Buddhism and TRP

trems · 2013-12-23T07:07:30+00:00

I personally find Buddhism a very beautiful religion, though not a "religion" in the judeo-christian sense of the word. So here's some small sections I find applicable to TRP. Note that I'm relatively new to the Buddha's teaching myself, so if I give a misunderstanding of something someone else feel free to correct me.

The most fundamental teaching of Buddhism is the Four Noble Truths: The Truth of Suffering (dukkha), the truth of the origin of suffering, the truth of the cessation of suffering, and the truth of the path to the cessation of suffering, where the noble eightfold path you mentioned comes into play. Note that "suffering" isn't the best word to describe dukkha...this is just a limitation of Pali -> English translation. Another word I've heard used is "unsatisfactoriness," the latent dissatisfaction with life or the constant desire for more and more things, relationships, power, etc. etc.

As I've practiced further and further, I've found myself desiring sexual relationships less and less. Sex itself, especially the "one-night-stand" type, are perhaps the most fleeting of pleasurable experiences. Clinging to these experiences, or clinging to the lack thereof, is a source of suffering. But according to the Buddha, learning "game" or whatever to increase your access to sex and relationships is not the way to alleviate the suffering, but rather ceasing to desire them. This is done through learning of the scripture and meditation on the origins of sexual desire.

It leads me to believe, then, that Buddhism, on the fully-taken path, leads to a sort of MGTOW status. Seeing relationships and sex as fleeting and impermanent, and the clinging to sex as suffering, the buddhist follower goes to the source of this desire/craving, observes it through contemplation and meditation, and ultimately ceases that desire. This is why monks and nun in Buddhism fully renounce romantic relations - it is seen as limiting oneself from reaching the cessation of suffering, nirvana.

That said, the Buddha said that sexual desire was one of the most difficult to renounce, for it is biological in nature, like our desire for food. I don't remember exactly which Sutra, but the Buddha claimed that if he had two desire as strong as sexual desire as opposed to one, he could have never reached enlightenment. It's a daunting task, and generally one reserved for only committed monks.

Assuming you don't want to become a monk, then, the Buddha offers the guideline of refraining from "sexual misconduct" for lay-followers. This is open to interpretation, but generally means refraining from sexual conduct that harms another person. So this obviously means don't rape/commit sexual assault and such, but it's more nuanced than that. From wikipedia:

"There is, in the Buddhist view, nothing uniquely wicked about sexual offenses or failings. Those inclined to develop a guilt-complex about their sex-life should realize that failure in this respect is neither more, nor, on the other hand, less serious than failure to live up to any other precept. In point of fact, the most difficult precept of all for nearly everybody to live up to is the fourth — to refrain from all forms of wrong speech (which often includes uncharitable comments on other people's real or alleged sexual failings!)...What precisely, then, does the Third Precept imply for the ordinary lay Buddhist? Firstly, in common with all the other precepts, it is a rule of training. It is not a "commandment" from God, the Buddha, or anyone else saying: "Thou shalt not..." There are no such commandments in Buddhism. It is an undertaking by you to yourself, to do your best to observe a certain type of restraint, because you understand that it is a good thing to do. This must be clearly understood. If you don't think it is a good thing to do, you should not undertake it. If you do think it is a good thing to do, but doubt your ability to keep it, you should do your best, and probably, you can get some help and instruction to make it easier. If you feel it is a good thing to attempt to tread the Buddhist path, you may undertake this and the other precepts, with sincerity, in this spirit."

As for relation to TRP, it's hit-or-miss. We may understand the nature of female sexuality, but to hate women for their nature would be wrong in Buddhism, for it preaches that compassion for all beings is of upmost importance. So we may understand all the things about sexual nature and strategy, but a Buddhist must retain his compassion in these affairs and not become angry and bitter about it. Other things, like the "Dark Triad," may also be understood but to attempt to assimilate that behavior within oneself would be directly against the Buddha's teaching.

I think I've spoken enough. Any search on "Buddhism and Sex" will lead you a plethora of thoughts from Buddhist scholars on the issue.

If you're interested in learning more about Buddhism in a structured way, I've found the audio files here very informative: http://www.sobhana.net/audio/english/bodhi/index.htm

positiveeagle · 2013-12-22T22:54:18+00:00

Impermanence can be applied to the concept of relationships and marriage. To believe a relationship will last forever is conceit, and also causes people to treat them as something that will always be there. Thus, you have men and women taking advantage of a life long commitment by lessening what they used to give in a relationship, or they try to demean certain demands by their partner rationalized by "a love that is unbreakable."

[deleted] · 2013-12-22T23:45:37+00:00

I follow some buddhist principles, they fit in nicely with trp. Though I doubt the rest of Reddit could grasp that.

Clauderoughly · 2013-12-23T05:09:47+00:00

Here is a good crash course primer on Buddhism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nn5uqE3C9w

cagethepepper · 2013-12-22T22:31:29+00:00

Funny. I just watched a program on TV about Buddhism and felt like I could relate it to TRP quite a bit.

Particularly aloneness.

Not sure if I could pull it off 100%, but it sounds very attractive.

[deleted] · 2013-12-23T03:23:58+00:00

Rush a frat

[deleted] · 2013-12-24T05:34:36+00:00

I've been a buddhist practitioner for seven years now. I had always understood the world according to the basic principles of Buddhism (not necessarily karma and rebirth, but a level deeper) but just didn't realize it.

Buddhism is a living tradition with many sects that all understand the teachings in a different way and consider some teachings as either orthodox or heterodox. One important thing to understand is that they also view the Buddha in a different way. So it's hard to talk about Buddhism as one monolithic entity. But I know a bit about Soto Zen and Nyingma Dzogchen if someone wants to discuss those schools of Buddhism.

Title	Buddhism and TRP
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