Cognitive dissonance - A redpill perspective.

sergeantbbbbs · 2016-11-18T08:30:39+00:00

For some reason I have a lot of cognitive dissonance towards trp in general. I know objectively it's true (belief one) but some part of me doesn't want it to be (belief two)

ukhoneybee · 2016-11-18T12:34:11+00:00

Is it not cognitive dissonance that you are trying to fuck women outside of wedlock, then insisting women shouldn't be have sex outside of marriage and that your brides be virgins?

Guys, you can have one or the other.

JamesSkepp · 2016-11-18T11:18:26+00:00

Every belief based system has contradictory things.

It's pretty much unavoidable in bigger groups of people, where there is less and less data driven opinions and more "opinion driven opinions".

On top of that TRP is in a unique position that it strongly polarizes people into either "TRP is a load of mysoginistic bs" or "TRP is the only true way". This, for part of the second group, leads to dogmatizing TRP, (for various reasons):

unfinished anger phase - the guys who write their posts using "bitch, hoe, slut" IOW general insults not concepts
confirmation bias - the more you read about it, the more it solidifies your belief, count the number of LTR/marriage success stories vs failiure stories, or even better count the number of "generally positive" threads vs "generally negative" ones
sunken cost fallacy/time invested - too much TRP, not enough life "outside" TRP (in this context understood as the only "philosophical doctrine" that guides your decisions in life)

These are some of the examples I've found here while reading through the posts and comments.

High n-count woman is not LTR material, but go out and fuck different girls to have abundance mentality.

AWALT, hypergamy, abundance mentality contrasted with "in good old times, where very man was revered alpha and every girl a virgin saint".

I'll skip the political ones not to start a shitstorm.

RoutaOps · 2016-11-18T09:49:21+00:00

What I've gathered about TRP, is not that all western girls are sluts that go cheating on you all day, but AWALT that they have similar tendencies. tTe wall and branch swinging. TRP doesn't encourage marriage as we should allready know that its just your turn. But of couse world is full of exceptions and one might find a good girl for them, they might want to try it out. Therefore MarriedTRP exists.

Katavasis · 2016-11-18T11:10:01+00:00

I think there are exceptions to every rule,but..

In poker we have a mental excercise for new guys.

When you are a newbie,you always play a certain way,like a robot.Without going into details,you bet a specific amount every time,you play ONLY certain hands,you bet only when you are in certain positions etc. There are moments in poker,where YOU KNOW tha tyou if you break the aformentioned rules,you will win.But,you don't do it when you are a newbie.You never break the rules,even if you knew you were gonna earn more money,because it engraves in you a negative habbit,that in the longterm,will harm you.

It's called playing by the odds.Yes there are great gals out there,but if you play by the odds,you are safer if you assume that every girl is the same and will participate in the expected behaviours.In the longterm,this will benefit you.

If you are a young guy,play by the odds and follow every rule to the teeth.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-11-18T13:06:57+00:00

AWALT means that women have a very strong inclination to act on any desire that they are emotionally attracted to even if that action can be destructive to herself or others.

Hypergamy can be controlled (as in her selecting the finest male to mate with) or it can be based on temporary depression (or over excitement) where she makes a decision because of emotions that she objectively does not benefit from.

Cognitive Dissonance in women is the "splitting" of the mind so that multiple contradictory beliefs exist at the same time.

So on one hand a woman wants to be a slut so she will advocate that people must stop "Slut Shaming".

But this same woman doesn't want the penalties associated with being a slut because that makes her a bad girl and she knows it.

So she will advocate a mythology where "Women are Innocent" as a cover story so that she can act the opposite.

The logic goes like:

Slut ----> Innocence ----> Contradiction (deception)
Slut ----> Guilty ---------> Agreement (honestly a whore)
Chaste ---> Innocence --> Agreement (mother material)
Chaste -----> Guilty -----> Contradition (guilt ridden religious)

The ideal is the low N count female who retains her innocence into a LTR combined with a man of high regard by her.

The guilt ridden religious women no longer exists, but years ago women could carry a guilty conscience even when they didn't objectively do anything wrong.

Obviously the whore lives a truthful life.

Only the deceptive "Good Girl" who rides the Cock Carousel™ in secret is a case where she must consciously maintain contradictory views in order to maintain her deception.

sir_wankalot_here · 2016-11-18T16:09:10+00:00

Everyone rationalizes to some degree. It happens at a subconscious level. Fitting reality to your belief system. Otherwise known as hamstering. As you said, TRP is full of it about certain things.

These men talk about how they're searching for that virgin kinda Christian girl to marry or something like that. Says AWALT but still believes that he'll find a "good girl"™ to marry. Notice the contradicting beliefs?

Yah, unicorns live in some far off land. A long time ago, men didn't get fucked over. More correct, a long time ago, DNA tests didn't exist, it was a lot easier for a woman to cuck a guy.

I wrote about why if happens here. But your examples are good.

Lying to the person in the mirror

http://acrackletsthelightin.info/2016/11/08/never-lie-to-yourself/

RestoreTheUnion · 2016-11-19T06:52:53+00:00

Mark Twain talked about this with his Internal Monarch in the Old Man/Young Man dialogue. The Redpill is simply an understanding that we live in a real world, and that real worlds have mechanics. The lies of liberalism mean that society's presentation is inconsistent with the reality that we see around us. Thus, opportunities to manipulate the mechanics: sexual arbitrage if you will.

That is because cognitive dissonance is the result of an internal reality that is not fully rationalized with the reality that you experience. It has been called many things in many languages, most familiar to us as simply being troubled.

Liberalism tells us to avoid and turn away from things that trouble us, and to find pretty rationalizations for why everything is all right. The extent of resentment and rationalization in society is a good 'tell' to show us how inconsistent things are with the presented reality.

An example of the influence of liberalism is this: Think of the Greatest Generation. Why were they great? They spotted evil and carried a willingness to die to burn down the cities of the master race fantasists, whose fantasy world allowed them to think war on all would even be feasible.

The soft lies and rationalizations of the liberal world force us to pretend that we could never be great. But then, that creates opportunities to 'hack' that system. See the redpill. See that there are mechanics, and that you can be great.

The only question remaining is, how do we define great without resorting to the same lying rationalizations, doublespeak, and sophistry that we did as former liberals, or those influenced by their lies?

Title	Cognitive dissonance - A redpill perspective.
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Date	November 18, 2016 3:51 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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