"Femininity is Feigned"

nevva_Again · 2016-07-12T22:27:27+00:00

This was a comment made on TRP originally written by /u/kryptokate. I have commented and messaged him in hopes he would make this a post on his own.

/kryptokate is not a dude, she's a chick.

But she's very self aware, and understands redpill theory both from the male and female perspective.

Judging by her intelligence and writing style, it's very easy to think she's a dude. But she's a chick, howbeit, a smart one.

2016-07-13T04:56:10+00:00

Reading anything by kryptokate is fucking fascinating. Way better than almost everything else "red pill" that I see on a day to day basis

But God help the man that falls for her charade.

2016-07-13T20:30:50+00:00

I had an interesting reply on Tinder after my usual intro, "Nice hair, Natural?"

reply: lol you should never ask a girl if any part of her is a real or fake

Me: Oh? why not

Her:Because no one needs to know but her. And if it is real she might be insulted. You're lucky I don't care that you asked about my hair haha. And if they're fake clearly she has some type of insecurities and now you've just noticed. Just for future references lol

Just re-enforeced the idea that women are mostly covert. Their fighting style is to indirect as possible. The idea that one should never ask a girl if any part of her is real or fake is fucking ridiculous. Solipsism, Plausible deniability, ASD, and so many defense mechanisms hard at work protecting the image not the Character of women.

TLDR: To women image is everything, not character. Re-inforcing OP's statement.

rp_phoenix · 2016-07-12T21:16:49+00:00

Comment is spot on, for the most past.

Yes, women do feign their femininity. I would think most women hate the process of putting on makeup, buying tons of clothing, and feeling the need to look spot on all the time.

But, they realize that this is what attracts the most high quality men. If she thinks that flaunting her ass out a little bit more is gonna draw the attention of Chad, 10 times out of 10 she'll do it. Women have also created this pressure amongst themselves. There's pressure on them to get the most high status man they can, and they'll do it by whatever means necessary. Imagine how many women would hoar themselves out for a guy like Leo DiCaprio or another alpha like that.

Feminism comes along and starts telling women that they don't need to have a nice body, and anybody who doesn't except them for who they are is "body shaming". Feminism tells guys that they should look past her flaws, and accept her for who she is, even if she rode the CC for the past decade. I think feminism is a dream for women, because they feel as if they no longer need to put in effort to look feminine (aka attractive). The ones who do maintain that feminine quality are highly sought after, as they seem to be dwindling by the day.

I think you're both spot on, but realize that while they may not like it, they know it's what attracts the most guys.

frrunkis · Wed Jul 13 4:43:36 2016 UTC

Women crave boundaries. It's like they're stuck in the terrible twos. Toddlers will whine and cry over not getting everything they want but they're overall happiness will skyrocket when you tell them no and set clear rules/boundaries. If you give a toddler everything they want they'll become constantly grumpy and never have any respect for anybody and grow up being miserable and juvenile. This applies to women also, except the rules and boundaries are set by the man without him having to say anything. She will know instinctively how you want her to act and will act that way in order to keep you around (assuming you're high value and she's attracted to you etc.) They know if they don't act right then you'll leave. They want it to be this way though. Their overall happiness will also skyrocket when these boundaries are set.

In reality, part of them LOVES acting and feeling feminine. The HATE having to force it though. This 'act' they put on will come very naturally to them when they meet a guy they're attracted to and want to secure him in an LTR. They want to have to look up to a guy who's bigger then they are. They want to feel small. They want to feel cute/pretty/childlike/innocent. Key word here is they want to feel this way. They will naturally feel this way when they're around a masculine guy that's high value and that they're attracted to. They're naturally submissive.

Lesbians are mostly miserable and never amount to anything. They never get to properly feel this way. It's a shame really.

2016-07-13T13:12:17+00:00

I remember the talk of batman vs superman.

Batman was the story of a man who built himself until he was a superhero. Superman was a superhero who hides himself to look like a man.

dr_warlock · 2016-07-13T18:33:50+00:00

sadly it shows how the subreddit has plummeted in quality when something like this, which is fucking spot on, doesn't get as many upvotes as it should. Shows how the demographic here has changed.

2016-07-13T13:30:02+00:00

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Luckyluke23 · 2016-07-13T05:35:36+00:00

the comment is great

how do i feel about this?

well... my problem with it is, MORE AND MORE women are trying to be like men. they get tattoos they have short hair, they don't act feminine at all.

my problem with this is: I'm a guy AND I'M ATTRACTED TO FEMININITY. if i wanted to have a man in my life I would be gay. I want a women. in MY eyes I just want someone feminine

NaughtyFred · 2016-07-13T00:21:08+00:00

Women who are anti-feminist are women who perceive that performing for men is the best shot they have at survival and advancing themselves. It's really as simple as that.

Not everyone thinks with their dark triad genitals. Some humans look at the bigger picture, even if they're a small minority who don't get laid as often and are therefore deemed not to have valid opinions.

TheOneTrueMagnet · 2016-07-13T01:13:32+00:00

there are plenty of women who compete in and succeed in highly competitive fields in science, the military, business, medicine, etc.

I call fucking bullshit. I have never met a single woman in the science field that had me go "Wow! I would love to work with her!" Fucking never. They do nothing but act like stupid women in the lab who throw all their work at men while taking credit for it. They then get pushed along the affirmative action elevator, and you are happy for it because at least she isn't fucking your shit up anymore.

As for women in the military? Have you ever heard a woman scream out orders? Every single person in hearing distance, man or woman, will immediately have a gut instinct to punch her in the mouth. It is a physical reaction like when you hear nails on a chalkboard. That is the nicest thing I have to say about women in the military.

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2016-07-13T01:40:37+00:00

Agree 99.8%. I have know quite a few females who automatically go to skin tight clothing, and show as much flesh as possible. This is not on "Date night" or let's go snare some D or $$ night. Younger females as in my daughter. I had two GFs who were feminine to the bone. Guard dropped, in private, they just were graceful, feline, pretty etc. ANyway, there's always exceptions to any rule. It may sound gross but I am starting to see females as Venus Fly Trap Vaginas, oozing honey, floating through time and space hunting for the best sperm. Nothing else matters. The "woman" attached to the VFTV is quite secondary and it matters little what she says or does as long as she can get Chad to squirt into her womb and BetaBob to pay for her life.

stawek · 2016-07-13T20:00:18+00:00

women are indeed deceptive and manipulative, and that is the basis of 'femininity' - acting in such a way as to get the attention and resources of men. That is inherent in the evolutionary history of our species, that men evolved to extract value from the environment, and women evolved to extract value from men. In spite of the manipulation, this separation of gender roles has actually served our species well, because it ensured survival of offspring during the extremely long development period that our large brain requires, and it aided both sexes in achieving it. Unfortunately, men have become so successful at taming their environment and developing a rich and easy society, and the underlying problem that while women have a very strong own-sex bias men do not, have meant that we now have a society that is anti-male. Obviously, any anti-male society is, by definition, a temporary phenomenon, because it is men that both build and maintain civilizations. Once men start to check out, as they are increasingly doing, the society collapses. Either that or they revolt.

On the high heels, though, I think they are an absolute work of genius. Anything designed to act as a sexual superstimulus must build on an existing difference between the sexes. For example Victorian bustles to emphasise the very rounded nates of women, or plunging necklines to emphasise the presence of breasts, or corsets to emphasis the hour-glass figure that women have rather than the V figure that men have (in the natural state).

High heels emphasise three different things at once. First, they emphasise the different gait, the rolling of the hips rather than keeping the hips straight and swaying the shoulders as men do. Second, they make the legs proportionally longer, by making part of the foot visually part of the leg. Third, they make the feet appear smaller. They do this partly because part of the foot now looks like part of the leg, but also if you look at the shape of the opening it isn't like lace-up men's shoes, that come up near the ankel, they are open down near the toes, but the part of the foot exposed is itself foot-shaped, so visually the part in the shoe is excluded from the shap of the foot. This is also why high heels that are solid and joined to the sole (like platform shoes) don't work. They make it look like the woman is club-footed. Sheer genius, hats off to the inventor.

alvlear · 2016-07-16T06:32:57+00:00

I remember this female, /u/kryptokate, she has some amount of self awareness, which seems to impress a lot of people. However, this awareness is limited, riddled with projections, false conclusions, and rationalizations. Thank you for sharing this, /u/dr_warlock, even though you have withheld your own conclusions. Many of the commenters cannot see the bullshit that this woman is spewing.

Kryptokate claims to be an INTP, and a cursory analysis of her writing fairly confirms this to be true. Therefore, her intelligence and systems comprehension is miles beyond average. Nevertheless, her understanding of human organismic psychology is wanting.

In her post on serial monogamy, she claimed to be dating only alphas, but after sometime she would be physically repulsed if they touched her. Any decent redpiller knows this is the standard female reaction to a beta. This woman does not understand the difference between an alpha and a beta. She only hooked up with extroverted, fake alpha betas, who would lose frame, and now she thinks she understands men.

Kryptokate does not understand what femininity is. Cosmeticism has nothing to do with femininity. Femininity is surrender, deference, and respect to a higher figure. It is submission, representative of the honor she feels for the one who keeps her alive in the jungle. It is instinctual. It is an organismic behavioral response. It is evoked by the masculine polarized male. The make up, the neoteny, and such are simply secondary behaviors that emanate from this state of mind.

Masculine polarity is indicated by Frame, Game, Rewards, and Punishments. As I transitioned from a beta through the maximization of my masculine polarity, all the females in my life -- family members, co-workers, strangers -- gradually became more feminine towards me. They became more careful in their behavior around me. Neotenous. They became more respectful, and concerned about taking care of my interests. I could tell this was instinctual. However, I see them bossing around all the betas, being spiteful, condescending, and irascible towards them.

Nah, to the masculine polarized male, femininity is not feigned. It is evoked, wrested from the psyche of any female in his orbit.

TrueFacets · 2016-07-13T09:31:55+00:00

So men are the creators of civilization and women are baby machines right ?

Does this now mean women are not mindless baby machines ?? I am confused...

(I am somewhat serious here, if there are very Intelligent, high achieving feminists or women in general, is that now a good or bad thing ? If they hate that women behave feminine because femininity is just to cater for men, but they would rather do/achieve things themself, are they still AWALT and are they still just babymachines ? Do they still fall into all the typical behavioral patterns of women ?)

2016-07-13T12:25:37+00:00

it is absolutely not feigned. if it was, then why are some guys born all flexible and shit? i would say that certain levels of it is feigned. like if a girl wanted to seem more feminine.

Seducibledotcom · 2016-07-13T12:41:47+00:00

But what about all the women that get piercings and tattoos that make them look like clowns? He's saying that's how they are naturally? No they do that for validation.

HandsomeCub · 2016-07-14T06:28:33+00:00

The more i think about this post, the more i think its an unfair analysis. "Men have to restrain themselves from being manly"... really!? "While women fake what they are?" Im sure women censor their urges just as much as men do, otherwise they are disgusting pigs, just as much as women are worried about being sluts... she's pitting the unconfident women against the sense of a man she'd like to date, that has it all figured out.

At first i felt sorry, but zoom out and see the larger picture of both sides, and it might annoy you for how easy it is to initially accept this post. Women get more tangible tools to enhance their beauty easily, and she is complaining about this freedom as a burden because of the norm. While men are competing to seem fun, cool, wealthy, smart, funny... etc... oh no man has ever tried to act fake on these fronts <sarcasm>. And besides, women have the freedom to do all of these things to be attractive to men in the same ways. Shes wrapped up in her own stresses of being attractive, and projecting that onto all women conveniently forgetting men's stresses too. Average women can be so stunning with their special clothes and their makeup that even the hottest men quiver. Men wearing their functional suits only goes so far. She treats her position in life as a curse, rather than the blessing it is.

One thing i agree on with her, women need to feel challenged to actually be interesting people, that have thoughts deeper than mundane worries about what clothes they are wearing that day. As with men though, it cant be a means to attracting the opposite sex, it has to genuinely be for yourself.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-07-17T20:03:19+00:00

Feminine and masculine behavior are just driven by hormones. It's equally tasking for a man to act masculine if his testosterone levels suck. Hence your stereo typical angry-skinny-fuckboi. And your angry-fat-feminist. Both lack their sexual hormones to make the behavior near effortless. That's why we constantly hammer on about lifting.

Even then, on a bad day. Acting like a man is still tasking. Women are simply lazy and less performance driven (lower libido) and also more enabled. So they slack off quicker. Wilts the man has to get back in the saddle within two days if he wants to bust a nut.

Just look at the people at the gym. The skinny guys always slack off and so do all the women. The only people who become regular are the ripped gym bros. Why? Because their libido inclines them to do so. They stay performance oriented.

Women on the other hand will work out for 1-3 months and then quit when they lock down their next LTR. AFC's just burn out within the week and make ever sporadic visits (usually emotionally driven).

In our current society women lack the proper health and lifestyle to be feminine. This all comes down to our nutrition and feminist indoctrination.

mexaboy · 2016-07-13T07:20:50+00:00

While you are right, who's complaining? If bitches are going out of their way to be more attractive to us, more power to them! Hell, my woman almost doesn't look me in the eye before she puts on makeup. Does that bother me? Hell no! I'll even mock those puffy eyes when she wakes up after me!

Gotta keep her on her toes, keep qualifying baby and I'll keep making it rain.

aherne18 · 2016-07-13T09:49:03+00:00

You can easily see the original poster was some "liberated" whore who parrots official POVs (how typical would that be?). In reality, feminity today is absent or feigned only because modern women have endless sexual histories. It's just impossible for a quasi-prostitute to be feminine or believable while doing so.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-07-12T21:17:39+00:00

That's just weird brah.

The whole western world is very unnatural and produces women's natural response to power, which is not easily obtainable in nature.

If it wasn't for globalists that run politics, media and governance we wouldn't have such a situation.

In natural circumstances only the top alpha's woman might have some power in the tribe and they're popping out babies non stop, so they're very aware of their own role and limitations.

HandsomeCub · 2016-07-14T03:56:21+00:00

Who uses feigned in normal conversation? I had to look this one up

"Femininity is Feigned"

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Title	"Femininity is Feigned"
Author	dr_warlock
Upvotes	68
Comments	58
Date	July 12, 2016 8:35 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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