I found this sub Today.

Usherai · 2013-06-29T23:26:27+00:00

How many stories of success on here would you think are real? (I have much cynicism for any truth on reddit)

The vast majority of the stories I've read are entirely plausible and match up with expected outcomes.

Do you think that you can truly ever trust a woman?

Yes. More importantly, you can always trust a woman to be a woman.

Is there a point in being a woman's friend?

Not for me, I don't think so.

Is it bad to be the stay at home dad?

Generally speaking, yes.

Could you ever see yourself in a monogamous long term relationship?

Yeah definitely. I was in one for 2 years already post red pill.

Do you think that other approaches to women leads to true happiness?

No.

Finally what made you take the red pill?

A girl who said she loved me was hooking up with other guys on the side. Found game then the rest of the red pill just sort of happens.

If you want to know anything else or get more clarification just let me know.

Jiujitsuismygf · 2013-06-30T02:10:33+00:00

I fluctuate between beta and alpha depending on my social anxiety/drunkenness and the responses in terms of female attraction are ridiculous. I can literally see a women's attraction growing/diminishing depending on my alpha/beta action.
When it comes to relationships? No. If I were a woman I wouldn't trust me though.
Yes. I have lots of female friends. However none are "best" friends
usually
Yes, but for kids really.
Ignorance can be bliss
My observations through my up and down sex life through college and my desire to make more of it.

n0c0ntr0l · 2013-06-29T23:06:25+00:00

The stories line up time and time again with things I've witnessed with my own eyes, so I'm less inclined to disbelieve them.

Yes, of course you can trust her. I trust women to follow what they feel will give them the best outcome. A lot of guys aren't all that different really either, just we feel more bound by honour.

Yes there is, why wouldn't you be friends with them.

Depends, I just wonder if the woman is the breadwinner how long she's going to be okay with that before viewing you in contempt (what often happens when a woman makes more than her man... documented)

I could do the serial monogamy dating thing like Clooney, but you are not making me sign any papers. Marriage is an outdated idea.

If you are relying on anything about women to make you happy you're going to fail. You should be striving to make sure your happyness comes from within, rather than attributing it to how women view you.

Been into pua for a while, so that combined with tons of observing of the way women act when it comes to selecting guys and how they treat them, it's kind of a no-brainer.

2013-06-29T23:36:39+00:00

How many stories of success on here would you think are real?

That's like asking if diet and exercise have a high success rate in losing weight. LOL

TRP is just the tools, it's on you to use them. Success rate when used properly is 100%.

Problem is that TRP crushes most peoples worldview and their ego. Upon realizing just how wrong they have been and how much work lies ahead, some of them don't have the heart to make the changes necessary.

I would imagine it's similar to a fat person getting on the scale and seeing 300 pounds for the first time. It's either gonna be extremely motivating or extremely discouraging depending on the heart of the individual who is finally seeing the truth of their situation.

So the question is, are you motivated or are you ready to plug back in?

hiyuh · 2013-06-29T23:02:06+00:00

How many stories of success on here would you think are real? (I have much cynicism for any truth on reddit)

There's really no way to know. I think a better measure of testing TRP theories would be to apply them and try for yourself. I certainly wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it work with my own eyes.

Do you think that you can truly ever trust a woman?

IMO, yes, although it has to be earned. To what degree you trust them is your up to you. It's not as if all women are inherently untrustworthy, you just have to be cautious on who you really trust.

Is there a point in being a woman's friend?

Heartiste sums it up nicely.

Is it bad to be the stay at home dad?

I think it's a bad idea, but some guys can definitely pull it off without losing their "alpha" qualities.

Could you ever see yourself in a monogamous long term relationship?

Yeah, maybe down the line.

Do you think that other approaches to women leads to true happiness?

What do you mean by this?

Finally what made you take the red pill?

It works. Simple as that. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here.

2013-06-30T05:32:01+00:00

(1) How many stories of success on here would you think are real? (I have much cynicism for any truth on reddit)

There used to be near 100% true stories here. Now, not so sure since the seduction douches are spilling over.

(2) Do you think that you can truly ever trust a woman?

A real red pill woman, yes.

(3) Is there a point in being a woman's friend?

No

(4) Is it bad to be the stay at home dad?

Yes. All your cards are predicated on the principle that you have the ability to provide.

(5) Could you ever see yourself in a monogamous long term relationship?

I am in one. Vigilance is key.

(6) Do you think that other approaches to women leads to true happiness?

There are other approaches? But seriously, cuckold relationships are the most honest because at least then a guy knows for sure she's fucking other guys.

(7) Finally what made you take the red pill?

I instinctively picked most of it up on my own before I heard the term red pill because I didn't have the internet to draw on when I was figuring it out.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-06-30T18:33:18+00:00

(1) I've got no idea.

(2) Yes. Once I've become super high value and she has absolutely no better options.

(3) Sure. If you can find women that reciprocate what you do. Good luck.

(4) If you work from home, no. In all other cases yes.

(5) Yes.

(6) More often than not they'll end up unhappy and divorced. But the dream comes true for some.

(7) Got tired of being just another orbiter. I wanted to be the guy women choose.

Endevour · 2013-07-01T10:16:03+00:00

1 A fair amount.
2 No
3 No
4 Yes
5 Yes
6 Absolutely not
7 Circumstance

TheBrownChrisBrown · 2013-06-29T23:06:45+00:00

Dating life up to my early 20's was shit. I grew up as a beta or "man-pussy" as I like to call 'em. Over time I figured out "the red pill" (or at least most of it) on my own and got into my first FWB but after a couple months I went back to my old ways. The FWB didn't last long after that and I've been working on getting back into shape since then. Found reddit and TRP not too long ago since then.

TRP is the truth and its simple; women are children and should be treated as such ;) .

2013-06-29T23:21:06+00:00

I don't know. Some are probably kind of true, a lot probably are not.
It depends to which degree that trust goes. Blind trust is never a good idea, whether in a man or in a woman.
If you're not attracted to her, yes.
Bad as in unethical? Of course not!
Maybe. I quite enjoy an open relationship at the moment. If kids are involved, probably.
Which approaches? I'm sure there are.
The theory (or at least a less exaggerated version) fits the data I see in real life.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-06-30T05:47:56+00:00

2: Trusting someone is the same thing as saying they are predictable. So, yes.

3: The dudes around here aren't big on networking off a girl. I've had some great FWB type relationships. Walking into a place with a girl makes you automatically vouched for by the female population.

4: Being a stay at home dad is marginal. It likely means that you're the bitch in the relationship and the woman is going to lose respect for you. They can't help it. It's like Patrice used to say. You have to be cooler than her. How can she show you off to her friends if you're a pathetic little bitch?

5: Honestly right now, no. The marriage laws are a ridiculous holocaust against men. For the last 1.5 years, I've been inseminating a lesbian friend of mine. She's great, long term partner in crime. But that's as far as I'd go in the contemporary climate.

6: Do not rely on a woman for your happiness. If she ever even gets the slightest hint that she has that power over you, it's over.

7: Hahaha, LOOOOOONG story.

noblepaladin · 2013-06-30T07:48:57+00:00

(1) Don't know and don't really care. Any story-telling is likely biased towards exaggeration and selective truth.

(2) Yes, as much as you can trust any person. Problem is most guys think of girls as angels when they are really just people. They wouldn't go "all in" (emotionally, financially, etc) on some of their male friends, yet they would go "all in" on some pretty girl they don't know that well yet. Why is that?

(3) Yes. Friendship can be thought of as a series economic transactions. Your friends help you with stuff, provide you with entertainment, etc. You do the same in return. After a series of successful mutually beneficial transactions, you tend to be more likely to give your friends a bigger "credit line" because you trust them. You would do bigger favors for them, etc, because he has a history of being true to his word. Note that this is a very long, multi-year process. Your best friend didn't become your best friend overnight. The problem that blue pillers get into is that they effectively give a pretty girl a huge "credit line" (i.e. he goes way out of his way to help her, he buys her gifts and dinners, etc) when she doesn't deserve it. He is the loser in the transaction if she defaults by not returning the same amount of value when the guy needs it (she probably will, she logically prioritizes her other long-time best friends over him). You don't lend money to strangers and you don't lend more than you can lose. The same is true for your time and effort in maintaining friendships. It's very obvious when a guy deals with his male friends, but he breaks the simple rules with female friends. If you think about it as two people making trades (which is what friendships actually are) then it can work out. Typically, it is easier to deal with the same sex though.

(4) If you are rich and have passive investments to fund your lifestyle, then it's great. Otherwise it is safer to have a career and an updated resume if the breadwinner leaves. It is also a big risk for women to be stay-at-home moms. The law tends to favor women in terms of alimony, child care, etc, so that is a factor to keep in mind.

(5) Yes.

(6) What do you mean by other? There is no "red pill" approach. It is not a playbook or a method. Each relationship is different. The main idea of the red pill is to avoid the common cognitive biases regarding sex and judging the situation based on the truth. The best course of action is actually being fair and logical. Betas call certain alphas "assholes" for not worshiping the girl as a goddess. She is a person, not a goddess, treat her like a person. That is the red pill in the simplest form.

(7) I was born a minority. That means at a very young age, I realize that a lot of the stuff people say are completely delusional. People will say "everybody is equal" and then do something so blatantly racist and rationalize/hamster it away as if he/she has impeccable moral character. People here tend to apply the "red pill" only to sexual relationships, but it should really be about life. It happens everywhere. Become aware of the common cognitive biases in people, acknowledge that you are a person and vulnerable to the same cognitive biases (helps to have reality checks every once in a while), and then you will have far more success in life.

troubadour1492 · 2013-06-30T11:59:53+00:00

Is it bad to be the stay at home dad?

Not if you want to be the woman in your relationship. My masculinity was so messed up that I honestly could have gone either way. I even encouraged my wife to fuck me with a strap-on once. Boy, that's my proudest moment right there. Nothing says "emasculated whipped pussy" like having your fat dumpy wife fuck you with a big purple fake dick.

Could you ever see yourself in a monogamous long term relationship?

I guess it's a remote possibility, but it doesn't seem likely. I've actually been monogamous for the past 18 years, and this whole transformation I'm putting myself through, at some pain, is all about cutting myself loose from the assorted things that are preventing me from cheating on my wife.

It's not so much the act of having sex with somebody else, it's being someone who has that option. Not having that option gives her entirely too much power, and I used to let my wife totally run my life. I have a lot more power now, just because my wife believes in my options, but for me the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I haven't succeeded in seducing anyone yet. I have more work to do, therefore my options are mostly imagined at this point.

Of COURSE I'm going to go through with it when I finally break through the last barrier. I didn't go through all this shit to stay faithful to some fat woman who doesn't take care of herself, did I? I'm not going to throw myself on my own sword and destroy myself financially in a divorce either.

Do you think that other approaches to women leads to true happiness? Edit: do you think beta males have a real chance at happiness?

Yes. Marry foreign. One of my best friends got so fed up with American women he married an 18 year old virgin from the Philippines. It's definitely alpha fucks beta bucks, but he spent under $10,000 getting her over here, and he's one happy son of a bitch. I see their arrangement for what it really is, but would I take the blue pill to get my dick sucked every night by a a pretty 18 year old?

Honestly, no, I wouldn't. I would see it as a serious failure and giving up on myself, but that's me. My buddy is happy as a pig in shit, and who am I to tell him how to be happy?

Finally what made you take the red pill?

A pretty young whore propositioned me. Getting that close to a pretty horny woman made me realize I ought to do what I do any other time there's something I want and don't know how to get. I read books. So I bought a book, and here I am.

I haven't gotten far enough to have sex with anyone yet, but I'm more than twice the man I used to be. I'm more and more comfortable in my own skin, unapologetic, shameless, and give less and less of a shit what anybody thinks of me with each passing day.

chiffonade- · 2013-06-30T19:46:58+00:00

Do you think that other approaches to women leads to true happiness

women have nothing at all to do with happiness. get this fucking bullshit out of your mind man.

2013-07-01T04:58:48+00:00

(1) Enough to matter. Getting laid isn't hard if you aren't hideously unattractive.

(2) Yes.

(3) Yes.

(4) No.

(5) Yes.

(6) Do you think beta males have a real chance at happiness? No.

(7) Nothing "made me take the pill". I have been thinking along these lines for the past 5 years or so and I happen to come across this sub. What changed my way of thinking was bunch of failed relationships where I was the one at fault. It's rather a lot to write out but if you are interested I can go in depth.

r_rships_account · 2013-06-30T08:01:49+00:00

Maybe 50%.
No.
Only if she's a Lesbian.
No.
Yes, with a man.
No.
My shrink.

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