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Am I doing something wrong? Can't convert one night stands to spinners.

NeedRPadvice

August 21, 2013
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Title Am I doing something wrong? Can't convert one night stands to spinners.
Author

NeedRPadvice

Upvotes 7
Comments 9
Date August 21, 2013 5:01 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ktbwj/am_i_doing_something_wrong_cant_convert_one_night/
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Comments

[–]themoor5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

My experience with one night stands is that they often, but not always, do not come back for more, even if the sex was great (and I always make sure it is).

So why is this?

Simple... they like feeling slutty and naughty while doing the deed. But to come back for more they would have to look you in the eye all the while thinking, "He thinks I'm a slut."

Often, ONS happen after drinking, when defenses are down. She can be horny and DTF that night... but then, in the light of the next day she feels like she did something wrong and doesn't want to face the person she did it with.

That's one scenario.

Another is that she's totally into it and had a great time. But she's not looking for BF material and thinks if she banged you again you'd become a stage 1 clinger.

No biggie. Keep spinning...

[–]the_letter_P 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm no expert on it, but its hard to say based on the info given.

Are you keeping things alpha and "fun" afterwards? You're not getting beta in your pillow talk and putting them off or anything? You have to make yourself appear as the fun, dominant, sexy guy she goes to for no judgement sex times. She won't want someone to talk about their feelings or their relationships, etc. This can happen if you get a bit too "affectionate" afterwards.

Did they have a good time during the sex itself? You have to be better and more dominant than their own beta boyfriend for them to subconsciously weight the risks and rewards and decide to do it. If they can get just as good sex from their own beta (or another alpha) you might not be able to compete.

Also, it may just be purely numbers. Not EVERY girl you fuck will be a plate. This too is a numbers game. Some girls just won't be up for it. It if has only been a small handful that are doing this, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. If its a large number doing it, then maybe look into these things.

Also, maybe post this and future questions at /r/askTRP too

[–]NeedRPadvice[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you keeping things alpha and "fun" afterwards? You're not getting beta in your pillow talk and putting them off or anything? You have to make yourself appear as the fun, dominant, sexy guy she goes to for no judgement sex times. She won't want someone to talk about their feelings or their relationships, etc. This can happen if you get a bit too "affectionate" afterwards.

Yes Im keeping it fun and alpha for sure. Their was no feelings talks or anything like that.

Did they have a good time during the sex itself? You have to be better and more dominant than their own beta boyfriend for them to subconsciously weight the risks and rewards and decide to do it. If they can get just as good sex from their own beta (or another alpha) you might not be able to compete.

Yea it was fun. They were even saying it was so good etc. But I dont really trust that.

[–]bananarepub 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OP, what you posted as problems happened to me so many times when I was gaming in the past, I gave up trying to understand. Just do it when you want it, if the girl doesn't want to come back. let it be. We can't fully understand them we can't change them, even they themselves don't know why they acting the way they do

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as you are getting pussy who cares?

It's all about playing percentages too. Say women you meet in a bar drinking might have a chance of 95% chance of being a ONS and 5% chance of being a plate. This means you need to fuck 20 women to get one plate. If you try day game say the chances are 50% of being a ONS and 50% of being a plate. If you want more plates then you should be approaching women in daytime settings. If you want bitches to fuck then getting them when they're tipsy in the bar is fine.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBESKBeUYcY

[–]MSoftHarem[M] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Evers89 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Happens to all of us. Even the guys who won't admit it. Girls are flaky as hell by nature as it is. There's some great replies here. The state they were in at the time is key.

Example. I had a friend whom I eventually hooked up with and she avoided hanging out with me afterwards. I saw her at a group outing this past weekend and we chatted about it. Her words " I thought you'd think I was a slut and was afraid you'd judge me. I was too embarrassed."

See what I mean? I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most of the women I turn into plates are the ones I built a connection with before bedding. Gives them more reason to see me again. ONS are brutal for that. There's nothing there. It's awkward as fuck. They have boyfriends. They plain and simply have no god damn clue who you are.

To a girl, the risks just pile up.

My advice: Instead of trying to turn a one nighter into a plate, spend some time just building something with a girl and then proceed as usual. I've met girls at the bar, but instead of fucking them then, ill prolong it. Work on your text game and you'll be all right. This is just my experience with girls.

[–]rugbytitsandmedicine -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hate to break it to you bro but... you suck at sex.. needs improvement.

Never had these issues,

Checklist. Fuck her hard, cuddle, sleep, middle of night fuck her again. Wake up morning fuck her again, get breakfast together then leave. Basically start a relationship but don't be a boyfriend

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