Molyneux

Lt_Muffintoes · 2014-10-09T08:53:01+00:00

People get buttblasted with moly, because they have never used their brains before. I have never seen someone successfully ie logically rebutt one of his arguments.

The difference between his view on women and ours, is that he gives women the same agency as men, holding them responsible for their actions, while we see them as children or dogs, beholden to their nature.

I think the former is how society should view them, with equal prison time and custody laws, while for successful personal relations, the latter serves men far better.

He does actually understand AFBB and refers to it occasionally.

Pornography_saves_li · 2014-10-09T04:58:37+00:00

He seems to understand women just fine. You don't seem to understand his statement. Of course women like what they like. Men have base desires too. Letting those base desires run rampant is bad, though, and reigning them in produces a little thing called 'civilization'.

Women must discipline other women, as men do men, to allow the trust to build again if we are to have a society in future. They won't, of course. But its not a fault of Stefan's vision, but your limited understanding of it.

2014-10-09T04:20:15+00:00

You have to do better than that.

This betrays that he doesn't understand the nature of women.

He actually does understands the nature of women, and he also understands the nature of men. That's why his whole thing is about peaceful parenting.

Assholes do not make good fathers. Women who fuck assholes do not make good mothers. Bad parents are abusive and neglectful towards their children. Children who grow up with abuse/neglected parents are more likely to be devoid of moral responsibility. The human species will end if we don't change that cycle.

That's his argument. Most children are neglected and are raised by narcissists - this is the default set of humanity - as sure as women fuck assholes. He believes this is the reason why western societies praise war, praise governments, praise immorality and turn men into bluepill white-nights. And the more time I spend on theredpill and looking at the world rationally, the more his argument makes sense.

Prattler26 · 2014-10-09T02:34:29+00:00

women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race

This is absolutely true though.

Many RP posters talk about the collapse of society and women fucking assholes is a prerequisite for that to happen. Society could not collapse if women only fucked good guys. Because then all men would become good!

Women want to fuck assholes, but they don't have to fuck them. Women are human beings with agency.

SgtTRP · 2014-10-09T02:49:27+00:00

While I don't suggest Stef as a role model to younger brothers, I suggest everyone to learn about his ideas.

He says that "women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race". This betrays that he doesn't understand the nature of women.

No, he understands the nature of women well enough. This shows that you can't tell causes from effects. Asshoolery is a perk of alpha. Alpha can afford to be an asshole. But being an asshole doesn't necessarily make you an alpha.

Women want to fuck assholes who are alpha. It's not because they are assholes, it's because they are alpha.

Do they occasionally mistake just an asshole as an alpha? Fuck, no. They frequently do that. Especially in societies where there are not many real alpha's. Is that a bad thing? Yes. It's equally bad as raising boys to become beta orbiters.

DougieTheCaker · 2014-10-09T14:26:41+00:00

Molyneux is a philosopher and therefore deals with universals principals. He applies the same standard of ethics to woman and men of course. RP philosophy suggest to do otherwise, and like Lr_muffintoes said, within the context of male-female interactions, this(RP) is effective.

SubtleObserver · 2014-10-10T16:32:02+00:00

I think Molyneux's videos on women are really good and worth listening too, however there is something about the guy that rubs me the wrong way. It has nothing to do with his views on women, it might just be his personality. It is hard to put words on it to pin that feeling down, but there is something about that guy that does not sit well with me at all. That is why I stopped listening to him.

Does anybody here relate to this?

icallmyselfmonster · 2014-10-09T12:29:47+00:00

His mother was abusive towards him and a lot of his podcasts are where listeners phone in for support. He is being criticized at the moment by thunderf00t over a video posted. But it's just a difference between public opinion and his target audience.

I like thunderf00t and him quite a lot but for different reasons.

23490865243879526487 · 2014-10-09T08:31:13+00:00

Ignore his libertarian bullshit, but his advice on parenting seems pretty solid.

Title	Molyneux
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Upvotes	9
Comments	36
Date	October 9, 2014 1:24 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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