I've been looking through other subs to see through the eyes of the BP lens, to gain some perspective. It has been a real eye opener for me in just how disillusioned people are. I've provided a couple examples. You guys can probably tear this apart much better than I can, so have a go.
Last night my wife confessed to me she may have slept with a stranger 5 months ago while on a Hen's night.
"may" have? How do you even... (FYI for americans, hens night = bachellorette party)
After being at several drinking spots she was very intoxicated. She did not know the other women very well so found herself at the bar with a man who bought her drinks and kissed her.
Well obviously she was hanging out with a random guy, she didn't know the other girls well! That's why she was there.
She said she then went with him to the beach where "something" happened. She says she remembers him on top of her and that she felt long pubes while attempting to push him off.
Interesting memory. She magically has the physiology where alcohol allows her to engage in controlled behaviors, walk, and order drinks, but has no memory of it whatsoever.
She then remembers waking on the sand with the man spooning her. She says she didn't "feel" like she had sex. No signs of semen and her vagina didn't feel like it does after we have sex or feel like anything had been forced in there. Yet says she can't be sure because she was so drunk. (I personally think she knows exactly what happened but is attempting sugar-coating it).
Looks like he's starting to catch on...
I tried to comfort her by saying you either didn't have sex or he had a tiny cock... She says she cant recall protection, but thank God she got herself tested and is clean.
I don't know if I would take her word for it at this point.
Right now I am mindfucked and confused. I love her and she says she loves me. We were both very upset last night. Yet had some great "makeup sex" after at my behest.
Good ol guilt sex.
A part of me just wants to pretend it never happened, one part of me wants to flog the shit out of her, another wants to find another woman and fuck the shit out of her out of spite,
Getting warmer.... Minus the spite.
another wants to push until I get every last bit of the story and another simply wants to curl up and die. Help....
To be fair, the guy at least has a solid hunch that this is fucked up. He seems to be under reacting in a big way, and anything other than a breakup is a green light for future cheating. She got drunk, fucked a guy on the beach, or at least tried, and is now trying to rationalize this as her just being too drunk. She was served alcohol at a bar, so I question how drunk she could have been (great way to lose your liquor license, plus pay thousands in fine).
SECOND example
Long story short. I (30m) have been in a relationship with my now wife (30f) for 6 years, married for 4. We have 2 children. I have 3 easy rules in our relationship; no cheating, no drugs, and no men in our home that I have not met while I'm gone.
That seems reasonable.
Without getting into too many details she has broken 2 of those rules. She has done drugs while I was away and behind my back while I was with there. She has also invited dudes into our house (her friends "friends") while I was gone.
Sounds like he's not very good at math. I counted 3 rules.
Although she hasn't "cheated" on me in the traditional sense. The last time I was gone she invited her friend (f) to come over who brought her friend (m) who I have never met to our house. She continued to drink and do drugs until she was blacked out.
I don't know if red flag does this justice.
I just found out that she got naked around 6 in the morning, because she finally asked her friend (f).
She claims to not remember being naked?
Her friend (f) said nothing happened but she also said she went to bed early.
Oh, so it's all good then.
She would only get naked for one reason, she is not the type of person to randomly get naked because she didn't want to wear clothes. She doesn't remember what happened that night and her "friends" aren't going to tell me.
She remembers.
Should I chalk this up to strike 3?
Yes
Or should I believe what her friend told her? Is getting naked while married in front of another dude considered cheating?
Yes
I know what her intentions were.
Do you?
I'm struggling to understand everything. My wife has entered a program because she and I know she has a substance abuse problem. She currently has 50 days sober and is working on herself. I don't know if I can forgive what has been done.
What's to understand? Your wife decided to do drugs, invite over a male, all while your children stayed in their rooms. Even in the .1% chance that everything was completely innocent, wouldn't you divorce her for endangering your children? So fucked up.
THIRD example This one is fairly manipulative.
I don't know what to make of the situation, I am in a messed up place and just felt the need to write this out. I just don't know what to do... Me and my girlfriend met at Uni when we both were freshmen. We clicked during our second year and have been together ever since. We weren't eachothers "first" or anything like that, I know she had previous boyfriends and I never really cared for having a long term relationship. She has always been the "relationship" type of girl while I just never cared. I guess I always been a bit of a "badboy" to say the least but I have never lied when being with someone. Most girls I met knew I wasnt looking for a relationship or anything like that but with her it was different. I started developing feelings for her after a week of dating and we became official within a month. I loved her with all of my heart and just felt like I met my soulmate. We moved in together during that year and have been living with eachother ever since. Last month I came home 2 days earlier after having visited my parents for a week and found her in bed with another guy. I wanted to surprise her and got met with a broken heart. This is the girl I wanted to spend the rest of my life with, the girl I wanted to propose to and build a family with. The emotional rollercoaster felt like being on a horrible trip of LSD, I just can't put it in another way, like a wave of negative emotions and time stopping, thinking about all the bad things. Was bombarded with apologies, cries, feelings of regret. She told me she met this guy for about a week at a friends houseparty and that this was just a short time thing that meant nothing, but I just didnt know what to believe. She encouraged me to do the same thing, to get back, that I could do it to her to be able to move on. I was just a total emotional wreck so I started going out with friends, and started dating again. I ended up meeting an old FWB and then the parties became more frequent. But through all of this I just couldnt forgive her, I still cant, i keep thinking about her and the other guy and I dont know what to do. 4 days ago I told her everything of what i felt, who she once was to me and what she became after that, that she was the girl I wanted to live the rest of my life with but that I just couldnt forgive her, that I am starting to enjoy my old lifestyle and that I just want to move on. I have moved in with a close friend until I can find my own place and have been bombarded with messages, calls, apologies and her begging for forgiveness. Yesterday my sister told me my girlfriend (or ex) had tried to commit suicide, that she had overdosed on pills or something and is lying at X hospital. Her family is there and I just dont know what the fuck to do. I dont feel anything, I dont feel sorry for her, I dont feel angry, I just feel empty. Sister is trying to get me to go there but I just cant see her right now. It feels awkward. I dont know if her family knows whats going on between me and her but its just such a fucked up situation to be in. I dont want to see her again but at the same time I dont know what do to. I feel she is a fucking idiot for trying to take her life over a pointless relationship that SHE ruined. tl;dr: girlfriend cheated, let me have a free pass on fucking another girl and I ended up moving on. She now tried to commit suicide and is lying at the hospital. I dont know what to do
Real TL;DR: Guy comes home early to suprise gf, other dude in bed, she apologizes and gives him a free pass to bang someone else (because that makes it equal?!). He initially goes along with it, then changes his mind and breaks up with her. She blows up his phone, and then makes an attention seeking suicide attempt. Sister urges him to visit her in hospital.
So she bangs a dude and gets caught; who KNOWS how many she banged over the years. Then thinks that her giving permission to fuck someone else will make everything okay. When he sees reality, she freaks out, and 'overdoses' in hospital. So she likely took 7 tylenol, told ER she took 70, and they certified her for a few days. Textbook BPD manipulation.
I just wanted to show a couple examples that jumped out. Enjoy!
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