Big argument in LTR. Advice?

Crusty_Jizzsock · 2021-08-02T09:16:40+00:00

Hi guy, Crusty the Jizzsock here. Crusty on the outside but still warm and sticky on the inside.

You just failed a shit test, my friend. What's done is done but you'll get more of these as bad as this one or worse, because you failed this one. When you pass a few of these they'll scale back in levels of drama so don't freak out over it. Women dial this shit upto hardcore mode the more you fail them and dial them back down the more you pass them. They'll never end though.

When she became an emotional wreck you did the right thing by staying calm but then you fucked up by engaging her. My following advice is going to be hard to do at first but when you get this it'll be ez pz everytime because you'll have a higher order understanding of what's going on in the moment. Next time you notice she turns emotional, do not argue with her and do not try to use your problem solving abilities for her issues. You probably have heard that before, but there's an important backstory into a woman's mind as to why this is the case. Emotions and feelings have a much stronger chord within a woman's mind than it does for a man. It's so strong it becomes the filter they see everything through in that moment. They can have exactly the same day back to back but one day was the best and the next day was the worst. Nothing changed but the emotional filter she had on that day. Anyone that has lived with women has seen this and been confused by it.

The feeling/emotion a woman is having is correct, by default. Think of it like how the smell of rotten meat is gives you intense revulsion and think of how impossible it's going to be for anyone to shake your feeling from that. Women are exactly the same when it comes to arguing and venting about their problems; you can't shake them from the feeling, the meat is rotten, end of story. All the facts and evidence in the world doesn't change anything because her feelings are correct and the meat is rotten, end of story. So it didn't actually matter even if, hypothetically, you told her you actually did try your best to help her that night and had a long heroic story of everything you did. The emotion/feeling beat you in the race to her mind, the race is over and nothing you can do can change the result.

So this is what you do next time she goes emotional wreck on you;

Let her vent, just listen and let her blow her steam like a pressurized kettle. Stay calm and just keep listening. She's going to say everything she wants to say. Usually this is where it ends and she calms down in her own time because most emotional wrecks aren't about you so it's all good - but you will fuck it up if you engage and figuratively try to feed her a piece of that meat she's feeling revulsion for.

Next: If she's in this to start a fight then it's turned into a shit test and you quit. If you feel this is going to start a fight, you quit. Walk out the door unannounced and unphased and go do something for a couple hours before coming back without explanation or anything. Maybe put some nice clothes on and go hang out with a friend. Go grab your golf clubs or basketball or whatever. Go put some clothes on to get a beer or dinner. The point this is making is that you're the kind of person who has better things to do than deal with someone else trying to start bullshit with you. When you come home later she's probably still going to be fuming and she will silent treatment you. She's going to be expecting you to initiate a peace deal but don't do that, let her take days to calm down. You're ok to tease her a tiny bit about her bad mood to try to force a smile out of her. She's going to wonder where the fuck you went and what you were doing. If she asks you and you're sure she's calmed down by this point then tell her she was being unreasonable so you went to go play some golf / catch up with your buddy Mike / go get some dinner, etc. She will be in disbelief you just went and did what you wanted. If she's calmed down there's a good chance she will agree she was being unreasonable or she might laugh, or she might be pissed off over it. She'll be much calmer by this point so it'll be fine. But that's passing the shit test which is scoring some Alpha points. Alpha points are like the points Beta's earn for doing all the housework and buying her nice shit, except Alpha points can be used to exchange for sex that's actually pretty good. Don't hate on shit tests. They're easy and very low effort compared to Beta game, once you learn to recognize them and pass them.

When you pass a few of the really bad shit tests like these ones she will scale the shit tests right back to small scale stuff that doesn't result in this level of drama. Shit tests never end they're as natural for a woman as you sneaking a peak at some great cleavage.

Sex is lacking from her end, which we’ve discussed and she puts it down to being tired (granted she is insanely busy but can’t pretend it doesn’t bother me). And some other things I won’t get into.

That's because you failed all your shit tests and she marked your exam and scored you a B for Beta. Don't let your grades drop any further or you'll be scoring C for Chump and she's gone. B for Beta means she's pigeon holed you as someone that needs to do Beta Game for sex. I'm not really in the mood to do a write up on this one right now but I've been in a dead bedroom marriage with my wife before it finally clicked and fixed it. You can absolutely turn this around like I did. It takes reviving some Alpha Game because right now she's pigeon holed you as a Beta that needs to earn some good boy points before she rewards you with occasional starfish sex. It's going to take some changes and probably revival of some old qualities you had which attracted her to you in the first place.

The-Wizard-of-Oz- · 2021-08-02T08:39:44+00:00

Don't apologize.

Just ignore it.

And understand its much easier to ignore it if you truly don't give a Damn. And you shouldn't

Sephiroth341 · 2021-08-02T08:32:14+00:00

In an LTR, you can't begin to tolerate stupid arguments about stuff like this. There'll be a whole lot more where this came from if you fold. My advice would be to keep yourself busy with other things, if she doesn't message you back to make up and apologise at very least, she's probably not worth the hassle.

Cfwydirk · 2021-08-02T09:16:55+00:00

My opinion. She would have called if she needed you. She too is working on her game. Her game is manipulation and having power over you. Be glad she is showing her true colors to give you a look at the future with her. If you were/are thinking of marrying her, her libido will not change. Sex will be for making babies.

You are working redpill to become a better man. Go find yourself a woman who wants to be a better person.

Good time to say good bye.

Seneca_13 · 2021-08-02T14:45:10+00:00

This is a situation where you are damned if you do and damned if you don't, all the signs point to the fact that she orchestrated this specifically to start a fight with you. If you contacted her she would have flipped out about you not giving her space, suffocating her, stalking her, giving her the a reason to be angry and lose all inhibition with her friends at the party. If you ignored it you are cold and don't care about her so on and so forth, you know how it turned out. Consider the following:

She chose this blowout conveniently when she was on a trip. It's an inside joke among members of this sub how women behave when they go on trips for some time, especially for extended periods.

2.You, me, and all men in this sub will agree that she should have contacted you if there was an issue, this is what any normal person would do. instead she contacted her father and advertised it on social media, this is blatantly deceptive, there is much more to her story.

She broadcasted the "incident" on social media, she is preemptively creating a narrative where you are the asshole boyfriend who mistreat her, giving her validation to do what she wants while away.
You mentioned she is is lacking in labido, this is a massive red flag. If a woman is sexually attracted to you, there is nothing that will stop her from jumping your bones if she has the chance. Fatigue is nothing to a horny woman. I worked the night club scene for years in my early twenties and some chicks would work 14 and 16 hour shifts then go to the next job, living on a few hours of sleep and red bull, Wana guess how much dick they sampled while being fatigued?
You are assuming that your woman sees you differently now that you are getting your shit together, perhaps you think she respects you more. Unfortunately most people don't think this way. Once a woman knows you and your weaknesses that's who you will always be to her, she will never forget. She will not accept your drastic change, and will believe that there is either an outside source for why you have changed, or that you are faking. She will go nuclear with her shit tests especially if the respect was severely lacking before your change.

I'm not here to convince you, I'm here merely to inform. You can do with this information whatever you want. That being said, your girl is on her way out. Dump her fast and don't look back. Become an emotionless robot and don't entertain or react to her provocations. Just leave. It's not only in your best interest, it's in hers as well.

Also you can attempt to demote her to plate status, if that's an option for you, either way this girl has clearly demonstrated that she is not LTR material. Open your eyes mate.

AllocNeighley · 2021-08-02T09:24:49+00:00

When she thinks "You've changed"

She will shit test the living fuck out of you. Are you The Man or still a bitch?

I take it you found trp during the ltr. For her it's not what she signed up for. But somehow she got an upgrade. Now is this upgrade good for her? Hypergamy and Briffault's law.

Being The Man is good enough for her, she just don't want to have a donkey acting like a lion

mfhommie · 2021-08-02T09:44:10+00:00

Your mindset is completely right, don't you worry on that. Every ounce of it.

It is shit test from her. Don't do anything Be calm. And let her apologize

redhawkes · 2021-08-02T13:51:32+00:00

Drop her, she's in the process of branch swinging. All this drama was just an excuse. Don't argue with bitches, ever. It's worthless.

LTR fixed itself

Sex is lacking from her end, which we’ve discussed

Chose one. The move here is to break up, your last paragraph tells us everything. Can't negotiate attraction, too late for dread.

Next time post in askTRP over trp.red

Title	Big argument in LTR. Advice?
Author	xgoodvibesforever
Upvotes	2
Comments	17
Date	August 2, 2021 8:01 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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