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Does the "D.E.N.N.I.S System" represent TRP ideals? I understand that it's satire but does it marginially corespond to TRP values and practice?

trip812

May 26, 2014
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Title Does the "D.E.N.N.I.S System" represent TRP ideals? I understand that it's satire but does it marginially corespond to TRP values and practice?
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trip812

Upvotes 0
Comments 8
Date May 26, 2014 10:50 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–]Epicureanist 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

There are no "trp ideals." TRP is an acknowledgment of the differences between men and women. Both genders find different behavior attractive/unattractive, both genders place greater importance on different things, etc.

The message is amoral and is simply a description of human behavior. How people apply it is their decision. The generally given advice is to: improve your physique, improve your status (pursue your career/field seriously), and start approaching women, whilst keeping in mind that women are nothing special and that they have completely different feelings about love, relationships, attractive, etc.

[–]trip812[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've been reading TRP lit for a couple weeks now, and applying to concepts to better my life accordingly. Everything you just said I agree with, but one could make the arguement that those views are an ideal in itself.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUsherai0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those views are backed up by empirical evidence and vast amounts of experience, i.e. scientific. If I hold the belief that if I jump off a roof I'll fall to the ground it is not an "ideal" that causes this belief but a knowledge of science and experience. Likewise with TRP, the view that improving your physique will make you more attractive to women in general is no ideal. It's a fact. The view that women have a tendency to process information emotionally rather than logically isn't an ideal. It's a fact. See the difference?

Regarding the original question...yeah, the D.E.N.N.I.S. System would probably be somewhat effective if a sociopath tried it. It's nothing that I think would ever be recommended as a good course of action though.

[–]Epicureanist 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That'd be a fairly weak argument. Almost all red pillers agree on the differences between men and women. There's still a large difference in their applications of it.

Some men are trying to fix their marriage, others are simply ditching women., and some are young men trying to get some experience.

Where is the ideal?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Though on cursory inspection (having not seen this episode), demonstrating value and escalating physically are both important to successful human mating. That's commonly accepted by most men and not unique to TRP, though.

The other items on the list are sociopathic. It's kind of interesting how so many people think that this sub is full of sociopathic women-haters, despite a lack of evidence. Well, I hate to burst your misconception, but most of the people on here are actually pretty damn decent human beings. We're here because we want to optimize our success with women and life.

[–]vzhu1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The CARVER matrix is applicable to more situations and scenarios. It just happens to work for game as well.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Demonstrating value is the basis for establishing attraction, although the way he goes about it in the video is wrong. RP

Engaging physically. Obviously. That's called kino and it is the physical basis for attraction. RP

Nurturing dependence is pretty psychotic. He either has little access to women and has to manipulate them to stay, or he gets off on power. Not RP.

Neglect emotionally. Pretty psychotic. You shouldn't be her emotional tampon, at that point they are using you. The video's take on this is very demented though. Not RP.

Inspire hope. For a relationship I guess? Men are the gatekeepers of relationships. If you do this, then you are essentially doing the same thing a women does to her orbiters. I don't hardly understand this one.

separate entirely, there are times that you need to go radio silence or next that bitch, but the video at this point is less of a mature moving on and more of a emotional torture type of thing. Not RP.

The video is hilarious regardless.

EDIT: As epicureanist said, there are no "redpill ideas." Go over to askmen, they hate TRP, but spout redpill knowledge everyday. Everyone is a "redpiller" in the same sense that we all breath air. Also, the DENNIS system will work on some people, to an extent, but you would be a horrible person for actually trying anything remotely close to it.

EDIT: forgot separate entirely.

[–]trip812[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man that's the reply I've was looking for. I realize that it's psychotic, you'd have to be a sociopath. But it is hillarious. And I thought that at first his game seemed legit. And I was bored, didn't mean to spam the board or anything. I've only been lurking around for a few weeks but I'm getting a lot from it.

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