Questions about escalation

2020-12-26T17:26:50+00:00

the blue pill strategy for getting women is to be a friend first and then try to be a boyfriend. This appeals to beta males because they know that they don't have enough raw sex appeal to attract a woman's interest as a sexual partner and so they become friends with her first in the hopes that they'll win her over at the right moment at some point in the future. It's a terrible idea to pursue this strategy because it's ineffective, wastes a lot of time, and destroys sexual attraction even if it's successful.Pursuing a woman must be done while maintaining sexual tension. If the relationship starts to get platonic, immediately pull back.

To avoid her being the prize, pursue a woman by demonstrating your strengths to attract her interest, but that should be done in a way that other women are seeing those same strengths too. You aren't committing to one woman until she's earned it.

Jude2425 · 2020-12-26T08:21:27+00:00

She doesn't have to be the prize, but if you are struggling with lust then you don't have the gift of singleness and should get married. You should pursue marriage. This doesn't mean one-itis, it means get a wife. Generally speaking RP is good stuff when it reflects natural law, but it's not blanketly biblical and should be adjusted to reflect the biblical worldview.

1 Cor 7 says you are going to want to have sex. The only lawful way to do that is to be married. To keep you from unlawful outlets, you should get married. The first command God gave his creation was to be fruitful and multiply. This has not left, nor has it been abrogated as simply spiritual multiplication through evangelism.

God is Sovereign. Go pursue some women. Don't get one-itis. Don't get desperate. Getting a wife and pursuing the kingdom go hand in hand for most men. Go have 10 kids that love God, start businesses, and refuse to kneel to the tyrants of their day. That's kingdom work right there.

MWDJR702 · 2020-12-26T13:47:44+00:00

GOD said a few things. . .

Because of lust it is good for every man to have his own wife and every wife to have her own husband.

When a man has found a wife he has found a good thing.

Both the man and the woman were naked and they were not ashamed.

They are both no more 2 but now 1 flesh.

Be fruitful and multiply.

He made us with a healthy desire to seek these things for it is His desire to see us flourish to have dominion over the earth and subdue it.

It is also law when it comes from His mouth which is also a command that you are to obey and when He says these things it is also a blessing for you to fulfill it in your life.

You are not wrong to want to find a wife so go and do it but do not do it as nonbelievers do.

Do not treat your girlfriend as your wife.

Sex is a blessing that God bestowed to unify a husband and wife not for a horny lustful boy and girl.

You got this!

GOD bless you.

Zeuszoos · 2020-12-28T02:18:45+00:00

Hello (Impersonator_3?)

Sorry for the length! Hope you read it!

Me> Pastor, happily married almost 20 years.

Just so you know a bit about me and where I'm coming from.

You'll probably get a lot of opinions of RP, but I'll just make this plain and simple:

1) Think of the Red Pill like Christianity. Lots of denominations, or sects, but (almost) all hold the same core beliefs. You'll get comments saying RP (Red Pill) isn't Biblical. I disagree and say it is and that it's what churches teach about relationships that is not Biblical, but is instead the Feminist propaganda society has been indoctrinated into.

The Red Pill is simply about;

A) Understanding how to be a Biblically appropriate Alpha Male (I of course added "Biblically" for our purpose here).

The Bible says very little about how to conduct oneself as a husband or a wife. It only gives the very basics. The husband leads, the wife follows. Don't deny each other sex. Love and honor each other. But due to feminist indoctrination, that last part never looks like it should.

You might think things like "chivalry" and "courtly love" are what men should do. But research them. They're wholly based on total submission of the man to the woman.

Even the term "alpha male" has been twisted by women to mean a real jerk who mistreats women. But in truth it's not.

My point is, that while yes of course we are to love our wives, when you ask yourself "What does that mean?", don't get trapped into applyjng our totally feminist society version of it. For example, if your version of "love" doesn't produce the "reverence" (fearful respect) that your wife's supposed to have for you as the Bible commands her to, then you're doing it wrong. :-)

Example: Your father loves you. But you totally avoided angering him growing up, right? Because he made sure you reverenced him, so he'd be able to guide you. Part of his love for you.

I'll sum it up this way; Be kind to her, yes. But also make sure that she knows to never mistake kindness for weakness. And if she's one of those who needs to "learn" this, then you cannot back down. No consequences, no reverence.

I.e., you must set the appropriate frame for each stage of the relationship from the second you meet a girl you're interested in and then always, for the rest of your life, you absolutely must hold frame, because the second you let your guard down, she absolutely will take advantage of that! But don't worry, it becomes natural over time. :-)

Men tend to think that once they're serious with a girl, that they can let their guard down. After all, she said; "Don't worry, I'd never hurt you." But even Christian women are still women and they want a man that will forever hold frame. But men seem to forget that once they change from doing that and creating that reverence from her, then they're no longer a man worthy of following. They're no longer who she fell in love with and who she trusted to lead and protect her for life. Women actually want to follow a man. But not a beta that they can rule over, who thinks now that they've got her, it's okay to be one.

But of course, they let their guard down, stopped holding frame and right after, noticed that things weren't quite the same and had started subtly changing and not for the better. Then came her outbursts. And instead of responding RP, he tries to comfort her and gives in to something to appease her, or a gift just to get her happy again.

Every man has experienced this. They think they're doing the right thing, because that's what women told them. So they think if they're just nice enough and show her enough love and attention, you know, like the other women he sought advice from told him to do, then she'd "come around". But the more affection he shows her for her "crying" over her "problems" with him now, the worse she seems to get, right? Until the screaming, or being rude, or whatever.

But what was really happening? Well, did he notice how either the problems seemed to him to be tiny ("You didn't remember the anniversary of the first time we hugged on a Friday!"), or non-existant, because she never would tell you what they were, because, "You should just know!"?

Well, that's because there wasn't actually any problem(s). Except for him. He didn't hold frame when she first acted out, which she did on purpose to test him and see if he would still act like a man, or a wimp. Women do this all the time. Remember, she's deciding if he's really a man she can trust to always be a man, or to be a mouse. And since it's part of their nature to do so and because divorce and taking his money and the kids is so easy today (since the 70's), she's testing him to see if she should stay with him, or monkey branch off to another man.

So when he didn't at first act like a man, she pushed the tests even further, acting out more and more, fake crying with her manufactured female tears and the nicer he got, the worse she got, ultimately hoping to get him to act like a man, which she can't tell him to do, because if she has to tell him then it's not really him doing it, but rather him pretending to in order to please her, once again, being the "nice guy" and thus making it even worse!

The point is, her nature is just that; nature. So no, it'll never go away! She will test you!

As for the women who gave the bad advice, they always will. I have a simple rule: "If a man wants to know what to do about a woman, he should ask a woman. Then do the opposite of whatever she says."

B) Understanding the true nature of women. It isn't anywhere near what you've been taught! Just look through Scriptures. :-)

C) Understanding how to handle a woman in a relationship, to result in a lifetime marriage commitment from both of you, in which you always remain that same man who leads.

Note: The reason that many will say that RP isn't totally Biblical, is because they're conflating RP with PUA. In cass you're unaware…..

PUA = (P)ick(U)p (A)rtist

RP (Red Pill) isn't about being a pickup artist. It's about the things I listed above and you should think of PUA as a "sect" of RP, where guys use the knowledge of RP and apply it in a way that allows them to be a PUA. And if you sit outside that and put their poor morals aside for a moment, then you can see that as wrong as PUA is, it's a great testimony for the truth of RP, because they wrap their approaches and responses to women around RP and it works great for them! So please pardon how I put this, but to drive the point home, if RP wasn't true, then PUA couldn't work and they'd still be BP (Blue Pill) wimps who end up getting rejected and going home each night to their pillows! :-)

The core of RP is true and valid and entirely Biblical, since in wherever they do touch on the same thing, they also agree. :-)

2) Her being the Prize: She is not a "the prize". I may be wrong, but it sounds like you're pedastalizing women. The more you pedastalize a woman, the worse you'll be treated!

Men need to stop thinking of women as these pure, innocent, angelic beings, who would never hurt the man and so whatever bad thing happens must somehow be his fault.

No woman deserves to be put on a pedastal! What has she done to earn that type of treatment?

Men will often talk about how they will "treat her like a queen", without ever once asking the question; "Does she treat me like a king?"

And in a King/Queen relationship, the Queen may have a lot of things she wants, but that's because the King already has it to give without putting a dent in his pocket and he doesn't go get another job in order to give her stuff.

Further, while she may be treated like a queen, she still must treat him like a king and obey him. Not doing so and even having a smart mouth brings a punishment, possibly death.

So the next time a girl tells you, "You need to treat me like a queen!"… hold up your 45 and ask little miss smart mouth… "You sure you wanna go that route?" Just kidding! :-)

3) Escalating> To escalate, keep it simple. Speak to her in a way that's sort of subtle, but doesn't hide your intent. Playing the nice guy, trying to be her friend will just get you friendzoned and once a woman has you in that category, you'll never get out! This is not a Hollywood movie! Don't be pushy, but be a little flirty.

Mostly though, hang back, watch what she does and let her come to you as far as physical contact. What I mean is, does she smile a lot with you? Does she seek to be near you? Does she play with her hair when she's talking to you? Most importantly, does she touch you? Like does she touch your arm when you make her laugh?

Things like that are great indicators that she wants something romantic with you. Don't rush it, don't push it, but if the moment seems right, ask her out. But have a plan! Don't ask her what she likes/wants to do. It's your job to plan the date, not hers and you'll just look weakminded! Same with which night. You tell her which night and what time. If there's a problem with it, she'll let you know. But do not then ask her when is good for her. That makes it seem like you have no life, since your nights are wide open, therefore in her mind you've just told her you're a loser! Getting the idea? :-)

Lastly, stay focused on your mission in life. And your wife is supposed to support her husband in that. If you make her your focus, then you fail and she loses respect for you. After all, what kind of a man would divert from his mission, to make a woman who's supposed to be following and supporting him, his mission? A weak one!

El0vution · 2020-12-26T14:45:26+00:00

The reason the RP suggests not escalating a friendship into a romantic relationship is because the woman has already formed a non-sexual opinion about you and any actions you take to change that will be out of sequence with your previous behavior and she will instinctively recoil from you both romantically and in friendship. She will see the contradiction in your past and present behavior and assume you were too weak to show her sexual behavior in the past and thereby too weak to be the man she wants. It’s not impossible to shift the relationship, but the odds are greatly stacked against you .

Praexology · 2020-12-26T13:39:30+00:00

Creating desire is as simple as this:

1) Negging

2) Decision Making

3a) Being Attractive

3b) Not being Unattractive

4) Breaking the Touch barrier and escalating Kino

5) Handling Fitness Tests

Bonus points: if your text game is A+

Bonus points: if you are a valuable man.

Title	Questions about escalation
Author	Imperator_3
Upvotes	19
Comments	20
Date	December 26, 2020 8:10 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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