company with scores of third world shitholes, Israel and South Korea. (where it is also decreasing) Even then, the circumcision rate in the US is barely above 50% currently.

Are you upset at parents for cutting umbilical cords too? That's functional tissue.

If you really were interesting in open discussion you wouldn't write something so utterly idiotic. Thirty seconds of thinking should make it obvious why this analogy is ridiculous in every way.

It's backed by proven health benefits for one [...]

You know what also has proven health benefits? Mastectomy. Breast cancer is a major cause of death for women.

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