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Does anyone have a Red Pill Mentor?

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December 28, 2014

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I have been reading the side bar, regular posts and other material and I have started applying many of these things into my life, I have seen a definite change in my attitude and the positive effect this has had in virtually every relationship in my life.

However I feel like I am starting to get to a point where sometimes I am not sure if I am making the best choice or sometimes not even sure if I am even going the right way with some little, but significant things and I don't think asking a bunch of moronic questions here would be the right way to go.

Ideally I would discuss RP matters with like-minded people, but my circle of friends and known people is filled with BP minded people and in my attempts of introduce some to TRP I've realized I better stop trying and just care for my reputation.

So has anyone found a RP mentor or something alike? what do you recommend?

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Title	Does anyone have a Red Pill Mentor?
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	2
Comments	27
Date	December 28, 2014 8:54 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2qn8ov/does_anyone_have_a_red_pill_mentor/
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[–]wantmeacoolusername 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

[–]red_pill_throw_away 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]wantmeacoolusername 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I see your point man, but no, it doesn't hurt your game, it improves it immensely.

I've seen many people get into this mindset, and what it results in. They suddenly become surounded with losers (bigger than they are), and these losers look at them with admiration when they pick up some drunk ugly troll at the bar.

Yes, that better dude might get more attention than you. You won't be the star. But listen, learn. And when you're without him try to apply what you learned.

Not by imitating him, but by understanding why he does what he does (and this you can ask him), and then doing it your way. And ok, you can imitate for start, just to start off, but try to become authentic as soon as possible.

It's not like you go out once with a successful guy, and then you become a success too. But over time, over multiple nights or days out, you will become better and better, without even noticing the change.

And it's not like he can, and wants to have all the women for himself. Some of them will like you, even while you're shy and he's getting all the spotlight. Some women will specifically be interested in you.

And it will all be good.

As a general theme here, I think many of you guys reading this are not even aware that MANY WOMEN already like you. Yes they do!

You just don't know to read the signals, or don't want to see them due to being to caught up in "gaming them".

[–]red_pill_throw_away 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I guess your points make sense. I think I'm going to give this a shot. Also, what you mentioned about picking up signals from women is so true. Especially in my case. I never have any idea whether a woman is interested in me or not. The only way i know to check is to go in for a kiss and see her reaction. This is really bad as it hurts my escalation rate as I'm psychologically pushing the first kiss to as late as possible. I've tried the kino approach but the results are never consistent among women. Some women respond back even when they're not interested. I can't, and I'm assuming no one can, make a formula for knowing if a female is interested with a probability greater than 70%.

What signs do you look for in women that indicate interest. Not just general stuff that applies to all women but things that apply to women of different personality traits. I can never seem to find anything related to this on the internet. Apart from your feed back, are there any good reading about deciphering IOI's and interest based on different personality types?

Thanks in advance.

[–]wantmeacoolusername 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Well going for the kiss isn't a good way of checking her interest. Because at least 95% of women who do like you won't accept that, and you'll come off as a socially unadjusted dude, and get instantly disqualified.

This in turn will reinforce your false belief that women don't like you, or that they're hard to get, or that they're all evil, or whatever...and then this will make you try even stupider things, with even worse results, and the circle goes on and on.

Now please don't see this as calling you out, not talking about you particularly here, but I see a lot of this attitude here.

Back to YOUR question. Not sure what you mean by "women with different personality traits", attraction is pretty basic, just like hunger, everyone wants to eat, only tastes differ.

Maybe we could say there are very open, regular, and shy women. But then again, it also depends on you, and how you make her feel. Some pretty loud girls might turn shy in a snap, when the right dude enters the room.

With that said, here are some common signs of attraction. If it sounds simple, well that's because it IS simple, you guys just need to start acting on it. So...signs a woman might like you:

Touching you
Greeting you very warmly with a hug and a kiss
Asking questions about you
Calling you by your name, often
Laughing at your humor, when even you know it's shit
Teasing you, especially with a sexual note to it
Implying that you have a girlfriend when she doesn't really know ("so where will you take your gf for new year")
Total shyness. This sometimes is easy to confuse with disinterest. They're similar, except disinterested woman is usually more relaxed, she just doesn't care about you. And the shy one, she cares so much, that she has a hard time expressing it.

And for those girls you haven't had any contact with:

Eye contact
Smiles
Proximity, them choosing to sit close to you, although there's enough place elsewhere
Talking a bit louder, or laughing a bit louder than they need to
Singing (ha - you didn't even know this one did you? And it sure happened to you! She was probably a clerk at the store or something. When a girl start singing, specifically when you're there, it's her subtle way to attract your attention and communicate she likes you, without risking to get rejected.

HINTS: - It's usually safe to assume attraction if you notice 2 of these signals. Just because girl talks to you doesn't mean she's attracted.

Sometimes, you'll get just 1 sign of attraction. For example, if the girl's shy. Or if she's passing you by on the street and holds an eye contact with you.
Use common sense. Waitresses are smiling and talking to everyone.
When not sure, just get your game on, and see what's the result. Similarly like here - you post a link, or write a comment, and soon enough you'll see if your carma is going up, or you're getting downvoted. Then the next time you can adjust accordingly.
Even when there's no obvious attraction, you can still get your game on if you like the girl. And you should. They don't see us the same way we see them, like "this guy's hot". Of course, if you are hot, she will see you that way. But if you're just a regular dude, she can only have some impression of you after you start talking. So chat women up.
These instructions are for noobs. There are no rules set in stone. Try to get as much FEEL for the game as you can, which comes out of PRACTICE and NO YOU CAN'T BECOME GOOD WITHOUT PRACTICE.
If you're not FUGLY, so if you're decently looking, or at least decently ugly, there ARE girls attracted to you. The best way to learn these dynamics of their subtle signals is - go out with a GOOD LOOKING female friend.

You know a pretty girl who put you in the friendzone? AWESOME. Embrace that friendship and be her friend. Go with her to the bars. Let her know you're looking for a girlfriend. Ask her for hints and advice.

She'll be the one who notices all the subtle indicators of interest that women give you and you don't see them. So you'll know which girl to approach, and along the way, you'll learn these signals and their mindset.

Looks DO matter, so look good. If you're fugly, work with what you got. Be clean. Build muscle. Have style. Have confidence, that thing's hot.

And don't despair if you don't have a pretty face, girls don't want you to be prettier than they are. Looking good as a man means different thing, most of which you can work to acquire (muscle, style, confidence).

EDIT: PS. experienced players aside - "going for the kiss" is something you do when she's already turned on. And it's good to continue to getting naked and getting all the way once you started kissing, because it's a nice transition.

At the very least proceed to make out. Because...if you just go for the kiss for the sake of kissing, she'll get enough of emotional high from that and won't need to f... you that night. Or maybe ever (again, I'm considering noobs here, so if any super player is reading this - why do you read this?)

You'll know when she wants to kiss you, it's felt in the air. Until you get a feel for that...well...here are some signs...she might get a bit silent, she might get close to you...

also, you can test by not getting rejected...come close to her...be in her face so to speak, and look her right in the eyes...if she's not backing off, there's a good signal...and then from there you can go for the kiss on the cheek....she'll hardly refuse that, and if she's still not moving away, you can make another kiss closer to her lips....

Although for me, once I start teasing them with those "almost there" kisses, she usually is the first to turn her head and go in for a real kiss. And then I back away:)

So yeah, you can be the one teasing them with the kiss game. Easily. If you look just regular, and if you wash your teeth, you can kiss-tease girls, you just didn't know yet.

And this all is from real experience so not some BS.

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[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Will do. Thinking right now of the concept. If anyone else is interested let me know.

And yes, mentors in any area of life are golden, because they are:

Your shortcut through the tons of hurdle. They learned the hard way so you don't have to. They speed up your development. While other noobs are trying to get a hold of it, you are learning from the master and going straight for the win.
Your connection. It matters what you know and it also matters who you know. One of my mentors was a DJ. What do you think, did it help me get my foot in the door of the local clubs and get first gigs? Not only he teached me the biz, but also helped me start working.

Now of course, everything in life is a trade, so when you find mentors that you respect, try to also give back to them. To pay back for their time, if not with money, than with any other kind of help or attention.

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[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still trying to think up of a concept that would work. For now you can check out my comments here, hopefully there's some valuable insight, because it's experience based.

Honestly it eats up time, but I do get fulfillment from teaching. So many cool and intelligent dudes here who just don't get how simple it is.

Find my comment below regarding new years eve, hope you'll be back on here bragging too. Let's celebrate the new year in a red-pillish way and let's all go out tomorrow and do some pickup, alright?!

Even if you'll go out alone. You're not alone, we'll be all together on the same goal, getting laid, or at least getting some play, like make out, kissing, phone number even.

It's not much but I know it would unstuck many guys, and just show them it's possible and easy. So let's start the new year playfully:)

[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Ivad3rZIM 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cool:)

Since I figure you're still in bed, recovering, online gaming is ok. Now it's not really my thing, but here are a few steps/tips which could lead to a date:

Create an awesome profile. Badoo and okcupid are sites where girls can be very responsive. Awesome profile is the one where you don't talk too much about yourself. Your photos talk. Have some photos with friends, some from the nights out, if you traveled then some touristy photos too, some with hot girls...

Basically photos from different situations which show you're a cool dude who has a busy life, friends, and things going for him, and who's liked by girls.

In textual description be playful, not too serious.

On website fiverr.com you can find many girls who will for 5 bucks make your profile more attractive. You can try that out too and see how they do.

Once you have an awesome profile, it's time to start meeting some girls.

BADOO: I'd say start here, as it seems to me girls are hotter, and there are more of them. Go to the option "Encounters". It will show you girl after girl and ask you to click YES, MAYBE or NO to answer if you want to meet her.

If she feels the same way, you can then start the chat.

Now here's where the sneaky trick comes in. Instead of wasting time to look into each profile, just keep clicking YES to EVERY girl until your reach your daily limit.

What happens here? A numbers game. From hundreds of girls you just said YES to, some will also YES you, and some of them will be online right now. So you can instantly start chatting with girls who like you.

THEN you can screen them out and see who you want to chat with or not. So you only check out profile after she confirmed interest in you.

Super efficient, you only spend time on girls interested in you. And you'll be more relaxed, as you will have multiple interested girls.

OKCUPID: This is different, and I find this site has a lot of nerdy girls, although it definitely has all types. It has matching based on similar interests.

Once you started chatting girls up, don't waste no time, get to know them a little bit, and then tease them...tell them you're in the hospital, and see if they're cool enough to visit you and bring you your favorite drink or whatever.

Only chat up girls who have multiple (3 at least) hot photos and full figure shown in photos. If she doesn't have hot photos she's either: - not hot, just had that 1 good photo once - fat - ugly

Anyway I hope some hottie will visit you and bring you a new year present:)

[–]Ivad3rZIM1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm home and handy capable..2 more weeks and I begin to put weight on my right leg..another 2 and PT..another 2 and I'm at the gym again after getting set back a fuck ton.

Online dating really isn't my thing TBH..id rather meet people in the before times, but I guess that's just personal preference.. Before my accident I was approaching women at parties/one on one classmates...I'm at a point where I've taken a step back and for the next month I need to learn Game, PUA, and more RP philosophies on life, deprogramming from the old ways...as I've lost my physique, my ability to walk, actually exercise (as opposed to doing bad 1 legged push-ups and chair dips which barely cuts it as well as crutch walking which is an upper body workout)...I've lost 20 lbs in the hospital and need to get life on track again...thoughts there?

[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds good and like you're getting back on track just fine. Meeting people live is the best thing for sure, I just thought you couldn't move so suggested online game. Otherwise, live game all the way.

I also hurt my leg recently, and was recovering nicely, but then increased my deadlift weight faster than I should, and set myself back a bit.

So be patient in your recovery. Sure, follow your plan, but listen to your body too, it usually gives you a fair warning before something gets messed up.

On the other hand, body functions on "use it or lose it" principle, so any muscles and bones which are not utilized will get weaker. So workout is important, but given your specific situation, I'd strongly suggest you do so in consultancy/under supervision of a specialist doctor.

As for the game, you obviously are comfortable with approaching, so that's cool. Not sure which part of your game you feel is lacking? Could be anything...not closing, not going for superhot girls, getting friendzoned...

Anyway, wish you a fast recovery with this awesome video of a dude who never gives up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97vR2V4vTs

Happy New Year

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[–]wantmeacoolusername 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You definitely should man. Especially looking at your username. No despair man, forget that and get a positive attitude. You can for sure hook up with some dude who's successful with women.

These dudes are usually cool and don't mind sharing their skill, because they're living in abundance.

If you're not that comfortable making new friends, maybe you should find someone like a male stripper, and openly tell him: look man, my game with women sucks, I totally don't know what to do. Can I buy you a drink/dinner and chat a game with you for a little. Or go out with you.

Ask 1, 2...or 10...if the first one is not up for it, chances are out of 10 dudes one will be happy to help you, and probably for free. You know, just enjoying a time out with someone.

And with girls it's similar, a number's game, it's only that good game improves your numbers vastly.

And one more thing, tomorrow's the New Year's Eve - won't you be out and about? Most girls would love to have someone to kiss with on midnight, and they're all look their best and be in the holiday mood - so if there's a perfect night for pickup, this is the one!

I want you and all you other guys reading this, to come back here tomorrow and brag about your new girlfriend/f-buddy. You hear? :)

And this is not just to cheer you up. This is from experience and it's real. I've had a friend who's normally looking, cool dude, but TOTALLY CLUELESS about girls. 100% CLUE-LESS.

We went out on 2 new year eves. BOTH times he found a girlfriend. ZERO game he had. All I did was push him on some girl, so he would be a jerk not to tell her "sorry" at least. And after that they just picked up a conversation...midnight comes..and now they're kissing.

Another time I approached 2 chicks, and basically threw the other one on him, so I can have some time with the first one. Worked perfect.

In new year's eve, many girls are DOWN FOR IT. You just need to look normal and say HELLO, and they'll game you. Try and see.

So tomorrow night don't be online. And remember to come here and brag. All of ya:) Seriously.

[–]thereddespair 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ive no despair in me right now really, I feel more positive than ive ever been. I wouldnt consider myself as having a problem with women right now, due to circumstance and despite me being a woman, but improvement and new ideas never hurt.

I admire the pursuit for improvement, life in general. That I would love to have some help on.

Ive never really went out with a male stripper before or really had a conversation with one. Now Im curious what that would be like. Ive had the pleasure of knowing a female stripper once but thats it.

I got plans tomorrow with someone already and I think it would be amazing.

Your friend is lucky to have such a support like you. But yes, in the holidays women are indeed. Last year was fun for me, I remember a girl sneaking in on the ladies at some random bar and I just called her a slut and spanked her ass and she was all over me the entire night, too much though now that I remember it. But anyway yes.

I doubt anyone would be here tomorrow as I assume we all have something going on, Happy New Year to you all.

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