LTR situation

Vesperous · 2017-04-24T23:30:19+00:00

I'll give you some advice man. I had the worst of the worst before I swallowed the pill, I dated a girl that I let cheat on me three times. She was hot, but one day I said enough is enough, I cheated on her three times in ONE night, now given I had already learned game before this and I had just temporarily shut off the redpill activity in my brain until the cheating, I still did it. And when she came crying back to me, I gave no shits what she had to say and I left her and I am now the happiest I have ever been. You may wonder why I am telling you this but, It seems you sir are where I was before she started cheating. I gamed her for six months in an ltr and she literally did whatever I said, anal, blowjobs then cooked for me, all the good shit. And then she turned into a whore when I opened up to her and started thinking she was different. (It was my fault this happened so I do not blame her). DO NOT LET THIS BE YOU. Do not give in, honestly it was probably a shit test she gave you when she broke down. But, you are past that now. Slowly shift back into the role you had before, maintain frame as the leader of the relationship. Text her less, call her less. She seems to really like you man, if she hits you with the infamous "I'm leaving you because you treat me like shit", you know for a fact she's coming back to you. Especially after two years. When she comes back to you, things will be even better then they once were. In short, do not let it get to you, get back to when things were great.

MattyAnon · 2017-04-25T00:54:24+00:00

I may have overdone it and messed things up by being too closed off emotionally.

Doubt it.

Although the best plan is emotional teasing. Opening up one day (NOT BEING WEAK).... then distant for a week.

About a month ago, she broke down and told me that she couldn't continue with the way things were, basically wanting to break up

Shit test. She didn't dump you, she tried to change the deal. Note the difference.

. This is were I pulled a pretty beta move. Instead of backing off and giving space, instinct took over and I basically begged her to give things a second chance and that I had a new outlook

Shit test failed, HELLO BETA!

We're still together but now it feels like i'm the one doing the chasing.

Shit test failed, beta traits shown, female disinterest.

Not sure how i'm going to proceed from here. I really don't want to next unless there are no other options. Any advice is welcomeI'm starting to think that maybe I never really swallowed the pill after all, merely a placebo?

Here's what really happened.

Girl is less attracted due to being together 2-3 years. Familiarity plus accumulated failed shit tests plus monogamy slowly reduces her attraction. Feels like she isn't getting as good a deal as she was, because you are less attractive to her. Tries to compensate for the less-good-deal by demanding more from you (resources, commitment, effort) to compensate for her being less attracted to you. Because you are attracted to her, and her being less attracted to you, she feels secure in doing this. You agreed that you want her more than she wants you. You increased your efforts. You showed weakness fear and scarcity. She timed is perfectly - they always do. Her attraction for you dropped, your commitment to her increased. She played it perfectly.

What to do?

Look, relationships have a lifetime. This one might have run out of steam. Accept it and get some more options for yourself. A little dread will spark things up for a bit, but this relationship is on a downward nosedive to misery for you.

KCMOVIEBUFF · 2017-04-25T03:45:40+00:00

Advice? I'm a level 3 MGTOW - fck LTRs. I'm 60, almost got married twice, was cheated on by both fiancees and simply gave up after I reached the ripe old age of 46 - and I've never been happier.

If women are THIS fucked up that we have to have a set of rules to game them and a frame to maintain at all times less they fuck us over then WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF BEING WITH ONE IN AN LTR????

That's fucking way too stressful. Fuck that. Before I went level 3 (no women at all) I just had short-term RLs or one night stands. And even those became exhausting, since I knew I never wanted to end up with any of them long term. The drama was simply too much for me, not to mention the petty childishness of them.

I don't hate them, I simply don't care any longer. I extend the same courtesies to them as a man, nothing else, and I simply avoid talking with them other than in a polite and distant manner.

I was born a generation too late, when feminism was beginning to raise it's ugly head, and I'm at peace with it. I have been retired since I was 46 and I never have to work another day in my life and it's spent doing what I want to do without restriction.

I look forward to dying alone, as we all do anyway, but this way I die knowing some bitch isn't getting my estate.

SasquatchMcKraken · 2017-04-25T01:44:02+00:00

Go listen to what Patrice O'Neal said about how the bitch shark will occasionally tire of being the bitch shark, and leave the male shark to go play with/date her food so that she can feel powerful. That's immediately what comes to mind here.

It sounds like you got played, man. She did the emotional equivalent of rearing her fist back (threatening to leave) and you flinched. Now she's in the driver's seat. That was probably the millionth time she tested your stoic veneer, but it only takes one failed test. I'd say cut your losses. It was a good two year run, no sense letting her even the score by bitching you up for another two years and/or dumping you on her terms. Snatch your ball up and go home.

diomedes777 · 2017-04-25T03:09:07+00:00

In my most recent LTR, I was completely emotionally closed off and treated my GF like a last resort plate. Cheated on her on a weekly basis from day 1, ignored her constantly, blew her off all the time. She lost her virginity to me and I was her first bf, she was obsessed with me until it all became too much and it got to the point where I wasn't even fucking her properly because I'd had sex earlier that day or just wasn't EVER horny around her anymore.

In my case she dumped me and she's not coming back. I agreed with her decision and wished her well. I am certain I'll never hear from her again.

That, in my opinion, is "overdoing" RP. You're in a position to salvage things if you so desire. If I were you I would pre-emptively dump her to reset the dynamic, because the current dynamic is only going to lead to her cheating/dumping you very soon. I would get Machiavellian on her ass and dump her citing that "you feel neglected" and just walk away and wait for her to come to you.

Sadly these games are necessary and I can't see any other options, other than the obvious "just end it because it's already done".

askmrcia · 2017-04-25T13:48:02+00:00

The worse thing you can do after these situations is blame yourself. You have no idea if you "over" did it or not. Once a relationship ends, its easy to second guess yourself and put all these thoughts in your head that you should have done "this" instead of "that."

We're still together but now it feels like i'm the one doing the chasing. Not sure how i'm going to proceed from here. I really don't want to next unless there are no other options.

Based on what you said here, this is a very dangerous game. Are you guys really still together or is that just in your head because you really don't want to lose her? You've been with her for two years so I get what you are going through, but it looks like the writing is on the wall. It looks like she already checked out despite not saying it.

I really don't want to next unless there are no other options.

Oh don't worry, you don't have to next anything. She will make you next her. The way things are looking I can see her starting fights with you for no reason, the sex becoming worse because she's too tired (and then she blames you for the bad sex), ect...

About a month ago, she broke down and told me that she couldn't continue with the way things were, basically wanting to break up.

Yea if this happened out of no where, you know something is up. I'm not going to say your relationship is over because I don't want to wish that upon any guy, but if I were you I'd start mentally checking out yourself and start focusing on other women and other activities. It will ease the pain if this ends.

Good luck sir.

untonyto · 2017-04-25T11:57:38+00:00

Stop chasing if you don't want to. If you feel painted into a corner, you should let her leave. Accept that she may never return. Losing her is the cost of making your actions and your thoughts congruent. It's not easy or funny but its what a man gotta do. The automaton inside you that runs emotional subconscious blue pill scripts will defy you at every turn until it shuts up. By the time it shuts up though enough time will have passed that she won't be a problem any more. And then you will survey the smoking carnage with clarity and a sense of ownership: THIS IS MY WRECK.

1v1crown · 2017-04-25T19:01:08+00:00

I dont mean to hijack the thread but I'm in the exact opposite situation. Girl I was with for 2 years I decided I was tired of her and broke up with her. It was mostly for her starting pointless arguments. But she cried a lot and said she loved me and that she would never start and argument again and accepted responsibility that she was in fact the wrong one. She said if it happens again she will not ask me to stay again, only that I give her one last chance, so I did.

What do you guys think I should do? Should I just play it out and see what happens or stick to the breakup?

Vesperous · 2017-04-25T02:54:01+00:00

Another note, I've been reading the other comments on here because I want to help you as I see a vast similarity between this and where my relationship was when it went south-they bring up some good points but all is not truly lost. Yes, you failed a shit test, yes you probably lost some attraction, but the other members seem to be treating this as more of a girl you haven't been in a relationship for two years. You most likely left an impact on her in those two years. I agree, women can be ruthless, they can be cheaters and liars and manipulators, but from what you've told us, she likes you so you most likely left a huge impact on her life from your general alpha attitude. So, simply get back to where you were! It's nearly impossible for you to not do that if you just try. I wouldn't recommend you having to next her if you don't want to because you didn't truly fuck anything up. Just work out more, work on making more money and basically being a better man and give her less contact, I guarantee you she will notice and from the less contact, things can even begin to feel new again. Let us know how it goes, we all wish you the best of luck although you don't need it, you have redpill knowledge on your side.

[deleted] · 2017-04-25T20:43:04+00:00

Well it's done and no time for regrets. Stick with her or break it off if you don't feel like staying for her. It was a pretty beta move but it's a 2 years relationship so it's okay. Mistakes are done and are common. How we handle our mistakes and proceed it's what's truly tests our character and frame.

Conceited-Monkey · 2017-04-24T23:03:36+00:00

You have not swallowed the pill. LTRs are imaginary relationships.

Title	LTR situation
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Date	April 24, 2017 10:00 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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