A discussion with TRP

vorverk · 2017-05-10T14:35:31+00:00

If you would be here long enough, you'd know that there is a gauss curve and of course there are smart and hard-working girls, but they are minority. There is a degree of generalization in everything we talk about, if you don't, there is nothing to talk about (but academic math).
They can far more easily exploit the system and they do. Through divorces, employ quotas and every pussy pass method they can, because women are wonderful

AWALT: again, it's a generalisation and it talks about innate female behaviour, because of here biology, not learned stuff. There are girls that were raised good and learned right values, but their instincts are still there. They might never "use" them. But they are there. Like you have instincts to want to fuck a hot chick. Of course they are animals. So are we. Homo sapiens is in a part of animal kingdom. Are you denying that? We are walking talking monkeys, living in cities, pretending to be something more. Our instincts are driving us more than you and I would like to admit.

Redteen224 · 2017-05-10T14:38:06+00:00

Give it 6 months of implementing some of the theory in your life, and if you still feel the same, come right back and tell us. You wouldn't believe how much your views might change if you apply and experience what you're reading on this sub.

ttkkk · 2017-05-10T14:39:33+00:00

You don't understand what AWALT means

Pump and dump feels bad?, so don't do it. Trying to convince others that is bad... really? Here? , i think you may go to -> TBP

Keep reading/lurking.

RedPillStoryTime · 2017-05-10T14:46:39+00:00

I think that we men should all strive to become the best version of ourselves.

I take it you read my post from yesterday, good on you. I would have assumed by reading it, most of your question, concerns and comments regarding our community would have been answered.

TRP is a community about self-improvement, helping reformed Beta males develop an alpha mindset and teach our brothers to value themselves more on their personal successes, rather than their ability to have a HB9 on their arm. If you just want to learn how to pick up chicks, head on over to seduction or PUA subreddits.

I think being a real man means having discipline, thus pump and dump shouldn't be a value endorsed by TRP.

Would disagree with you completely on the pump and dump premise and would heavily advise you to read some of the side bar material focusing specifically on relationship dynamics. The pump and dump mentality is prevalent here is because most of our community are single males, recovering from shitty break ups/divorces. They're re-building themselves and relationships are not on the radar. Pump and Dump is utilized here with plates because they are accessories to your lifestyle. Take tinderella's ass off the pedestal here bud because once she's gone, the RedPill will give you the tools to keep living your life.

If you want advice on how to conduct yourself while in a relationship my friend, head on over the the Married Red Pill, or have a circle jerk in the relationship sub.

Bottom line here is that if you're seeking guidance about becoming a better version of yourself, take a look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself what drew you to this sub? Do you want to improve yourself and your outlook on life? Or do you want to keep tugging your horn to that HB10 at the gym, while being a miserable prick?

If you swallow the Red Pill, you accept responsibility for yourself and your decisions. You lift weights because you want to. You earn your living because its the lifestyle you want to live. You hangout with your buddies because they positively contribute to your life. You have your respective hobbies because they make you happy.

WhorehouseVet · 2017-05-10T14:49:43+00:00

If you see a lion or a tiger in the wild, would you see them as carnivorous predators, or the off chance that they were raised by humans to not see humans as another meal?

Is bet your ass you'd pick option #1. The same is with women, there might be a miniscule number of hard working, non fucked up, non slutty women that might be marriage material, but why look at the world with your rose colored glasses?

You could, but then you're just retarded, like that idiotic Chinese lady who decided to get out of her car in the middle of a tiger safari last year.

fstrizzy · 2017-05-10T14:47:19+00:00

It does go a BIT overboard here. But for the most part I do agree with almost everything said about women here. I have seen it way too often and it becomes more apparent the older I get. It's never been any different. Women only want the popular, good looking guy. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. Fortunately you can become these things if you work for it. Some will have an easier path to becoming desirable but that doesn't mean that it's unattainable for people starting off lower in the ranks.

jarjarbrooks · 2017-05-10T14:56:09+00:00

It's as simple as saying "All tigers make poor housepets"

Just because you know a guy who has a pet tiger and it hasn't eaten him yet... and may not ever, doesn't mean tigers are not predators. They have to be watched every second and your behaviors around them are the only thing holding back their natural instinct to have you for dinner. Such a tiger-owner could even believe that his tiger "loves" him.

Understand that the same evolutionary biology is at work in women, and the minute you look like "prey" to them they will eat you without one second of regret, and you'll have begun to understand redpill and AWALT.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-05-10T14:05:19+00:00

This belongs in AskTRP.

So I've been following the subreddit for a week

The OP is still deeply Blue Pill in thinking and just not ready to do a top level post.

As I recall about three years ago when I started here it was possible to restrict newbies from posting until some time limit passed.

I'd figure at least two weeks is about right.

leonardo_mac_4 · 2017-05-10T14:50:33+00:00

Concepts are generalized to make a point. There are of course exceptions. 1 week is too short to be posting off askTRP. It takes more than reading behind a computer screen to understand. You need field experience.

Some of the points you raise I agree need discussion. But this isn't the post to breakdown the exceptions.

I'm surprised this community survives being public.

anooblol · 2017-05-10T14:55:59+00:00

I'm no TRP endorsed, reliable spokesman for the subject, but I've been introduced to TRP for almost 2 years now. I've had the same thoughts, and the same issues with TRP.

At the end of the day, take this sub as a guide, and not as gospel. There's a lot of things I disagree with, and that's fine. Be a man and make your own decisions. If you don't like certain aspects, don't follow them.

I personally really like the self improvement attitude this sub has, and it really motivated me to change my life for the better. I followed the idea of treating women like animals, completely driven by instinct, and although it worked 99% of the time, it made me (specifically me) feel like an asshole. I don't like feeling that way, so I don't do it.

You're your own person, you don't have to agree with a movement completely.

G_Petronius · 2017-05-10T14:58:56+00:00

There is the PurplePillDebate subreddit for this.

DJ_Aretino · 2017-05-10T16:02:20+00:00

You have to keep in mind that this a subreddit for men. Posts here are about things that matter to men.

women are seen like animals here basically Yes, and there are valid arguments for that. There are also (equally) valid arguments for why men are animals, those just aren't presented here, because they're not useful for men who are trying to improve their lives.

In a parallel universe, this subreddit is populated by women and talks about how All Men Are Like That and what women can do to improve themselves etc. And everything posted there is about as true as everything posted here, but it's still only half of the truth.

Basically, don't fall into the trap of thinking that because there's less criticism of male actions here, that there's actually less about men to criticize. We just don't do that (as much), because that's not what this subreddit is for.

SasquatchMcKraken · 2017-05-10T15:20:43+00:00

You've misunderstood AWALT. It isn't just about sluthood. It encompasses far more behaviors than a propensity to be easy and all girls will exhibit at least one or two of these behaviors.

As well as a tendency (not an ironclad checklist) you also need to see it as an anti-unicorn defense mechanism. We have a dominant narrative of "women are wonderful," and AWALT is there to remind you that, actually, they're humans too. They're fucked up, they like sex and not always with you (even if you're dating), they shit test, etc. They're not some angel from on high whom you're lucky to have, which is how a majority of men view this shit. So when a guy goes "how could my perfect Hannah do X to me!?!?" we can go "AWALT." It's best to expect it rather than get fucked up with a blindside.

As for instinct, I agree we aren't directed by our instincts. But we are shaped by them, and this can't be said enough. We live in a world where your gender is whatever you think it is. We've over intellectualized this shit, denying that evolution/nature/hardwiring has anything to do with anything. You yourself exhibit a bit of this with your false equivalency over pumping and dumping. In reality there's a huge difference between the man and the woman in that situation. They're not "both sluts." Whether or not you personally prefer LTR's over ONS's is an entirely different matter.

Does love exist? Of course. I love my family and I've loved every dog I ever owned. The problem is confusing love with lust, as well as overestimating how durable love between two unrelated people can be. The divorce rate in this country bears this out. So does the rate at which women initiate these divorces.

Title	A discussion with TRP
Author	Tyler1Wannabe
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Comments	50
Date	May 10, 2017 1:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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