Deception in Game

SpawnQuixote · 2013-04-04T01:52:46+00:00

Actual deception is bad. Full stop I have no respect for someone who lies about who they are or what they are.

Knowing how to market what you have is a different story, as long as no lies are involved.

VZPurp · 2013-04-04T04:00:34+00:00

Women only care about you while you provide value and will leave at a moment's notice when something better comes along. Knowing this information it is up to each man to formulate his own mating strategy. There are no rules in Love and War, gentlemen. Personally, I have a sliding scale based on her femininity. The more feminine she is the less I'll be inclined to lie.

SpawnQuixote · 2013-04-03T17:30:45+00:00

its "alphas" who do what it takes to succeed and accomplish their goals. "betas" who are told to paly bsy the rules are the ones who dont dare to "take" what they want, do whatever they can to achieve their goals.

be pragmatic. whatever works, works.

Ethan47 · 2013-04-03T18:05:29+00:00

Some words from Style. "It's not lying... it's flirting".

[deleted] · 2013-04-04T01:37:34+00:00

you're not truly being alpha, you're just a beta pretending

I dont see this correlation.

Women lie about their SMV all the time through wearing makeup, high-heels etc.

True.

Is there an ethical conflict here?

Yes.

How do you guys feel about men who deliberately lie and deceive women in order to increase their SMV and get a one night stand?

It's not necessary, and it is a result of men who are over thinking the reasons they aren't succeeding. If you think you need to lie to get laid, and not little white lies, but big lies (I'm an astronaut millionaire cowboy type lies), then you probably just need to learn the dance of seduction a little better.

forbinsdecline · 2013-04-03T22:30:21+00:00

I don't think lying to anyone is a very good practice. If you have to lie to women, you're doing something else wrong and should work on it.

[deleted] · 2013-04-04T13:25:46+00:00

Better to position yourself where you don't need to lie. Work out, dress well, educate yourself, travel, etc. It's certainly possible to build an interesting life story over the course of a few years

DaddyMonster · 2013-04-04T22:53:02+00:00

"At the same time though, if you have to lie about your SMV, you're not truly being alpha, you're just a beta pretending."

Are you refering to outright lies intended to increase SMV, like lying about material wealth?

If not, are you referring to practicable behaviors which increase attractiveness, like setting healthy boundaries, or perhaps seduction techniques (which are quite possible to internalize) like push-n-pull, kino, etc?

If you're referring to the first, which I'm assuming, I'd say that's pretty non-alpha.

If you're referring to the second, I'd say you're wrong. Deliberately changing one's behaviors and using social/seduction techniques can alter one's personality. Non-beta behaviors can and do turn betas into alphas. It's a process of internalization.

be_tru · 2013-04-03T22:48:47+00:00

If you reward lieing, I will lie. And give no fucks about doing so.

Many times I slip in some incongruency just to see if they will notice. They never do.

Title	Deception in Game
Author	md619
Upvotes	4
Comments	12
Date	April 3, 2013 4:58 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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