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How Women Tool Men

kukul

August 7, 2013
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Title How Women Tool Men
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kukul

Upvotes 57
Comments 21
Date August 7, 2013 9:55 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–]ubercoolhipsterguy11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All of these can be treated as a shit-test. Take or have control, tell her what you're going to do (not what she wants, what will fix the problem) and deal with the situation in a legal (and ethical, according to your code of ethics) way.

She wants to be dominated and she wants your attention, and these are her strategies for getting the latter and testing the former.

With self-harm/blackmail, be aware of reckless endangerment and such laws. Remember that the state is the female's ultimate alpha male they use to manipulate. "Justice" is not in their vocabulary.

[–]Endorsed Contributorpontifx22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The Good Trade/Honeydrop: This occurs when women in groups large and small try to exploit their massive social networks of likers and castrated pikers to vote brigade, sign up or some other similar MLM like behavior. They do what she wants to do and though it may coincidentally benefit them they are doing it because they believe this is one small trade will move her closer to her equal or beneficial to them getting the poosay. This is she-selection on steroids and is typically used to isolate a particular group of betamale to indoctrinate into her wallet portfolio. Real life examples: Charities, Religions, actual MLM's.

The Curious Quirky Girl: With a practiced and feigned intelligence this relatively uncommon (but more and more common) strain of ratcheting comes from girls trying to collect men like they are pokemon. They will target whatever weird fetish or strange interest their target has and become a subject matter expert in it. Then when they meet up with you (or any dude like you) they have access beyond their SMV (1 to 3 points in extreme cases I have seen) for the time that the bliss that you experience feeling "normal" about whatever weird shit it is you do and can used to gain favor with you in a specific way. This works incredibly well with betas and especially with women in my locale (northern california). Real life overheard example: "You play minecraft, dungeons and dragons, and like to build airplanes? OH SO DO I WHAT A FUCKING COINKYDINK" begin beta.exe.rar.jpeg

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[–]AlwaysLateToThreads3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What? This is probably the worst novelty account ever...

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

  1. Self-Harm Emotional Blackmail

A girlfriend threatens to off herself. Perhaps she enlivens the scene with a dramatically and conspicuously placed half-empty bottle of pills, a few scattered on the bedsheet. She turns to you, tears falling from her eyes, begging for your love or your understanding or whatever happens to be her craving du jour. You, being the white knight in training you are, can’t resist her calculated vulnerability, and rush to her aid, promising her everything her heart desires. She cuddles, another victory notched on her id-post.

I once dated a girl (probably a 7/10) when I was a senior in highschool who denied me sex continuously throughout the beginning of our relationship (first few months), she would repeatedly say I had to "prove I was a good boyfriend" first, even though at this point in my life I was always bending over backwards for women. I remember even then I still had a backbone of some sort and I was getting fed up with putting so much in and not getting anything back from her. She sensed this.

Long story short, she orchestrated an entire event where she convinced her parents she was far too depressed to go to school for reasons of her anxiety. She stopped answering my texts and I didn't see her at school for a few days so I just figured she was sick or something. At the end of the week I get a long novelization text message from her talking about how she has had a severe emotional breakdown because "school was just too stressful and she just couldn't do it anymore and really needed me to be there for her through all of this"...

This was highschool mind you. This girl had no extra curricular commitments besides school and literally would just sit in her house on the weekends with her mom. She had no outstanding reasons for acting this way besides our relationship. On the other hand, I was taking 2 AP courses and knee deep in my senior year of wrestling season, at the time, if anyone should've been stressed out it was me

I broke up with her right then and there. And then she called me the next day telling me her parents couldn't believe I would abandon her in her "greatest time of need". At this point my bulllshit meter was off the charts and I asked her if she was sure that she was serious over being so upset about absolutely nothing, to which she replied "yes, and I can't believe you for not being here for me during all of this when I really need you. It doesn't matter I'm over you anyway"

Queue me deleting her phone number because, she's over me right? Wrong.

I asked out another girl later that day and she found out almost immediately and proceeded to bitch me out to no end. The nerve that I could just play her like that and try to get with another girl when she was my girlfriend. My 18 year old brain went into overdrive trying to understand how could she be over me and still be so angry.

Hindsight with a heavy dosing of redpill really does wonders for perspective...

Edit: As I said I had to enter the queue line at the sprint store in order to get IT support on how to delete her phone number, I was not very technically savy at the time.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, and he's talking about the first "queue", not the second one.

Regarding the story, I'm impressed. When I was in high school, I would have fallen victim to that wicked manipulation.

Immediately, I would have become her puppet. And no matter how much I grew to resent my situation, I know my misplaced guilt would never have allowed me to escape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be impressed, a year before that I had been some girls bitch until she emotionally abused me to her satisfaction and decided to move on. I let that girl basically do whatever she wanted to me.

I didn't even understand why I was breaking up with this girl at the time, I just knew something felt fishy. In retrospect it was probably instinct developed from personal experience.

Only know that I understand how the world works, years later, can I look back on it and comprehend what was going on.

[–]Kronouranos4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The only one that annoys me is #2. A lot of my friends are logic, semi red pill guys, who know women say shit, but a good chunk are also blue pill as fuck. They side with women almost automatically, and it really pisses me off. I do associate more with my other friends, and can beat most shit tests a girl gives me, but when she turns my friends on me simply because she has tits, I get angry, at her and my friends.

Not just friends, coworkers as well, or even just random guys at a club/bar.

And yeah I should give up these friends, but I have a nerdy hobby that I can't fulfill with my other friends.

Excuses, rationalizing, maybe. I don't know where I'm going with this.

On another note, does anyone have good ways to tool with women other than commitment or hitting on her friend? not so much to get with them, but just for kicks?

[–]nillotampoco3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Call them out for it, I know that's failing and breaking frame but if they're your friends they need to back you up and not some bitch. Plus it'll make them slightly more attractive to women if you just tell them it's a seduction technique to always disagree.

Also on #2 some dlesxyia kicked in and I was confused as fuck reading it over and over again as "malicious salamander" instead of slander.

[–]timdesuyo4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I had a malicious salamander that would go after the people that maliciously slander me.

[–]DranDran2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

  1. Damsel in Distress

Perhaps the most renowned of female tooling tactics, the Damsel in Distress ploy, aka the Wounded Gazelle Gambit, has lured many a man into precarious, and sometimes life-threatening, situations to ostensibly “save” a woman usually from a predicament of her own making. Or, just as often, from a manufactured predicament that serves no purpose other than to redistribute time, energy and resources from the man to the scheming woman.

Had this happen to me yesterday. Woman who has long hit the wall has for the longest of times made overtures at me. I was never into her that way, so I never reciprocated, which did not stop us from becoming good friends. Cue the drama of her life, the victimization of everything concerning her egocentric view. Me, being the beta clusterfuck I am, full of compassion and with a retarded messiah complex of wanting to save everyone in the world, spent untold hours counseling her, helping her through misinterpreted fallouts with common friends, etc.

Last night she flipped her shit at some guy in our group who had told her ex something about her behind her back, and I made an innocuous comment about the drama train pulling into town again, which was apparently reason enough to vent all her frustration and anger out on me. She went total psycho, so I ended it by saying the fact that I haven't had a single issue with anyone in three years BUT HER, is more telling about her than me. And now she is cut out, entirely, zero contact.. for somone I ahvent even fucked, or ever would want to, lol.

I really need to learn to be more of an egoistical asshole, or care less about other peoples problems, or at least save it for those truly worthy of it. TRP is hard to swallow. Does it get better? Im battling against decades of bad habits. :/

[–]timdesuyo1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think that's the worst part. Having read this, the next time it happens to you, you will see it analytically, and yet be conditioned to fall for it. Which will make you irrationally angry at her, and yet you want to do what she wants. But be strong. Fuck the bitches that do that shit.

[–]DranDran2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Its not the first time its happened. Last time it happened (with another girl), it took me a little longer to cut her loose. At least that time, it was a FWB and I was getting sex for the aggro, but even then I only could stomach a month of drama.

I was talking with a friend about it today, he hit it pretty much on the head when he said: "You need to identify if the person is either friend (somoene you hang out a lot with and truly care about past having social fun with), or someone who sucks your dick. If she is neither, dont invest in her drama. Help and counsel people who earn your time."

[–]timdesuyo0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would agree with your friend, but I would also caution you against investing in the drama of the friends that suck your dick, be they serious relationships or no. Certainly, if there's a need that a SO has, fill it. I'm not saying to be a cold-hearted asshole. But there's drama that is completely unnecessary, and you can just nip that in the bud and say, "I'm not talking about it."

[–]DranDran0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess thats the part that I find toughest to concile with. Some amount of drama is awlays to be expected, but I keep forgetting that ultimately, nobody can help anyone else. THAT is my hardest habit to break. Hell, even therapy is just a means for a patient to realize how to HELP MIMSELF, not for the therapist to help you and point out your flaws. The correct attitude may be as you say, "dont wanna talk about it" or "figure it out yourself" but that does seem very coldhearted. Dont know if I have it in me.

[–]timdesuyo1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that it's the same as anything. It's a learned behavior. Women teach you not to care.

[–]iamme2 5 points5 points5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

|Let’s You and Him Fight

AKA a bitch who needs a good slap in the face.

[–]nillotampoco0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You'd have to be dumber than a bag of bricks to fall for that. Though I can still see people of average intelligence going for it.

[–]timdesuyo2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What pissed me the fuck off is that it was in Pacific Rim. Totally unnecessary cock-fight for the lady. It was insulting.

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