Devil's advocate.

wtknight · 2022-10-18T03:07:11+00:00

Removed for being off-topic

robinaloft · 2022-10-18T02:39:19+00:00

Unfortunately, for many of us, we perceive ourselves as being "oppressed." Sometimes this is true, sometimes this is not. The redpill group thinks men are being oppressed by women, and that women have it better. (Sorry to redpillers, but I'm not willing to cite a study here. Find your own!) The bluepill group thinks misogyny is pervasive, and violence is exceedingly perpetuated by men. (This is proven to be true: in the US, 98.9% of sexual assaulters are men, 79.7% of domestic abusers are men, and 89.5% of murderers are men. These are FBI statistics, concrete as can be.) You will see how quickly this logic falls apart if you imagine a slave-owner in the 1800s telling this exact thing to a slave - to "grow up" and accept their "speck of dust" place in the universe. Of course, you cannot win or lose at life, but you can sure as hell advocate for change or start a revolution if you want, and maybe, in your eyes, you can make things that much marginally better for yourself or for someone else.

Internet keyboarding isn't going to do much, but advocating for proper scientific education (and education in general) helps, and even more so if you can learn to recognize traditionally oppressive systems and call them out, or better yet; start a revolution. (For legal reasons, I can't endorse starting a revolution, but it's easier than most people give it credit for, and you are more likely to die in one than most people would give you credit for.)

There may be no winners or losers, but at the end of the day, we all fight to lose slightly less. That is all.

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AshookaNaga · 2022-10-18T01:42:33+00:00

If you’re a nihilist (or skeptic) then there is no objective experience only subjective.

So blanket conversations about men or women, pills or otherwise barely have meaning since statistics are great, but will never be useful in one on one relationships.

Let’s say you think marriage will cause *something”, it doesn’t matter if it’s about virginity or n counts or red hair or whatever, because you will never have enough marriages for any statistic that is less than 99.9999% to have any use.

Correct-Warthog-9061 · 2022-10-18T02:35:08+00:00

Thats generally what people say to cop out arguments " why don't we just let people make their own decisions and worry about ourselves.". I say its a cop out becuase its kind of just neutralizes the point of the conversation. But in practicality, thats what everyone does. What they find the best for themselves. These arguments are kind of pointless becuase no body changing the way they live their lives. But it is what it is.

Title	Devil's advocate.
Author	Inconsequential_Gene
Upvotes	0
Comments	6
Date	October 18, 2022 1:36 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/y6t3gm/devils_advocate/
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