Cuckolded by the Welfare State

General_Fear · 2014-05-23T09:32:38+00:00

As long as there is a welfare, marriage is dead. Let me explain . . .

In the past, there was a time when welfare did not exist. There was no alimony and no welfare state. In that kind of world, the only way a woman could have a kid was thru a successful man. A woman in that world knew if the guy left the marriage, she was screwed. And keep in mind, that the women of the past had no job prospects. So she had to provide a good home that a man wanted to return to. She had to treat her man like a king. Cook, clean, make his meals etc etc . . .

Today, the financial glue that kept marriage together is gone. If a woman is a successful career woman, she does not need a man. She can provide for her kid by her self. There is always alimony. Which is private welfare. Payments paid to a woman directly cutting out the government middle man. And if she can't get alimony, she can always go on welfare.

Today, men are priced out of the market. A man has to compete with the welfare state. The role of provider is being taken away from him. So the day will come that he will be needed for one thing only. His seed. Government will provide the rest.

Alex_is_not_on_fire · 2014-05-23T03:10:39+00:00

The solution is obvious.

No it isn't. You can't just assert that a claim is obviously true and hope everyone falls for it. While the blogger does explain the lead up to the problem somewhat well, mandatory birth control is only one of several solutions, including more paternity testing (a far less restrictive option, too).

Alpha and beta have very useful meanings in finance. “Beta” is the return you get from eg the fact that stocks generally go up. Alpha is the return you get from buying the stocks that go up more, and selling the ones that go down. This model has broad applications to how people should think about success and risk (stay tuned for future posts on this topic).

I lost respect for this blogger when I read this, because this is at best terribly worded. Alpha is the return in excess of what is expected for that security, while beta is a measure of the systematic risk of a security - theoretically, a higher beta means more risk and hence a higher expected return as compensation. Specifically, if we are to use the CAPM model, then the return of an asset is r_a - r_f = alpha + beta (r_m - r_f) + epsilon where epsilon is a noise term that captures idiosyncratic risk and r_m is the market return. Under CAPM, alpha should be 0, so if you have positive alpha, that means you're beating the market given the amount of risk you're taking on.

If anyone wants to know more, just reply and I can give further details and / or provide links to other resources that also explain.

Hughtub · 2014-05-23T02:18:18+00:00

Totally agree with the solution: make those who consume more tax-funded resources have lower reproductive rates, through sterilization or childlessness as a prerequisite for welfare benefits. Nobody shall use kids as a tool for extortion of money from taxpayers.

tsotha · 2014-05-23T02:13:40+00:00

This is all very true, but the reality is women have the political power right now, and women like the situation the way it is.

Time_To_Be_Honest · 2014-05-23T04:44:27+00:00

He had good points, but overall, the article is full of mistakes and leading rhetoric.

The solution he suggests attempts to add existing rules to control a poor system. My preference is to remove the system. The current way in which the welfare system functions is not compatible with a productive society in which each citizen is responsible for themselves.

AnotherLostCause · 2014-05-23T05:46:58+00:00

The solution is simple but politically unacceptable. No man should be forced to pay for another mans child, be it through child support or taxes. Paternity fraud needs to be a crime with real penalties. Money stolen through paternity fraud should be no recourse when it comes to repayment. Women are responsible for children out of wedlock, men get custody of their children in a divorce. Simple. Proven effective.

Title	Cuckolded by the Welfare State
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Date	May 23, 2014 12:21 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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