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Twitter Explodes After Ocasio-Cortez Attacks Shapiro In Response To Debate Offer

peeves91

August 10, 2018
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/34321/twitter-explodes-after-ocasio-cortez-attacks-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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Title Twitter Explodes After Ocasio-Cortez Attacks Shapiro In Response To Debate Offer
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peeves91

Upvotes 181
Comments 141
Date August 10, 2018 2:57 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/967n7h/twitter_explodes_after_ocasiocortez_attacks/
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[–]Florist_Gump 58 points59 points60 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The simple answer for her would've been that she'll be more than happy to debate her congressional seat opponent, "if Shapiro wants to debate politicians he should step up and get in the ring". This would have been a straightforward dismissal and a solid burn.

Instead, she pulled misogyny right out of thin air.

The comparison to catcalling was so out of left field that even her supporters have found themselves noticing how weak a response she offered. If this is the best she can do when dealing with an amateur how is she going to perform against a pro?

[–]NSA_ActiveMonitor1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Shapiro isn't an amateur. He often tears people up in debates. She was smart to avoid debating him. But she was stupid in responding and the way in which she did it.

[–]Florist_Gump 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not knocking Shapiro's skills, I'm assuming he doesn't have a team of political operatives (you know, the Simpsons bit - "your muckraker, your character assassin, your mud slinger, your garbologist") backing him up whose only jobs are to dig up any and every weakness of one's debating opponent, as well as being hugely motivated to win that debate when their careers are on the line.

I've no doubt Shapiro would win a debate with Ocasio-Cortez. Thats the point, if she can't win against him she is going to go down in flames against a highly-motivated team prepping a political rival for the debate.

[–]iwannabegreat 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not knocking Shapiro's skills

What skills? His moral compass is inconsistent, his logic is usually flawed and the only reason why he "wins" is because he debates walk-ins and idiots.

All Shapiro does is talk fast and repeat his stock responses. That's it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He got the best of you in a debate huh?

[–]iwannabegreat 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No? If your position is that anyone who thinks that Shapiro is inconsistent and illogical must've lost against him in a debate then you're creating a scenario where he's impervious to having his material criticized. That doesn't make for a fair and balanced discussion.

[–]CuckedSam 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

if Shapiro wants to debate politicians he should step up and get in the ring

no that would still be a pretty dumb fucking reason

[–]Porsche959 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Compared to the "muh misogyny" claim, it is a much better response with much better optics.

[–]Nuttin_Up 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I would bet a dollar that she has never, ever been cat-called during her entire 28 years on this planet.

[–]peeves91[S] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd bet a lot more than that

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean horse-called?

[–]Luck_v3 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s prett

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You would lose that dollar. Women live in objectification like fish live in water.

[–]KapnKaveman 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a slap in the face for the cause of women who are actually being harassed.

[–]MorrisseyBBK 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, this is autistic

[–]tmoneSpends too much time with ass cheeks spread apart 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A man challenging a woman to a debate is sexist.

Welcome to the Democratic Party of 2018.

[–]pbar 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the modern left. They don't think they should have to explain or justify their beliefs. They think their beliefs are the default state.

I would love to hear her explain to Ben Shapiro why socialism is good and how some stuff should be free and other stuff should come out of taxes and other stuff the government should pay for.

[–]peeves91[S] 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why trump 2020 is becoming more and more likely imo.

[–]Vladimir_Kuznetzov 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Progressivism is a religion akin to Islam.

[–]SC2samspends too much time spreading u/tmone 's ass cheeks apart 56 points57 points58 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Annnnnd now she's claiming he was

harassing her with repeated requests for debate

amazing. What a gigantic pile of shit she is.

[–]peeves91[S] 25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She's only proving she is nervous he'll expose her for what she is: an idiot.

And that's assuming you don't think she's already done that

[–]Ayrab4Trump 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She hasn’t even won anything yet. She hasn’t even gotten past the primary stage. The actual election ain’t until November. Holy shit.

[–]peeves91[S] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She won the primaries that took place in late June. See district 14.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/26/us/elections/results-new-york-primary-elections.html

[–]Ayrab4Trump 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is NOT the actual election yet. That’s just inner-DNC prep. The election is the election. That is November mid-terms.

She is NOT in power yet and has no power at all over her district.

It’s amazing the Dems are promoting her so damn much. I don’t think they realized a BPD bug-eyed bartender is actually NOT the best candidate for the community at large.

I’m sure they’re hoping on the far left appeal but still ... it might make trump candidates seem less crazy.

[–]peeves91[S] 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Um, yeah? I know it's not the actual election. I simply replied with that because in your parent comment you said:

she hasn't even got past the primary stage yet

Which I proved wrong. Not sure why you're saying all this other stuff.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article references that he's trying to debate a liberal with more power and influence than him...

In what world is this girl whose been known for 6 months and hasn't won anything but a primary bigger and more influential than Ben Shapiro? Ben Shapiro who has had a media presence for going on ten years and is widely known on both sides of politics.

I was first made aware of her existence weeks ago via meme.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why people don't take feminism seriously anymore, and they shouldn't. Women just want to stand there and talk about how amazing they are and how they run the world and can do anything, until it comes down to actually doing stuff. Then they have every excuse in the world, and it's everybody's fault but their own... Fucking pathetic.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

I truly believe this was the death blow to her campaign. She went too for into identity politics with that one. All the moderate center-left democrats will leave her for that one.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a left wing kook running in a left wing district against a Republican. She can dress up like a Chinese Army Major and she's going to win.

[–]KapnKaveman 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crowley will still be on the ballot, the Dems should push for him.

But hey this is great for the GOP - if she wins she's a gift that will keep on giving.

[–]peeves91[S] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea if it is, but I dearly hope so.

Even if it isn't, this could still be beneficial for the democratic party. Many prominent DNC members have denounced her.

[–]IIHotelYorba 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Signs of sanity returning to the Democrats?

[–]peeves91[S] 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woah woah woah, let's not get carried away or anything...

[–]FreeThinkingMan -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (20 children) | Copy Link

Your are just confirmation biasing your right wing ignorance as was that right wing rag OP posted and frequents. The point was that Ben Shaprio has/had bad intentions and had zero intentions of an intellectually honest debate about ideas. He only wanted to have her on to make a fool out of her by any means.

Have you not been paying attention to hit job right wing propaganda is doing on her? I was listening to conservative talk radio the other day and they were saying that she is going to get rid of women's right to choose because she is a "communist".

If only right wing sheep knew how to follow a logical argument they would be able to see how stupid Ben Shapiro and other right wing youtube personalities actually are instead of having no other option but to confirmation bias right wing conspiracy theories through them.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol. did not read after the first two sentences.

[–]WhiskeyBreathYawn 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As opposed to the left wing sheep with their heads so far up her ass I'm not sure where she ends and they begin?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, to be fair, both parties have members that will only vote for their party, no matter how bad. The left just has a much, much bigger one than the right.

[–]WhiskeyBreathYawn 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fair. My grandma would vote for a republican if he started killing babies and blew up the moon.

[–]greyspot00 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, he'd make a complete fool out of her by making her talk about her ideas and discussing issues.

[–]FreeThinkingMan -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Ben Shapiro is an idiot, you people just don't know what a logical argument is, so you fall for his dumbshit. There is a reason why he is a youtube personality and not an actual writer. It is easier to spot bad logic with the written word than it is when you have a bunch of sassy inflection and tone applied to what is being said through spoken word. Whenever you read what conservative propagandists are trying to communicate it is such obvious bullshit.

[–]TasteTheSnozzberries 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

You do realize he has several published books, had a newspaper column at 17, et cetera?

[–]FreeThinkingMan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

He is a charlatan and dumbass and this is easily verifiable by looking at his arguments for positions. You just have to know what a logical argument is and how to follow one and the intellectual honesty to be logical to see it. People who fall for the bullshit right wing propagandists like Ben Shapiro spew are always incapable of those two things(knowing what a logical argument is and having intellectual honesty). I truly don't expect a logical thought to come out of your mind if you can't see through Shapiro's obvious bullshit and demigogury.

[–]TasteTheSnozzberries 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Well if it's so easy to verify why don't you point out an example for us? Plus that doesn't have much to do with my claim that he is actually a writer.

[–]FreeThinkingMan -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You just have to know what a logical argument is and how to follow one and the intellectual honesty to be logical to see it.

I know trying to reason with people who don't know what a logical argument looks like is a waste of time, akin to talking to a wall. Shapiro is an idiot and so is anyone who thinks he is a credible source of information. He is Rush Limbaugh for oblivious uneducated millennials.

[–]Tiy991 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know trying to reason with people who don't know what a logical argument looks like is a waste of time, akin to talking to a wall.

"I don't actually have an example"

FTFY

[–]FreeThinkingMan -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you want an example for? You know it wont change your perspective.

[–]TasteTheSnozzberries 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'd say I'm decent at doing so and Ben Shapiro does a good job of making one while acknowledging where he's coming from and supplying facts to back up any assumptions made.

[–]FreeThinkingMan -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No he doesn't and no you don't. He is a confidence man who uses tone and bad arguments to communicate false hoods and right wing conspiracy theories. His claims are more full of projecting and hypocrisy then logic and truth. This is obvious to anyone who knows what a logical argument is and has the intellectual honesty to reflect on what is being told to you, as opposed to confirmation biasing whatever right wing narrative you want. You people are the worst with the confirmation bias. I will supply you with a video and some examples of what I am talking about shortly even though I know you will ignore what is logically argued to you with a snarky shit post and mental gymnastics.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You lost a debate to Shapiro, didn't you?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, only idiots deal with facts.....FreeStinkingMan

[–]TouchingButtz 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Say it with me

"Trump is our President"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where is the slander though?

She's not wrong. He does have bad intent. He's been slamming her on Youtube for some time now.

She doesn't owe him anything and all this is just baiting her because he's afraid of her.

Afraid because she's attractive and popular and won and election easily.

I'm not on her side, but what he's doing is grade school bullying someone who doesn't want to fight him because they have no reason to and nothing to gain.

No PP Denied. She won and Shapiro can't spin it any other way except to his followers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She said he was sexually harassing her. He wasn't. She got karma and now everyone hates her. PPD.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You must of read something I didn't see.

Could you please quote it for us?

Saying someone is "like a catcaller" is not accusing them of sexual harassment. It's an analogy that points to similarities in behaviors and intentions if not necessarily methods and results.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God no wonder this sub has gone to shit.

Thr whole point of this isnt the fact she does want to debate him. Its the fact she instantly tried to turn this in a situation where she is a victim of sexism.

She does not wanna debate fine, say no and move on or ignore. That is perfectly reasonable and logical. But to somehow equate a request for a debate to sexist catcalling just shows she is actively trying to use this event for vicitim points. That is a problem. It shows she is just posturing and using emotion driven identity politics because of a lack of substance in her campaign

[–]AngelComa 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TIL people take Ben Shapiro seriously. This dude wrote a book that porn is bad.

[–]Vladimir_Kuznetzov 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How well do you understand the structure of society, human sexuality, the gradual replacement of monogamous relationships with hook-up culture, the decline of marriage, and the ongoing objectification of women (both by men AND women)? How much reading on those subjects have you done? How are you in any way more qualified than Shapiro to give your opinion? Like all sociological issues, it's not 100% provable, but porn is a relatively new issue that is undoubtedly having massive effects on society, particularly young men. Brushing it off like it's baseless fearmongering is intellectually dishonest.

[–]McgurktheJerk 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get this man an extinguisher!

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

🅱️ased Sha🅱️iro ✡️✡️✡️

[–]Zyklon_Bae 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Shapiro would destroy her anus in a real debate, and she knows it.

[–]NaughtyFred 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Destroy? More like she brings a knife to an orbital laser platform fight.

[–]PipapoFifafo 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Remember cenk vs shapiro? Tyt fans actually were convinced cenk won o.0

[–]jRRS7 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you google it?

[–]peeves91[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ding ding ding

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another Jessica Price.

[–]Razor_Whale 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Put this in r/twoxchromosomes

[–]StupidDebate 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are now banned from r/twoxchromosomes

[–]Razor_Whale -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can i suck the taste out of your hot creamy spunk monkey fucker shit hole faggot breath

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the problem in the states at the moment is perfectly summed up in the comments section of this post.

At first all is well with people, rightfully, calling her out for using identity politics instead of simply saying "hey im here to debate politicians and that's it" to avoid being outwitted by a professional in the practice.

But so quickly it turns to extrapolating her wrongdoing and applying it to "the left", "the dnc" etc

Can we stop with party affilitations and accept that politics is in dissorray on both sides of the aisle and that party politics makes it impossible for those who do wrong to be held accountable?

No more "leftist snowflakes" and instead hold this woman solely responsible for her bullshit and the same for each and every person who diminishes the position they hold and the people they represent.

There isnt a left, right, democratic or republican anymore. There is only those who do the wrong thing and those doing it right. End of. Support who does it right regardless of their background or creed and we'll finally see the US step back up to the plate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cortez is crazy, the end.

[–]JawAndDough 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure this sub will go just as crazy over Ted Cruz turning down Cenk Uygur for a debate for 10k. Ted is sliding in the polls, he needs the coverage. It would help him to own the libs!! But alas, he's the real pussy and won't do it, sadly.

[–]peeves91[S] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You're damn right I'd be pissed at him if he didn't do that debate.

But that's a nonsensical situation, he'd take the debate for free just to kick cenk's ass. He debated Bernie multiple times and it was a trainwreck for Sanders each time.

[–]JawAndDough 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Well, you're in luck! https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1028031747798138881 Ted Cruz is running away like a little bitch :D you get your answer!

[–]peeves91[S] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

He's being a smartass. He's telling cenk to "stop catcalling him".

If he doesn't agree to the debate, I'm very disappointed in him. But something is telling me this isn't a sincere offer from cenk, and if it is, I think Ted will accept. Come back to me in a weeks time with the developments.

[–]JawAndDough 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1028027346077380608

.... he literally says he is not joking.

he even talked about it on his show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUgrS6UJPyA&t=353

.....

[–]peeves91[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I still dont believe the sincerity of it. But let's assume he is sincere. And like I said. Come back to me in a week and if ted Cruz still hasmt accepted, I will be quite angry with him.

Now that I've conceded your point, denounced his actions, denounce ocasio's for not accepting the debate. Or, her remarks about shapiro "catcalling" her.

[–]JawAndDough 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

? why would i denounce a comparison that is apt? Shapiro literally wrote a book on underhanded tactics to debate the left that he thinks don't deserve honest debate. She doesn't have to accept his debate or even respond to him. Ted Cruz doesn't have to debate Cenk if he doesn't want to. I defend everyones action here except Shapiro because he's a slimy leach that doesn't debate in good faith.

[–]peeves91[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for having the consistency for saying that neither of them have to debate. A lot of people would have a double standard about that and I commend you for not (completely sincere, not /s)

They weren't underhanded tactics, it was just dissecting how the left debates and the poor techniques they tend to use, but think whatever you want.

I guess what really rubs me the wrong way here is how she responded by likening it to catcalling. It's a free country and she doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want.

[–]greyspot00 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Way to insult someone for something they may hypothetically not do.

[–]rockynputz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But muh whataboutism!!!

[–]MrComicBook -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Twitter "explodes".

[+]PagingDrFagget -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh, Ben Shapiro is a weenie anyway.

*lol

[+]dondizzle -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Why would any candidate debate a pundit? This isn't PPD. She'll win her race.

[–]peeves91[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why wouldn't she debate someone as smart as shapiro? Because she's afraid knows she'll lose and how embarrassing it'll be for her.

[–]dondizzle -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's irrelevant. Candidates debate candidates, not pundits. It would be like Bill Maher or Dave Rubin debating a libertarian candidate, I would expect them to also decline.

[–]peeves91[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

candidates shouldn't debate an expert

I don't even know what to say with this. Also, he offered her $10,000 to debate.

The only reason is she knows she'll lose. Shapiro will run circles around her.

[+]dondizzle -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say experts. I said candidates should debate candidates. I understand you like Shapiro, I watch his videos too... but why would a candidate debate a pundit?

Ben isn't running, even if he won a debate... Why would that hold any relevance to this race?

[–]peeves91[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pundit (the word you used):

a learned person, expert, or authority.

And why wouldn't she? She'd get $10,000 regardless, and it'd be publicity. Then again, being a child and saying what he's doing is catcalling her is getting her publicity too...

Stop trying to cover for the fact she doesn't want to go against him because she knows she'll get obliterated by Shapiro

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're the one that sounds like a "child", hes given you valid responses and all you've done is deflect and talk about money and cowardice.

You're a great example of why Ben Shapiro isnt liked as much as he should be. He says one thing and without request, you vicious little dogs go yapping away without being able to answer for yourself.

"I dont know what to say to that"...how about before you demand someone else debates, you learn to answer to the debates others bring to you? Or are you too worried that you'll "get obliterated"?

[+]Zolome1977 -23 points-22 points-21 points 7 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

Neckbeards. She doesn’t have to do it, he’s nobody, just like all you mofos.

[–]peeves91[S] 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't have to debate him. But she should want to to get more coverage for herself (and a $10,000 donation). Unless she's scared he's gonna expose her for being an idiot?

The daily wire podcast is the fastest growing conservative podcast, the daily wire has 20-30 million page views per month, and he himself has 1.5 million followers on Twitter.

But yeah, he's totally a nobody.

[+]Zolome1977 -13 points-12 points-11 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Doing a debate on a forum that is not visited by the people who voted for her is going to accomplish what? The population is polarized to such a degree that it won’t do her any good. Those that want to vote for her will, those that don’t won’t. If there are any who are going to cross party lines, they won’t be doing it by listening to that show. She gains nothing by being on.

[–]Thenameangussucks 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The whole point is to get people that wouldn’t normally vote for you, to vote for you.

[–]Zolome1977 -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you were another kind of voter. But alas you follow a subscribe to someone who already is hostile to her and her ideas. So much to your chagrin, that she doesn’t value your opinion pisses you off.

[–]Thenameangussucks 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s what debates are for. Exchanging ideas and information. If your ideas are not grounded on logic and your information false, then you’ll bare the consequences.

[–]peeves91[S] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She could spread the word about her debate and tweet it out to her followers...

[–]Zyklon_Bae 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He would DESTROY her in a debate, which is why she's crying and playing the victim card (HE HARRASSED ME!!).

[–]jordanbadland 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If she beats him she can shut down a lot of her critics at once.

But she's a weak coward, just like you, mr faggot

[–]Zolome1977 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There no beating ignorance and stupidity. So she did the right thing and did not go on.

[–]tmoneSpends too much time with ass cheeks spread apart 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dude, neckbeard, whatever, why are you acting as if she didnt just compare his request for a debate to cat calling and harassment? thats the whole point. idgaf that she wont debate, its about how she said no.

[–]jordanbadland 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A debate is not to change the other person's mind, it's to change the mind of people who witness it. You don't have to beat Ben Shapiro's "ignorance" and "stupidity", you have to beat his *arguments* lol

Holy shit I bet your parents feel fucking sick at your existence, like, did you come out the ass end of your mom? Your mom must be pro-life not to try to abort you after the doctor told her her son would be born a handicapped downie

[–]Zolome1977 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tadaa a homophobic ableist is exposed. And to think you tried to so hard to convince yourself you could be human. Valiant effort, but a homophobic piece of shit will always be one.

[–]jordanbadland 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am sorry why do you think it's bad to be a handicapped person? Just because I said you are one doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Are you negatively biased against down syndrome folks?
W O W
Yikes @ your ableism

[–]Lordrummxx1 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

It’s the fact that she’d get destroyed in a debate. Otherwise why not take the opportunity to shed some light on yourself?

[–]Zolome1977 -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Point being is you think she’s get destroyed, you think her points are laughable, you disagree with her wholeheartedly. There is no reason to show up to a talk that’s not going to accomplish anything. You and other people like you made up your minds about her a long time ago. She gains nothing by talking to your kind. It’s like her talking to monkeys and expecting them not to fling poop. You just are going to and have a stupid closed mind.

[–]peeves91[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Nice ad hominems. Well done. Gonna leave these links for you:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/aug/01/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-defense-budget/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-misrepresents-ices-detent/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/surprise-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-bad-at-history-too

[–]Zolome1977 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

https://www.shitsitesconservativesputup.com

[–]peeves91[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the best you can do? Really? Politifact is one of the least biased sources put there, but you just can't accept what they say. Source

I really do feel sorry for you.

[–]jordanbadland 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You are a dumb retard who is anti-science, anti-debate, and probably close to being a literal cuckold. There's literal evidence for how wrong she is on so many counts and the best you can do is "troll". Cortez is some random bitch whom the Democrats are helping because as a minority she might get them votes. And you suck up to her as if she's an actually good politician.
Weak white knight faggot

[–]Zolome1977 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Conservative snowflake got dem feathers ruffled. Awh I still don’t give a damn!

[–]jordanbadland 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That line of argumentation worked for conservatives and alt-right but it won't work for your side, you faggot

You're defending someone who is offended at cat calls and calls a request for debate with 10k on the table "akin to a cat call"

Like. Like.. Like dude... this is as offended as it gets. You really can't pull any "aww r u triggered card". Your faggot side is the epitome of triggered butthurt lmao

[–]Zolome1977 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You cosnservatards are too easy. Some truth mixed in with your medicine and viola. Instant homophobic, bigoted, racist, misogynist exposed. Good luck next time pretending to be level headed.

[–]jordanbadland 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

homophobic, bigoted, racist, misogynist exposed.

I AM DEAD LMAO HAHAHAHAHHA

[–]Zyklon_Bae 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'White people are evil'

'Gimme free shit'

'Women are oppressed'

--that is all this nobody chiclet has to offer. Shapiro would mop the floor with her functionally illiterate ass.

[–]Lordrummxx1 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean... have you heard her talk? Yea she’d get destroyed.

[–]Nuttin_Up 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're correct. She doesn't have to debate him. She could have easily said 'No thanks' and left it at that. But she had to delve into identity politics and screech 'sexist'. Her inane comment makes her looks weak and vulernable. She is not person of intellect and she is afraid of being exposed.

[+]therodt -13 points-12 points-11 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I dont know what planet you guys are on. She owned him. and it wasnt a pussy pass thing to begin with. He was begging negging to get a debate and he aint her district or anyone but some you tube right larping dude and she let him know that

[–]peeves91[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

he was begging

I've never seen someone beg by offering to donate $10,000 to the other persons campaign.

Here's a good response to her "sexual harassment" claims:

When you lack the intellectual integrity to hold an honest conversation with a political adversary, so you attack his character and honor in an attempt to posture yourself as the victim. Such a response trivializes actual victims of sexual harrassment. Shame on you.

And shapiro responded to her saying:

Discussion and debate are not “bad intentions.” Slandering someone as a sexist catcaller without reason or evidence does demonstrate cowardice and bad intent, however.

Both of these responses are excellent criticism of her childish response.

[–]therodt -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why is everyone full of shit about this. There is nothing to debate. they dont agree on anything and frankly she is in a campaign. ben isnt. he does a podcast and thats that. she said no. Move on.

[–]PipapoFifafo 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hes a political heavy weight and people hope for him to be a future presidential candidate because of his convictions. Hes not a nobody. Everybody knows who shapiro is on the conservative side. And on the democrats side he is at least well known.

If cortez thought she had a chance at convincing the audience of her opinions, it would have been a huge leap forward for her.

[–]therodt 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Political heavyweight? what planet am I living on. President? Holy crap. i want your kool aid bruh. Also she has won her primary. She just needs to focus on her district her election. She is already a bit overexposed.

[–]PipapoFifafo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, yes. He constantly says he doesn't want to be one though. Mainly because he doesn't have the right connections.

[–]peeves91[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She didn't just "say no", she likened what he proposed as catcalling her. That's a big problem.

[–]jaspnlv 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I bet you think cenk "owned" him too

[–]therodt 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

not what I said.

[–]jaspnlv 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is what l bet

[+]KatzDeli1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

She’s what Trump would be if he was a female democrat.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Still can't get over that loss from November and the fact that he is Making America Great Again, huh? Trump and this dolt, are complete opposites. Anyone with half a brain in their head would know this. Not surprised seeing this comment on reddit tho. Have a nice day.

[–]ItsTrueImmaFaggot -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Muh Trump is making Muh Merica great again libtards!

-recently laid off factory worker

[+]xluryan -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Accurate.

[+]contemplateVoided -15 points-14 points-13 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Shapiro is a dishonest debater. Op is obviously a disillusioned asshole.

[–]peeves91[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Nice name calling right out the gate:)

[–]Hardcover 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It worked for the current top comment :/

[+]contemplateVoided -10 points-9 points-8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If the shoe fits...

[–]peeves91[S] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Wow. I really feel sorry for you. The best you can do when you see someone acting childish (referring to ocasio) is name call OP.

Not to mention you have no basis for calling me an asshole.

[+]contemplateVoided -11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I have a basis. Anyone who thinks Shapiro is any kind of intellectual is an asshole. No further evidence is required. You clearly have ignored everything about the way this man debates if you think he’s anything more than a charlottan.

Anyways, enjoy your micropenis circle-jerk.

[–]peeves91[S] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone who thinks Shapiro is any kind of intellectual is an asshole

After this, I felt like I needed to check your post history. Found /r/RussiaLago, /r/politics, /r/esist, /r/GunsAreCool, and now things are falling into place with you. These are the breeding grounds for mindsets of name calling and acting like a general child.

I encourage you to get out of your echo chamber.

[–]ihadtotypesomething 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Found the 12 year old

[–]peeves91[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*2

[–]Herdez96 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck off

[–]Thenameangussucks 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why? I’m actually interested in any evidence?

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