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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes there is.
Don't sacrifice ever. When she can't make it, say ok and leave it be. Then radio silence. If she' truly wants to hang out and hook up, she'll suggest something or will hit you back.
Based on what I'm reading you are a her 'Time Ho' and nothing more. Look that up. You will enjoy it.
[–]egga940 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just watched the Black Phillip video and there's some really valuable advice in there. My situation is rather mild compared to the caller's situation, but I'm going to take your advice regardless and go radio silent for awhile and see how it goes. Thanks man.
[–]reigorius4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If you haven't kissed or fucked and you still talk for hours... then you're doing something wrong. Fuck her first, then decide later if she is a keeper.
For the love of Red Pill God, do not develop oneitus before that or ever. If you do, you will give her the power to destroy you. So don't.
[–]TRPtruth7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
First of all, you should probably be posting stuff like this on ask trp, for future reference.
Second, the answer to your question is really super stupid-simple. If you take it beyond this stupid level you are doing it wrong.
Let me examine the two scenarios--you want an LTR or you want a plate:
Decide what you want, LTR or plate?
If LTR follow the Brad Pitt rule. If Brad Pitt texted her, would she make things work (within reason) in terms of scheduling, initiating texts, and meeting up? No shit she would. You need to be Brad Pitt to her, if you are not then she is not LTR material. She will waste your time and fuck the next guy that does make her vagina tingle the way Brad (or Chad) would. And guess what, her schedule is BULLSHIT!! Which means she either has a Chad that she is demoting you for because Chad won't commit to a time until he is ready to bone down or she just is not into you unless its time for her to insert an emotional tampon (i.e. YOU).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqhLO3SRyXU
Put in the effort you expect to get back. If you don't, you are. wasting. your. fucking. time. End of story. (And P.S. spare me the "she touched me" bullshit, just try to fuck her. Brush her hair aside softly on her face, kiss her and put your hand on her tits. If she doesn't like that, again you are wasting. your. fucking. time.)
And no response to texts or if she plays games (anything but "Yes, let's meet at X," or "Can't do Y but let's do Z" is a game in text) you respond with "ok" not "ok nameofchick" or "ok :)" or "ok <3," just "ok" without a period and without caps. Give her the same respect she gives you. Say it with me again. Don't waste MY MOTHERFUCKING TIME.
Do not push it beyond this because you are wasting your fucking time on this unicorn while other chicks are out there for you to fuck. College is the time to bang em out dude, not pine away for "teh OnE."
You are in college so I assume you are a young man so unless you are trying to lock down an HB8 to start pumping out kids, don't waste your time (even then don't waste your time on noncommittal assholes). Here is something that you just won't appreciate until you are 30. Life is way super short. And as you get older and watch friends and family unexpectedly die years before they thought, you will realize how time is OF THE ESSENCE. You have a lot to accomplish and a lot to do. You do not have time to be Mr. Tampon or Mr. Sloppy Seconds. You are number 1 and you treat yourself like number 1 and you expect whatever woman you are with to treat you as number 1. Because the buzzer will hit way sooner than you want it to. Trust me.
It may seem like it when you are younger, but you really do not have time to waste.
Lift, exercise, challenge yourself physically and mentally and set goals that require a lot of work (learn a language or set a financial goal or a fitness goal).
The chicks will come and go if you do that. I 100% guarantee it.
[–]eternal_temptation1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
^ This. I used to have 3 date (or days) rule... Day 1 : make out, squeezing her ass n boobs... trying to get as far as possible.
Day 2 : get a blow job (and try to get sex with her)
Day 3 : sex her up (last option - if she didn't, NExT).
If you aren't getting make out on day 1... there is no need to follow thru on day 2... I am not even talking about dates, If I met her during the day and could only get her number... I'd squeeze my day 1 and 2 on when we meet.
Ironically, this happened after spending 3 months in monk mode and hitting the gym for the first time in my life. She actually approached me first and has initiated physically first. It's been years since I've been in a relationship or even this situation because I've struggled with major depression and social anxiety since I was 16 until I started taking medication this past spring (I'm 21). If anything I think my problem might be not reciprocating enough physically, thinking that we had enough of an emotional connection.
[–]TRPtruth0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate you taking the step of posting and seeking advice and wanting to better yourself. I am proud of you for that. But you still need a lot of self improvement based on what you are writing. You are on the right track. That said, it does not seem you have read the sidebar material enough. Read more.
As to your actual reply you have things backwards. It does not go emotional connection first, physical connection second. It is the other way around: you have a physical connection first and then an emotional connection. You make her panties wet, then you fuck her brains out, and then she can't stop thinking about you. It's the dick and your confidence that makes the woman fall in love, not you treating her like a princess or being able to talk about the crazy connection you guys have over Notting Hill.
So go ahead and try to kiss the girl (www.youtube.com/watch?v=axZ6mG__ZqU). She wants you too. She's touching you. But she will stop wanting it if she concludes you are a pussy who can't even kiss her or put your hand on her tits with a shit eating grin on your face. I guarantee if you dick her down good her schedule will automatically free up.
Good for you for working through your issues--I am really glad to hear you doing it. Remember, you are number 1, you are the most important thing in your life, you make yourself happy and nobody else!!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
You didn't indicate whether or not you are returning her touches. If she's voluntarily touching you, that is generally a clear indicator that she wants you to reciprocate. Not reciprocating her touch is serious mistake that will land you in the friendzone.
If you haven't tried to move the relationship to a physical level after spending four to ten hours in her company then you're well on your way to the friendzone.
Radio silence on your part should help you ascertain her true interest level. If she's really into you she will call and find a way to be with you. If she's just using you as an emotional sponge/orbiter she won't put much effort into seeking you out.
She's kissed me on the cheek twice and held my hand before but I haven't tried kissing her because I felt like it was too early, since I'm just getting to know her. I think maybe I should just go for a kiss and see where it goes. If she doesn't like it I can know that I can move on.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay, up thread I think you mentioned you're 21 and in college. At that stage in your life it's almost never too early to go for a kiss.
You will know the time is right when you're isolated, in close physical proximity, and staring deeply into each others' eyes. At that point you have to go for it, and her response to your initiative will tell you everything you need to know from that point forward.
[–]Dustin_Bromain1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I recently dealt with a similar situation: Met a girl at some party, took her on two dates and went our separate ways both times. Trying to arrange the third date was a nightmare. I texted her three times on three separate days trying to arrange a meetup. She consistently gives me excuses as to why she couldn't hang out that night. So I gave her an ultimatum. Asked her to hang out and if she wasn't down then I would just next her. She flips like a pancake and asks me when she should come over. She spends the night. If the girl you're trying to f-close is giving you excuses and other bullshit, then I think it's really up to you to decide how much shit you're going to put up with before you say "enough is enough". If that chick hadn't agreed to come over the final time I texted her, I would have nexted the shit out of her and moved on with my life. But don't let this chick string you along. I'd recommend giving her an ultimatum. If she responds negatively to your ultimatum, then you're saving yourself a lot of trouble and headache later on down the road.
The only time women has scheduling issues, is when she's fucking someone better...
If Brad Pitt called her... will she have scheduling issues ? Fuck No.
[–]TheMGhandi1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This reads a lot better if you reverse the masculine and feminine words.
[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
9 times out of 10, I am the one who initiates a text and it seems like I'm always trying to work with her schedule in order to make things work, rather than her working with my schedule. I make sacrifices to spend time with her and I feel like she often gives petty excuses for why she can't meet up at certain times, making me feel like I'm the lowest priority on her schedule.
That's because you are. She's just not that into you. You are the beta she wants to keep on a back burner while she lets Chad fuck her senseless in the hope that Chad will commit to her... but just in case he doesn't... good old beta egga94 will be waiting in the wings to save her.
This belongs in AskTRP and I'd give it the same answer. Can people please start learning the difference between what belongs on TRP and what belongs on AskTRP?!!
I left some valuable information out of this post to save some time but after seeing some answers I think I'll need to clear it up a bit. She's from Guatemala and she's religious. As such, she's quite conservative and traditional. I know she's a virgin and as far as I know, there's a very low possibility she's seeing other guys, and a very low possibility of riding the CC. I see her as LTR material, not a typical American girl, which I've lost any interest in having an LTR with.
[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right, let's clear one thing up before we go any further. You are an idiot with poor judgement.
The evidence of this is:
Now let's quickly move on to your reply itself and I'm going to point something very important out to you:
She's from Guatemala and she's religious. As such, she's quite conservative and traditional. I know she's a virgin and as far as I know, there's a very low possibility she's seeing other guys, and a very low possibility of riding the CC. I see her as LTR material, not a typical American girl, which I've lost any interest in having an LTR with.
Where does it say there that she does not see you as a backup choice? Everything you've written screams that even if she is good LTR material... she's aiming higher than you or holding out for better than you. The very fact that other things take priority over you demonstrates categorically that you are not top of her list of priorities and therefore not the alpha male she wants to tame.
As a general rule: If she wants you, you will be able to tell because she will fall all over herself and change her plans to accommodate spending time with you.
You are gerbilling everything. Her pussy is so obviously sat on a giant pedestal within your love shrine. My advice is to get the fuck away from her and get some perspective. But I don't think you're capable of that. My prediction is you'll go back to her and provide her with all the attention she desires while getting nothing in return.
I see her as LTR material, not a typical American girl, which I've lost any interest in having an LTR with.
This sounds like heavy scarcity mentality. You've known her 3 weeks and singled her out above other women already.... chicks can keep up a false front for MONTHS and you're already planning marriage and kids. Go take a cold shower and come back when you're actually out of denial and ready to swallow the pill.
When I message a plate at like 24 hours notice to say "I'm coming over this weekend, sort out your place and get food in to cook." They leap at the chance and change whatever plans they had to accommodate my decision. The fact you can't do that demonstrates that she is not that interested in you. Move on before you develop serious oneitis. Or follow your own judgement... your own poor judgement. There's nothing more I can do here.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've only ever done this once accidentally but it's something i will do more of in the future, especially with Tinder meet ups. Considering it worked so well last time.
Schedule multiple dates at the same time. That way when she flakes, who cares?
When called out on it, throw it back on them and say something along the lines of "Girls are so unreliable" and question a Girl specifically, "How many times have you not showed up to a place?" or something along those lines.
Worst case scenario you have 2 or 3 Girls having a cat fight over you in a public place, record that shit bro. That shit's hilarious.
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