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Are things going to get better for men?

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June 3, 2014
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Title Are things going to get better for men?
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Upvotes 5
Comments 15
Date June 3, 2014 10:32 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/276vuy/are_things_going_to_get_better_for_men/
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[–]WTF77777775 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The powers that be wanted to expand and increase the tax base and boost the economy and break the labor unions back in the 60's. A social experiment was put into play and bets were placed as women were coaxed out into the workforce in the name of equality. They're trying to convince the Gay community they too are missing out. Bring on gay marriage. The family court system is a 50 billion a year for profit system designed to redistribute your income, assets, and freedom at a future date.

I've read your passage somewhere before. It's probably true. I don't know. I wasn't there. I do know one thing. Any man in America would need to have his head examined for getting married or having children, or marrying or even cohabitating with a woman and her kids. They're locking us up for non payment of child support for kids not even ours never mind our own.

5 kids from 3 paying BABY DADDIES ? There's no incentive for a woman to stay married to one man. She can simply collect child support from multiple men. One loses a job, ends up in jail cuz he can't pay his child support ? No worries. There's 2 more paying baby daddies. What risk does the woman bear in having babies ? Does she risk jail time for non payment of child support ? No. What penalty does she pay for having the 5th child she can't support on her own ? More and more government services. Where's the financial aid for fathers that can't afford to pay child support ? Watch the new Docu-movie Divorce Corp. by Dr. Drew, trailer is on Youtube. Also listen to Tom Leykis on Youtube and the manwomanmyth channel as well. Tell 10 friends to tell 10 friends. Don't get married. Don't have children. Move to Asia. The family court system is a 50 billion a year for profit system designed to redistribute your income, assets, and freedom at a future date.

[–]circlhat1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Things are getting better for men and terms of child support, divorce, dating and so on.

I not going to blame all the worlds troubles on feminist, furthermore 'socialism' vs 'capitalism' leads to a political discussion

Personally I'm capitalist, but I tend to keep that to myself otherwise we will turn into /r/politics

I don't think we are becoming socialist because we lost man hood or becoming sissies, the government naturally seeks more power, the solution is for us to run for office or aggressively lobbing

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Things are getting better for men in terms of child support and divorce? Then why the book Men on Strike? The documentary Divorce Corp.? Why is the marriage rate going down and the divorce rate not improving? With states getting kickbacks from the feds for administering child support cases and lawyers collecting a tidy 50 billion a year in the divorce business, why would the rules ever be changed to keep american families in tact? Yea we are the next Roman Empire.

[–]circlhat0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Some courts are offering 50/50 joint custody with no child support from either party, things aren't great, but its no where near as bad as the 1970's.

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And how is the woman to support herself and the kids if she wasn't particularly successful in school or in the workplace? Remember, there is no personal accountability for one gender, and they outnumber us and vote. You think they're going let a 6 figure guy off the hook and stick her and the kids onto the taxpayers backs?

I'm referring to a predominantly white community where I've experienced the following: 5 kids from 3 paying BABY DADDIES !!!!? There's no incentive for a woman to stay married to one man. She can simply collect child support from multiple men. One loses a job, ends up in jail cuz he can't pay his child support ? No worries. There's 2 more paying baby daddies. What risk does the woman bear in having babies ? Does she risk jail time for non payment of child support ? No. What penalty does she pay for having the 5th child she can't support on her own ? More and more government services. Where's the financial aid for fathers that can't afford to pay child support ?

[–]circlhat0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I agree with you 100%, that very fact lets me know there is actual hate against men.

If two kids have a child the man is going to have to pay child support and the girl is going to get welfare.

Than we wonder why the crime rate is higher for men

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you imagine though a situation where a man marries a woman with kids from a prior relationship? And when this new couple divorce the man is forced to pay child support on her kids from the prior relationship? And if he can't pay his child support on the kids not his he ends up in jail? Black and white unite ! ! ! This shit needs to end ! ! ! We should all march on Washington ! ! ! Pass the word ! ! !

It's not so much hatred for men. We are an easy target with plenty of fresh suckers blinded by hormones falling into the Venus Fly trap daily. Lawyers profit from women's lack of morals and bad behavior.

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most all 6 figure women are smart enough to not marry and procreate with loser men. Oprah for example. Never married. No kids. Tiger Woods? Not so smart. So yeah, if you're equals in terms of assets and incomes you can go your separate ways without enduring the next 15 years of regular trips back to family court for adjustments and bickering.

[–]LibertarianLibertine1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's your source for the Rome story? I find the decline and fall of the Roman Empire very interesting and I find the mainstream idea of it collapsed because of invading barbarian tribes rather lacking as it crumbled bit by bit for decades/centuries

[–]lordofthejelly 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are things going to get better for men?

In a word, yes. We'll see how well I can explain this on my phone.

First, understand the difference between public views and private views...public views are what you publicly think and say, private views are the ones you keep to yourself and don't tell anyone. If you did, that view would by definition become a public view.

If everyone thinks X, we do X. If everyone publicly says they think X, but privately think Y, we're still going to do X.

Revolutions happen when everyone suddenly finds out that everyone else actually thinks Y...they happen when the private views have already shifted, and then suddenly become public views.

It's when everyone says "long live the king" while thinking the king is an idiot...once everyone realizes that everyone else also thinks the king is an idiot, that king is toast.

In the past, revolutions were impossible to predict because private views were by definition private, and no one told anyone else their private views until the tectonic plates of public opinion shifted.

But in today's world, the internet allows us to openly talk about our private views anonymously. My TRP views are private views, but I can still talk about them here because I'm not associating my name with them.

Go to any comments section on Reddit, or YouTube, or the New York Times, look at all the pro-manosphere comments being made anonymously...today, we can watch as private views shift in real time, even as public views mostly remain static.

Once the private views have shifted sufficiently, the real anti-feminist backlash will begin...given that we can watch this shift in real time on the internet, it's safe to say it's only a matter of time.

[–]Piroko 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It'll get better.

In our lifetime?

No, I plan to retire on a yacht and watch things get worse from the safety of some large body of water.

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just outside of Asia park that yacht for a steady supply of beauties.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be honest I hear more and more normal guys standing up to the bullshit and speaking out in public (shaming be damned) and I hear more and more normal women agreeing that feminism has gone too far and things aren't fair for men.

I think a lot of the silence on the part of men comes from a lack of perspective and a feeling of being alone. For the most part, guys don't realize just how bad our civil rights have been attacked over the past several decades and even if they do, they are afraid to go against the herd mentality. Most of the men who bitterly laugh at the notion of men's rights aren't actually opposed to the concept and don't seriously believe that men don't have civil rights issues to discuss, they're just cowards who are afraid of being attacked by ardent feminists.

And I think a lot of the silence on the part of women comes from a lack of understanding and empathy. Most women are so self-involved that they have no idea about the experiences of men or how laws affect men. Even if they do most women lack the ability to feel empathy for men they aren't closely related to. However women are indeed capable of caring about the interests of alpha males who they desperately desire. When those alpha males begin speaking up about men's rights (and they have) all of a sudden women act like they've had a profound revelation and begin promoting men's rights all on their own. Sure it's in an attempt to appear attractive to those alphas but who gives a fuck about motives.

This shit spreads slowly but surely. Alpha males run the show and inform the zeitgeist. Women will always follow them. And while I'm not personally affected by certain civil rights violations that feminist have perpetrated, they are an insult to my sense of justice. I am more than happy to leverage my SMV to promote men's rights and I do it whenever I have the opportunity.

I've also started to see more and more judges stand up against the gynocentric mainstream. This will really start to come to a head within academia and politics. Women are still the majority voting block and politicians have a lot to gain by pandering to them, and feminists have a strong foothold in academia that they won't give up without a bitter fight. But as men become more politically conscious as a group and gain some sense of solidarity in voting I believe that we'll start to see politicians begin to pander to us as well. And as the value of a women's studies college degree continues to fall, I believe that the draconian and intellectually dishonest feminists within academia will fall by the wayside. They are already trying to inculcate themselves within other disciplines (see feminist biology) but these efforts will ultimately fail as ideology is incompatible with science.

I have high hopes. I don't expect that it will happen soon and I expect that the man-hating feminists will put up an ugly fight but I do believe that there is a change coming.

[–]WTF77777770 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the looks of it, 20 something males are all to eager to sit there and buy the user chicks drinks all night in the hopes of getting sex. By their late 20's men are all too eager to marry these user chicks and suffer devastating divorces in their 30's and 40's. Men are blinded by hormones. Prostitution remains illegal. We're doomed.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Removed. Please see the sticky. Off topic posts now belong here: /r/TRPOffTopic.

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