Do Women Have Free Will?

Xiphos462 · 2017-05-19T17:22:14+00:00

Looks like OP is butt hurt down voting everybody's critique of his in depth scientific analysis.

MentORPHEUS · 2017-05-19T17:50:45+00:00

woman places a low priority on objective reality

Your main premise here is flawed. While women might exhibit a slightly greater tendency toward allowing emotional decisions to trump reason, the capacity to do so is not exclusive to females. The Blue Pill sub is one overflowing reservoir of male examples.

I've never used bars and clubs to meet women, and my dating funnel weeds out bimbos and emotionally-driven mundanes by design. I've met enough populations of women who transcend the "basic bitch" category to know that they are not exceptions or outliers.

In conclusion, I think considering women incapable of free will is down to unsupported bro science and selection bias.

nicetimeisback · 2017-05-19T17:57:22+00:00

OP, your was a good question.

In truth, free will is just a concept, it does not really exist.

Everything is cause-effect, in a huge universal machine that goes on automatically, technically your destiny is already "fixed", there is nothing you can do to change it (no free will).

Second, and more important, the "you" that is going to take a choice (free will) too is just a concept, it does not really exist an entity (you) separated from the universe who take decisions etc. You are part of the universe and thus part of the big machine, you just go with the flow and that's it. Same for women

blackedoutfast · 2017-05-19T19:27:42+00:00

no but neither do men.

free will is an illusion

Fennecat · 2017-05-19T20:31:16+00:00

clap clap clap You ought to send your ego to work in the circus for its impressive display of mental gymnastics.

Quit using such diction as "Realz" and "feelz." They sound ridiculous and are most often used by the angry and bitter to relatively elevate themselves by belittling others.
Your theory is laced with generalizations and over-simplifications.
Look inward. What were your motives for concluding that women have no free will and implying that men do? Take the step back and you'll see that your ego wants to feel bigger and it biases you to go find conclusions that support its want to feel bigger. Your thought process was in fact more pathos than logos.
Do you really think one chromosome difference can effect such a cosmic contrast? What makes you think XX and XY is the difference of not having and having free will, of not being and being?

Edit: With all that said, I believe there is merit to your statements. Those who are subject to their emotions are reactive and have conduct less agency. Relative to men, women are a small degree more pathos-driven than logos-driven. The two points above cannot conclude that women do not have free will while men do.

GOATmar · 2017-05-19T19:14:13+00:00

Man growing to believe in Free Will is the most egotistical concept man has ever come up with, next to religion and God loving only us in the universe.

Everything is indeed a chain reaction from the very first event that spawned the universe. All your thoughts, all of the laws, civilizations, all of the events, all your actions are Constant Reactions to many other chain reactions that are still happening from way back then.

Nothing is random.

You are a slave to the laws of the universe, nothing you will ever """do""" will escape the laws.

Nothing you will ever """do""" will escape your biological programming.

It is due to our ego and rationalizing abilities that we think otherwise.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-05-19T16:08:17+00:00

Ever hear about those MRI studies, that see people making decisions a few seconds before they consciously do so? Effectively, machines were able to predict what people were going to do , at least on simpler tasks

Something to think about.

JamesSkepp · 2017-05-19T16:38:33+00:00

Free Will means that in objective reality you are free to make your best choice based on what knowledge is available to you. You are free to make an error and choose unwisely.

This assumes a "Reals before Feelz" mindset typical of the masculine male.

Actually - I don't need to have a objective view of reality, not even the correct one - I can have any view of reality and still have free will.

You're setting up the debate with wrong assumptions (typical of you is to present a false dilemma to the reader) - because she has wrong view of the world she does not have free will. You can say Michelle Obama is a transvestite demon (sadly it got removed before I got to TRP), whch is objectively idiotic, but you still have free will to post it.

Free Will means you choose between objective choices in the "Reals", but women invert that to mean elevating and expanding their "Feelz".

This is not free will either. Free will doe's not men being more or less objective. It's about whether you are the one who makes the decision and to what extent the decision you make are done by conscious choice

Had you have the capability to de-couple for a second from your esoteric bs, this post would be much more coherent.

B/c you can't, I'll do it for you:

Does the woman have a free will, assuming she bases her m-f decisions on emotions much more than a man does, up to the point that she cannot resist the emotion's despite her fully knowing (rationally) it's the wrong choice to follow them?

I've been toying with the idea myself, but can't point out to definitive answer beyond "depends on context". On one hand I'm certain she knows that fucking me is cheating on her bf and she knows that, on another I'm also pretty sure that she is perfectly capable of making a rational decision in her field of expertise (outside of m-f context)?

So the answer for me, in practical terms is not about "whether she has free will" but about to what extent can she control her decision making process when under the influence of emotions.

Xiphos462 · 2017-05-19T16:21:43+00:00

Sam Harris would say that you don't either. Judging by your bias and where you chose to post this based on previous conditioning, experience, compulsion and impulse I would say he's right.

Op thinks he's the architect of The Matrix explaining its design to a hot a chic Neo. Irony is the architect didn't really understand its design, the Oracle did.

BudRock56 · 2017-05-19T16:22:40+00:00

The OP thinks he is Aristotle now. See? This is what happens when you smoke weed.

Weed is an indicia of Beta. Fact. Case closed.

Nigel_Johnson · 2017-05-19T22:41:19+00:00

Free will lies in potential until one fully examines and dis-identifies from the subjective, conditioned-judging personality, and then creates an objective, technical frame of reference with regard to self.

GreenPiller · 2017-05-19T23:14:41+00:00

You are getting a lot of hate even though your theory seems pretty solid.

newName543456 · 2017-05-20T06:51:33+00:00

Trolls are gonna have a field day with that.

Title	Do Women Have Free Will?
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Date	May 19, 2017 4:01 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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