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What makes a "good" man?

thetrollking

January 5, 2011

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http://feministing.com/2011/01/05/what-makes-a-good-man/

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Title	What makes a "good" man?
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	3
Comments	10
Date	January 5, 2011 10:24 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ewv35/what_makes_a_good_man/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/what-makes-a-good-man.1044618 https://theredarchive.com/post/1044618

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If you want I will stop linking them here. I am far from a feminist. I was raised by one, a second wave feminist lawyer who used to sit on NOW boards for the local chapters.....but no. If anything I have mommy issues, which I really think is a unfair representation. I don't really have mommy issues because my mom wasn't really around much, more like child hood issues induced through feminist programming and social engineering at the hands of my mom and teachers and the numbers of fucking bitches that medicated my boyhood and teen years away.

But you are right. We would be better off spending more time creating our own patriarchy and evaluating our feminist inspired concepts of maleness all while building male inspired versions to replace them.

One reason I linked the article was because I was hoping that the 75 new readers we got today might read the link and then in the next few days when the 'good' men project publishes their next antimale screed they might put two and two together.

What isn't so surprising to me is how they link being a 'good' man with staying with a wife out of guilt or trauma, when women in the west almost always leave men when the going gets tough....those tough and independent and empowered women almost always get going...but more interesting to me is the comment from one of their resident manginas marc.

Here is the only comment that was posted when I linked this. It's scary and it's straight up proof of feminist appropriation and colonization of various cultural masculinities.

Interesting and good to know. It does bring up the question of how NGOs can work with Global South nations to enhance women’s lives, yet at the same time, do not threaten men by taking away their culture’s definitions of masculinity.

One of the biggest concerns transnational feminists seem to have is how to not colonize cultures, yet I think we sometimes also forget that masculine identities are an essential part of that culture. CARE is an organization that has done wonderfully in furthering the gender equality agenda, while at the same time including men in the process, as not to alienate them. As men are the ones who often buy into practices that hurt women, any movement to help women in these nations and culture also need men’s involvement.

This, for me, is not about asking “what about the men?” but truly identifying all the resources and ways to further our agenda of gender equality.

Perhaps what the feminist movement needs, as a whole, is not to suppress the various layers of “masculinity,”but rather, encourage men – both from Global South and developed cultures, to practice what I envision to be “virtuous masculinity.”

Ideas and discussions on how to go about doing that, and how said masculinity can be defined, are definitely welcomed.

I’ll add a post later this week on the whole issue.

Parts bolded by me. Kloo, your the one who believes(I do too FYI) in a feminist world wide conspiracy and you get mocked for it here and other places on reddit...what do you think about this comment?

Another thing to remember guys is that I posted several stories a few days ago about male and boy rape victims in the congo and how they are often times chased out of villages by their own wives and mothers and other females and are rarely given any medical assistance meaning most end up dying in the jungle.....so, in the name of gender equality and this not being a zero sum game, when are feminists going to publish a 'good' woman article??????

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