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One of the little known facts of the world is that 50% of college-educated women drop out of the full-time workforce by 10 years after graduation (they move to part-time or exit work). That means there are always a deficit of FTE women. As such, companies need to consistently hire new women to keep the numbers of FTE women up out of "descrimination lawsuit range". That's why hiring discrimination favors women.
/r/MensRights11/06/26 11:08 PM
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LWMRAs will eventually face the problem that government is the tool women use to take advantage of men. And then they will have to decide which is more important to them: being left wing or being an MRA. I am yet to find one that chose MRA as the higher priority.
/r/MensRights09/06/26 09:55 PM
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Not enough men sign up for their traditional duty to protect the border so we force men to do so: perfectly accepted. We shame the men who resist. Not enough women sign up for their traditional duty to birth the next generation so we force women to do so: Dystopian Horror. Handmaid's Tale is used as an example of evil. So if women don't owe society any service, why do we let them vote? Rights without responsibilities are a moral hazard.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:47 PM
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The only part about this that surprises me: 22 men competed for a single mom of 3 kids?
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:10 PM
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Because there's a rule in the collective mind that men do things while women have things happen to them. Of course, the other side of this rule, that men earn promotions by doing things and advance faster, is somehow considered wrongthink.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 02:15 PM
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I typoed away from 15% to pick from.
/r/MensRights03/01/26 04:00 AM
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Whatever reason they can find to make sure the 56% demographic of suffrage is not upset with them.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 06:44 PM
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The richest men with access to the best lawyers get their prenups thrown out.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 04:55 PM
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"Dad, 75% of women are overweight. 10% are online prostitutes on Only Fans. That leaves me 10% of women to pick from. It takes time."
/r/MensRights31/12/25 04:55 PM
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SCotUS decision in 1918 tied the right to direct government (suffrage) with the responsibility to protect government in times of need (conscription). Conveniently forgotten 2 years later when the 19th was ratified.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 04:05 AM
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Discourse: Women control a majority of suffrage and we'd like to get elected. How can we pander to them even harder?
/r/MensRights14/12/25 04:59 AM
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The core logic of your post is: a man wanting to get married can’t because government provides more. Oh, this is a misunderstanding. The core logic of my post is that women steal from men via government.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 03:09 PM
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Here is the breakdown. Pay close attention to graphs 16 and 17. The average women is tax negative her entire life. Men pay 75% of taxes while women receive 80% of welfare. In the USA, that'a a $2T/yr transfer of wealth. All of this to court women's 56% control of suffrage. Is it any surprise that government went from 2% of GDP (1776-1920) to 40% of GDP? That is women taking from men via government.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 02:01 PM
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Because those benefits are tax-free while his wages are not. Also, because he also needs to support himself as well as her.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:51 PM
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It would be interesting to know what that looks like as an average wage (and what it affords) in the US. Because here in Australia the maximum amount one can get from the government with 2 kids and rental assistance and full time care is just under $1000 a week. But we also have government funded health care, dental for children and medications. However, i dont think anyone here is suggesting that people on these benefits are living outrageously https://igotstandardsbro.com/results?minAge=20&max…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:49 PM
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Can you explain to me how you arrive at the man's income then, assuming that we're talking about a single mother and not a single father. This info is about single mothers, and so combining incomes won't be applicable as there will be different laws present. That's simple: his income counts against her benefits if they're married. Which means that unless he's making $85k or more, he's a financial detriment to her. But if you earn 60k yourself, then that means you have an additional 60k to spend …
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:45 PM
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They already do depend on men for resources. It's just that instead of earning it from men individually by providing value to that man, they instead extract value from men via government while providing nothing in return. Government runs on men's backs. Women only pay 25% of the taxes.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 02:53 AM
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1st Wave feminism wanted men's rights but rejected men's responsibilities. 2nd Wave feminism strove to reduce women's duties to society. 3rd Wave feminism strives to increase men's responsibility to women. It always was a supremacy movement. It never was about equality.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 02:52 PM
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Basically: you can't use a woman's sexual history against her. The idea behind the law is to prevent "tarnishing the name of the accuser". The only difference between rape and sex is consent. So the very basis of a rape trial is "did she consent?" Usually, that is done on the basis of "no woman would consent to that". There has been more than one case where the woman did have a history of consenting to that and that history was not allowed during the case and the guy was found guilty. Upon appea…
/r/MensRights04/11/25 02:27 PM
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There have only been 3 scientific studies methodologically designed to determine rates of reporting false allegations of rape. Kanin: 41% Air Force Study: 60% Kanin: 50% The limitations of the 3 is that all were done on college campuses, where many assume the rates of false allegations would be higher than the general public. Every other "study" you see is a consolidation of police statistics. That's not not a study, there is no methodology, it's just reporting on what what has happened w/o any …
/r/MensRights03/11/25 02:26 PM
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There are only 2 types of feminists: Those who hate men. Those who say "not all feminists" when you point at #1, but do nothing to combat #1. Those who attempted to combat #1 and no longer consider themselves feminists because of #2.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 04:09 AM
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When a man violates a woman's trust, we punish the man. When a woman violates a man's trust, we call him a fool. I wish I knew why. I really don't.
/r/MensRights02/11/25 08:00 PM
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We're already on the 2nd if not 3rd generation. It's going to end in one of 2 ways: Men will figure this out, revolt, end the 19th, take back culture, and strip women of almost all rights. Men will give up, be wiped out by 3rd world invaders, and women will be raped by the new conquerors. Or, in a pipe dream, with the internet allowing world-wide communication and all of western civ hitting this at the same time: women will realize they don't want to be raped / give up all rights, so they'll sur…
/r/MensRights02/11/25 07:57 PM
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Conservativism believes in gender roles for men and women both. Civilization won't exist with men filling their gender roles, so freeing men is not an option. You're going to have to fill that role no matter what. The only question is if you want traditional women being a carrot or if you'd prefer nothing in return.
/r/MensRights01/11/25 03:52 AM
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We need SOCIALISM in civilization. The root of society is successful men standing on the shoulders of previous generations of men, all in the quest for women and reproduction, with societal advancement riding the coattails. Cannot gender-swap that. Men don't seek women's achievements nor women seek men's fertility. Socialism will kill our society. Any deviation from the masculine lead is a pandora's box that is exceptionally hard to close. That will be paid by your civilization's rate of advance…
/r/MensRights31/10/25 06:06 PM
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Those fundamental values aren’t inherently harmful. They work great in the family. They do not work on a civilizational scale. We don’t want a feminized society, nor do we want a masculinized one. Every civilization was masculine during it's ascendancy and feminized during it's decline. I'm not kidding. This is a lesson repeatedly demonstrated and repeatedly ignored. https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture Men deal with the outside world, that's why they're capit…
/r/MensRights31/10/25 04:12 PM
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[T]here are fundamental values which make culture work: equity, competition, judgement, taking what works, discarding what doesn't. What we've done as a society is allow women too much influence over our culture and we are replacing those values with female base values: equality, non-competition (everything has value), non-judgement, taking from what works, helping what failed. It's like taking a stack of blocks and replacing the lowest ones with misshapen ones and then looking at the top, see i…
/r/MensRights31/10/25 03:30 PM
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The only reason this is getting any traction is because a woman wrote it. How do I know that? Because a man wrote the book on this almost 100 years ago: https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture
/r/MensRights31/10/25 03:28 PM
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Sorry pal, but you're just wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/comments/1kjhvr9/how_different_racial_groups_rate_each_other_in/
/r/MensRights31/10/25 03:25 PM
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Men inherently understand that generalizations have exceptions so that men can have meaningful conversations without niggling over every edge case like women do.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 08:26 PM
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Exceptions do not make the rule.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 05:11 PM
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And whites with non-whites. Just like whites are the only racial group w/o in-group bias, men are the only gender w/o in-group bias. There was a guy at my job years ago who got fired because he had a swimsuit calendar. Well, lesson learned. But the woman who reported him had a calendar of guys doing yoga in speedos. Why didn't she get fired? Because women at the company would have raised a stink; something fellow men failed to do.
/r/MensRights30/10/25 01:46 PM
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Equality between men and women is impossible and attempting to achieve it harms men and society. That's what I know.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 12:18 PM
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Single motherhood by choice is tantamount to child abuse: In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997 72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teen pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers…
/r/MensRights22/10/25 06:12 PM
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14 years ago now... https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/notkd/comment/c3b3jgn/?context=3 I hope that if people do become unhappy with the status quo and see the underlying causes of the problems in time The first is easy. The second is what they will never see. Why? Because the problem isn't even feminists, the problem is that we have allowed women too much influence over our culture. How many people are willing to see that, even here on an MRA board? Lest you doubt me, there are fundam…
/r/MensRights22/10/25 05:57 PM
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"Sex and Culture" by J.D. Unwin, 1932. We knew this almost a century ago. Women have a very vital role in civilization: motivating men to greatness (so that society can ride on their backs). When women fail in this task, society declines and eventually collapses. That's why we're living thru late-stage feminism.
/r/MensRights19/10/25 03:47 PM
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Yes, women leave the full time workforce for children. And then there's not as many women at the companies, leading to a strong preference to hire entry-level women over men in thr name of demographic representation. And that's one of thr big reasons men are having a hard time getting hired out of college.
/r/MensRights10/10/25 01:28 AM
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There were no gender roles in pre-agricultural societies. You're wrong, but the debate on if you are wrong doesn't even matter: If you'd like to return to a pre-agriculture society, your point has merit. The rest of us would like to stay in this thing called "Civilization"
/r/MensRights01/10/25 06:07 PM
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You've mentioned you don't like what they say, but you haven't mentioned how they are wrong. In short, you're tone policing to control what is allowed to be discussed.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 06:04 PM
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This is not the first time in history we've had feminism. Thankfully, feminism is a self-corrrecting social problem. Unfortunately it self-corrects by destroying the society it has infested. The same thing repeats: women no longer motivate men, men stop producing excess in order to attract women, society learns it cannot motivate men by sticks alone, and we all figure out just how much society runs on men's backs.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 02:02 AM
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The vast majority of women have a rape fantasy (but done to her by a man she desires). The man is attracted to her so much that he can't control himself to wait for her consent. That she was forced allows her to enjoy the sex w/o worrying about social consequences (she gave in too easy / she's a slut / etc.)
/r/MensRights29/09/25 01:30 PM
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If women rejects their gender roles, so should men. Men eventually will. And that is what will collapse our society.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 01:23 PM
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What problems do you think are not taken seriously? How do you define "women hating"?
/r/MensRights26/09/25 11:48 PM
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Even beyond that, women use suffrage to steal $2T/yr from men via government at the federal level alone. Women's suffrage inevitably leads to turning men into 2nd class citzens.
/r/MensRights26/09/25 11:47 PM
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Because you can't free men from gender roles without collapsing civilization, and you can't force women back into gender roles while they represent the majority of suffrage in every first world nation. The MRM has no political solution,.
/r/MensRights26/09/25 05:54 AM
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There is an additional, rarely discussed, problem with equal representation: Women and men behave differently. 50% of college-educated women will drop out of the full-time workforce by 10 years after graduation. Because of that, there will always be more demand for entry-level women than there are for entry-level men, even when the societal ROI on men entering fields is greater. Just another way "equality' destroys society.
/r/MensRights24/09/25 06:34 PM
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There is no such thing as a consistent marxist opinion, neither on time nor space. I've found one: There are no bad actions, only bad targets. That is their mentality.
/r/MensRights24/09/25 06:05 PM
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You describe yourself so well. You lost the debate 5 years ago and still spout the same bullshit as if our conversation never happened. You still think agency has nothing to do with responsibility. Your problem is that your priori are false. You can't accept that. Sorry pal, but tabula rasa is bunk.
/r/MensRights24/09/25 02:46 PM
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Biology places women as less individually disposable than men. Progressivism pretends that fact doesn't exist, seeks "equality", and creates the very system of women above men that you are complaining about. Traditionalism places society above both men and women, creating a system that rewards men for the shit work they do which is necessary to keep civilization going. So quite the opposite of what you think I'm admitting.
/r/MensRights23/09/25 11:31 PM
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This attack on men wanting to be men and stay traditional has got to be some underhanded attack on our sub, it’s been a month of this and it’s becoming relentless, in the comments the sheer abundance of posts. It's because the anti-male hate of progressivism is becoming harder and harder to hide, so there is a effort to turn men/MRAs away from traditionalism. Traditionalism is the only real path for MRAs. Equality is not and will never be the answer. In fact, it is attempting to seek equality th…
/r/MensRights23/09/25 09:41 PM
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Traditional masculinity is characterised by male disposability and subordination to women. Male disposability is a function of mammalian biology. Might makes right, Numbers make might, Women make numbers. That's why women have inherent value while men do not. Sorry, that's just reality. Traditionalists want men AND women to be subordinate to society. It's only because progressivism and multi-culturalism have destroyed the concept of a actual culture that men are left with nothing to serve but wo…
/r/MensRights23/09/25 09:36 PM
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I guess you still haven't learned what the term "agency" is actually used to describe Agency: the ability to take and be responsible for actions. Personally, I don't debate. I seek understanding. You obviously don't understand anything if you think feminism and traditionalism are the same.
/r/MensRights23/09/25 09:17 PM
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Nah, it is just that feminism is traditionalism under new clothes. Feminism, which rejects gender roles for women, is the same as traditionalism, which has gender roles for both? Simply put, no. If you want to lose the same debate you lost 5 years ago, feel free to reply.
/r/MensRights23/09/25 02:40 PM
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Why have men moved right? Women use government to steal from men to the tune of $2T/yr (not even including CS / Alimony). The left wants to increase government spending and allocate that money to anything other than men. The right wants to reduce government spending (and therefore reduce women's theft from men). Self-perseveration is why men have moved to the right.
/r/MensRights22/09/25 09:20 PM
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There are tons of dudes who wanna ensure that women don’t vote solely because women don’t fight in wars. Fair enough. And also because women, as a group, use government to steal from men. When you look at lifetime taxes paid vs benefits received, the average women is NEVER a net-positive taxpayer. They have no skin in the game. They get the benefits of voting for more welfare (which goes overwhelmingly to women) while men get the responsibility of funding it.
/r/MensRights22/09/25 09:16 PM
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You said men should slave away to keep society running while women do nothing. Nope, I did not. If that was a correct interoperation of my words, how could women be failing society?
/r/MensRights19/09/25 12:50 PM
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The advance development of civilization may make it seem this way, but going back to societies before civilization including earth civilization itself its clear that people were motivated by survival and resources. And women will trade resources for access to sex/reproduction. Take these monkies for example: https://www.zmescience.com/research/how-scientists-tught-monkeys-the-concept-of-money-not-long-after-the-first-prostitute-monkey-appeared/ Constraints on women's sexuality (Marriage, Monogam…
/r/MensRights19/09/25 12:49 PM
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Men and women are not the same in the way that they wish they were The biggest flaw in our current society is the idea of equality and interchangeability between the sexes. Like seriously, look at any species. The only difference greater than "male or female" is "alive or dead".
/r/MensRights19/09/25 12:37 PM
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No, it's your twisted interpretation of my words.
/r/MensRights19/09/25 12:36 PM
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So, in other words, you have no answer and will spout shaming language in order to think you've won the debate. You've replied to no points that I've made. Concession of defeat accepted.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 04:41 PM
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Also, hypergamy is a NEGATIVE instinct. Cool, so how do you remove it? See, that's the problem. You can't. It's part of the human condition. An island where 100% of people are productive would be way better than an island where one half of the population leeches off the other. But what are men productive for? Is it the men who want to achieve women, or is it the men who are in guyland who just produce enough to fund their hobby or two? That's why strong monogamous societies kick the advancement …
/r/MensRights18/09/25 04:02 PM
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Ahh, guilt by accusation. The finest of debate principals.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 03:54 PM
2

I'm talking about how women are failing society and I'm a woman worshiper? Do you use that grey matter between your ears?
/r/MensRights18/09/25 03:41 PM
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The male island would be utopia if not for lack of reproduction Until it faced an island where both genders existed and gets crushed by comparative lack of advancement. It's actually disgusting how you approve of hypergamy. I don't approve of it nor disapprove of it, because my opinion matters not to it's existence. It just is. The question is if we can build a society that harnesses that tendency to advance the society, if we ignore it and let it destroy society, or of we try to combat a biolog…
/r/MensRights18/09/25 01:52 PM
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When you start to understand what makes society tick, you realize it's men. It's men doing male things. And as you dive deeper and deeper into how it works, but keeping your mind on how society works today, you begin to wonder if women are anything more than a "necessary evil" on society because we can't reproduce without them. Now all they do is take take take and are a drain on men and society and I can understand that leading to hate. Women, we'd be so much better off without them, right? But…
/r/MensRights18/09/25 01:04 PM
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It is a man's "duty" to have a wife, support her, and raise children. It's a man's duty to support all of his children, no matter how they came about. What is duty? Duty is basically that which strengthens society, what compels society to drive forward, the sacrifices we all make to make us all better. This is undeniable truth. It is what drives society forward. But then there is another type of "Duty" out there. The duty for a woman to choose wisely before lying with a man. The duty of a woman …
/r/MensRights18/09/25 01:02 PM
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It would actually be Constitutional to say "only those who (are/have) served have suffrage". But again, it goes back to skin in the game. Think about this: over 80% of federal government funding comes from people working (income tax and SSI tax, both of which are based on how much you get paid). Yet 47% of income tax filings owe zero or less total income tax for the year. They pay nothing to support the federal government, yet have the same influence over where federal government dollars are spe…
/r/MensRights18/09/25 01:00 PM
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Civilization also needs feminity to motivate men to greatness and reward the successful. Unfortunately for us, our women have rejected that role. It will still kill society the same as men rejecting theirs, it will just take longer. That's how feminism kills societies.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 02:29 AM
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It's simple. 0 + 0 + 1 != 0. There are three aspects to equality: Rights, Responsibilities, and Disposability. Everyone focuses on Rights, but in reality the balancing act starts at the other end. Without equal disposability, you cannot enforce equal responsibility. Those with lesser disposability will not be held to the same level of responsibility as the others. If you don't have equal responsibility, there is no case for equal rights. You will end up with a moral hazard, where the group with …
/r/MensRights17/09/25 07:08 PM
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Concession of defeat accepted.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 06:56 PM
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Equality means little differentiation between genders. Since everyone has equal opportunities and won't be treated any differently than what biology necessitates, then there won't be as much of a distinct difference between men and women in terms of behaviours and culture (so no traditionally male jobs or activities, same with female ones.) How is this a "drawback" ? Equality means everyone has the same rights, but that doesn't mean that the Same responsibility is expected from everyone. So wome…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 06:52 PM
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Wasn’t voting rights predominantly given for land-owners, and not for army soldiers? It’s the people who could own massive amount of land that got voting rights first. The voting rights were tied to "skin in the game". Landowners were the original skin. They had a vested interest in continuing the good for people who lived there because they lived there and would continue to live there. The first draft in the USA was 1863. That's when all men had "skin in the game" and we felt that all men shoul…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 06:46 PM
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Humans as a species have long since gone past trying to live the way that nature wants, still following natural selection. And societal natural selection has shown, time and time again, that gender roles beats egalitarianism. It may not be natural, but that doesn't stop it from being a necessary step in the progress of our species as a civilisation. If you want to "progress" to self-destruction and/or defeat...
/r/MensRights17/09/25 06:32 PM
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Name 5 bad things about equality. If you can't even do that, you're indoctrinated. Instead, you are treating it as a universal good that is beyond question. That any "sane person" should support it and if you don't, well then you must be insane. That's how I know you're indoctrinated. You can't break that until you can name 5 drawbacks.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 06:32 PM
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Beside some lip service and some symbolic gender roles, people won't impose some stricte roles on women. Men will get feminist-tradcon hybrid. As long as women retain suffrage (and in every first world nation women control the majority of suffrage), this is correct. That's why I say there are only 3 solutions to feminism: Revolt, Expat, or Turtle.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 04:06 PM
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And i don't care whether it will result in "the end" or not. Ok, so you want what you want and damn the consequences. Well in that case, travel to the Semai and see if they'll adopt you. There, now your problem is solved and the rest of us that actually care about the future can continue unimpeded.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 03:39 PM
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You think this way because you live in a society that has removed women's gender roles, those roles being the basis of rewarding men who were successful at men's gender roles. So our society is doubling down on men to pull the yoke and promising no reward. Of course that's a raw deal that nobody wants. But the solution is not to reject male roles. That will end the society and the conquers or collapse will force men AND women back into traditional roles to survive. The solution is to put women b…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 03:04 PM
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This doesn’t strike me as a particularly insightful article about masculinity. To me, it is insightful. Because it is yet another example of a non-masculine equal society that exists in grass-huts level civilization and is either retreating from a masculine society or is isolated from any masculine society. "Equality" can only exist in the absence or rejection of inter-societal competition. Because as soon as you want to or need to compete, you need the synergy of gender roles get onto the playi…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 02:59 PM
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I want everyone to have the same rights and to be treated the same way. Like most egalitarians you only see part of the picture. You talk about rights, but ignore responsibility and disposability. You talk about equality as a goal, ignoring that every example that accomplished your goal achieved grass-huts level of existence. Equality isn't a goal, it's a path. Same with gender roles. Same with capitalism. Same with communism. When you desire a path instead of a goal, you're speaking from indoct…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 02:09 PM
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I'm kind of disappointed that a tribe has managed to reach proper equality before we have. You're treating equality like a goal. It is not. It is a path. And if it's a path towards life like the Semai, I'd prefer gender roles.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 01:21 PM
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The Semai live at the center of the Malay Peninsula in Southeast Asia. Though they exist at a subsistence level, land for much of their history was plentiful and sufficient for their needs. Because the Malays were so much more numerous and powerful, the Semai felt that attempting to fight back would mean the wholesale destruction of their people. Thus they chose to respond to the raids by trying to run away and settle elsewhere. If they were still caught, they readily surrendered. The men accept…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 01:06 PM
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Look at the few times Survivor did a men vs women start and see for yourself. The idea that men and women are interchangeable is bunk.
/r/MensRights15/09/25 04:10 AM
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It is a man's "duty" to have a wife, support her, and raise children. It's a man's duty to support all of his children by obtaining surplus survival resources and to protect them from harm potentially by supplying his own violence. What is this duty? This duty is basically that which strengthens society, what compels society to drive forward, the sacrifices we all make to make us all better. This is undeniable truth. When men fail in this duty, they are losers. But then there is another type of …
/r/MensRights12/09/25 02:00 PM
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Also what I noticed is that women villainise the “nice guy” but “bad boys” are actually okay. Women have always been attracted to the leader, the alpha, and even the rogue bad guy. Always. It's just that before women's suffrage changed our government to the point where women could get men's resources from men without having to keep the man's commitment by pleasing him, these men were big risks for the woman to pursue. Sure, the alpha guy would fuck her, but would he stick around to support her c…
/r/MensRights12/09/25 12:49 PM
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So you are saying the husband's role is to pander to the woman Did you reply to the wrong post?
/r/MensRights12/09/25 12:45 PM
1

When you start to understand what makes society tick, you realize it's men. It's men doing male things. And as you dive deeper and deeper into how it works, but keeping your mind on how society works today, you begin to wonder if women are anything more than a "necessary evil" on society because we can't reproduce without them. Now all they do is take take take and are a drain on men and society and I can understand that leading to hate. Women, we'd be so much better off without them, right? But…
/r/MensRights12/09/25 12:44 PM
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Well, if you don't do the work necessary to keep society going, society collapses and will be conquered by a different society that will still force you into the role. So you don't have an option of rejection. You have an option of if you'd like to be rewarded for the necessary work or not.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 12:40 PM
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Please don't act like the male version of feminist. I'm not. I'm going where the data and statistics lead. I don't care about "balance", I care about truth. Also, it's not "single motherhood" that's to blame - it's the fact that the father is uninvolved, usually by choice. • 40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the fathers visitation to punish their ex-spouse. ["Frequency of Visitation" by Sanford Braver, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry] • 50% of mothers see no value in the …
/r/MensRights12/09/25 12:38 PM
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In the USA, women pay 25% of taxes yet receive 80% of welfare. This results in a $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women via government.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 07:36 PM
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Oh well. If I have to believe obvious bullshit to not be a racist, I'd rather be a racist. I'm motivated by logic and reason, not avoiding shame. It's unfortunate that you are so easily controlled by others.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 07:27 PM
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studies also show that the absence of a female role model is equally detrimental. Not really. I repeat that the lack of the father is much more disastrous than the lack of a mother by statistics measuring outcomes of children. As for your source, it stated challenges and worries, not outcomes.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 07:25 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 04:49 PM
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Women control 56% of suffrage. They have turned the government into a surrogate husband (Bureaugamy). They syphon $2T/yr from men to women via government. Women are making the decisions. And they are deciding to exploit men for their benefit.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 03:03 PM
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I agree that both parenting roles existing makes for the most well-adjusted children. But we are seeing that the lack of the male role is much more disastrous for children than the lack of the female role. The teen pregnancy rate of fatherless daughters suggest this is even true for girls.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 03:00 PM
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Sadly that is what governments are doing, just in the opposite direction.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:56 PM
1

Charlie’s entire career was focused around winning the debate in proper democratic fashion. He was an olive branch conservative. He didn’t demonize, he discussed. He didn’t attack, he debated. They killed him for it. And they celebrated it. So now my question is: why attempt further negotiation?
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:43 PM
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Well, they posted that they didn't like what he said. But they didn't post where he was wrong.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:40 PM
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and even if traditionalism would still disadvantage men, the argument is that that end game is perhaps preferable to whatever our "modernity" will actually resolve in Under traditionalism, men do the work necessary to keep society going and get rewarded for it. Under progressivism, men do the work necessary to keep society going and get shit on for it. Both treat men as beasts of burden to keep society going, because without men society doesn't survive. One treats men as a mule which must be rew…
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:36 PM
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If other animals in the wild don’t need traditional roles neither do we. If you want live in mud huts, sure. But I prefer civilization. And civilization requires patriarchy and traditional roles.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:18 PM
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It is partially skewed data. It is also partially that men and women are different and have complementary parenting styles by default. The lack of the female parenting role is much less disastrous for the young adult child than the lack of the male parenting role. One example of #2: https://beyondthesestonewalls.com/posts/in-the-absence-of-fathers-a-story-of-elephants-and-men
/r/MensRights08/09/25 01:41 PM
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56% in the USA, last time I did the math.
/r/MensRights08/09/25 12:56 PM
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Man vs Bear was like the Zoe Post. A zeitgeist that changed everyone's view of the game at play.
/r/MensRights01/09/25 01:17 PM
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women are nowhere near different enough to treat them as second class citizens with lesser rights. Well they reversed the suspension but didn't restore the message, so let me repeat it: We will never treat women as citizens with equal responsibilities. As such, arguing for equal rights is actually arguing for female supremacy. That's the problem. That's why "equality" is anti-male.
/r/MensRights01/09/25 12:38 PM
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most so-called "misogyny" is an illusion. Most "misogyny" is simply wanting to keep women in traditional roles. And the comparison is easy to make because several progressive societies have freed women from their traditional roles. Now, we could recognize it as misandry to keep men in traditional roles if there was any society where men were freed from their traditional roles. The problem is societies tend to end rather quickly once that happens so the comparison window is rather short, so the c…
/r/MensRights01/09/25 12:34 PM
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There are several words and phrases that mean different things based on whether the speaker is male or female. "Trust" is one of them. Women don't understand what trust means to men. Women don't have the same concept of trust that men have. Because for women, in today's legal environment, trust doesn't carry the same weight as it does for men. When men trust women, and women violate that trust, the courts and society will be on her side. The man will be a fool who trusted the wrong person. When …
/r/MensRights27/08/25 06:29 PM
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The article is right to note that unemployment is a problem that affects young men to a greater degree than young women Of course it will: There are quotas for women in a company (hard or soft) in the name of DEI and to reduce the risk of getting sued for discrimination. 50% of college educated women drop out of the full-time workforce by 10 years after graduation. They get married and baby-track themselves into part-time work. Because of these factors, there is always a greater demand for entry…
/r/MensRights27/08/25 01:41 PM
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The difference here is that you believe in Tabula Rasa while I understand that theory is bunk. Men will vote in their own self-interest. They want to keep more of their own money. They will accept government for necessary services, but otherwise they want as small government as possible. Women will vote in their own self-interest. They desire to be taken care of financially by others: if they are married they want their husband to keep more of his money to support them; if they are unmarried the…
/r/MensRights27/08/25 12:31 PM
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We're supposed to be in a republic, not a democracy. But universal suffrage has effectively made us a democracy: where the majority poor steal from the minority with wealth via government. Our Constitution is supposed to prevent this, but universal suffrage has perverted government to the point where the Constitution is basically just a piece of paper. Why should we let those who don't pay into government direct it to steal from those who do to give money to those who don't pay? In what world do…
/r/MensRights27/08/25 01:40 AM
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Women are a cumulative net-negative in taxes for their entire lives. On a year by year basis, there's only a blip between 25 and 30 where they are actually contributing to taxes rather than being net negative. Women don't fund government. They take from it. And that's why government has exploded since the 19th: The ever expanding stealing from men to give to women. Our entire government, state and federal, used to work off of 2% of GDP. Now it's nearly 40%. Women's suffrage is a classic case of …
/r/MensRights26/08/25 09:06 PM
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The vast majority of men's legal issues can be traced to women's suffrage. Did you know that before the Tender Years Doctrine, men got the children in the rare cases of divorce? That was the result of a court decision somewhere out west where women already had suffrage prior to the 19th. Bureaugamy is the #1 MRM issue. Women take money from men via government, making government more powerful, more intrusive, and more stupid. Government has grown 2000% relative to GDP since 1920. Government suppo…
/r/MensRights26/08/25 06:05 PM
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To start with, you suffer from the delusion that you can somehow obtain equality in a sexually dimorphic species. You can't. You are dead wrong. Equality can't be the goal because seeking equality harms men. Men turn into persons; women turn into persons plus reproduction. Utter garbage. That's male supremacism, not men's rights. Gender roles are a requirement for a successful civilization. Additionally, without gender roles men become second class citizens, eventually stop giving a shit, and th…
/r/MensRights26/08/25 05:21 PM
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There's only one solution for men: Remove the 19th. Without that, women will continue to use their 56% voting majority to syphon $2T/yr via government. The moral hazard women paying 1/4th of taxes while receiving 4/5ths of welfare creates the system of Bureaugamy (marriage to the state) and all of the downstream problems resulting due to that. That's why I've said since forever ago that men must Revolt, Expat, or Turtle. Remove the 19th by force. Remove the 19th by relocating. Remove the 19th by…
/r/MensRights26/08/25 02:28 PM
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Women need marriage. Women that don't marry A man end up marrying ALL men via proxy of government. This is known as Bureaugamy.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:12 PM
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This isn't men's rights. This is a call for investing in patriarchy Patriarchy (father as head of household, men as head of government, strong marriage, expectations of women to be chaste and choose, expectations of men to earn) is men's rights. Not only is it a requirement for civilization, which greatly helps everyone's rights, but without it women use government as a surrogate husband and steal from men. the very same GYNOCENTRIC system that perpetuates male disposability! Male disposability …
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:10 PM
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To start with, pretty much all of the USA's homicides is concentrated in a small number of cities where 2A is significantly restricted. Once you remove those cities crimes (and populations), the per-capita homicide rate in the USA drops to near the bottom of the countries list. One great example of how removing guns increases killings is the UK. They banned guns in 1997 and homicides surged 50% over the next 5+ years. They only started to come back down after the UK increased their police force …
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:04 PM
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Correct.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 12:12 PM
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A man who is married will work at capacity in order to provide for his wife and family. A man who does not need marriage will work at the least capacity he can to survive and perhaps fund a hobby or two. "The pic of a mattress, a cardboard box as a nightstand, a TV and a console" <- Men can live like this when they don't care about getting women. And when a large percentage of men no longer care about getting women, our society will decline and eventually collapse. The significant overhead in go…
/r/MensRights26/08/25 02:05 AM
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I am also a men's rights advocate. I am an economic leftist How do you handle Bureaugamy as an economic leftist MRA?
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:58 AM
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You have to realize that there's only two types of feminists: The radicals who want to harm men. The others that claim "not all feminists" when someone points to the radicals but does nothing to challenge the radicals. The ones who actually challenged the radicals and got shot down so hard by groups 1 and 2 that they no longer call themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 03:24 PM
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I took a class a while back about how to be better at activism in favor of 2A. A lot of the discussion was how to make better emotional arguments. At some point I asked why we were focusing on emotion rather than facts and figures which were well on the 2A side. Another member of the class piped up "Anyone who can be convinced by facts and figures is already on our side because the facts and figures are on our side. We need to learn how to reach those who aren't convinced by facts." Smart man.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 02:43 PM
3

Women are 56% of the electorate. That means in any man vs woman issue, women start with a 12 point lead. In politics, a 20 point lead is considered a landslide.
/r/MensRights24/08/25 01:48 PM
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The article mentions that 70% of those hired in the growing fields requiring a college degree are women, but it doesn’t say why employers are hiring so many more women than men in these fields. Because 50% of college-educated women drop out of the full-time workforce by 10 years after graduation. Combine that with diversity requirements and there is going to be a continuous demand for entry-level women to keep the demographics "representative" so companies don't get sued for discrimination.
/r/MensRights21/08/25 02:56 PM
2

Thing is, he's right. Even if we don't want to admit it here. Men serving society keep society going. Without men doing that, society falls and you're taken over by a culture where men serve society and you'll be forced into the role. But there's another side to that: why should men serve society when society doesn't reward them? Well, this is women's role. They are the ones reward the successful men with strong monogamy. Women fulfilling their role keeps men fulfilling their role which keeps so…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 06:54 PM
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Welcome to late stage feminism. Women no longer motivate the men to marriage. The next generation will be men understanding that they can get by with minimum efforts. There's no reason to be killing yourself at a high stress job when a cardboard box as your nightstand is perfectly acceptable when you're not trying to woo women. And soon after, our advanced civilization will collapse. And we'll blame it on the men for "not doing enough" rather than recognizing that we need women to fulfill their …
/r/MensRights18/08/25 06:44 PM
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It simply means that there are more men in power than women by a great number. This is apex fallacy. The problem is, there will always be more men at the top because of those with the skills to be at the top there are far more men than women in that group. The extremes of mammalian expression belong to males. The top and the bottom are going to be dominated by males. Simply put, mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing, so males vary more than females do…
/r/MensRights14/08/25 08:13 PM
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We have far more men than women in congress, never had a female president, our judges are mostly male etc etc All elected by a 56% female voting base.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 08:10 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4gfp9s/women_make_up_56_of_suffrage_in_the_usa/
/r/MensRights11/08/25 06:12 PM
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Women control 56% of suffrage, so women are actually in control of "the system".
/r/MensRights11/08/25 01:22 AM
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There's some important gender differences here that need to be understood in the context of fear and risk. Men and women do not evaluate risk the same at all. Men see risk as a gradient; Women see risk as a binary. A man understand that some behavior may increase the risk of something bad happening (e.g. woodwork in flip-flops), but a man can understand the trade-offs involved and make a calculation if the gain (I don't have to go back inside to change footwear) are worth the risks (dropping som…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 07:39 PM
1

So are men superior or aren’t they? I'm sorry. I wasn't aware I was debating with idiot who can only see things in a single dimension. I guess new thoughts are just so hard for you to comprehend that you doggedly cling to what you were programed to be told. As individuals, an individual man needs an individual woman more than said woman needs a man. In that case, women are superior. As a society, women need men far more than men need women. In that case, men are superior. So are men superior to …
/r/MensRights05/08/25 07:20 PM
1

A hormonal birth control pill for men can't really exist. There's no hormonal off switch for male fertility like there is for female fertility. However, there is Plan A which is currently in development. It's based off of RUSIG which has been available in India for 30-40 years. It injects the vas with a polymer that shreds sperm as they pass through. Less side-effects than a vasectomy and lasts 10 years (and is reversable before then). They have recently passed a trial so hopefully there's more …
/r/MensRights05/08/25 01:01 PM
2

Before I read Unwin, I had come to the understanding that a successful secular society would fall into decline. My theory had to do with the idea of an abundant surplus of survival resources prevented the natural punishment of bad ideas that sound good, allowing them to spread and take hold. Religion acted as "natural law for dummies" which also prevented the bad idea's propagation by two major factors: extending decision timeline past one's own life and by promoting common values that prevent t…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 12:39 PM
1

One isn't better than the other, neither is superior, they are both equally important, they are just different.... I said both critically important, not equally important. If men stop fulfilling their roles civilization ends overnight. If women stop it takes a few generations. Are you going to sit here and complain about the tone, or are you actually going to challenge your own beliefs and try to learn something? You already know equality can't exist. You even came out and said it in a previous …
/r/MensRights05/08/25 12:26 PM
1

Men are not superior to women and women are not superior to men. Both have important roles to fulfill in society and both roles are critically important to the continuation of civilization. Unfortunately, women are no longer fulfilling their role, and our society will pay the price for it. It just takes longer to create the collapse than when men refuse to fulfill their role. I've been on /r/MensRights long before the egalitarian influx. I'll remain here to point out that their emperor of unques…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 07:23 PM
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Egalitarianism is just Feminism 2.0: Going to the same place (female supremacy) based on the same lie (equality) due to the same ignored condition (men and women are not interchangeable). Men become persons, women become persons plus reproduction. So if you'd like to support Feminism 2.0, do it somewhere other than a men's rights forum. /r/Egalitarianism is over there.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 06:13 PM
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Just as we need men to be cannon fodder to protect the nation's existence, we need to regulate the nation's pussy supply to protect the nation's prosperity. The alternative to natural gender roles is to abandon civilization. Is equality worth that cost?
/r/MensRights04/08/25 05:37 PM
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Religion to control the women; women to control the men. “The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.” And with government answering to women's 56% control of suffrage to steal from men to give to women, the benefit of male association drops dramatically.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 05:35 PM
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I WONDER what will happen when these jobs are given to women..? And when white, heterosexual males are deliberately disadvantaged in employment..? Herbivores / Incels dropping out of the dating market, realizing they can get by with 25% effort, and bringing society down by not contributing, leading to the eventual collapse. That's why unrestrained female sexuality destroys civilization: those women go after the top 20% in (soft) harems and demotivate the majority of men to the point where they n…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 05:28 PM
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If you agree with it, you would understand why men have a need for lack of emotional agency while women do not, and wouldn't suggest "unhealthy non-gendered social conditioning" as a replacement term.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 05:14 PM
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Men are not broken women.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 04:38 PM
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Add to that list the Department of Health and Human Services report on child maltreatment: https://acf.gov/cb/resource-library?&f%5B1%5D=program_topic%3A938 Before 2015 or so (IIRC), they used to include the relation of offenders. 2/3rds of all child abuse was preformed by the mother. 75% of all fatalities were by the mother. Those ratios were consistent for years. They stopped tracking that; I'm guessing because the numbers showed a trend they didn't like published.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 02:07 PM
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Let's be real about this: Liberals hate men. So when liberals turn on one of their own men, that's being hoisted by their own petard. They used the liberal machine to hurt tons of men, it's Schadenfreude watching them getting hurt by that same machine.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:43 PM
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Women have always been attracted to the leader, the alpha, and even the rogue bad guy. Always. It's just that before women's suffrage changed our government to the point where women could get men's resources from men without having to keep the man's commitment by pleasing him, these men were big risks for the woman to pursue. Sure, the alpha guy would fuck her, but would he stick around to support her children? As such, the woman's rational brains would temper these drives and impulses such that…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:36 PM
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Women adhering to traditional gender expectations is also required for society to function. It's just that the downfall takes a few generations to manifest, rather than happening overnight as it would in the case of men rejecting traditional roles, so few people recognize it as it's happening and make the connection.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:33 PM
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Actually, we do know. There have been matriarchies in the past. There have been patriarchies that have declined into matriarchies. There have been "eglatarian-ish" societies. Every great empire was patriarchal during it's rise. It declined and collapsed not long after it's decline into a matriarchy. Matriarchies can only exist in isolation; they transition into patriarchies or are conquered as soon as there is conflict. Same thing with the egalitarian societies. So we actually do have a pretty g…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:32 PM
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Traditional cultures protect women by restricting their freedoms: keeping them safe from making bad decisions. Modern cultures protect women by absolving them from the consequences of their bad decisions usually at the expense of the men in the culture. It's the same instinct to protect women, just different ways of accomplishing that goal.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 07:18 PM
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If women and men naturally distribute that way, if left completely to their own devices, with no social force whatsoever being exerted based on gender one way or the other, then ok, cool. That's just how people are. It's not just men and women, it's all mammalian species. Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing. And if you genuinely and truly think that is how people are, then you should have no problem with an egalitarian approach, as the genders will …
/r/MensRights31/07/25 08:17 PM
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What is wrong with that? The problem is that whatever you want done, you're going to find more men than women in the group of those who are best qualified. That means that the closer you get to a meritocracy, the more men dominate all the desirable jobs. And that will be seen as unfair. And everyone seeking "equality" won't be ok with the fact that Fortune 500 companies are lead 90+% by men.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 05:02 PM
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Now in the case of the sexes, there is, unfortunately, one single aspect in which we are biologically mandated to be inequal, that being reproduction. There is far far more than that. I'm going to start you with a huge one: in every quantifiable trait, males have larger standard deviations than females (this is a mammalian thing, not just a human thing). Because of that, the top and the bottom of human expression is overwhelmingly represented by men. That means we will never see demographic repr…
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:21 PM
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The vast majority of the manosphere is on the right. Reddit is one of the exceptions. There was a study done on r/mensrights in 2019 and the results showed that at that time the group leaned slightly left. ...... That's what I said. There is far more to the manosphere than just reddit.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:11 PM
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Well, since you've shifted from debating the argument to debating me for the last two posts, that lets me know that you know I'm right but your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to admit that. And that's where these threads usually go: because a liberal "MRA" will dump the MRA as soon as it conflicts with their liberalism. Hence, the majority of the manosphere outside of reddit's liberal echo-chamber is deeply conservative.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 09:21 PM
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Men are only rewarded if they are successful. So it's not a cake-walk. The tribe needs two things to continue: excess survival resources and the next generation. Because of that: Women are human beings while men are human doings. Men need to achieve in order to obtain surplus survival resources. They need to perform in order to be included in the tribe. A man is not in the tribe by default, but only when he provides value through his actions rather than his existence. Because the tribe knows tha…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 06:03 PM
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Read this for background on why equality is impossible: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hegw4/if_you_wanted_to_be_treated_equally_girls_that/c1uwh67/?context=3 Equality is impossible. Attempting to achieve it harms men and destroys society. The only thing that works long-term is natural (traditional) gender roles. It gives men a role, it gives women a role. Men gain value by filling their role to offset the natural inherent disposability that exists in males. Women advance society b…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:50 PM
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Rome had a similar phase, but even then it never came close to a matriarchy, just "liberated women" like today That is decline into matriarchy: when women are freed from natural gender roles while men are not (and men never can be, because that's instant suicide). And it has always lead to the death of the society. We are currently living thru late-stage feminism.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:35 PM
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Egalitarianism is just Feminism 2.0. It takes the same stated goal (achieving equality), falls victim to the same flaw (men and women are not equal nor interchangeable) and will lead to the same end result (female supremacy). I am interested in a world where neither gender oppresses the other, where we are basically equals, and other than the few instances, mostly surrounding reproduction, where a biological difference is unavoidable, that we otherwise are basically equals. So men are persons, a…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:25 PM
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The vast majority of the manosphere is on the right. Reddit is one of the exceptions. And if it can't be done, that it's inexorable that getting into Men's Rights will lead down those pipelines, then.....well isn't that a problem? What does that tell us? It does always lead to traditionalism. Because egalitarianism / equality (the goals of the left) detriment men. Men and women are not equal nor interchangeable. So attempting to make them equal leads to a system of female supremacy as men become…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:07 PM
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IIRC, it was OK Cupid that did that research. Women found 80% of men below average. Men found women much closer to 50/50.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 04:46 PM
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If abundance was the only thing needed for matriarchies Times of abundance and peace allow matriarchies to exist. we would have plenty of historical examples. We actually do have historical examples of matriarchies. They were either extremely isolated or patriarchies which declined into matriarchies because they thought they "won" the civilization race and forgot it's always going on.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 04:42 PM
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Looks like it's higher than I thought. AI answer, so verify if you plan to use this elsewhere. FGM Percentage in Muslim Countries Female genital mutilation (FGM) is practiced in several Muslim-majority countries, with varying prevalence rates. The practice is often linked to cultural and traditional beliefs rather than religious mandates, as no religious text promotes FGM. However, many individuals in these regions believe it to be a religious requirement. Below are some of the countries with si…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 06:24 PM
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Because Muslims also practice female genital mutilation, which is verboten.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 05:34 PM
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Times of abundance and peace allow matriarchies to exist. Times of hardship and conflict require patriarchy to survive. The Bonobos can only exist as they are because they have abundance and few/no natural predators. If either of those conditions were to change, they would either become much more chimp-like or be wiped out by competition/evolutionary pressure.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 05:33 PM
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So it does look like unfortunately a lot of is biological. From an evolutionary perspective it does make a lot of sense, there was a much greater intrasexual competition between human males, so the general apathy we have towards men and boys might have been beneficial in the past but obviously isn't nowadays now that we are not really involved in conflicts as much. The tribe needs two things to continue: excess survival resources and the next generation. Because of that: Women are human beings w…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 05:27 PM
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1: Any MRA who isn't blinded by equality disease wants a return to traditional gender roles. Simply put: men and women are not equal nor interchangeable, so equality creates a system where men are persons and women are persons plus reproduction. Traditional roles, which encompass the natural gender roles for both men and women, are the only way to have a stable society that doesn't lead to female supremacy. Equality does not and can not exist, and seeking it harms men and the society as a whole.…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 04:00 PM
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https://www.aamc.org/news/why-women-leave-medicine https://www.raconteur.net/talent-culture/mothers-return-work-maternity-leave All the pandemic news is making my original source impossible to find. But it showed that as education level increased for women, their 10 year full-time labor participation rate dropped. It's possible this changed after the pandemic. I'll have to do further research.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 03:05 PM
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Here's the problem: companies need a certain percentage of women or else they're "discriminating". On top of this, 50% of women with college degrees drop out of the full-time workforce by 10 years after graduation. That means there is a constant demand for more women graduates in these companies to maintain that percentage. Because of that, woman graduates will always get hiring preference.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 02:07 PM
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She's likely going to spend time in the brig over this.
/r/MensRights27/07/25 04:14 AM
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It gets even worse than that. Some people forgot to strip exif data: https://x.com/HardPass4/status/1948912213429027224
/r/MensRights26/07/25 04:13 AM
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Why are we so much nicer to the other side than they are to us? I see feminist comments on here that stay up for good. Because we have beliefs rather than identities and therefore are capable of handling dissent.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 06:07 PM
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Remember this system exists because men have been programmed to allow it. We are a successful secular society. That makes this result inevitable. In unsuccessful societies, stupid ideas that sound good don't have the ability to take hold because they are punished harshly by a lack of survival. It's only in a successful society where surplus survival resources exist to enable the stupidity to not be punished by starvation and/or death can these ideas take hold. Religious societies are based on na…
/r/MensRights24/07/25 05:07 PM
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"it's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard."
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:25 PM
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There are only 3 answers to feminism: Revolt, Expat, or Turtle. Revolt and replace your society with one based on natural law where men lead and women follow. Expat to a society based on natural law where men lead and women follow. Turtle to rise from the ashes after the destruction caused feminism where the needs of survival will enforce a society where men lead and women follow.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:21 PM
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Millions of years of evolution have been based on two truths: A man is rejected by default and must achieve to be included in the tribe. A woman is included by default and must not be too big of a burden to stay in the tribe. And that's why men compete on accomplishment while women compete on compliance.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:16 PM
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That's because society holds men much more capable than a woman. Heck, that woman even admitted that a 17 year old boy is more self-responsible than she is.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:12 PM
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There's nothing disgusting about raising and processing your own animals. Some factory farm practices are pretty horrible, but eating meat itself isn't the problem.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 02:10 PM
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We are a 2 sexed species. Gender roles are inevitable. The great lie of our current society is that men and women are interchangeable. They are not.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 08:17 PM
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Under traditional roles: men do the work necessary to keep society going and get rewarded for it. Under progressive roles: men do the work necessary to keep society going and get shit on for it. Those are the only two options. Which one is better for men?
/r/MensRights22/07/25 03:21 PM
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I can understand the desire to hate women. Especially on an overall scale. When you start to understand what makes society tick, you realize it's men. It's men doing male things. And as you dive deeper and deeper into how it works, but keeping your mind on how society works today, you begin to wonder if women are anything more than a "necessary evil" on society because we can't reproduce without them. Now all they do is take take take and are a drain on men and society and I can understand that …
/r/MensRights10/07/25 12:59 PM
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The most misunderstood thing about human sex drives is there are two of them, because the only similarity between male sex drive and female sex drive is that they are both sex drives. As for the men, look up an organ called the Epididymis. It is a sperm bladder. It fills up. It creates a series of signals in a man much the same as filling up your urine bladder. When it is full, it will trigger a strong desire for sex much like the other creates a strong impulse to pee. Just like someone will pis…
/r/MensRights10/07/25 12:54 PM
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I’m not sure if there’s a solution, but I predict at some point feminist influence will start to decline and there will be a correction back to positive male social and cultural esteem. History has shown that feminism is a self correcting social problem: it destroys the society it infests.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 02:08 PM
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We used to have a system that accomplished that opt-in. We called it marriage.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 01:49 PM
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3 big reasons: Male phenotypic diversity is greater than female phenotypic diversity: There are more men at the top, but there's also more men at the bottom. Men are human doings, women are human beings: There is a lot more public assistance for women. Men at the bottom are failures, women at the bottom need help. Price of pussy: women can trade sexual access for favors (money, relationships, help) while men don't have that option. I'm sure there also a lot of small reasons, but those 3 stick ou…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 12:35 PM
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The biggest shame of the social sciences is that they don't build upon previous findings as hard sciences do.
/r/MensRights02/07/25 05:34 PM
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Reply: "Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing" Women are demographically underrepresented because of those who are the best there are more men than women. Despite claims of equality, there are fundamental differences between men and women. The one that is important in this is that males have greater phenotypic diversity than females (this is a mammalian thing, not just a human thing). If it can be measured, physical traits or mental traits, men will h…
/r/MensRights02/07/25 05:28 PM
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Legal rights/responsibility differences: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/j461p/drawing_up_a_list_codified_legal_rights_that/c290s5r/ Feminism fighting against men's rights: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/ Kloo's list: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e60uz/antimale_legislation_roundup/
/r/MensRights01/07/25 03:13 PM
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There's only 2 types of feminists. The ones who hate and attack men. The ones who claim "not all feminists" but do nothing to deter #1. Those who actually attempted to deter #1 and got dumped on so hard by #1 and #2 that they no longer consider themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 12:49 PM
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Modern times no longer has much needs for the roles however it's only women they don't want the roles to apply to. Men are still held to their traditional role If men ended their traditional roles (produce more than you consume, provide violence to protect the tribe), society would end overnight. It's just that obvious. We know we can't free men from traditional roles. When women end their traditional roles (give birth to the next generation, incentivize men to achieve), society still dies but i…
/r/MensRights01/07/25 12:46 PM
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I had a source similar to the claim. It's a dead link now :( This link still exists for New Zealand. I'd suggest saving it while you still can. Look at figures 16 and 17... Government robs men to bribe women's majority of suffrage. When I did the math a little over a decade ago, total transfer of wealth was $2T/yr in the USA.
/r/MensRights30/06/25 01:55 PM
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All societies protect women over men. Traditional societies protect women by reducing their rights (and thereby there ability to get in trouble) and makes men responsible for their safety. Progressive societies protect women by absolving them from responsibility for the bad outcomes of their poor decisions and make men responsible for their well being by proxy of government (welfare, child support, etc.).
/r/MensRights23/06/25 04:25 PM
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What are the two things necessary for society to continue: Produce surplus survival resources. Produce the next generation. If you can't do those two things, your tribe dies. Women have job #2 because men can't fulfill it. That's why women have inherent value. Men have job #1 and have to achieve to do it, that's why men need to earn acceptance in the tribe. That's why women are human beings while men are human doings. You are arguing against an IS. That is a path to failure unless you have some …
/r/MensRights20/06/25 02:21 PM
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It is a man's "duty" to have a wife, support her, and raise children. It's a man's duty to support all of his children, no matter how they came about. What is duty? Duty is basically that which strengthens society, what compels society to drive forward, the sacrifices we all make to make us all better. This is undeniable truth. It is what drives society forward. But then there is another type of "Duty" out there. The duty for a woman to choose wisely before lying with a man. The duty of a woman …
/r/MensRights20/06/25 02:14 PM
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It's the typical feminist, and dare I say societal, line of thought: Men are just broken women.
/r/MensRights18/06/25 12:11 PM
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Ah yes, the “power plus prejudice” excuse. Love that one. I usually turn it around and tell them women have 56% of the vote, so by their standards it's men who can't be sexist.
/r/MensRights18/06/25 11:30 AM
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"Until you can demonstrate a way of convincing society to treat men and women as equally disposable, this fantasy of equality between men and women cannot exist and is not a valid argument." --Me
/r/MensRights16/06/25 07:57 PM
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What the hell are you doing on men's rights then? If you think men's rights = equality, you're in for a bad time. Attempting to achieve equality is exactly how we got into this mess. More of the poison is not the cure.
/r/MensRights16/06/25 03:28 PM
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Unlikely. If this was the case the same biases would be present in the generation of the CVs no? Read the methodology. Your concern wouldn't apply because they took the same CV and presented it with both male and female names.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 03:08 PM
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I would not accept a "reward" of a lazy parasite Back when women actually fulfilled their gender role, they weren't lazy parasites. I demand equality Unfortunately that will never happen. Go back to the first post in this chain.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:22 PM
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Well this explains why reddit works like ass for me (but is fine if I'm not logged in). Explain too much truth about women and they will silence you.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:15 PM
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Women have always been attracted to the leader, the alpha, and even the rogue bad guy. Always. It's just that before women's suffrage changed our government to the point where women could get men's resources from men without having to keep the man's commitment by pleasing him, these men were big risks for the woman to pursue. Sure, the alpha guy would fuck her, but would he stick around to support her children? As such, the woman's rational brains would temper these drives and impulses such that…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:07 PM
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Women bond from sex, but if they sleep around a lot that seems to go away. It sure seems that way. That would explain why women with 10+ partners tend to not have their marriages last.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:48 PM
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And your reply is exactly how freeing women from traditional roles destroys society (just "too slowly" so people don't put them together). You are no longer receiving a reward for your role, so why the fuck should you continue fulfilling it?
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:46 PM
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I did the math over a decade ago. So I don't have the exact sources to cite you anymore (I recently moved from Evernote to Obsidian and the amount of dead links I have now just plain pisses me off). Thankfully, there is still the New Zealand report that shows how women steal money from men via taxes: Here. Pay attention to figures 16 and 17. And save it while you still can.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:37 PM
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name 3 pro-male policies which the Republicans are trying to implement now? Lowering taxes. Reducing the size of government .... yeah, stuck here because they're not currently reducing welfare.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:32 PM
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If you want to turn this into a R vs D debate, do so on some other thread. Because for the topic of this thread: quit while you are still losing.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 08:38 PM
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Are we talking about the draft, or are we discussing transfer of wealth from men to women... you know: what the OP started with and what I continued?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 08:34 PM
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Except men forget, it's Republicans that push for this. Republicans push for more welfare? Increasing government and giving more to women has been a trend since 1920. It is both parties, but much more one than the other.... and not Republicans.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 08:19 PM
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Now get these guys to realize that the US government transfers $2T/yr from men to women. That will really wake them up to how much our government screws men to win women's votes.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:11 PM
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Survival is cold and Machiavellian. It doesn't give a shit about immoral or reductionist. But don't worry, our society will eventually collapse because our women have shirked their traditional roles.... and be replaced/conquered by a society that has traditional roles for men and women.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:09 PM
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Why should anybody care? Because without babies your society ends. They still needed men to reproduce. 1 man and 10 women equals how many babies? 10 men and 1 woman equals how many babies?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:07 PM
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Yes, you can. Simply collaborate with other men, what is stopping you from doing that? Because men don't have inherent value like women do (from wombs). Women may be human beings, but men are human doings. Since the beginning of humanity, men had to earn their spot in the tribe. They had to produce more than they consumed so that the tribe benefited. Women had value because they slung the pups that were the next generation. Instead, they had to not rock the boat too hard to get kicked out of the…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:17 PM
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Women bond from sex in ways that men don't. I'm not sure of the chemical pathways, but it likely comes down to evolution due to the "involvement vs commitment" line of thinking: a woman who has sex is biologically risking 9 months of commitment so there is some trigger that causes her to bond to the guy she's having sex with that increased survival rates of offspring. That's why most women can't maintain a FWB without attempting to relationship the guy.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:22 PM
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The first wave was obtaining men's rights while rejecting men's responsibilities. The second wave was about reducing women's responsibility to society. The third wave is about increasing men's responsibility towards women. Feminism is, and always has been, a female supremacy movement.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:58 PM
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Legal rights/responsibility differences: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/j461p/drawing_up_a_list_codified_legal_rights_that/c290s5r/ Feminism fighting against men's rights: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/ Edit: I forgot Kloo's list https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e60uz/antimale_legislation_roundup/
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:56 PM
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Women were "historically oppressed" comparative to today because we have freed from their traditional gender roles. Men will be viewed as "historically oppressed" once they are freed from their traditional gender roles... for the few months that society exists before collapsing.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:35 PM
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Men compete with each other. Women collaborate. That's why you are seeing this difference. I don't think you can fix it. You are dealing with an Is rather than an Ought.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:27 PM
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Women have not been responsible for themselves for... well forever. Old societies restricted women's rights to women couldn't get themselves in trouble. Modern societies absolve women from responsibility for their bad choices by pushing that responsibility onto men.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:25 PM
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Because women don't have agency. Women are not responsible for themselves. Both society and government see women this way and women have used their votes to move government even further along the lines of women not being responsible for themselves.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:23 PM
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Hoe_math has this video of a girl blaming guys for situationships, as in hooking up with her, and not wanting a relationship. Just like women are not sex machines that you put nice tokens into to get sex; men are not relationship machines where you put sex in to get a relationship!
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:22 PM
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You can say " Islam is sexist because a woman can't leave the house without covering her face or she will be killed When in the same country " a man can not shave his beared or he will be killed" The "oppression of women" is built on ignoring the condition of men.
/r/MensRights11/06/25 01:03 PM
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Citations are there. I didn't save the source documents back when I compiled this list (they may or may not still be accessible today... it's been a while).
/r/MensRights10/06/25 07:41 PM
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Both republicans and democrats both ultimately answer to women's 56% control of suffrage, so neither party panders to men. On the other hand, the trend over the last several decades has been that republicans ignore men/men's issues while democrats actively demonize men. I know which side is better for me.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 01:30 PM
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And how tf did you interpret "women still deserve voting rights" as "men should be second-class citizens"? Women control 56% of suffrage. Since 1920 government has exploded by stealing men's money to give to women in order to bribe women's votes. Currently women pay 25% of taxes and receive 80% of welfare, leading to that $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women that I mentioned. That's the result of women's suffrage. It turns men into second class citizens as government bribes women for thei…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 01:26 PM
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I’ll be protesting today to support the Puerto Rican men in my local community. Ice Melts, brothers. Are you an idiot? Puerto Rico is a US territory. They can just come to the US. No visa required. They have no fear of ICE because they are US citizens.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 01:20 PM
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63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes --U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes --Center for Disease Control 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes --Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, p. 403-26 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes --National Principals Association Report on the State…
/r/MensRights10/06/25 01:14 PM
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So even if women are as useless as you claim, they're still entitled to their voting rights. So you're fine with women stealing $2T/yr from men via government? You're fine with men as second class citizens?
/r/MensRights10/06/25 01:02 PM
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Of the federal income taxes paid, only 25% is paid by women. Income taxes (and direct proxies such as social security) are the majority of federal income.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 12:58 PM
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Women control 56% of suffrage while only paying 25% of taxes and receiving 80% of welfare, resulting in a $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women via government.
/r/MensRights09/06/25 04:49 PM
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"If you don't give in to women and accept a life of servitude, you end up being a dangerous person." You don't become dangerous, you become unproductive. And when enough men become unproductive, civilization comes crashing down. That's not men's fault, that's just the logical outcome of the way society set up the rules. Shaming/blaming men into continuing to wear the yoke without any benefit will eventually fall on deaf ears. We will pay the price for our society's rejection of natural law.
/r/MensRights04/06/25 03:25 PM
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That whole sentence is a projection of your own psyche. Google "Guyland", next google "Herbivore men". It's reality.
/r/MensRights04/06/25 03:18 PM
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What do men become without women? Think about that. Have you never heard of Guyland or Herbivores? Without women's hypergamy to motivate them to more, a man will exert enough effort to fund his survival and his hobbies. Perhaps 30% of what he is capable of. But give those men women to compete over and he'll do as much as he can to earn the women he wants. But allow hypergamy to reign without constraint, and more and more men will drop out of that race because the juice isn't worth the squeeze. W…
/r/MensRights04/06/25 12:37 PM
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do you not think women should be able to do the same as men? what is your point? Do women bear the same responsibility for the vote? Can women be conscripted? Do women provide net-positive taxes? Why should women vote? Why should they get 56% majority control of a government funded 75% by men's taxes and protected 100% by men's conscription?
/r/MensRights03/06/25 02:23 PM
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Hypergamy is like fire: a wonderful tool and a terrible taskmaster. When hypergamy is harnessed in a society with strong marriage: men competing for women is what drives society forward, everyone riding on the coattails of the successful. When hypergamy is unrestrained like in today's society, it tears us apart, destroys families, and creates soft harems for the successful and disincentivizes the rest. That the bottom becomes dead weight will bring the rest of society down. This is not the fault…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 01:58 PM
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Do you have a source for those exact percentages though? Update: Yes, it's been scrubbed. Old post talking about it is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7qn6m8/research_finds_as_a_group_only_men_pay_taxes/
/r/MensRights29/05/25 08:31 PM
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Republican senators were the most vocal opponents to bills that would have made the draft gender neutral Drafting women into the military is stupid for a multitude of reasons. Fewer women qualify the physical fitness standards, women are less effective in combat costing male member lives, women wear out faster costing the government more in medical care, and any woman who doesn't want to get drafted can just pregnancy out of service. Drafting women into motherhood so that we no longer need to im…
/r/MensRights28/05/25 03:37 PM
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It's shaming language designed to get you to defend yourself from the charge rather than to continue to make your points. I call these "debate ending control words". The only solution is to quit giving a fuck about the labels and just continue to make your points. Soon, like "racist" or "sexist", it will be so overused it won't matter to anyone.
/r/MensRights28/05/25 01:07 PM
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Republicans don't care about men's rights. Democrats are actively against men's rights.
/r/MensRights28/05/25 01:03 PM
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Solid point! Why? Because that's the law. So because it's "the law" we're fine with women stealing $2T/yr from men via government? We're fine with women getting so much government support that Bureaugamy is the better financial deal than 2/3rds of men? Women's suffrage is like giving all 3 kids an equal say in the household budget. Sure, they make some money, but why is there only candy in the cupboards and why are you constantly in every increasing debt? Do you have a source for those exact per…
/r/MensRights28/05/25 12:27 PM
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I don't think that Men's rights are incompatible with the first and second wave feminism First wave feminism wanted men's rights but rejected men's responsibilities. Second wave feminism fought against women's responsibilities to society. Third wave feminism fights to increase men's responsibilities towards women. Feminism has been a female supremacy movement since it's inception.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 06:02 PM
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This guy has some stupid takes, like "women shouldn't vote". That's just insane. Women supply 25% of taxes, receive 80% of welfare, provide 0% of the conscriptable force, provide 15% of the volunteer force. Why should women get 56% control of government? Especially now that we know women turn government into a surrogate husband (Bureaugamy) and syphon $2T/yr from men to women in welfare alone? How does women's suffrage make sense?
/r/MensRights27/05/25 05:58 PM
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In the beginning of the country, voting was for those who paid taxes. And considering that men pay 75% of taxes, while women receive 80% of welfare, leading to a $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women.... perhaps we should revisit the idea of only those who pay net-positive taxes getting the vote.
/r/MensRights24/05/25 08:03 PM
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The core of it was about wanting the same rights men had. But rejecting the same responsibilities men had. If you want the rights but reject the responsibilities, that's a supremacy movement. Feminism didn’t start as a hate group. You might want to read the Declaration of Seneca Falls and reconsider that notion. "The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her. To p…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 05:48 PM
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Why would I not find her in my circle of Master / Phd? The higher the level of education, the higher the odds the woman mommy-tracks out of the workforce by 10 years after graduation.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 12:55 PM
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Ask any hetero guy, probably like 85% of them couldn't tell the difference between payless and prada. Even further: we don't care. Does she look cute wearing them? Yes or no, that the only question that matters. I'd rather have my woman in something cute from a bargain-basement than something ugly from name-brand designers.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 05:22 PM
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Even then: Life, uh..., finds a way.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 05:16 PM
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Sometimes "Is" is in direct opposition to people's "Ought" and they aren't happy about it.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 02:27 PM
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Feminists like to use the logical fallacy of assuming that all allegations of rape are true There have been only 3 actual studies (rather than police statistic compellations) that I know of which were designed to determine the rates of false rape allegations: Kanin: 41% Kanin: 50% Air-Force Study: 60% Standards/Methodology: For Kanin studies were the accuser was required to admit that it was a false rape allegation. For the Air-Force Study there was a tribunal of 3 and IIRC it had to be unanimou…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 02:24 PM
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You have to remember that males are the experiments. Males of mammalian species experience more phenotypic diversity than the females; male standard deviations are larger. There are more male geniuses but also more male retards. The same is also true even when sexual dimorphism is in play: males vary more in height than women do. As I like to phrase it: "Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing." Environmental shifts are typically slow on the genetic sca…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 02:11 PM
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"Honey, do you want me to solve this or do you want me to commiserate?" Men bond by solving shit together and/or competing. Women bond by sharing emotions. Sometimes, it's aggravating to realize that women are women and men are men.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 01:38 PM
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Best thing on that thread: Women say sexist shit to men all the time, "grow a pair", "be a man", etc. Can you imagine setting someone on fire every time you heard someone say "Man up!"? No way. Not with the price of gas nowadays.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 01:31 PM
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The answer is simple: The right doesn't care about men. The left actively hates men. I'd rather be ignored than attacked.
/r/MensRights20/05/25 08:12 PM
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As I like to say: "Patriarchy is the price we pay for civilization."
/r/MensRights20/05/25 02:29 PM
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Make marriage a fair contract and men might reconsider. Women control a majority of suffrage in every first world nation. How do you plan to convince women to give up their advantages? Either you get married and they have all the advantages, or you stay single and women will demand a bachelor tax. Either way, you support women.
/r/MensRights20/05/25 02:13 PM
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How is fair in current situation where a man by default has to pay alimony if they end up divorced in future. Isn’t it forcing men into marriage ? Men are already forced into marriage. If they don't marry a woman, they'll still be married to all women via proxy of government. Bureaugamy (Marriage to the state) is the result of women using their voting majority to get government support from taxes (of which men pay around 75%). The only balance to this force is married women. They want their husb…
/r/MensRights20/05/25 02:10 PM
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There are 3 pillars of equality: Equal Rights Equal Responsibility Equal Disposability For exact equality (Egalitarianism) all 3 must be perfectly balanced. And the secondary problem is that they work bottom-up rather than top-down, while the latter is how most people try to solve the "equality problem": Without equal disposability, you cannot enforce equal responsibility. Without equal responsibility, equal rights becomes a system of supremacy. So it comes down to the big question: Can you enfo…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:56 PM
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Yep, we started this trend when we gave women 55% control of suffrage. And we will eventually fail, as all matriarchies do.
/r/MensRights14/05/25 05:18 PM
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I suggested that women have agency and could understand consequences of their choices. It didn't go well... Perhaps I was wrong.
/r/MensRights14/05/25 01:10 PM
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I ran the number for the USA around a decade ago. Men pay 75% of taxes while women receive 80% of welfare. That amounts to a $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women via proxy of government! Mind you, when I ran these numbers the GDP was $16T so that meant 1 out of every 8 dollars made was taken from a man to be given to a woman. And that is only government direct welfare, it doesn't include alimony, child support, or the myriad other ways government takes from men and gives to women (e.g. pr…
/r/MensRights13/05/25 06:12 PM
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The Republican party really doesn't care about men. The Democrat party actively hates men. Democrats can reach out all they want, but they'll only capture fools.
/r/MensRights02/05/25 06:23 PM
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What happens to a culture when one sex’s shadow traits are disciplined, and the other’s are indulged? Just as men leaving their traditional roles destroys society, so does women leaving theirs. It just takes longer so fewer people make the connection. But where is the equivalent restraint for female narcissism? It's encouraged, because the 56% female voting majority influences government to support women off the back of men's 75% share of taxes, securing reelection and growing government. That n…
/r/MensRights02/05/25 06:13 PM
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Exactly. Women control 56% of suffrage. Men's rights is a political no-go as long as women have suffrage. Anyone that challenges the female imperative will get removed from office.
/r/MensRights01/05/25 01:15 AM
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Religion controls women so that those women control men, all in the hope of a better society by allowing common values to beat the Dunbar number. Some form of shared culture and values is important to build a civilization, and religion was the earliest ways of doing so.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 09:01 PM
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Well of course women lead in consumer spending. The government transfers $2T/yr from men to women. Men pay 75% of taxes while women receive 80% of welfare.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 01:46 AM
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In the eyes of the government, women are more valuable because they are the ones who birth children. Women are more valuable because women control 56% of the vote. Government has learned it can bribe women's votes using (75% male funded) taxes. That's a win/win: they get (re)elected and government grows more powerful.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 11:47 PM
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You actually think woman shouldn’t vote? Women's suffrage creates Bureaugamy. Bureaugamy is the #1 MRM issue. I think the case against women's suffrage is pretty clear.
/r/MensRights15/04/25 03:20 PM
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Men vote in their own self interest: they want more money. Since men make their own money, they vote to have lower taxes and government only provide critical services. Women vote in their own self interest: they want more money. If a woman is married, she wants to her husband to keep more of his money so she has access to it. If she is unmarried, she wants more government providing more services to her (This marriage to the state is called Bureaugamy). In the USA, Bureaugamy currently costs men …
/r/MensRights15/04/25 03:14 PM
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No, it's the typical male hyperagency and female hypoagency.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 03:12 AM
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Yes, this is the forgotten other side if the equation: Traditional societies have roles for men AND women. Women are expected to play their part as well.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 02:32 AM
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Patriarchy is the price we pay for civilization.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 02:30 AM
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Its all about absolving women of any accountability. In traditional societies, women don't have accountability so their rights are reduced so they won't get themselves in trouble. In progressive societies, women don't have any accountability so government forces men to pay for women's mistakes. I actually can't think of a societal model, current or history, where women had accountability.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 02:29 AM
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I want to ask more about Production vs Creation— is there a difference? I don't feel there is a difference. Just two different words for "obtaining surplus survival resources" (which can include making money, as long as money can be traded for those resources). Some are produced, some are created. Does that make him not masculine or effeminate? It depends on how the man is behaving. It could be that he's attempting to be masculine and just failing at it. It could be that he's immature and still …
/r/MensRights07/04/25 10:41 PM
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If I Consume more than I Produce, am I no longer Masculine? There are exceptions to the masculine role granted both in early life, while a child, and late in life, when retired. The male child learns to accept his role and becomes better at it until he produces more than he consumes. The retired man (hopefully) has saved up enough of his own excess to provide for himself in his later years.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 08:03 PM
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Throughout every civilization, throughout every time in history and pre-history, there has been one constant of manhood: Produce more than you consume. Pretty much every other aspect in the male gender role is to make a man more successful at that constant and/or upon whom to supply the surplus.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 07:38 PM
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Religion keeps women in check -> Women keep men in check. Lacking religion, survival keeps gender roles in place. You are touching on why successful secular societies always decline into eventual failure.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 06:18 PM
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For society to advance there are two conditions which much be true: Some segment of society must produce more than they consume so there is surplus to advance society. The segment of society not engaged in #1 must be promoting/rewarding #1 such that there is a desire for those in that segment to continue doing so. Throughout all history, men are #1 and women are #2. The biggest reason behind that is women are vulnerable during pregnancy while men are not, so women have to be carried. If men quit…
/r/MensRights07/04/25 06:15 PM
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Because women control 56% of the vote.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 04:21 PM
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Which makes child support Indentured Servitude and unconstitutional.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 04:21 PM
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I'll one-up that pill... State governments get kickbacks from the federal government based on how much child support they collect. It's actually a money-making scheme for the state.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 04:20 PM
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It's not in human DNA Correct. It's in mammalian DNA. You don't reproduce w/o courting a woman. That men have (minor) greater concerns for women's issues than even their own issues is a function of biology rather than society. It's just that when you add women's (significant) greater concern for women's issues on top of that by giving women the vote that turns society into a woman-worshiping man-hating machine.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 04:18 PM
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First Wave: Men's rights without men's responsibilities. Second Wave: Reduce women's responsibility towards society. Third Wave: Increase men's responsibility towards women. Because I see it that way, I don't see a 4th wave. It's just a continuation of 3rd to even further absurdity.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 04:14 PM
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Marriage and family is the cornerstone of the development of a culture. Or, as I like to phrase it: Patriarchy is the price we pay for civilization.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 08:34 PM
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It happened to black men first because the average black man has a lower average earnings than other races. As such, they were the most affected by women marrying government rather than marrying men.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 04:29 PM
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"Yes but not really, because both men and women do this to men... It's not only men having these expectations, it's everyone, the whole society." Protip: adding > at the beginning of a line is a reddit quote, like what you see above.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 01:55 PM
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when a man perpetuates a harmful gender norm (like thinking he should supress his feelings because he is a man) we call it "toxic masculinity". And when a man suppresses his feelings to get a job done, like firefighters suppressing fear to run into a burning building and save people, we call that necessary and applaud them. mrm's should switch from the phrase "toxic masculinity" to the phrase "internalized misandry" to level the playing field and equalize the underlying agency discrepancies. I d…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 01:53 PM
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Bureaugamy (marriage to the state) is the #1 MRM issue. $2T/yr is transferred from men to women via the USA government in the form of welfare. And that doesn't account for child support and alimony which raises that number higher. But good luck getting any changes to that system past women's 56% control of suffrage.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 12:20 PM
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This way is not traditionalism I don't think you understand. Under traditionalism (honest, REAL traditionalism rather than the neo-traditionalism you see people argue today), men and women have separate roles in society. Women don't get to pick and choose like they do today. And voting rights are definitely not within women's role... they don't fund society or defend society, by what insanity should they direct society?
/r/MensRights26/03/25 08:49 PM
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You don't get me It's either we get women to fight next to us This is also cultural suicide. we get more special privileges than them just for the we are born male (not only voting rights but much more) This is the way. Reach back into traditionalism and realize the 19th was the biggest mistake our nation made.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 05:59 PM
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People are going to the trenches anyways. It's necessary for the survival of the nation. Under traditionalism, men do the dirty work necessary to keep society running and are rewarded for it. Under progressivism, men do the dirty work necessary to keep society running and are shit on for it. I know which of those two I'd prefer.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 01:11 PM
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if you are an MRA and still believe in traditional values i would suggest leaving the movement Egalitarianism is brain rot. Not only is it faced with impossibility, attempting to achieve it damages men.
/r/MensRights25/03/25 02:35 PM
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Wow, most links for this are dead. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/itss-ten-oclock-do-you-know-where-your-sperm-are.149081/ San Luis Obispo County v. Nathaniel J. which is California. But that's not the only one.
/r/MensRights21/03/25 06:12 PM
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I wouldn't put this outside of the realm of possibilities It's not only possible, it's happened. There was a kid who was 13 when his 39 year old teacher had relations with him. If I recall correctly, the kid was under a order of child support by age 15.
/r/MensRights21/03/25 01:00 AM
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Because men do shit, women don't. Get enough angry women together and there'll be a bunch of griping happening. Get a bunch of angry men together and governments go down.
/r/MensRights20/03/25 09:26 PM
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You have pretty much nailed it. Men compete against other men in groups, so there is no brotherhood of men. Women compete against other women individually, which allows a sisterhood of women umbrella above that individual competition.
/r/MensRights20/03/25 02:55 PM
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Also developing a different method for engineering a vaccine doesn't mean you're changing the definition of vaccine. I didn't claim that. I claimed they changed the definition of a vaccine. And they did.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 04:44 PM
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The old and still true mantra is that the right doesn't care about men's rights one way or the other, while the left is actively against them.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 12:59 PM
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Especially in the last decade or so they have taken a much more anti science turn. While this wasn't really the case a decade ago these days there are more antivaxxers among the right than the left. Once the definition of vaccine was changed, of course those more influenced by logic and reason would start to question vaccines in general.... To blindly trust "science" because it's science is an emotional argument.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 12:26 PM
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There are two big groups in the world. One is motivated by emotions and wanting to fit in. The other is motivated by logic and reason. It's not exclusive, but you will find that the first group leans heavily left and the other heavily right. Feminist arguments are mostly fueled by emotion, so if you disagree you "must be" on the right. So that's where the accusation of being "on the right" comes from. As for the other accusation, it's an emotional argument that boils down to "nobody will like yo…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:34 PM
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Is it brainwashing to say "people who allow the continued existence of the nation are awesome and necessary" when they are necessary and should feel good about allowing the culture to continue?
/r/MensRights14/03/25 12:33 PM
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If you want people to do undesirable jobs you need to provide incentives. Either higher pay or a sense of pride/duty. A defense force is a must have job for a nation. You don't exist without one. So you either have to pay soldiers a lot of money to risk their lives or have a culture that sees military service as a sense of pride / duty of the citizen.
/r/MensRights14/03/25 02:44 AM
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Most MRA arguments in public are "poor" because talking about real issues blows too many minds and causes so much outrage that the outrage is the story rather than the points being made. Let's be real, what is the goal of the MRM? To end governmental discrimination against men. What is the biggest governmental discrimination against men? Bureaugamy. The $2T/yr (in the USA) transfer of wealth from men to women via government. Follow the money and realize that women using their 56% control of suff…
/r/MensRights13/03/25 07:46 PM
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You said women should go off hormonal birth control before a man commits to her. Yes. So the two of you can determine your fertile compatibility rather than your fake-pregnant compatibility. (Yes, most of this is on her end. The guy's opinion isn't going to change much.) There have been plenty of cases where the couple go off birth control to have a child and as soon as the hormones are out of the woman's system she has a sudden reverse of attraction to her mate.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 06:22 PM
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You are entirely misrepresenting my point and arguing against things I didn't say. Try again.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 05:32 PM
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There's a lot I'd do if I were emperor... but I'm not so that's just talk. On a personal level: your woman has to be off birth control at some point before you make it a long-term commitment. Yes, I know condoms suck, but divorce sucks more. The hard part: my post is not yet common knowledge, so convincing your new woman to go off birth control will likely be difficult. I was lucky that my woman had issues with birth control and wasn't on it when we started dating.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 03:01 PM
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Emotional arguments, aren't.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 02:56 PM
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The one that kills me is the oft-quoted BOL statistic that women only earn 77% of what men earn. The exact same study shows that women only work 74% of the hours men work. Meaning the wage gap actually favors women.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 12:31 PM
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The first splinter in my mind was when I was young and thinking about college. I had heard over and over again how disadvantaged women (and minorities) were, but that the majority of grants and scholarships that were limited to either women or minorities gave me hard facts to start questioning that belief. And then I started noticing other things rather than just accepting the pretty white lies.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 12:29 PM
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It's a standard Ought vs Is problem. The other problem is that Hume was an idiot. Is always wins. Those who pretend Ought actually is lose to those who recognize Is and behave accordingly.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 12:26 PM
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Newsflash: the sky is blue. It doesn't care how unfair you think that is, it simply IS. Much like a business can't do any good if it isn't solvent, a society can't promote it's values if it's conquered. Women have inherent value to society because they are the reproductive potential that gives birth to the next generation. Men don't have inherent value and therefore have to actually go out and do things to provide more than they consume and prove value to the society. That's how the world works …
/r/MensRights13/03/25 12:22 PM
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opposing social welfare Hey, if you enjoy transferring $2T/yr from men to women via government, perhaps it's YOU who isn't the MRA....
/r/MensRights13/03/25 12:06 PM
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Yup, all nations sell the lie to its people that fighting for your country is somehow honorable. Because nations that didn't were conquered and replaced by those which did. So why bother fighting for it. When society becomes sick enough that it's men no longer care to put forth the effort to continue it, it will end. Society runs on men's backs, so it has to convince its men to keep working. Family has been the usual way as men will want to leave a better world for their children. But ever since…
/r/MensRights13/03/25 11:53 AM
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The pill, championed for its liberating effects, often comes with a less discussed trade-off: dampened libido and altered partner preference, stealthily eroding intimacy. This is more huge than most people think. A pregnant woman is biologically programed to desire to want to be around pheromones more similar to her own (more like her own family). So a woman dating while on hormonal birth control will find herself more attracted to men with those pheromones. She'll eventually marry one of them. …
/r/MensRights13/03/25 11:45 AM
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Women want men to provide for them. Period. Either one man, directly, through marriage; or all men, indirectly, thru bureaugamy (marriage to the state).
/r/MensRights07/12/24 03:39 PM
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But who benefits from that even in those times? A culture without warriors will be conquered and forgotten by a culture with them.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 03:34 PM
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So is that males choosing not to vote? No vote is a form of voting, really, isn’t it? In the USA, those eligible to vote are 56/44 in favor of women. Women make up 52+change% of the adult population. The rest of the difference comes from disenfranchised felons.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 03:30 PM
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You are wrong because you don't understand the meaning of the word "naturalized". A legal immigrant who takes the citizenship test becomes naturalized. There is no talk about deporting naturalized citizens.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 02:26 PM
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Not a joke. Foreskin is an ingredient in many high-end anti-aging creams.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 10:13 PM
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You beat me to it! Congrats. This is yet another example why Bureaugamy is the #1 MRM issue.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 09:59 PM
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Testosterone is one hell of a drug.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 01:10 PM
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In many criminal cases, the Jury gives a recommendation of punishment to the judge.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 12:30 PM
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Feminism (because women control 56% of the vote) Jews (because they run the majority of the banks)
/r/MensRights01/04/24 07:38 PM
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It's on the previous slide, at the bottom. Threw me for a loop as well until I went back and looked for the missing 5 states.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 03:17 PM
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Slide 3 has happened. I've walked out of dates before.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 06:51 PM
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It depends on how you want to define "Gynocracy" but food for thought: There is no culture at any time period in history were women were more likely to be: Jailed Die in combat Die by violent crime Pay more taxes Be enslaved/indentured Simply put: women have children. Because of that, women have inherent value to society by giving birth to the next generation. Because of that inherent value, women will always be more protected and less disposable than men. So depending on your definition, the an…
/r/MensRights21/03/24 06:46 PM
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Well, that was a problem created by breaking from traditionalism and allowing women's suffrage to influence government to create those laws. Before, children were fruit of the marriage and stayed with the father. Alimony was rare, and dissolution of the marriage concerned assets at the time rather than any continuing payments.
/r/MensRights13/03/24 05:28 PM
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Conservatives think of men as cogs in the machine to keep society going. To be fair, they have the same view of women. Progressives are actively anti-male.
/r/MensRights13/03/24 12:31 PM
10

You are correct that many people here are confusing the MRM (which is a rights movement) as a social movement. It is not.
/r/MensRights07/03/24 02:15 PM
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Traditional gender roles are shit. Men need to be more selfish. Rather, it's a perversion of traditional roles. The traditional role is that the man is the breadwinner, the woman stretches that money as far as it goes. This wife is not stretching anything, and instead is making her own money that isn't "family money". That's not how the roles work. If she were a traditional wife, she would be assisting the family unit in times of need such as in the post. She'd make more of the meals with less. …
/r/MensRights07/03/24 02:02 PM
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Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing. In any measurable trait, males vary more than females. Of those at the top, there are more men than women. At the bottom it's the same, more men than women. It's not that men are better, but of those who are better the extreme majority are men (in genius IQs, it's 30:1).
/r/MensRights05/03/24 09:18 PM
5

You are correct that women's suffrage is leading towards self-destruction.... but what women want, women get.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 09:15 PM
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What? Are you serious? It's true that some women write laws, but just look at what percentage of legislators are female in various countries. Women control 56% of suffrage. Politicians write the laws women want or they don't get reelected.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 04:56 PM
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There are 3 solutions to feminism: Revolt Expat Turtle Quite simply: there is no political solution to feminism. Women control 56% of suffrage, women (strongly) and men (weakly) put women's issues above men's issues, men pay 75% of taxes, and women receive 80% of welfare. As long as those conditions exist, government will take more from men to give to women in order to buy women's votes ($2T/yr last I did the math). It's a win/win for government: they get (re)elected and government grows so they…
/r/MensRights05/03/24 04:52 PM
2

Why are we different? Might as well repeat what I said The difference is that women get pregnant and men don't. Being able to give birth is inherent value in being. This is the root of "Women are human beings, men are human doings." When you take that one step further, you realize that women are included by default while men are excluded by default. So that means each has an entirely opposite approach to remain in the tribe: men must accomplish and prove value to be included, while women must no…
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:31 PM
1

MRM itself is completely politically neutral The MRM is actually a right leaning movement. Everywhere outside of reddit it leans right, but on reddit with it's influx of egalitarians pretending to be MRAs it will lean left of center. Why on the right? Because the biggest issue men face is Bureaugamy: marriage of women to the state. And that issue is very much created by the left side of the political aisle. The problem is that men pay the majority of taxes (75%) while women receive the majority …
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:22 PM
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The difference is that women get pregnant and men don't. Being able to give birth is inherent value in being. This is the root of "Women are human beings, men are human doings." When you take that one step further, you realize that women are included by default while men are excluded by default. So that means each has an entirely opposite approach to remain in the tribe: men must accomplish and prove value to be included, while women must not to be much of a burden to offset their default inclus…
/r/MensRights27/02/24 05:33 PM
1

The Mojo Dojo world of the Ken's is just as superficial and comically pathetic as the Barbies plastic world. Yes, it is still comically pathetic... but it's functional and both Barbies and Kens are happy. Kens "mojo dojo" world is just their overcompensating for what they can't have and it's what makes them as bad as the barbies in many ways. Did you read what you wrote? Compare the Barbie lead world to the Ken lead world in your own writing. In the Ken world Barbies were happy and assisted when…
/r/MensRights10/01/24 02:08 PM
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The Barbie movie is anti-woman. No, hear me out. I actually watched the movie. The movie starts out with the Barbies in charge doing meaningless, unimportant shit and pretending that it means anything. The protagonist Ken is a bit of a doofus, but really just about out of touch as the protagonist Barbie. When the Kens rule, they are helpful. They are doing what they can to assist the Barbies. They are trying to make the Barbie's lives easier. The Barbies are happy and content. The Barbies become…
/r/MensRights10/01/24 03:09 AM
2

Trump used to be a democrat, switched to republican then fairly far right. If you watch some of Trump's interviews from the 80s and 90s, his viewpoints really haven't changed much. It's the Overton Window of politics that has shifted to the left widly.
/r/MensRights01/11/23 05:49 PM
2

I'll be the counterpoint: eventually you will have to decide between MRA and liberalism. Liberalism wants social safety nets, welfare, etc. They want to make sure that "everyone is taken care of" via government. When you realize that men pay 70% of taxes and women receive 80% of welfare ($2T/yr wealth transfer in the USA), you eventually have to choose between supporting men and supporting liberalism. Bureaugamy (marriage of women to the state) is really the #1 MRA issue, but liberal MRAs refuse…
/r/MensRights01/11/23 05:40 PM
1

but the originating state is ultimately responsible for both the legal marriage and divorce. That is completely false. You are 100% wrong. If that were the case, guys I knew, married in at-fault states, couldn't have their wives move to a no-fault state and have a no-fault divorce. I have no clue why you think it works the way you think it does, but that's not how it works.
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:08 AM
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In the states, the divorce must be filed in the state from which it originated. Originated, as in where you got married? That's completely not true. In other words, if you marry in Texas and your wife bails, she could file for divorce in a different state and force you to fly out to the court in which she filed, but Texas is ultimately responsible for that marriage. Seen far to many guys in the military get divorced to believe that, as the reality I've seen completely contradicts your assertion.…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 04:09 PM
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Whatever is determined now, through any source, doesn't matter. Marriage is a contract where the terms are decided by when and where it is dissolved rather than when and where it is signed. You could have 100 lawyers and 100 judges tell you today that it is not under duress, but if he gets divorced in a different state a day after they pass a law/have a ruling deciding those conditions are duress: that's what will matter.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:42 PM
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There have been cases of judges setting peoples child support payments at what they "think they should be able to earn" to stop men from daring to earn less. Which makes child support involuntary servitude, and therefore unconstitutional... but good luck getting that ruling.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 01:14 PM
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I believe women should have equal rights as men and vise versa. And we circle back to my first post: As usual, egalitarians totally forget about responsibilities. And we all know that men and women will never be held to the same level of disposability, so it's impossible to burden them with the same level of responsibility. Given that women will never have equal responsibility to men, giving them equal rights creates female supremacy. So, no... I do not advocate for female supremacy under the gu…
/r/MensRights11/05/23 04:12 PM
1

So you advocate for female superiority.
/r/MensRights08/05/23 04:42 PM
2

Found a screenshot of the actual stat I remembered, even if I can't find the study itself... and it's even more extreme: In upper body strength, the average man is stronger than 99.9% of women. https://utopiayouarestandinginit.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/img_20190715_134530279338574004013352.jpg?w=535
/r/MensRights03/05/23 06:31 PM
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It really is that extreme.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 05:24 PM
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She was totally dominated by a slightly weaker looking, fit, male athlete, who just had way better technique. You have to realize that the average man is stronger than 99% of women. As the man goes past average, you just increase the number of 9s.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:26 PM
1

to "patronize" protect women... Might makes Right; Numbers make Might; Women make Numbers. That's why all societies patronize women: it's in their best interest to do so.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:51 PM
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It's not a question of should, it's a question of can. There is no society, in any period of time, that has ever held women to the same level of responsibility as it holds men. So, given that, why should women have equal rights?
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:49 PM
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Are you saying women shouldn't have equal rights then? Can women be burdened with equal responsibilities? We all know that the answer to that question is no, so on what basis should women be given equal rights? Are women "more equal" than men are?
/r/MensRights01/05/23 03:07 PM
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I mean we don't want men to have more rights than women or women to have more rights than men. As usual, egalitarians totally forget about responsibilities. And we all know that men and women will never be held to the same level of disposability, so it's impossible to burden them with the same level of responsibility. Given that women will never have equal responsibility to men, giving them equal rights creates female supremacy. So, no... I do not advocate for female supremacy under the guise of…
/r/MensRights28/04/23 08:18 PM
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Very true, the west's welfare systems are effectively a Man Tax and transfer of wealth from men to women. To the tune of $2T/yr. No, I'm not kidding. 1/8th of the USA GDP is taken from men to be given to women at government gunpoint to buy women's votes.
/r/MensRights12/04/23 04:23 AM
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TN Just passed a law banning child transitions and restricted drag shows to adult-only locations. Next day a transgender shoots up a Christian school. Motive is not hard to figure out.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 11:30 AM
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And this will be buried as an "isolated incident" and "not the same" Weren't the last 4-5 major shootings done by trannies/non-binaries?
/r/MensRights28/03/23 11:26 AM
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I read this as, “Any actions that you take (even if that act is avoidance) that is done because of a persons race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender is discrimination.“ So any company sponsored women-only groups are now discrimination. Make them play by their own rules.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 03:49 PM
1

https://thegreatericarchive.wordpress.com/2006/07/25/monkeys-learn-to-use-money-invent-prostitution/ Capuchins in this experiment. And for the record, we're far closer to chimpanzees than Bonobos.
/r/MensRights15/04/22 02:57 PM
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What money was stolen? What did I miss here? In the teaching money to monkeys experiment you claimed to know about. But I guess you were just talking out of your ass like everything else you've said. the very PURPOSE of prostitution is to NOT have a mate. Speaking of non-sequiturs, this is about who women reward with sex, and thereby how that shapes the men of the society. Again, man... quit digging. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about and are just repeating talking point…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 02:52 PM
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No, you don’t. Not even close. Bonobos, for example. Our closest cousins in this respect are the bonobos And you think, given that experiment, the bonobos were choosing leaders and alpha males? I love it when people think they are arguing against me and actually proving my point: Who do you think stole the money, you fucking moron! Good, now that you've defeated your entire argument, accept defeat and quit digging. Go home and get pats on the head from your feminist wife for defending the intern…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 02:43 PM
1

You're starting at the wrong spot. You need to begin at the beginning--before marriage. I have found there is a large group of people in the world who only see effect, and don't understand cause and effect.
/r/MensRights15/04/22 02:07 PM
1

Here we go. Greek letter theory. If it shoe fits, it might be the wrong design, but it still fits. Hypergamy is indeed a long term cultural artifact that will probably take some time to get over, Except you watch it in every animal species. I guess us humans have infiltrated the minds of deer. I guess monkeys invented prostitution because it was humans running the experiment teaching monkeys about money! So I'll dismiss the rest of your personal experience and ad-hominem with observing the rest …
/r/MensRights15/04/22 02:06 PM
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Women have always been attracted to the leader, the alpha, and even the rogue bad guy. Always. It's just that before women's suffrage changed our government to the point where women could get men's resources from men without having to keep the man's commitment by pleasing him, these men were big risks for the woman to pursue. Sure, the alpha guy would fuck her, but would he stick around to support her children? As such, the woman's rational brains would temper these drives and impulses such that…
/r/MensRights15/04/22 05:47 AM
1

And what kind of woman would reward him with sex if she knew that she was stuck with him for life via marriage if she wanted the kids she bore to be supported?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 10:24 PM
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Well I'm sorry your dad was a piece of shit. But what your advocating for makes more kids in your shitty situation because you are focusing on the effects rather than the causes.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 09:58 PM
1

Stable FAMILIES are the bedrock of society. That is not the same thing, necessarily, as stable marriages. And that's why intact families are so much higher under no-fault divorce, right?
/r/MensRights14/04/22 08:08 PM
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How can the women say the divorce is "no fault" when she throws her husband out, then at the same time demands huge monthly payments for herself and the kids My running snark is that women get divorces, men don't. Because women get their marital obligations severed, but men don't.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 12:56 PM
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It's not good news. Stable marriage is the bedrock of society.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 12:54 PM
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"Alopecia" is now the buzz word Yep. Right when Pfizer developed a new Alopecia drug. Oh, and right after Pfizer sponsored the Oscars. Clearly WS has unresolved issues and resorted to violence My running joke before I discovered the Pfizer connection was: Will Smith slapped Chris Rock because he can't slap his wife's boyfriends.
/r/MensRights31/03/22 01:47 PM
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It should be optional for people to choose. You chose when you voted. Any foreign policy requires the threat of war. Even economic sanctions require the threat of violence to enact. So when who you voted for directs the country into conflict, those with the vote are beholden to the draft to enforce the will of the country. Rights come with responsibilities. The real question is why some classes of people get the rights without the responsibilities.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 04:31 PM
3

They have equal rights. They just don't want equal responsibilities.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 04:03 PM
5

Oh no. Feminism is all about equal rights. It just rejects equal responsibilities.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 03:55 PM
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There are no feminists in a burning building.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 03:24 PM
7

I did read a few years ago that intimate partner homicides were equal between men and women around the 1970s, but something unknown happened since then to skew the statistic toward female victims. Domestic violence laws changed. A wife no longer had to kill her husband to render him powerless and remove him from her life, she could call the cops pretending to be afraid and they'd do it for her.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:54 PM
0

starting with the implication that I am not a true MRA as I see the movement as progressive Never said that. All I even implied is that you will be ineffective. But I do promise you there will be a day where you'll have to decide if MRA or progressive is more important to you, because they will come into conflict. Without gender roles, men become persons and women become persons (plus reproduction). You're already seeing the effects of this: men are becoming "lesser/broken women" rather than a c…
/r/MensRights13/01/22 04:49 PM
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also do you have anything relating to gender wise voter behavior ? http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf I also had a study about similar issues in Switzerland when they finally allowed women's suffrage (1971), but Springerlink changed to springer and I'm unable to find it now. Do women and men perceive government differently? Quite differently. Men want government to serve them by allowing men to keep more of their own money/efforts. Women want government to serve th…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 02:01 PM
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that MRM is conservative I said a true MRM movement is conservative. There are plenty of egalitarians in the MRM who haven't yet realized that the strive towards an impossible equality is what has caused many of the governmental problems the MRM faces. Because pretty much all MRM problems have to do with the constraints of the male gender role for those men who do not instinctively embrace it. And that's where I feel you're quite incorrect. Male DV and sexual assault victims? Before government h…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 01:52 PM
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This is because they see womens liberation as less harmful than mens. Freeing men from gender roles is instant social suicide. Freeing women from gender roles is also social suicide, but it happens over a long enough timeline that most miss the connection. Mens rights as an idea is anything but conservative Despite what everyone else will tell you, a true MRM is deeply conservative. Because.. well you've already got half the equation: we can't remove gender roles and still have a successful soci…
/r/MensRights12/01/22 03:09 AM
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It's really simple: Find the voting age in your country. Find the demographics of those who are the voting age or older. Realize that the majority of that group are women.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 02:47 AM
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Generalizations exist because there is an element of truth to them. If there was no element of truth, they wouldn't stick. A bigot thinks there are no exceptions. An idiot thinks everyone is an exception. I am neither. And I resent the destruction of discussion because too many people are idiots.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 04:23 PM
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Men and women are different I dare say, even complementary.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 05:30 PM
1

What would happen? Civilization would come crashing down. https://femoid.com/what-would-happen-if-no-men-showed-up-for-work/ No power, no water, no travel, no police, no firefighters, no sanitation, no banking, no radio even.... Have fun.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 04:43 PM
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Traditionally, men served society by providing violence for it's defense. Societies force this via conscription when it is necessary to defend the society due to the direction it's voters have pointed it. The problem is that we can't draft women to war: they're not good at it, can't be made good at it nearly as well as men, and can always avoid it by getting pregnant. Traditionally, women serve society by giving birth to the next generation. Currently, no society forces this service via a "womb …
/r/MensRights26/11/20 03:06 AM
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Smashing rebuttal.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 03:02 AM
0

The collective you put them in power. The collective you holds the responsibility for that.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 03:01 AM
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That's not the right question. The right question is: why do they get the vote without responsibilities?
/r/MensRights26/11/20 02:58 AM
1

Because most countries rely on either the USA or Russia to be their defenders.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 09:25 PM
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Conscription is the responsibility which is corollary to the right of suffrage. If you want the right to direct government potentially into conflict with other governments, you bear the responsibility of being forced to defend the government.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 09:20 PM
1

Jonathan Haidt has said you don't see early civilizations without temples. Of course not. Humans are a tribal species. You don't get past the Dunbar number without an artificial expansion of the tribe. In human history we've found two things that seem to work pretty well: religion and nationalism. I find it very interesting that both are considered "wrong" now.
/r/MensRights13/08/20 06:44 PM
1

Well, when women control 56% of the vote....
/r/MensRights13/08/20 04:13 PM
1

Women are human beings, men are human doings. Basically, that men and women have different reproductive strategies. A man needs to prove value by his accomplishments to be accepted, while a women needs to not rock the boat too much to be accepted. Women have intrinsic value (wombs) while men don't. to undo hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of years of evolutionary psychology. Here's a scary thought: do we even want this end goal? Like I've said before: it's men competing for women which dr…
/r/MensRights13/08/20 04:06 PM
1

It's an engine. I'm curious about your thoughts on this. At what level do you see the engine? What is the engine doing? Where is it headed? I've often compared women in the workforce to NoX to the economic engine of the company: There's short term gains (more workers, lower wages, more competition for jobs) but long term damage (women-friendly workplaces that focus on things other than advancing the company, internal strife, sexual harassment rules, moving from sandbox to swingset).
/r/MensRights13/08/20 02:33 PM
0

Problem is, we're Americans. We have represenatives who represent our wishes rather than a government that rules over us to keep us safe from ourselves. And if we make such bad decisions we needed to be kept safe form ourselves, what business do we have electing anyone?
/r/MensRights09/08/20 12:04 PM
1

Tell you what: find three (3) examples of "cis het men" which are not derogatory towards those men and then maybe perhaps I'll start buying your bullshit.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:07 PM
1

In this context she's specifically talking about cit het men as opposed to homo, bi, asexual, or trans men, so it does make sense. Exactly. She's trying to other straight non-transgender men. Took you long enough to finally agree with me.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 03:02 PM
1

You're not getting it, unless you really think a trait being "normal" means it shouldn't have a term to describe it. No, I think that you don't use the term to describe normal people unless you are attempting to other them. When comparing straight men to gay men, that makes sense. When stating "don't want to spoil a cis het man" is making an attempt to other normal men.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 07:41 AM
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No, it's really not. The "pendulum" idea is based on the erroneous belief that women were previously oppressed and now are swinging past equality. That's not the case at all. Women were, and still are, the protected class. Previously, women were protected by restricting their rights such that they couldn't get into bad situations (removing their choice). Currently, women are protected by absolving them from the consequences of their bad choices (removing their agency). There is no swing, there's…
/r/MensRights07/08/20 07:18 AM
1

No, because neither blue nor brown is 70+% of the population. Because of that, there is no "normal" eye color. You're intentionally not getting it.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 05:31 AM
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When it's 50/50 or even 70/30, descriptors matter. When it's 95/5, the 95 is "normal" and the others need descriptors.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 04:25 AM
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This kind of shows that generally, we have collectively internalized a pretty bad bias that prefers women over men. Yep, we have. And that, among many other reasons, is why seeking equality leads to female supremacy.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 04:22 AM
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It's partially because of historical oppression of women Historical protection of women. Older societies protected women by restricting their rights to prevent them from getting themselves into bad situations. Progressive societies protect women by absolving them of the consequences of their choices.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 06:24 PM
1

We're (as a society) learning that appeasement doesn't work.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 06:21 PM
0

Yeah, why do you need descriptors to say "the same as 95+% of men"
/r/MensRights06/08/20 06:17 PM
31

But.. wait... I thought men and women were the same? "... Well they are, except for the ways in which women are better"
/r/MensRights06/08/20 06:15 PM
17

One of my favorite sayings; there are 2 types of feminists: Those who hate men. Those who say "not all feminists" when people points to the man-haters. The ones who actually attempted to fight the man-haters and got shot down so hard by #1 and #2 that they no longer call themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights05/08/20 02:02 PM
4

Woman didn’t always have equal rights Correct. Because they didn't, and still don't, have equal responsibilities.
/r/MensRights05/08/20 01:56 PM
1

And women shedding their gender roles, their duties to society, are going to bring about society's downfall. Men shedding theirs would kill society as well, just fast enough that everyone would make the connection and see it coming (which is why everyone resists men shedding their roles). Women do the same, just slow enough that few make the connection.
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:10 AM
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I've phrased it as "strict equality is equal rights, equal responsibilities, and equal disposability." So you're pretty much on the mark. Step 2 in your journey is to imagine a world where men and women receive equal protection. How would that work? What would it look like? How well would it compete with other societies? How does it account for the biological differences between men and women? How does it get society to accept equal protection (or lack thereof) of men and women?
/r/MensRights29/07/20 04:15 PM
1

Except that article is completely wrong. Tradcons believe in gender roles for both men AND women. This idea that men are stuck in a gender role while women are free from theirs is a feminist/liberal idea.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 04:10 PM
2

Get them to site their sources. The funnest fact is the 77% pay gap and the 74% hours gap are from the same study: Bureau of Labor.
/r/MensRights15/07/20 07:40 PM
2

Yep, and that overtime is included in "full time workers" which the 77% statistic comes from. So men are working far more time and a half compensated hours and yet women still get more overall compensation per hour worked than men do when we measure yearly compensation by hour worked. So the "wage gap" is actually in women's favor when you look at the whole picture past just one statistic. That's why I treat it like exposing a secret... "Are you sure you want to talk about that?" because the tru…
/r/MensRights15/07/20 07:32 PM
1

Yes women have a lower median wage The sad part is they actually don't. Wage is money per hour. The average woman earns 77% of what the average man earns per year, but the average woman also only works 74% of the hours the average man works per year. That's why whenever some idiot starts talking about the wage gap as if it were discrimination against women, I respond like they're exposing a secret that women are actually overpaid compared to men.
/r/MensRights15/07/20 03:14 PM
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because men sometimes cheat on women too. Yep, they do. But when men cheat, they are shamed. When women cheat, they are celebrated. That's how this has to do with men's issues.
/r/MensRights15/07/20 02:56 PM
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I know people joke about this a lot, but the truth of the matter is that men pay most of the taxes and women receive most of the welfare in every first world nation.
/r/MensRights10/07/20 03:49 AM
2

There was a thread in Coronavirus discussing a study on how men were more rebellious and bucked authority (painted as a bad thing because they defied government orders). That could be turned around to say women were more docile and compliant... but we we all know how that would be portrayed.
/r/MensRights12/06/20 09:07 AM
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It's fair, but it's wildly inaccurate. Men pay 75% of taxes. women receive 80% of government welfare. Collectively, men ARE poverty eradication plans for women. Equality has a price. The equality of allowing women to control 56% of suffrage by demographics has resulted in a $2T/yr wealth transfer from men to women.
/r/MensRights12/06/20 09:01 AM
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Feminism used to be about equal rights But they always rejected equal responsibility. First wave: We want men's rights! (but we reject men's responsibilities). Second wave: We reject women's duties to society! Third wave: Men should be responsible for women's choices! Feminism has always been an anti-male hate movement.
/r/MensRights31/05/20 03:48 AM
1

They literally want equity, which means rebalancing to compensate for perceived inequity. But that's the opposite of the economic term, where equity means to get rewards proportional to effort/contribution. e.g. if I contribute $5k and you contribute $10k and the endeavor makes $30k of profit, I get 10 and you get 20. They are inverting the meaning of the word and the world has accepted it.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 06:16 PM
1

true goal of feminism is equity I'm so very surprised that the SJW movement has taken the economic term "equity" and twisted it to mean the exact opposite of what it means.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 03:18 PM
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How do we go back to facts above feelings thought process ? As long as women control 56% of suffrage, we can't. They'll cry and scream about how they are itty bitty little girls who can't do anything and need help doing everything.... yet are completely men's equals.... and politicians will eat that bullshit up with a smile as it gets them (re-)elected.
/r/MensRights27/05/20 05:36 PM
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Of course. Because society still rides on men's backs. If we free men from the universal standard of manhood that exists in every society: "Produce more than you consume"... then society collapses overnight. It's really that simple. Men are judged on what they provide because someone has to keep providing and we've freed women from their natural roles which provided for society. Now, the real question is: why have we given women a free pass? Why are they exempt from providing for society in thei…
/r/MensRights27/05/20 05:01 PM
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black people can use the n-word but other race people can’t That's racist, just FYI.
/r/MensRights26/05/20 05:18 PM
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I get what you mean, but it always burns me up that feminists/idiots push out MKL as the example of a harsh sentence on a woman. Everyone glosses over the first conviction like it never happened and treats the second sentence as the first one. And then fucking Dateline NBC (the same show that hosted "To Catch a Predator") did a special on MKL... "A Love Like No Other" Her case and all the bullshit around it is a particular aggravation for me.
/r/MensRights21/04/20 03:38 PM
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She didn't even find the exception. I followed the Mary Kay case. Mary was given a suspended sentence. She could have served ZERO jail time. It's only because she was caught statutorily raping her male student AFTER HER FIRST TRIAL that she got 7 years behind jail... for her second conviction of statutory rape. Confirming my memory with wikipedia: Mary Katherine Schmitz (formerly Letourneau; January 30, 1962) is an American former schoolteacher who pleaded guilty in 1997 to two counts of felony …
/r/MensRights21/04/20 02:58 PM
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Is society institutionally racist toward white people? Not really. And yet government grants are guarenteed to minority-owned businesses. Business have quotas for non-white employees, but no quota for white employees. I think it's white people who are institutionally discriminated against.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 05:21 PM
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She claimed they cannot experience sexism because “you can’t oppress the oppressor” and that women can’t benefit from sexism the same way a man can In every first world nation, women hold the majority of suffrage. By her definition, it would be men who can't benefit from sexism the way women can.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 05:17 PM
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You jest, but Biden was found "not guilty by reason of Democrat"
/r/MensRights15/04/20 06:05 AM
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I've had this discussion a number of times. Here's a collection of some of those arguments: The first thing to remember is that feminism was never and likely will never be a movement for equality. It was a movement for, in it's most pure form, equal rights for women. But equal rights alone is not equality, as it ignores the burdens of equal responsibility. And remember this point, as we'll return to it again. But for right now, let's look at modern feminism: 1) Please enumerate any government-gr…
/r/MensRights15/04/20 06:01 AM
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My experience is that most women want equal rights. Name any government-granted right men have which women don't have in equal or greater measure. Name any government-enforced responsibility women endure which men don't endure in equal or greater measure. Switch the genders on the two questions. Notice that the gender-swapped examples have tons of answers while the originals had virtually none. Next time you meet a woman wanting "equal rights", laugh.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 05:46 AM
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I've heard of a 4th wave, but I don't see it doing anything different than the 3rd wave. It's still about increasing men's responsibilities to women. There is a no real difference between "protect us from ourselves and our shitty decisions" (3rd wave) and "step down from positions of power so women can have them" (supposed 4th wave) as both are demands for men to owe more to women.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 05:40 AM
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That's a fair enough question. Here's an example. As I described in the Times-Dispatch, parents also sometimes get jailed for not paying child support that they are simply unable to pay. In theory, the inability to pay is a defense to being jailed, but noncustodial parents facing jail typically do not have a lawyer or understand the rules of evidence. Courts often fail to accord them even the minimal due-process safeguards mandated by the Supreme Court’s decision in Turner v. Rogers. Some court …
/r/MensRights08/04/20 02:39 PM
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If the woman is looking after the child it makes sense that she would not have time to work to provide for the child. Well she should have though of that before she had sex, no? Damnit, there I go treating women as equally as we treat men today. In cases where the parent is out of work, they do not go to jail. Bullshit. Lurk more and learn reality does not meet your "just world fallacy". Sentences are only handed out for people that willfully ignore court orders, despite having the resources to …
/r/MensRights08/04/20 12:15 AM
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Why not? Let's give them all of those things if the mother can't supply them. And we'll do so by placing the kids in foster/adoption care and the mother in jail for failing to support her children. And before you turn your nose at how "evil" that is, the above is basically what we do to non-custodial fathers today.
/r/MensRights08/04/20 12:06 AM
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I never said equality is detrimental, just it is not possible. I believe it is detrimental. Under equality, men become "Persons" and women become "Persons (plus reproduction)". Additionally, the environment competition between men and women, rather than one of complementary roles, destroys the foundations of society which make it work in the first place.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 05:54 PM
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That's the problem. Equality is impossible and seeking it is detrimental to men and society. So we have to start looking for other solutions. Hrm, natural gender roles seems to have a track record of working for thousands of years.....
/r/MensRights07/04/20 03:29 PM
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Failure to sign up for selective service is a felony. In most states, a felony removes suffrage.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:15 PM
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Then the voters get to decide if they want to continue all the benefits to single mothers.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:10 PM
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I understand, I just found that article this morning and thought you might be interested as well.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 02:03 PM
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As horrible as that stance is, I don't even think that's the worst bullshit the Dem's have pulled lately. That, combined with the same-day registration requirement in the house bill means your vote means nothing.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:43 PM
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They'll never do that. Imagine the number of Welfare, TANF, Section 8, and other government welfare workers which would become unemployed if they replaced those systems with UBI.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:37 PM
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But I find the claim to minority status dubious since women account for 51 percent of voters In the USA, women account for 56% of voters, FYI. I ran the numbers here.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:33 PM
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I think his numbers are off (from my own research), but the numbers are still shocking: Men pay 75% of taxes, women receive 80% of welfare. Put the two together and look at USA and that ends up being $2T/yr transfer of wealth from men to women at the federal level alone. That's 1/8th of the USA GDP. That means at least 20% of every dollar a man makes is taken from him to be given to women. His number might include other indirect and non-forced transfer of wealth (e.g. the idea that women control…
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:30 PM
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Jebus, dude... that's not event the worst part of the house bill: https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/03/23/pelosi-stimulus-bill-imposes-nationwide-ballot-harvesting-without-any-limit/ Image of top of article
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:20 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 12:15 PM
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ETA: Other post has been reinstated. Please use it. Making post with source since https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/fnqfi9/democrats_add_antiwhite_male_identity_politics/ was removed. Short form: Here
/r/MensRights24/03/20 07:03 AM
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Of course not. Admitting that men are on the bottom would reduce women's victim power.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 12:26 PM
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The answer is simple: when you are looking for the best you will find more men than women. Men's bell curves are flatter than women's, so the top of anything is predominantly men.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 05:46 AM
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WTF That is from 2014 You think that's bad? There used to be a site (dvstats.org) which contained 30 years of research studies showing women were equally or more aggressive in every Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) study. That site went down near 10 years ago. We've known this for 40 years. ETA: Here is the "replacement" for dvstats.org as it contains many of the studies that the site allowed you to search. Notice that some of the studies in that bibliography date from 1979. Like I said: we've known…
/r/MensRights11/03/20 10:13 PM
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Anyone here have stats on how many women are killed by domestic violence vs men who are? This is an interesting question, because history matters as much as the answer. Answer: Far more women are killed by their partners than men are killed by their partners. History: The two rates used to be quite similar with women killed by partners having only a slight lead. Society pointed to the number of women killed in DV and laws were enacted to protect women from DV. After those laws passed, men killed…
/r/MensRights11/03/20 10:07 PM
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I disagree. I like the sun up that late.
/r/MensRights09/03/20 05:01 PM
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When they get rid of it, I'd like them to leave us on the DST adjustment rather than the standard time.
/r/MensRights09/03/20 04:15 PM
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Depends on the insane definition of racist or sexist in use.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 06:17 PM
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Whatever, snowflake.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 05:29 PM
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2 to 3 years does sound a lot longer then it actually feels thats for sure. Id think after 3 years though, youre probably at terms with the decision as is. What I'm attempting to point out is that it's absolutely not a temporary form of birth control. A vasectomy isn't something you can get in your early 20's and the reverse when you're near 30 to start a family. I'm really looking forward to RISUG / Vasalgel. They last for 10 years and are completely reversible.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 05:55 AM
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Null sweat. It's one of those things that can lead you to "where does that number come from?" but once it's explained it's dead obvious.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 05:52 AM
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here any studies you can link to support that? Just need logic. 2 children per couple is bare minimum for replacement. When you account for those who die before reproduction, the replacement rate varies from 2.1 to 2.4 depending on youth mortality.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 03:06 AM
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Once you've had one for 2-3 years, the reversibility rate drops like a lead balloon. That's not a very long time.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 03:04 AM
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It's long past time our government started treating social media that does this as publishers rather than platforms.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 02:51 AM
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More trans people don't deserve rights from what I saw of it. I'm so sick of the trans bullshit. What rights to they need that they don't have, which aren't absolute violations of everyone else's rights?
/r/MensRights08/03/20 02:50 AM
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I think the only difference bigger than "male or female" is "alive or dead". There is no equality to be found between men and women. They are biologically engineered for separate goals. Men are the experiments to test the environment and women are the safe (closer to mean) reproductive capacity. As successful males mate with the majority of the females, the overall genetics of the species shifts towards current optimum for the environment. This process is the big advantage of a two sexed species…
/r/MensRights07/03/20 10:36 PM
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While researching to reply to a post here, I ran across this and thought you might be interested: http://theconversation.com/not-just-about-sex-throughout-our-bodies-thousands-of-genes-act-differently-in-men-and-women-86613
/r/MensRights07/03/20 10:20 PM
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So this theory states that the Y chromosome is responsible for most genetic variation? Not quite. It's not genetic variation, it's expression variation. The lack of a second X chromosome lessens the chances of having checksums to regulate the expression. I can't find the article I read. It's a shame because it was a really good article. But I have found both pieces of the puzzle in two different articles: X chromosome linked to intelligence differences Some genes on the X chromosome escaping X i…
/r/MensRights07/03/20 10:13 PM
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It’s unclear to this point as to why males are represented to a higher degree at both ends of the IQ spectrum. It's because mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing. It's not just IQ where men vary more than women, it's every measurable physiological trait. Leading theory at this time is that the X chromosome contains checksum genes to prevent "out of bounds" expression, and said genes are not shut down by X inactivation.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 09:31 PM
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"Yes, patriarchy existed. Men as head of household is what created civilization. Why do you want men to apologize for creating civilization?"
/r/MensRights07/03/20 03:54 PM
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Sarah Palin Look up the hate she got.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:05 PM
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Get woke, go broke. The same will apply to Sanders Sanders isn't a candidate. He's just running so he can funnel his campaign money to his media company to afford his 4-5-6th house.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 03:23 PM
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should a woman who slaps you in the face once become your mutual combatant Once you've started a physical fight, you've started a physical fight! Or are women not adults with full control of themselves? Are they not fully responsible for their actions?
/r/MensRights06/03/20 03:05 PM
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The answer is simple: If you are intimidated by someone standing while talking to you then you have psychological issues and are not fit for the workplace. If you don't have the ability to tell someone you don't want to talk, then you have psychological issues and are not fit for the workplace.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:54 AM
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If a 5'2" 120 lb man came up and slapped a 6'5" 220 lb man, would anyone complain with that smaller guy got the piss beat out of him? Women are supposedly a rational human beings too. They should know that starting a physical fight with someone much larger will be bad for them.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:42 AM
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If you hit a woman because it pisses you off that she slapped you, you are RETALIATING, not engaging in self defense Wrong. You mess with the bull, you get the horns. Just because you slapped someone twice your size doesn't mean that you haven't started a physical fight.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:25 AM
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I won’t buy Gillette, but what (other than that) IS the best a man can get? A beard. If you can't grow one, try the old butterfly safety razor. They're similar to shaving with the modern disposables (a straight razor takes a different technique). They're also cheep as heck at a penny or two a blade.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:18 AM
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I hope someday we will have a system where this won't happen to anybody, no matter their sex. Remember, two wrongs don't make a right. I agree. This shouldn't happen to anyone. On the other hand, this won't be fixed until enough women feel the pain.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:14 AM
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Except it's not. It's been removed.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 12:21 AM
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If you don't like it, you're free to start your own movement.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:42 PM
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It is. But fixing the legal bullshit will help wonders with that. Suicide for boys is higher than it is for girls, but it's not until the man is divorced that the rate skyrockets.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:39 PM
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Hardly. The supreme majority of issues men face are due to rights issues. Additionally, those are the important ones. Like I said before, take your feels > reals disease elsewhere.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:36 PM
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The way I read that, it looks like the accused is the one hooked up to the lie detector. Otherwise, why worry about the age of the accused?
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:30 PM
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We're not advocating for men to be whatever they want, whenever they want. That's not the point of this movement. The point of this movement is to end government discrimination against men. That's it. That's the scope and focus of the MRA. That's how the MRA stays on target. If you want to subvert it for your own personal goals, no. Go elsewhere and start your own movement.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:27 PM
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That's your problem. This isn't a men's advocacy movement. This is the men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:22 PM
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No. Don't bring your disease into this. This is the Mens Rights movement This has to do with Rights, not the made up social bullshit you think it does.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 10:03 PM
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And more men like to shoot guns than women do. so we should have posts here talking about ammo prices?
/r/MensRights05/03/20 09:42 PM
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No, it isn't. They're banning conversion therapy. How does that affect homosexual women and homosexual men differently?
/r/MensRights05/03/20 08:57 PM
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But they're not affected on the basis of them being men, but rather because they are gay or trans, which is why it doesn't belong here.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 08:51 PM
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No. This isn't the banning of converting a boy/girl to the other body. This is "conversion therapy" which is convincing gay boys / lesbian girls that they are not gay or lesbian. In any case, still not a MR issue.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 06:40 PM
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This is the Men's Rights reddit, not the trans rights reddit. This doesn't belong here.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 06:11 PM
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This is the first time that I've seen this. I've always thought that the earning is 0.77 for each 1 per hour. It's never been that. That is the lie that everyone repeats, but the BLS only ever looks at total earnings per year without compensating for hours worked, education, job title, experience.... anything other than total pay.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 06:02 PM
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Psychology major here. There is no reliable scientific evidence that specific psychobehavioral outcomes have some particular, consistent genetic basis. Well, since your university is not educating you, allow me to do so.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 10:51 AM
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One more thing. I don't think we have to worry about the people who can make more people because there are already 7.5 billion people on Earth. Until everyone is in a circle singing Kumbaya, total population of the Earth means jack shit.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 10:47 AM
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Let me elaborate; what I mean is that there is never really any actual challenge to the actual traditional male role at all. Well of course not. Somebody has to pay all the taxes they use to bribe women's votes!
/r/MensRights04/03/20 08:33 AM
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I work in an team with groups from various countries. Lead from one of those groups sent out an email that said group is taking March 9th off because Women's day is a national holiday in that country (on a Sunday, getting the Monday off). Several women from other teams (not in said country) were doing the usual "woot" thing and stating that said country was correct and they were also going to take 3/9 off as well. Several people were in the reply-all chain and it was all lighthearted so no big d…
/r/MensRights04/03/20 08:25 AM
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It's also not a rights issue. Bureaugamy is the #1 MRM issue. And that issue is caused by women using government to take from men to give to women.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 08:02 AM
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First of all, a twitter survey tends to lend itself to certain demographics. And the type of women who may follow this particular lady narrows the sample even further. You're not getting an honest reflection of society. The problem is: we are. But you are correct that we need to look outside of twitter to provide evidence. Since women's suffrage, government has increased 2000% relative to GDP. Men pay 75% of the taxes, women receive 80% of the social welfare. How was this accomplished? Women con…
/r/MensRights04/03/20 08:01 AM
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I know of numerous highly educated women (some with Ivy League degrees). The higher the level of education, the more likely the woman is to drop out of the full time workforce by 10 years after graduation. The overall rate for college educated women is 50%.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 07:47 AM
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Some people are more equal than others.... It's like they never read Animal Farm
/r/MensRights04/03/20 07:40 AM
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A lot of this shit is from California law: any bathroom that only has one toilet and has a lock must be declared gender neutral (urinals don't count as toilets). This gay coffeehouse decided to do the non-normal and declared the bathroom with 2 toilets (typically the woman's room) to be the men's room. Probably because they get more male customers than female customers.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 03:25 PM
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Wow, back to slinging bullshit again? Go away, kid. Throw your tantrum elsewhere.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 07:23 AM
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Women are not 56% of the adults Correct. They're just under 52% of adults in the USA. But as far as suffrage goes, they control 56% of the vote. I've done the math.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 02:52 AM
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If you really thought that, you'd point out which ones you disagree with. Instead, you're just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Be quiet, the adults are talking now.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 01:55 AM
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Why is so? Are men simply incapable of empathy toward their own gender? There's a number of factors which all combine against the acceptance of men's rights: Both men (weakly) and women (strongly) have greater concern for women's issues over men's issues. Women have inherent value to society by being the wombs to give birth to the next generation. Men gain value by what they do and accomplish. This is usually stated as "Women are human beings; men are human doings." Something around 80% of discr…
/r/MensRights25/02/20 03:32 PM
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Many have long term boyfriends that they marry soon after their youngest turns 18. In some states, that doesn't even matter. Hell, let me tell you the story of my cousin. He had a kid with a woman. He pays child support. She later got married. The courts magically treated her income separate from her husband's so his child support didn't go down even though her husband made twice what she did. Few years later she has kids with the new husband and his child support goes up! Why? Because due to th…
/r/MensRights15/02/20 07:56 AM
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But......why? Simple: because women control 56% of the vote and they like getting men's money via government gunpoint.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 07:50 AM
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If "being a man" means whatever you want it to mean, it doesn't mean anything. So don't listen to that bullshit. Throughout history, in just about every culture, there has been two criteria for "manhood": Produce more than you consume. Have a capacity for violence. Being gay isn't an automatic disqualification under either criteria. Being feminine usually means disqualification under the 2nd criteria.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 08:43 AM
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If your only argument is shaming language, then you are a person who came to your opinions by being shamed into having them. And from that, I know the quality of your opinions: they're worthless.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 09:15 PM
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Obviously immigration will have an effect One hell of an effect. From your source: "In August 2018, SVT reported that rape statistics in About 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad. The Mission Investigation programme, due to be broadcast on Wednesday by SVT, said the total number of offenders over five years was 843. Of those, 197 were from the Middle East and North Africa, with 45 coming from Afghanistan."
/r/MensRights12/02/20 03:16 PM
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The rise is the consequence of feminism: ruling by emotions rather than logic and reason. They imported certain cultures known for their poor treatment of women and were shocked... positively shocked... when those cultures treated women poorly.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 03:41 AM
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Yes, your emotions are so much more important than facts and figures. And don't even bother. I can't be shamed into holding the same position as you. I actually use my brain rather than fear the judgement of others.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 03:39 AM
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I figured the methodology changed long before the importation.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 07:55 PM
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Sweden rape stats collecting methology leads to an overcounting so is misleading Or simply that the rate rape in Sweden jumped after importing a ton of "cultural enrichment"
/r/MensRights11/02/20 06:49 PM
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Women's rights that men don't have, granted by law: A commission on the status of women in every state, funded by taxpayer dollars (men only have one, in NH, and it is unfunded). Tax benefits for being a "woman-owned business" Government contracts guaranteed to women-owned (and minority owned) businesses. Violence Against Women Act. IMBRA Full rights to their own born children. Men only get rights to their children when granted by the courts or by the legal precedent of marriage to the mother. A…
/r/MensRights06/02/20 03:53 AM
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That was my thought: If we're so dangerous, why are you making your best efforts to piss us off? Are you stupid?
/r/MensRights22/01/20 03:54 PM
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We are already there: Men pay 75% of taxes. Women recieve 80% of government welfare. USA Government transfers $2T/yr from men to women.
/r/MensRights20/01/20 05:55 PM
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Came here to mention this. If it gets passed with the Hayden Rider, it's revolution worthy. I will not be a second class citizen in a country that rides on my back.
/r/MensRights17/01/20 04:37 PM
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It's one of the largest physical sexual dimorphisms that exist. Only grip strength is similarly large. And there's an even more important sexual dimorphism at play: standard deviations. Male standard deviations are larger than female standard deviations for every measurable trait. Simply put, mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing. Let's use an example of ability "Widget Making" (I'm using non-researched made up numbers so let's use a made up ability) …
/r/MensRights20/12/19 06:06 AM
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It's staged. I ain't even mad. That's impressive.
/r/MensRights18/12/19 07:46 PM
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I was coming in to say pretty much the same thing. Another big change of the later 70's was the beginning of domestic violence laws that enabled wives to eject their husbands from the house and their lives without risking murder charges.
/r/MensRights06/12/19 04:43 PM
1

It's pretty crude to divide sports by gender anyway Until you see 15 year old boys beating women's world records for track and field....
/r/MensRights05/12/19 04:40 PM
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That's because the men's competition is the open division where the best of the best complete. Women's sports is the first special olympics (restricted division). The division is restricted so that groups of people who would have no chance of victory in the open division have a chance to earn victory. If we allow biological men to enter and dominate women's special olympics, why have this restricted division created to allow women a chance at victory at all?
/r/MensRights04/12/19 09:00 PM
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Bingo. I've worked in all male environments. The amount of openness is amazing when you have any level of trust in the group. Insert one woman and the entire dynamic changes.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 10:52 PM
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It is in his SECOND I'll give you that much. Which would be... his first reply to me? And, yeah, he did tell me to fuck off, in a very masculine way, while saying masculinity wasn't important. That didn't bother me, but his lack of introspection confused the hell outta me.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 04:00 PM
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Please. Paste them. I'm gonna have so much fun with this.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 03:09 PM
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also, he never said that in yours and his thread. It's his first reply to me, you blooming idiot! Wow, you honestly are that stupid...
/r/MensRights27/11/19 02:59 PM
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I'm find it not credible that in between growing crops, fending off indian attacks and mending horse shoes, men were also in charge of childcare. Fathers were. Because as soon as kids could walk and talk, they were helping their fathers tend the fields, shoe the horses, and even sometimes fight the Indians. Before very recently (less than the last 100 years when urban living finally beat out rural living) kids were the labor pool. And labor pool often went with dad to get the job done. What were…
/r/MensRights27/11/19 09:06 AM
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Nothing he said was violent. Fuck off, snowflake. You don't get to lie to my face and keep any respect. What part of "Don't just assume [...] they won't ram your teeth down your throat." doesn't indicate a capacity for violence? Now say "Ok boomer" because you know you've lost the argument... again.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 07:21 AM
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There are two traits to masculinity that are universal across all societies: produce more than you consume, and a capacity for violence. These two things can be considered the root of masculinity. So he really was saying "I'll use masculinity to prevent you from telling me I need to be masculine!"
/r/MensRights27/11/19 07:10 AM
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Sure pal, whatever. You've already defeated your own argument.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 06:01 AM
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So you admit you need masculinity in order to defend yourself... while claiming you don't need to be masculine?
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:48 AM
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IIRC, somewhere between 60 and 80% of murderers come from fatherless homes. Talk to any criminologist. They'll tell you the leading indicator of crime in an area is the rate of single motherhood.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:43 AM
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On the Survivor Subreddit either I'm missing something, or they only allow #believwomen opinions to be expressed. Likely the latter.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:38 AM
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How about all of you just get off our neck. Well, if you're an effeminate cuck, why should they? What are you going to do about it? Masculine men stop others from stepping on their necks. That's why men need masculinity.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:37 AM
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If I'm reading that right, it's both depressing and hilarious. It's the political process: Create a problem. Promise to solve the problem. Get more power from the governed to "solve the problem" Make minor gestures towards the problem but don't actually solve it. Goto step 2 in order to get reelected.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:29 AM
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I've always described it this way: The right is not for men's rights. The left is actively against men's rights.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 05:25 AM
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And this is why I find it funny when people claim it's "traditionalism's fault" that children go with the mother. A lot of people really don't know the history of this at all. and which are often turned around and blamed on men and "male lawmakers" I find this funny as well, because those "male lawmakers" are answering to the 56% female suffrage which elects them.
/r/MensRights27/11/19 03:10 AM
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Not even a boomer. But I'd rather be a boomer who got shit done rather than an entitled snowflake that can't accomplish anything myself so I expect the world to take care of me. And you will remain a pissant nothing who is a slave to whoever promises more free shit until you finally learn how to take care of yourself. But then you'll become a "boomer"
/r/MensRights26/11/19 11:54 PM
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I didn't need to. You still got the information. Kids these days... so entitled. Learn to do your own homework.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 11:18 PM
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Ahh, so his opinions rather than his policies count for "the most pro-MRA candidate in the race" The fact that his policies don't support pro-MRA points is immaterial to you. That's why you're a shill.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 09:05 PM
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I honestly believe the rallying cry of the second American Revolution will be "No Representation Without Taxation".
/r/MensRights26/11/19 08:42 PM
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So you have no basis of denying he reversed his anti-circumcision stance.... Again: Are you a paid shill, or do you just destroy your own integrity for free?
/r/MensRights26/11/19 08:41 PM
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Do you have evidence that Yang had an official anti-circumcision policy on his website, or not? I'm not the same person. On what basis did you make the initial claim that Yang was anti-circumcision?
/r/MensRights26/11/19 07:55 PM
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Do you have any evidence for your original claim that Yang had an official anti-circumcision policy, or not? Let's see.... Yang is easily the most pro-MRA candidate in this race. He opposes circumcision That was your post, no? Are you a paid shill, or do you just destroy your own integrity for free?
/r/MensRights26/11/19 07:48 PM
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Men and women equally contribute to the world, life, society and everybody's general well-being. On what basis do you believe that? Are you willing to accept that this priori of your beliefs is false? But mostly men do it "professionally" or get paid for it, in other words, generally women are unpaid carers (their contributions to society are generally unpaid.) No, women are very well paid. They get access the man's income (if married) in return for their services. If single, they get access to …
/r/MensRights26/11/19 07:01 PM
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I'll ask you again, are you saying that women don't make any contributions? Individual women contribute, and individual women who are a net negative are net positive during parts of their lives. But as a net and as a whole, no. Women receive far more from government than they put into the system. but only one of them is the "tax base" then doesn't that point to an overall flaw in the economic scheme? Yes, because women control 56% of suffrage while only contributing 75% of taxes. And women incre…
/r/MensRights26/11/19 06:09 PM
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I'm disappointed that the "Yang Gang" seems to throw Men under the bus, so much for caring about Men. There's a reason that I often snark: Leftist "MRA" is an oxymoron. Because when a leftist has to choose between men and big government, they'll throw men under the bus. And big government (and the resulting Bureaugamy) is the #1 MRM issue.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 04:56 PM
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Can you actually cite some sources for your post? Men pay 75% of taxes, women receive 80% of welfare. Look up the USA budget for welfare and do the calculations. And single motherhood was a thing WAY before government support, mate. Of course it was. But it wasn't 40% out of wedlock births like it is today.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 04:07 PM
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FUCK. I wish there was a place I could talk about MensRights that wasn't completely alt-right Whelp, you're gonna have an issue with that. Any MRM site that is intellectually honest will eventually trend conservative. The problem is that the left tends towards big government and big government is already responsible for $2T/yr wealth transfer from men to women. Under the right, a man supports a woman he chooses to support via marriage (or none at all if he becomes a bachelor), does the work nece…
/r/MensRights26/11/19 03:59 PM
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Funny how the perceptions change when the tables are turned One of the larger risk factors for divorce is the wife significantly out-earning the husband.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 03:49 PM
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because there are STILL a lot of men abandoning their kids Strange how single motherhood didn't take off until the welfare state started supporting women in place of the fathers, making government the better deal for more than half of men. much less any support for women become an equivalent to evil? When you realize that the government takes $2,000,000,000,000 from men and gives it to women per year.
/r/MensRights26/11/19 03:46 PM
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Reality disagrees with you
/r/MensRights22/11/19 07:35 PM
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Yep, you feel that women are "more equal" than men. It's no big deal that women's suffrage has created the massive welfare state that robs men to pay women. It's no big deal that women's votes have increased taxes 2000% relative to GDP. Yes, because welfare "helps [a small number of] men too"... even though the overall affect on men is massively detrimental. Like I said: another liberal "MRA"
/r/MensRights22/11/19 07:29 PM
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Once again, a Liberal "MRA" throws men under the bus to support liberalism.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 06:57 PM
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We don't vote on individual issues so, not really familiar, we vote for parties. Campaigns targeted at men to encourage voting is feasible. And in what fantasy land do those parties win considering women control 56% of the vote? Women don't pay less tax because they're somehow inferior, it's because they're doing unpaid labour instead i.e raising children. Women earn less because they can. Because our government transfers $2T/yr from men to women. You think that's fair?
/r/MensRights22/11/19 05:20 PM
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If men used their vote, it would make a massive difference. Unfortunately, no. Any vote hot enough to draw in more men would also draw in more women. Again, men would be outvoted. What issue do you imagine that would draw in more male voters without drawing in more female voters? And would that issue even make a difference? It's non negotiable that women's right to vote should be taken away I don't see any way of fixing this without ending universal suffrage. We could move to landowner only vote…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 04:17 PM
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Perhaps you misunderstand what I said above: Of those who are eligible to vote, 56% are women. If 100% of Americans who could vote did, 56% of those votes would be cast by women.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:34 PM
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Create a society which doesn't see men as disposable anymore. That's not a solvable problem. All societies will see men as more individually disposable as it does women. It's not a matter of will/won't, it's a matter of can/can't. Simply put: might make right, numbers make might, women make numbers. Basically creating equality be improving the situation for men not by worsening the situation for women. Because of the above, seeking equality creates a system of female supremacy. Because rights ar…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:32 PM
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I keep explaining it to you, and you keep ignoring anything that has to do with the explanations and failing to address anything that is inconvenient to you. And you keep ignoring reality when it's inconvenient for your argument and return to your assumption that men and women are exactly the same other than sexual organs. That's the argument we are having because YOU don't have good will in this discussion. You have made incorrect priori for the discussion and refuse to realize that they are wr…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:32 PM
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You are thinking at people as groups instead of individuals. Because we are talking about group dynamics. Individuals don't matter in politics, groups do. So, no. it wasn't women suffrage the lead to this tax increase, it was politicians. Women's suffrage changed our politicians. Without women's suffrage, we would have different politicians who acted differently. The problem here is that you are viewing politicians as people with power over the subjects. They are not. They are chauffeurs who go …
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:06 PM
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Let's think this through: Women control 56% of suffrage. That's a 12 point lead. Put another way, if 10% of women and all men vote one way and 90% of women vote the other, the 90% of women win. The vote lead women have is extreme. Women have used that 12 point gap to increase taxes 2000% relative to GDP since women's suffrage. Men now pay 75% of taxes while women receive 80% of government welfare. In the USA, that represents $2T/yr taken from men to be given to women. In recent history, we watch…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 05:45 AM
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Any time government expands, more of the benefit of the expansion goes to women than to men. Going "forward" is treating men like second class citizens while they fund 75% of government. Going "forward" is treating women as more equal than men.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 05:45 AM
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Actually, I am speaking of both. I say that women have the same level of agency and the same level of responsabilité, Do they? Has any society EVER held women to the same level of responsibility? It is even possible for a society to hold women to the same level of responsibility? On what basis do you assume this is true? What don't you understand in "being victim of malagency?". That they take advantage of it rather than are held back by it. So why and how would they be fighting something they a…
/r/MensRights21/11/19 09:31 PM
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I wish it were that simple. Unfortunately the root cause of Bureaugamy is women's suffrage: women controlling 56% of the vote while only contributing 25% of the taxes. Politicians have run on robbing Men to fund programs which benefit Women in order to bribe votes from the controlling interest.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 09:08 PM
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Bureaugamy is the #1 MRM issue. A lot (I daresay most) of the solvable MRM issues can be resolved by ending Bureaugamy. The problem is what it will take to end Bureaugamy.
/r/MensRights21/11/19 04:22 PM
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The whole difference is in what "actually is" and what "is perceived to be". You are confusing the two. You are talking about ought (women have just as much decision power and responsibility for decisions as men) while I'm speaking to the IS (Society refuses to hold women as responsible for their actions). Please also note, and that is very important, that women are just as much victims of malagency as men. Yes, which is why women have been fighting tooth and nail to have full responsibility for…
/r/MensRights21/11/19 03:37 PM
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And I repeat: Having responsibility for your choices greatly influences the choices you make. So lacking responsibility for choices means you don't have full agency.
/r/MensRights20/11/19 11:36 PM
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You keep insisting on restricting the conversation to the absurd. Agency without responsibility is not agency. It's happy unicorn land where people can make choices without any consequences. That is not agency: that is childhood. Hell, dogs have agency according to your definitions. but responsibility is not inherently linked to agency itself It absolutely is. This is the point you are not getting. Having responsibility for your choices greatly influences the choices you make. If replying to thi…
/r/MensRights20/11/19 03:17 PM
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The problem is that both you and asking are starting from the false premise that men and women are interchangable. And somehow you both do this while directly discussing the different worlds that men and women live in, and then somehow jump the shark to "but we can be equal" with zero logical connection. Let me cut the whole line of bullshit short. Men and women will never be held as interchangeable because of one simple fact of biology: Might makes right; numbers make might; women make numbers.
/r/MensRights11/11/19 11:14 PM
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I’m not sure if women getting custody was a result of the women’s rights movement. The tender years doctrine came about in the 1870's. IIRC it was in a state out west where women already had suffrage. Before the tender years doctrine, children were seen as "fruit of the marriage" and always went with the father in rare cases of divorce.
/r/MensRights11/11/19 11:08 PM
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Bureaugamy: men subsidizing women via government.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 07:09 PM
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Agency being the ability to make meaningful decisions But do women's decisions have meaning if they are insulated from the negative effects of those decisions?
/r/MensRights05/11/19 06:21 PM
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Look, to get anywhere with this discussion, I really need you to give your definition of agency, There are many who feel that children don't have agency, because they don't bear responsibility for their choices (parents handle their messes). My point is that this continues into the adult world as well: since women are often insulated from the bad results of their choices. This is why I believe responsibility is a critical component to agency. And because the vast majority feminist groups fight a…
/r/MensRights05/11/19 03:19 PM
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Yeah, and in fact Jack the ripper never had any agency in killing those women, as he was never found and held responsible. But he had the risk of being held accountable. Women know they won't be held accountable and behave accordingly. I don't know what you are referencing I'm referencing that you are making the same argument that I have: women don't have responsibility for their actions. Our only argument now is if risking responsibilities for one's actions is crucial to agency or not. I claim …
/r/MensRights04/11/19 02:41 PM
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The idea is that women are falsely perceived as lacking agency. Agency is the ability to make decisions. suffrage wasn't giving them agency, both because having suffrage doesn't mean having agency Wat? So, your question is quite of void, because it implies something that is different from what agency is. Without responsibility for your actions, you don't truly have agency. Because even if agency is only choice, without responsibility for your actions you are existing in a moral hazard and will m…
/r/MensRights03/11/19 01:36 PM
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The idea is that women are falsely perceived as lacking agency. Let me challenge this for a though experiment: when have you ever seen large groups of women challenging their lack of responsibilities for their actions (the downside of agency)? Why is that once women are given any measure of agency (suffrage) they use that to insulate women from responsibility for their bad choices? What exactly makes you think this is a false perception?
/r/MensRights02/11/19 03:26 PM
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Big government doesn't necessarily mean "women taking from men." When men pay 75% of taxes and women get 80% of welfare, it does. When government has expanded 2000% relative to GDP since women's suffrage, it does. I though Obamacare would have taught you guys, but apparently you never learn... Once again, folks: "leftist MRA" is an oxymoron.
/r/MensRights02/11/19 02:51 PM
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Queue GWW's "you're the real feminist leftist" speech.
/r/MensRights02/11/19 02:48 PM
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I notice that you have yet again failed to denounce big government. I guess you don't mind women taking from men.
/r/MensRights02/11/19 04:01 AM
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Leftism and feminism are not only not the same, they are opposed. Which is why the leftist parties of every first world nation support feminism. You are delusional.
/r/MensRights02/11/19 04:00 AM
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I'd say less than half, even if it is a significant percentage. But progressives and feminists align 99% of the time.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 01:30 AM
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And, yet, you never denounce big government... the tool feminists use to take from men to give to women. That's why "leftist MRA" is an oxymoron.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 01:26 AM
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Whelp, it's as much evidence as you've supplied. So meh... Try to learn on your own sometimes. I know it's hard for a brainwashed leftist like you, but you can still do it. I promise!
/r/MensRights01/11/19 01:24 AM
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Quit being an idiot and read up to the beginning of this thread. Do try to keep up. I did, you haven't. Damn leftists always projecting.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 01:23 AM
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Traditionalism: a man protects, provides, and solves the problems of the singular woman he chose to be his wife... or no woman if he decides to be single. He gains the benefits of having a wife if he does marry. Leftism: men protect, provide, and solve the problems of all women via proxy of government with no choice in the matter. A man cannot opt out. He gains no benefit from his forced service. Take your false equivalence bullshit elsewhere.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 09:58 PM
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Yes. I looked up the issue back when they first noticed the birth rate disparity. It's very simple: sons keep the family name and support aging parents. Daughters become part of the new family. It's much more important in a country like China that doesn't have old age safety nets like western countries.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 09:54 PM
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So... your point is that you are arguing from ignorance of Chinese culture.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:18 PM
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there is quite a bit of intersection between our bastardized establishment govt and men’s rights. Government is the tool that women use to take from men. It's the expected outcome from the moral hazard of women controlling 56% of suffrage while only paying 25% of the taxes.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 04:16 AM
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Feminism is a movement of traditionalism: That both genders have roles they must fulfill which are important to society? Yeah... Just because you hate traditionalism doesn't mean feminism has anything in common with it.
/r/MensRights31/10/19 04:13 AM
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Look at what happened when China introduced the one child policy Mothers wanted sons which were beholden to take care of their parents (i.e. mom since dad will die first), rather than daughters who weren't?
/r/MensRights31/10/19 04:05 AM
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Gynocentric society is a society in which a woman's ability to give birth is considered as the most important resource of all. If that is your definition, then you are not dealing with a problem: you are dealing with an IS. All societies treat reproduction as valuable because: Might makes right; number make might; women make numbers. Due to that chain, all societies will treat the average woman better than the average man. A woman is a human being because having a womb give her inherit value to …
/r/MensRights30/10/19 09:07 PM
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Ahh, my brain focused on the missing lines. Thanks.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 07:12 PM
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? The line after each is the source of the claim.
/r/MensRights29/10/19 04:36 AM
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50% of mothers see no value in the father's continued contact with his children. --Surviving the Breakup by Joan Berlin Kelly 40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the father's visitation to punish their ex-husband. --"Frequency of Visitation...." by Stanford Braver, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry
/r/MensRights28/10/19 04:47 PM
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Additional info: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mom-trying-to-transition-7-year-old-admits-hes-not-her-biological-son-she-used-egg-donor The child is not even biologically hers. They used a donor egg and in-vitro fertilization. At what point do you just tell the government "No."
/r/MensRights22/10/19 08:14 PM
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Women's rights that men don't have, granted by law: A commission on the status of women in every state, funded by taxpayer dollars (men only have one, in NH, and it is unfunded). Tax benefits for being a "woman-owned business" Government contracts guaranteed to women-owned (and minority owned) businesses. Violence Against Women Act. IMBRA Full rights to their own born children. Men only get rights to their children when granted by the courts or by the legal precedent of marriage to the mother. A…
/r/MensRights22/10/19 06:51 AM
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"Until you can demonstrate a way of convincing society to treat men and women as equally disposable, this fantasy of equality between men and women cannot exist and is not a valid argument." --Me There is only one stable option.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 06:43 AM
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Because women hold the majority of the electorate in every first world nation. In the USA, it's 56/44. To give you an idea of how extreme that split is: 10% of women could side with men and women's interests will still win out.
/r/MensRights21/10/19 08:52 PM
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Except I rarely see elgatarians mention equal responsibility (because that's hard to fix) and never seem them mention equal disposability (because that's impossible to fix). But rights are easy to fix. And fixing them first makes the other two problems even harder and more impossible to fix (because women hold a majority of the electorate in every first world nation). All of that is why equality is impossible, and why seeking equality actually creates a system of men as second class citizens. An…
/r/MensRights15/10/19 02:58 PM
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What about men who think everyone should have the same rights, regardless of gender I think they're just fools; they don't understand that equal responsibilities are also important.
/r/MensRights15/10/19 02:20 PM
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I'm a woman on your side guys, but comments and attitudes like this are the reason you don't see more honey badgers. If a soft spoken reality is enough to get them to step away, they never would have had the conviction to become a honey badger in the face of all the feminist hate that goes along with it. And that's why your post wreaks of concern troll.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 07:39 PM
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by its own graph, the average male has a net negative financial impact too. If that man lives long enough, yes. But less than 50% do. So where is all this money coming from? Increasing national debt.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 07:32 PM
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https://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacl/centres-and-institutes/cpf/publications/pdfs/WP10_2013_Distribution-Income-and-Fiscal-Incidence_18062013.pdf Figure on the right: Figure 17. Both figures come from the same study.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 04:58 PM
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What you are missing: exact equality is impossible when dealing with two parts that are not interchangeable. That's why seeking equality puts women above men. Because the places where women are behind (rights) are easy to correct but some places where men are behind (responsibilities) are hard to fix and other areas where men are behind (individual disposability) are impossible to fix. That's where the imbalance comes from.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 04:22 PM
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It's the predictable end result of seeking equality: men become persons and women become persons plus.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 03:44 PM
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Well, duh? Government learned that it can increase it's own power through pandering to the 56% female majority of suffrage by increasing taxes (mostly paid by men) to create more government welfare (mostly received by women). So of course things are set up that way... People wanted equality and they got it. Under equality, women are "more equal" than men.
/r/MensRights14/10/19 12:37 PM
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Well, people wanted "equality" and they got it.
/r/MensRights10/10/19 06:10 AM
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Under traditional gender roles: a man did the work necessary to keep society going, supported a woman of his choosing, and was rewarded for his efforts. Under current progressive roles: a man does the work necessary to keep society going, supports all women via proxy of government without any choice, and is shit on every step of the way.
/r/MensRights30/09/19 04:34 AM
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I agree with the current top comment, the 22 year old wouldn't abandon his dad of 22 years out of the blue No, it started years ago when he was poisoned by a mother who thought fatherhood was either interchangeable or meaningless. You know: the type of woman who would like to a man about paternity.
/r/MensRights26/09/19 07:39 PM
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At a minimum, the false accuser should be charged with the actions the police took on the accuser's behalf as if the accuser commuted them themselves unlawfully: Unlawful arrest. Kidnapping. Assault with a deadly weapon (if police in your country carry firearms). Unlawful detainment. And filing a false police report, which the accuser did themselves. Why? Because filing a false police report is using the government as a weapon against the accused. The false accuser should be responsible for the …
/r/MensRights24/09/19 12:54 PM
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I don't know about the UK, but in the US: Republicans don't care much about men's rights. Democrats are actively against men's rights. So... not really, but the choice is still obvious.
/r/MensRights24/09/19 07:17 AM
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I can kind of agree with the sentiment. Mens rights does not have to be aligned with right wing economics at all. It actually does. Because even under the USA, which is still farther towards the capitalism end of the scale than a lot of other countries, the government transfers $2T/yr from men to women. That's 1/8th of the USA GDP. Since women make up the majority of suffrage in all 1st world nations: the bigger government is, the more it will serve women over men.
/r/MensRights21/09/19 05:14 AM
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Perhaps not a joke. A few countries in the EU have discussed enacting a bachelor tax.
/r/MensRights21/09/19 04:50 AM
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They don't. I so badly wish I had saved this story when I saw it. Saw it about a decade ago; can't find it now. A man was charged with violating the restraining order his ex had against him when said ex visited him while he was in jail.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 06:09 PM
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No foreign policy? That sounds great. Being conquered sounds great? Do you hate your culture that much?
/r/MensRights18/09/19 04:44 AM
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75% of taxes comes from New Zeland Study. JudgyBitch had a good writeup of it, but that site is gone now :( 80% is USA numbers. I read that one on paper on campus. I wouldn't know how to find it today, unfortunately. $2T/yr was me doing math on the USA budget given the above two numbers.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 06:48 PM
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I believe a source can be found in "Why Men Earn More" by Warren Farrell. Oh, and I forgot the qualifier of "full-time worker" which applies to both the old and new statistics.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 06:44 PM
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Speak for yourself, at least our conservatives believe in climate change. Nobody believes in climate change. Because if you honestly believed in climate change, you'd be sanctioning the fuck out of China, India, and most of SE Asia. Since the Paris Accord is the exact opposite of that: Nobody believes in climate change.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 03:32 PM
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Unmarried childless women of a certain age or above have outearned unmarried childless men of the same age or above since 1960 (before the first equal pay act). IIRC in 1960 is was either 40 or 35. IIRC today it's down to 22. Why childless and unmarried? Because married women tend to live off their husband's income and unmarried women with children tend to live off of all men's income via taxes and welfare.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 03:03 PM
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What's even more significant is the net transfer of wealth from men to women. Most people don't even know half the story: Men pay 75% of taxes. Women receive 80% of government welfare. In the USA that represents a transfer of $2T per year. Bureaugamy (women married to the State) is the #1 MRM issue. Don't let the socialists tell you otherwise.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:58 PM
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Why should I? It's a fucking job and a dodgy one at that. Because a tribe without warriors will soon be forgotten. The true job of the military is to enforce the last 300m of foreign policy. Without a military, you cannot have foreign policy.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:21 PM
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STRATEGIES OF REPRODUCTION: THE EVOLUTIONARY FOUNDATIONS OF SEX ROLES
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:12 PM
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Who gives a fuck what feminists think?
/r/MensRights16/09/19 07:44 PM
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Tobacco industry lobbied for it Phillip Morris (Marlboro) owns the only FDA approved vaping device. They want to eliminate the competition and have a large entry barrier.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 06:05 PM
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More a byproduct of single motherhood, which is a byproduct of poverty + welfare reductions in having the father around.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 09:36 PM
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Didn't you guys have a whole amendment for this sort of shit? First and Second. Use in order.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 09:33 PM
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To see inherent worth in men just for being. Won't happen. Women represent inherit value to society because they have wombs and will give birth to the next generation of society. Men do not have any such inherit value to society.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 08:46 PM
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Women are human beings. Women's value to society comes from her womb. She has value to society just by existing. Men are human doings. Men's value to society comes from what he accomplishes or performs. A man must actively do something to obtain value for society.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 08:43 PM
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Love how you got downvoted with no reply for your question. To give you an answer: of course you can't, silly. The system can't work if you get to keep your own money! How else can Yang replace welfare with "welfare" without the money of people who actually work.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 08:10 PM
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Ladder (helping you help yourself) welfare is a lot better than Handout (making you dependant on government) welfare. Yes, there's an up front cost involved in Ladder welfare. But hopefully that cost will be offset by the extra productivity in society.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 08:03 PM
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All humans are violent by nature. Men are trained to restrain their violence, usually by their fathers, unless it's something important. Women are no longer trained to be restrained and we are watching the results of that throughout society.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 02:54 AM
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Here is one such breakdown (which is higher than $37k). Here is the Work vs Welfare tradeoff study using 2013 numbers. You'll get above $37k/yr in 9 states, above $30k/yr in 19 states. In all but 10 states you'll get above $20k/yr. The Cato report is interesting. I had been figuring taxes as a single male. Apparently you get a "thank you for living in America" check from the IRS as a single mother earning less than $40k a year. I didn't realize that a single mother with two dependents pays negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:55 AM
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You don't think women compete for men? Not in ways where the side-effects of which advance society. Women don't compete for men by earning more money or doing more for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:21 AM
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My point is succinctly stated in my first post. Men have caused more suffering than women by a huge margin Because men do shit while women sit on the sidelines, protected by men, bitching about what men do. So it is your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:31 PM
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So until "transhumanism and genetic engineering erase sexual dimorphism", what do? Use their voting block to transfer even more money from men to women via government until they "don't need no man" at the higher classes instead of just the lower and middle classes. There's a number I like to bring up: $37k/yr. That's the cash equivalent of what a single mother of two can get from government programs. Put $10k on top of that for the man to have his own money and then put the taxes on top and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:28 PM
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So your entire point is "men do shit" Yes, men do shit, good and bad. Women sit on the sidelines, protected by men who do shit, and complain about the shit men do. My point: Perhaps if women weren't protected by men, we'd witness them do shit: both good and bad. But since women are protected, we just witness men doing shit, both good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 09:59 PM
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The history of the world is essentially all unnecessary barbarism It was entirely necessary, unless you wanted to be conquered by the barbarians next door. That's what I'm saying. You're saying you'd rather be the "perfect society" that becomes the barbarian's slaves. That's your choice, but I prefer survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 09:35 PM
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Basically, she wants to imagine the problem is something other than what it is so the "ought" she desires is the answer to the problem. But that isn't what the problem is. Nor is there a guarantee that transhumanism and genetic modifications would even create the problem space where her answer is "right". And besides, women already have more political power than men. Women make up 56% of the electorate. How is that working out for society as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 09:28 PM
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If you want your society to be something other than a footnote in a history textbook, you have to do what's necessary to survive. Men did the shitty necessary work that was required for the cultures to survive as long as they did. A perfect society means nothing when it doesn't survive first contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 09:21 PM
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I just don't understand your reasoning here, or how you can just gloss over thousands of years of abject slaughter, revolutions, genocides, rapes, bad ideas (see: religious institutions, monarchies), hysteria's... all perpetuated, sanctioned and started by men. Name any society at any time period where women were more likely than men to: Be imprisoned. Be impoverished. Be murdered. Be pressed into military service. Every society, across all time, has protected it's women above it's men. It had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:59 PM
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I'm not a reactionary, I'm a consequentialist. And when you start looking at "what makes society work" you'll find it's always men competing for women that advances society. Look at our matriarchies throughout history, they didn't advance and always collapsed/were conquered by patriarchies. Unless she has some imagined alternate-reality where women compete for men, then the societies where men don't compete will be left behind by those where men do compete. It's as simple as that. There's absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:54 PM
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The problem with this is that none of these societies had birth control or abortions. So? Unless birth control and abortions means that women are going to become financial achievers competing for men... that does not change the problem scope.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:52 PM
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Women's rights that men don't have, granted by law: A commission on the status of women in every state, funded by taxpayer dollars (men only have one, in NH, and it is unfunded). Tax benefits for being a "woman-owned business" Government contracts guaranteed to women-owned (and minority owned) businesses. Violence Against Women Act. IMBRA Full rights to their own born children. Men only get rights to their children when granted by the courts or by the legal precedent of marriage to the mother. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:26 PM
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"Unwin analyzes 80 primitive cultures and a number of past empires and finds that, without exception, the level of advancement or decline of all cultures is directly tied to the level of regulation of female sexuality. His historical examples include the Sumerians, Babylonians, Athenians, Romans, Teutons, and Anglo-Saxons (600s - 900s), and English (1500s - 1900s). In every example, these cultures began to rise when women were required to be virgins at marriage and to be monogamous for life. All…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:22 PM
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Is this just something that you figured out in your own I've figured this out on my own, being a student of history and conflict. Even Gandhi had a demon waiting in the wings if the "reasonable side" was not heard and made complacent. About the only successful movement that didn't have too much of a demon was the US version of the women's suffrage movement, albeit that happened 2 years after the UK suffrage movement where terroristic action (bombings, etc.) took place from the extreme members of…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 10:12 PM
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and without exception it's always been the "peaceful" / "rational" side of the movement that got them anywhere. The peaceful carrot doesn't get bitten without the potentially violent stick. Just look at the success of Martin Luther King Jr in comparison to the black nationalists movement. MLK would have accomplished nothing without the threat of the black nationalists.
/r/MensRights27/08/19 03:41 PM
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It's really simple to realize it how it happened when you are introduced to a single fact: Of those who have suffrage in the USA, 56% are women.
/r/MensRights27/08/19 12:30 PM
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Typical first order thinking. They want an effect, but don't realize that their changes will alter the cause that leads to the effect.
/r/MensRights27/08/19 12:27 PM
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Lumping men's rights with the red pill or even MGTOW is, I think, equally as damaging. It's not. But you won't get that because of your fatal flaw (explained below). but you have to at least realize that a solid 75% of the country agrees with me here, including quite a few actual Trump supporters. I don't agree with you. Perhaps 75% of those who still trust mainstream media, but the faith in media is so low it's actually below faith in congress. So long as feminists can point at the men's rights…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 12:20 PM
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This rhetoric gets thrown around a lot but I think it's intellectually lazy and usually doesn't mean anything. It's simple math. Women make up 56% of suffrage. Whenever government grows, more of the growth will go to women in order to bribe their votes. I think part of the reason you see this movement on the right Is because reddit is the only leftist manosphere haven out there. But Trump is also a misogynist, and a racist, And this is where I know you're brainwashed. Seriously, Trump is so "rac…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 03:54 AM
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All societies exploit men. They have to in order to survive. All societies used to exploit women as well (mostly to keep the men achieving to become "marriage material" and advancing the society). However, most western societies now consider this "oppression" and have stopped incentivizing marriage. Problem is, societies have to exploit women in order to survive just as they need to exploit men. It's just that you can survive, for a short time, without exploiting women... but long enough that mo…
/r/MensRights26/08/19 09:22 PM
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You'd really think that men's rights would be a liberal issue You would think so, but most of the MRM (outside reddit) leans heavy conservative. Why? Because the #1 MRM issue is feminists using government to take from men to give to women. The only way to solve that issue is to shrink government, hence the conservative lean in the MRM.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:48 PM
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Well of course the MRM is breeding "far-right extremists". The MRM gets people to question feminism. Anyone who questions feminism is a "far-right extremist"
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:44 PM
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Where is this coming from? A number of places: Women are pretending to be men and participate the male role for society which was built around men being men. Unfortunately for them, men and women are different, so women don't fit well in these roles. Males are more phenotypically diverse than females (this is a mammalian thing, not a human thing). As such, any form of meritocracy will lead to the top being mostly men as men make up a larger percentage of those who are the best at X. Women are up…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 05:28 PM
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That's why the only reasonable outcome of a rape trial is acquittal: because the laws themselves create a reasonable doubt that exculpatory evidence was prevented from being shown to the jury.
/r/MensRights15/08/19 10:54 PM
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The current child support system, which has the ability to determine what you should be earning, is a violation of involuntary servitude and is therefore unconstitutional.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 04:57 AM
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Besides the question of "how do you boycott a government?" he was spot on. Revolution doesn't have to be the 2nd step, but the threat of it must be there. Otherwise you get people being arrested and going to jail for making jokes about a criminal's mugshot where it looked like he must have stuck his finger in a light socket (current example from UK).
/r/MensRights12/08/19 04:55 AM
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Yep, still see you deflecting from an example that doesn't require a strawman. Thanks for confirming that you are admitting defeat.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 04:46 AM
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In other words: once you make it a normal experience, it obviously shifts the burden of proof and you don't want to have to admit you've been wrong all along. Concession of defeat admitted.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 10:27 PM
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But the core issue here is that they are suggesting removing the requirement that the accuser have done anything to indicate non-consent. And that removal doesn't require drugs being involved so take your stupid strawman elsewhere. So yes it does shift the burden of proof to the accused that consent was there. Try a normal example and see how that doesn't shift the burden of proof.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:37 PM
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Then please explain to the idiot how removing the requirement that the prosecution does not need to prove non-consent ("to reject any requirement that sexual assault victims have a legal burden of verbal or physical resistance") does not become that the defense must prove consent. Go ahead.... please.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 07:06 PM
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It only works as long as the citizenry has the ability to back up their peaceful protests with violent revolution. That's why some of us see 2A as the most important piece of the Constitution.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:30 PM
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this does not shift the burden of proof; It absolutely does. this is a suggestion by the aba which has no authority to issue any rules for attorneys, let alone actual legislation. I never made that claim.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 05:26 PM
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So the threat of violence was necessary for black civil rights? Very much so. Peaceful protests themselves are just a threat of becoming non-peaceful if their demands are not met.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 05:23 PM
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It absolutely is. Now the defense has to prove consent rather than the prosecutors proving non-consent, because consent is no longer assumed. It's right there in black and white.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:35 AM
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Let's apply this to anything else. For example, let's say you need 5 dollars. So you ask your co-worker Joe for 5 dollars. Joe fishes out 5 bucks and hands it to you. You have now stolen from Joe because Joe never said yes. All this because, apparently, women are too infantile to learn how to say "no".
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:30 AM
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The headline is straight up lying or misinterpreting that the burden of proof is shifting to the accused proving their innocence. So... guilty until proven innocent? Oh, strange, that's exactly what the headline says!
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:24 AM
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It worked for black people too and a lot of the country didn't sympathize with them either. The only reason the country chose MLK was because Malcolm X was the alternative. No, it doesn't. The only time it ever has was Gandhi, and that's because it would have bankrupted the UK to impose their will on the people of India.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:17 AM
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Feminism started as a women’s rights organization. ... that achieved men's rights while rejecting men's responsibilities. It was a supremacy movement since it's inception.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 06:17 AM
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"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." I'm saying start listening to men before they take back their rights with violence. Men have a history of doing just that.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:21 AM
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if societally we have an issue with men abandoning families We have an issue of mothers kicking the father out of the family: 50% of mothers see no value in the father's continued contact with his children. --See Surviving the Breakup by Joan Berlin Kelly 40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the father's visitation to punish their ex-husband. --See "Frequency of Visitation...." by Stanford Braver, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry
/r/MensRights10/08/19 01:50 AM
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id also like to see if the data is different between single father and single mother. There is one study that I know of, NIS-3 (study of child abuse), that separated single-parent households into single mother vs single father. The results showed that single father households were comparable to dual parent households in rates of abuse. Single mother households had 3x the rate of abuse.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 01:44 AM
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Why is the message so different between the two sexes? Who or what is to blame for it? Women are human beings; men are human doings. The way a healthy society advances is upon the backs of men who compete to be providers in the quest for sex and reproduction. Men's duty is to achieve to be worthy of marriage, women's duty is to be worthy of marriage and reward the best men with marriage and then be the best helpmate they can for their husband. That's the initial state, but it's not what it has t…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 01:05 AM
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A racist president So racist he won the Ellis award the year it was started alongside Rosa Parks...
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:21 AM
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We should fight for men's rights because we believe in a fair and just society, not because we're scared of them. MLK would have been a blip in history without Malcom X as the alternative. It's like saying we should give in to the requests of Islamic terrorists because otherwise they'll get angry and dangerous. And yet look at what Europe is doing on that front.... Might make right.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:11 AM
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So boys whose dads die are just broken and fucked for life? You're mistaking trends for absolutes. And men don't NEED wives or families to have purpose just as women don't NEED husbands or kids to lead meaningful, fulfilling lives. No, they don't. But we need them to for society to continue advancing and functioning well.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:02 AM
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feminism as a whole has grown into this grotesque form of what it once was A lot of people think this, but that's not quite true. It was grotesque since the beginning: The first wave wanted men's rights, but rejected men's responsibilities. The second wave rejected women's responsibilities to society, but still maintained their benefits. The third wave is all about increasing men's responsibilities to women. The issue is that we, as a society, thought we had gotten so advanced we could quit payi…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:00 AM
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I prefer not to get arrested for wrongthink facebook posts, like the rest of the "civilized" world.
/r/MensRights09/08/19 03:07 PM
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But you can't be proud of the achievements of your culture and ancestors!* *if you are white and male. If you are being proud of your female or non-white ancestors, that's totally fine!
/r/MensRights09/08/19 02:59 PM
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Do you disagree with the statement you quoted? I do. Because I am missing the connection between what you quoted and what you said after that. Because the possibility of conscription is necessary to temper the voters. Because too many people will say "well I just wanted sanctions on that country, I didn't want to go to war with them!" without realizing that sanctions have the possibility of leading to war. I fail to see why a mere voter should be forced to go to war. Because might makes right. A…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 10:02 PM
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If a nation has to force it's citizens to pick up arms in defense of the country, it is honestly probably not that great of a nation. If you want to influence the government (which might lead to war) you need skin in the game that will prevent you from being frivolous with others (the military's) lives. I see that as intended, just, and reasonable rather than a problem.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 09:06 PM
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half of the populace is allowed to vote without being forced to accept those responsibilities you mention And you're looking at the wrong problem. The problem isn't that conscription exists, the problem is that a unconscriptable segment of the portion gets to influence the direction of the government. Rights without responsibilities is a moral hazard.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 08:56 PM
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You also didn't answer the question. I absolutely did. You just, again obviously, don't get it. Being part of the collective (the country) grants rights (voting) and responsibilities (conscription). If you want to be part of the collective (vote) accept the responsibilities (conscription). If you vote, you influence the collective. Your skin in the game is that you might get drafted if the overall influence leads to war. If you don't like that, find another collective to be a part of or be your …
/r/MensRights08/08/19 08:44 PM
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What parallels exist between one individual's bodily autonomy and the collective will of a majority? Simple: if you want complete autonomy, don't be part of the collective via voting. And also take no benefits from the collective (school, welfare, etc.). In fact, just go find a nice deserted island for yourself. and if you could explain that to me without treating me like I am retarded I would really appreciate it. Well, you sound like typical anarchist talking points, and anarchists are retarde…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 08:28 PM
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You obviously don't understand the point being made. If he is so concerned about violations of his autonomy, why should he get to violate the country's via voting?
/r/MensRights08/08/19 07:56 PM
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Well the SCotUS ruled in 1918 that conscription and suffrage were tied: conscription was the responsibility that went with the right of suffrage. To me, it absolutely makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that everyone forgot that tie in 1920 when the 19th was passed. In fact, the biggest anti-suffragette movements were comprised of women who were afraid of the responsibility coming with the right. But because women consistently receive rights without responsibilities, they were exempt. The re…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 02:59 PM
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Does anyone else know that the rates of spousal homicide used to be pretty similar? IIRC, it was within 10% of each other. But after spousal abuse laws, when the wife can get the husband removed just by calling the cops, the spousal homicide rate for women dropped like a rock: it was safer for them to call the cops to get the husband out of their life than to risk being caught for murder.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 12:24 AM
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We shouldn’t have to decide between having a feminist welfare state or no welfare state at all. But, really, that's the choice. When women have suffrage (and adult women outnumber adult men), politicians buy women's votes by increasing taxes on men to fund a welfare state that goes mostly to women. It's a win/win for politicians: they get (re)elected and they get to increase the power and scope of government. When we don't have women's suffrage, we don't have welfare. Because then men (the major…
/r/MensRights08/08/19 12:14 AM
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It surprises me that people can look at the safer, more stable societies produced by welfare states and conclude that's a bad thing. Well it's simple. That taxes are 75% paid for by men and that women receive 80% of government welfare means that, in the USA, $2T/yr is transferred from men to women via government. As an MRA, I consider that a bad thing.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 12:08 AM
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I assure you there are solutions that don't require violent revolution or the subjugation of half of the population's status as voting citizens.. Yeah, everyone I have this debate with claims that, but never seems to list even a single one. Don't worry, I've stopped wondering why: because there aren't any other solutions. They have to lie to themselves to protect their worldview.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 08:55 PM
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I've admitted that for years. Here is me saying the same thing 7 years ago. There's only 3 solutions to the MRM: Revolt, Expat, or Turtle. The core MRM issues stem from women controlling 56% of suffrage and the resulting Bureaugamy. How do you plan to resolve that without one of the 3? No, none of the 3 solutions are nice, but they are solutions. You don't even have a solution. I wonder if I can get you to admit that.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 07:16 PM
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So you want to convince enough men to start a violent revolution and enslave women? Nah, for a 50% pay raise, more personal freedoms, and a sane government that answers to those who fund it. Either that or wait till this system collapse because women's suffrage is causing the big government bubble. What's your solution? To beg women to stop taking so much money and rights from men? That's worked precisely when? Oh, wait, I remember now: you're a litteral meme
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:59 PM
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You can't remove women's right to vote Yes, men can. All it takes is revolution. If women will enslave men via government, we'll replace that government and take away women's right to vote. If it's "fair" that women use their superior numbers to take from men, then it's "fair" that men use their superior capacity for violence to replace the system for one that doesn't enslave them.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:49 PM
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May I repeat: there is a democratic process in place and men have to start voting for their own rights. Women control 56% of suffrage. Even if 10% of women and all men decided to support men's rights, they'd still lose the vote. So you are saying you don't mind women taking from men via government. Ergo, you are a female supremacist. And you're going to lecture me about morals?
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:43 PM
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May I repeat: Women's suffrage has turned government into a surrogate husband that takes money from men via taxes and then gives that money to women via social programs. Given that taxes are 75% paid for by men and 80% of social program money goes to women, that represents a $2T/yr wealth transfer from men to women. How is that fair to men? Are women "more equal" than men such that they deserve $2T of men's money per year? Women's "liberty" has lead to the enslavement of men via government.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:15 PM
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Women are human beings worthy of liberty. At the price of men being second class citizens? So you're a female supremacist... get help.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 06:07 PM
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What the fuck does that even mean? The means unless you are giving me the ratio of 18-end of life, the ratios of each age group doesn't mean anything to the overall 18+ ratio without knowing the number of people in each ratio. No scientific evidence of that Plenty, actually. Simply put: "Patriarchy is the price we pay for civilization" If you think you can quit paying the piper, you're wrong. but not surprisingly you would try to make up sexist bullshit. Can men get pregnant? Guess what, reality…
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:50 PM
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Tell that to women We should. Hell, the SCotUS decided in 1918 that conscription and suffrage were intertwined. Yes, everyone conveniently forgot 2 year later when the 19th was adopted. If I could do it now and either stop paying or dramatically reducing what I pay in taxes Talk to women about that. Their vote is what has increase the size of government 2000% relative to GDP since 1920.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:45 PM
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I did sign up, but you can be certain I wouldn't have served if it came down to it. Conscription and voting are intertwined. If you're not going to defend the country, why should you get to tell it what to do? If you're going to weasel out of protecting the country, why should you vote?
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:16 PM
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We either remove women's suffrage or we accept men as second class citizens. This is a MRA group that actually advocates for men (unlike menslib) so which do you think we should support? Women fared a lot better under men-only suffrage than men have fared under women controlled suffrage.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:12 PM
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US demographics are almost dead on 50/50 from 15 to 64 years of age. Ages 15-24 is 1.05 m/f, 25-54 is 1.0 m/f, and 55-64 is 0.93 m/f. Ratios mean nothing without numbers per ratio. Ridiculous comment that doesn't even fit the context. Having men in charge built civilization. Look up matriarchies and see how far they got past mud huts (they don't).
/r/MensRights07/08/19 05:10 PM
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I'm probably gonna get downvoted a lot People who point out that the emperor of equality has no clothes tends to get downvoted here ever since the egalitarians took over this sub.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 03:27 PM
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A country that cannot enlist sufficient willing citizens to defend it when its very existence is at risk is a country not worth defending. Then if you're not willing to sign up for selective service to defend the country, leave. Why should it do anything for you?
/r/MensRights07/08/19 03:25 PM
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Trust me, I'm all for that. Women's suffrage has turned government into a surrogate husband that takes money from men via taxes and then gives that money to women via social programs. Given that taxes are 75% paid for by men and 80% of social program money goes to women, that represents a $2T/yr wealth transfer from men to women.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 03:23 PM
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No, I mean of adult humans in the USA, a little over 52% are women. You are correct that the rest of the difference comes from disenfranchised felons. And you still won't blame men for what they have done with their majority control of the government for a MUCH longer period in history. Yeah, I'm so pissed off that we have civilization. Leave the bullshit spreading in T_D. Ahh, trolling someone's posting history for ad-hom. The mark of a weak mind and a weak argument.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 03:20 PM
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This is the fault of men choosing not to vote No, that's the bullshit deflection I get every time. Let me spell it out for you: Of those who can vote in the USA, 56% are women. And, yes, what women have done with their majority control of government is their fault.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 02:21 PM
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Remember, majority of the people in congress are men ... answering to voters who are 56% women.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:48 PM
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It's the main reason why the Equal Rights Amendment failed in the 1980s. It's also the reason the largest anti-suffragette movement was comprised of women.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:47 PM
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I should not be obligated to fight a war because someone in DC told me to. Then why do you get to vote to tell the guys in DC what to do?
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:39 PM
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Then quit voting. You don't get to violate the autonomy of the country without them risking violating yours.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 12:14 PM
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What makes her immune to the effects of it then? Traditionally, women couldn't vote because women won't be forced into executing the last 300m of foreign policy.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 04:26 AM
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It is ethical and it is right. Potential conscription is the responsibility that goes with the right of suffrage: if the citizenry's votes lead the country to war, the citizens must be willing to supply the force the country uses to exert the voters will. Just because women have gotten away by having rights without responsibilities doesn't untie the two.
/r/MensRights07/08/19 04:22 AM
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Just make sure you don't have casual homophobia/heterophobia by having a preference for straight/gay people....
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:21 PM
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Considering the original claim: Psychology major here. Human psychology is not biologically determined. Well, then let's try this study Or this study There's been a lot of research lately linking physical traits to psychological behavior. It seems impossible to me that psychology is not at least partially biologically determined.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 03:47 PM
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It should be before they are convicted. Unfortunately, that leads to secret courts. I mean, where is Tchulkaturin-1850? I haven't seen him for a while. The jail system won't admit to him being in custody.... And no reporters in courtrooms, keeping us apprised of how the courts work. No citizens watching trials even if there is some special exemption for the press. It's an idea that sounds good, but it's actually quite a bad idea.
/r/MensRights02/07/19 07:25 PM
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Also, of course there's no comment section. Dissenter fixed this, which is why everyone's trying to block it: https://dissenter.com/discussion/begin?url=https://10daily.com.au/views/a190627qmfia/im-all-for-feminism-but-we-need-a-mens-rights-manifesto-20190628
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:48 PM
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Society can't function in a state of cold civil war It's not a civil war. We're in a Palestine-Israel situation: The right just wants to exist and be free to do what they want. The left wants to destroy the right by deplatforming, economic control, and election manipulation. This can only be solved by the left recognizing the right's right to exist, or by it finally going hot and having war decide who's the winner.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 06:41 PM
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Day after google got caught admitting to influencing elections... day before democrat debates... Yeah, not political at all!
/r/MensRights26/06/19 06:56 PM
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https://pluralist.com/feminism-india-woman-baby/?fbclid=IwAR0DMP2cu3i79VLOCr8wh9QuFRCBTgjxxZuwmUiE40Vodh85keODDqanPQU
/r/MensRights26/06/19 05:14 AM
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Not being able to violate your partner's reproductive rights is not 'losing your reproductive rights' 😂 In most women's mind, it is. Not only is it their right to choose not to have a child, it's also their right to get knocked up by the may they choose to get knocked up by. Hell, in India there's a case going on where a guy might get punished by the courts for not doing IVF with his estranged wife.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 02:38 PM
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As a german I cannot wrap my head around you guys going that much into depth because your education system is so greedy. We don't have the taxes to pay for it because we're busy funding 80% of NATO and 20% of the UN and other billions of foreign aid and .... That's really what it comes down to. The USA is the western world's "rich uncle" taking care of everything that we don't have as much to spend on ourselves.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 02:33 PM
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We want more rights for men, and having a good reputation helps that. Like I thought, you can't handle the truth. Women control 56% of suffrage. A good reputation won't help. Politicians thinking we're on the edge of revolt willing to take them out of power is what will change things.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 02:26 PM
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I don't know if you have access to this Journal, or this specific paper or something, but there's only a small paragraph of the abstract available, so I can't read what you've posted. Ahh, I forget sometimes that my work IP has privileges. I understand that is sexual dimorphism among humans, I'm not debating that. We're debating the degrees. And, yeah, as far as strength goes, the degree is that substantial.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 04:05 AM
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That the government or elements think differently do not suddenly make racial nationalism right. But yet everyone thinks that non-white racial nationalism is fine and dandy. Look at all the new segregationist policies in colleges. It's only when whites start to play any kind of identity politics that anyone says "wait up a moment!" Just know that the use of stuff like "honk honk" throws a lot of associations and makes people stop listening to you. I really don't care, because those who would act…
/r/MensRights24/06/19 09:36 PM
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Why? What's wrong with racial nationalism? I mean Malcom X, who was a black nationalist, was celebrated by a government-issued stamp! So apparently racial nationalism is fine, right? Oh, unless it's whites who want racial nationalism... Honk Honk
/r/MensRights24/06/19 04:07 PM
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The average man is not stronger than 99% of women. You might be surprised. Not the study I am remembering/referencing, but very similar data set. ETA: Found the study. Had a hard time because I couldn't remember if it was 99.9% or 99% so I went with the safer number. I was not making the correct claim: "The mean effect size for these sex differences in total and upper body muscle mass and strength is about 3, which indicates less than 10% overlap between the male and female distributions, with 9…
/r/MensRights24/06/19 03:40 PM
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What's wrong with Brave?
/r/MensRights24/06/19 03:27 PM
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Special forces are usually in the 80-90th percentile, when it comes to fitness and strength. And then realize that the 50th percentile (average man) is stronger than 99% of women.... Yer looking for well above 95th percentile for a woman who qualifies.
/r/MensRights24/06/19 07:34 AM
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You have to remember that at least 50% of the mod team here are declared themselves as socialists or communists.... So, yeah, they're SWJs.
/r/MensRights24/06/19 07:31 AM
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Both are gynocentrists. Of course they are. Women control 56% of the vote, after all.
/r/MensRights12/06/19 02:45 PM
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We do not have friends on either side of the political spectrum. Correct, we don't have friends on either side. But we do have enemies on the Democrat side. I also explained how we should not settle for what we consider to be the lesser of two evils. Ought vs Is. I don't give a shit about Ought other than as a goal. We have to deal with the Is. And the current Is means we support the lesser of two evils while attempting to turn that lesser into a good. Otherwise, you fuck over men in the short a…
/r/MensRights12/06/19 02:43 PM
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Democrats and Republicans agree on few core issues, but in regards to men, they are exactly on the same page. Hardly. Republicans mostly don't care about men's rights. Democrats are actively against men's rights.
/r/MensRights11/06/19 04:23 PM
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Men pay 75% of the taxes because women still do the majority of career sacrifice to take care of children. So you imagine you're in some alternate reality where men are attracted to financial success in women the same women are attracted to it in men? Do me a favor: look around, tell me what you see, and I'll do my best to tell you what insanity you're suffering.
/r/MensRights24/05/19 08:57 PM
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Women pay taxes, too. Compared to men? Barely. Men pay 75% of taxes. That's why government has expanded massively since women's suffrage: because government increases size and power at the expense of men. Plus, men benefit from this, too. Compared to women? Barely. Women receive 80% of government welfare. Put these two percentages together, and this represent a $2,000,000,000 transfer of wealth from men to women per year. And you're cool with that, because you're a leftist pretending to be an MR…
/r/MensRights24/05/19 02:37 PM
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Interesting that suddenly in the last 70 years the practices of thousands of years no longer work. Of course not. Women obtained suffrage and government learned it can consolidate power to itself by stealing from men to give to women in order to bribe women's votes. Women have been willing participants in this fleecing of men, expanding government to an unheard of size and scope.
/r/MensRights24/05/19 01:42 PM
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Children cost money. Someone pays for it either way. And those someones can be the parents of the children, or the collective taxes of men. And you choose to fuck men as a whole. And you call yourself a MRA?
/r/MensRights24/05/19 04:59 AM
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So basically you are saying that men should have the right to financially leverage women's sexual organs for their benefit? The other option is that women financially leverage government to have the 75+% of taxes paid by men support their children.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:19 PM
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Perhaps well call this opt-in "marriage" or something like that. Yaknow, like back before the 1960's or so SCotUS decision that unwed mothers should get child support as well.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:17 PM
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Men should be able to opt out and the state cover child rearing costs Yeah, but then men can't opt out of the taxes that the state imposes to cover those child rearing costs. And that's why I'm not much of a fan of LPS and prefer the personal responsibility route.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:16 PM
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Sex or sex? It’s essentially a wholesale redefine of the term ‘gender’ because up to that point, it was actually a synonym for sex that came into usage when there was two broadly used definitions of sex, ie. the act and genetic, and a need to differentiate them in speech became necessary.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:02 PM
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Ignore the other definition on the page! I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist so my argument has any validity! This is, literally, the worst argument to dictionary I've every seen.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 02:53 PM
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Ignore the other definition on the page! I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist so my argument has any validity! This is, literally, the worst argument to dictionary I've every seen.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 12:10 PM
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Ok. I went to bed because I was thinking "holy shit, how can you have it so backwards?". But I was not correct. You're just missing the critical 3rd choice: That most (western) societies today have their gender roles set up that reduce fecundity and advancement in a society compared to natural proclivities, mostly in their attempt to abolish gender, and going back to the natural law will increase both and advance the society faster compared to it's competitors.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 12:09 PM
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Rational creatures with higher brain functions judge the actions of other creatures. I prefer to remain a rational creature with higher brain functions. If you want to fling shit like the primates, go do it elsewhere.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 05:09 AM
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In short, "gender evolved" does not conflict with gender being a social construct. It's even more simple then that: Gender is simultaneously a natural existence and a construct of society. It just so happens that societies which attempt to construct gender in contradiction of the natural existence tend to fail spectacularly. .... which means that gender is a natural construct, and societies forget that at their own peril.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 05:01 AM
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And you are telling me that when the "rule of thumb" was a guideline for men on the size of sticks you should beat your wife with wasn't a common practice? That's a feminist myth. It was never true. Perhaps you should read real history.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 03:43 PM
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In 1969, at the age of 21, McCorvey became pregnant a third time and returned to Dallas. According to McCorvey, friends advised her that she should assert falsely that she had been raped and that she could thereby obtain a legal abortion under Texas's law which prohibited abortion; sources differ over whether the Texas law had such a rape exception.[14][15][16] Due to lack of police evidence or documentation, the scheme was not successful and McCorvey would later admit the situation was a fabric…
/r/MensRights17/05/19 12:03 AM
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Plus rape exemptions (that only account for like 1.9% of abortions) will just encourage false rape claims. Little known fact: Roe v Wade included a false rape allegation in an attempt to get an abortion.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 09:17 PM
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They were worried that they would have to join the draft because for men a requirement before being able to vote is by signing up for the draft. Corollary: this was enforced by a 1918 SCotUS decision that potential conscription was the responsibility that was joined to the right of suffrage. ... conveniently forgotten 2 years later with the 19th Amendment was ratified.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 09:06 PM
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Some researchers wanted to confirm whether it was women's suffrage that caused this [...] So they looked at Switzerland. I still feel that the best study was of the USA because it represented a near-perfect natural experiment. Some states allowed women's suffrage before the 19th, some ratified the 19th, some rejected the 19th but were forced into it anyways. Every state followed the same pattern at the state budget level at the time women's suffrage was allowed in that state: instant near-expone…
/r/MensRights16/05/19 02:46 PM
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This isn't to say that a large enough minority of blokes at certain times in certain places couldn't cause a significant shift, just that it's unlikely IMO. The US revolution was fought with only 3% of the population being actual fighters with the support of 1/3rd of the population. I do realize that collapse is the more likely outcome, but I still hold out hope.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 02:41 PM
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public funding increased because women were allowed to vote, which is still insane. It's far from insane, it's almost proven. The US was a dang near perfect natural experiment. We had states that allowed women's suffrage before the 19th, states which ratified the 19th, and states which reject the 19th but were forced into it due to national ratification. Guess what happened in every state once they allowed women's suffrage, no matter which of the 3 buckets they ran into? State budget increased d…
/r/MensRights16/05/19 02:38 PM
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You know that I get what answer you're trying to pull out of me and it's not gonna happen, right? Of course not. You follow an ideology that is easily disproved and you don't want to admit that to yourself. I'm not ever expecting you to realize that you're wrong; I'm just allowing everyone else to see how you're wrong. Government isn't some alien, abstract big-bad that you don't have a say about. Perhaps you don't understand that power of 56% majority control of suffrage. Let me spell it out thi…
/r/MensRights16/05/19 12:41 AM
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Here's the thing, though. Most government positions on planet Earth, are filled by... ding! ding! ding! Men. So? Who's votes to they need to court to get them elected to those positions?
/r/MensRights15/05/19 11:06 PM
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In fact, I think things have gotten even more extreme since then. Of course they have. What is the source of the problem? Politicians place more responsibility on men (taxes, legalities) in order to bribe the 56% female majority's votes. That hasn't changed, so why would things get better? Where's the breaking point? At what point will men at large wise up to what's being done? That's a good question; the only thing that will solve this mess is men realizing government is robbing from them to bu…
/r/MensRights15/05/19 09:58 PM
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Maybe ironically they know something the smarter people don't. They've figured out that the smarter people funding the government will pay for their kids via taxation and welfare, reducing the resources smarter people have to raise their own children. Well, smart people have figured that out as well, but there's little they can do about it.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 09:31 PM
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Psychology major here. Human psychology is not biologically determined. If that's what you've been taught, look into separated twin behavioral studies. Perhaps your educators are pushing a narrative rather than the truth.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 09:28 PM
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Are you a moron, or do you just play one on reddit?
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:43 PM
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And even in a "good" relationship, it's still 100% the woman's choice. Again with that disconnect.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:24 PM
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No, you're ad-hom'ing my argument because you know you're losing. Concession of defeat accepted.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:24 PM
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So why pretend that the future is already here? Why further pretend that it's going to work out exactly how you think it is towards utopia? We have to deal with the here and now.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:07 PM
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In a good relationship they aren't. So in a "good relationship" the women chooses to temper her decision with the man's desires, making it somehow not still 100% her choice? Get over your pathetic disconnect with logic and reason.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:04 PM
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And here comes more virtual signaling because you're losing the argument!
/r/MensRights15/05/19 08:03 PM
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I'm not trying to make things "the way they used to be". I'm trying to make things functional. If that needs to be done after the collapse, so be it.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 07:34 PM
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If both men and women are liberated from responsibility, who picks up the responsibility to keep society going?
/r/MensRights15/05/19 07:21 PM
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You don't understand that sex has value and that women trade potential sex for favors.... and you call me the incel? Reality belongs here, whether you like it or not.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 07:19 PM
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Just because it is not true in every case does not mean it isn't true in some, even many, cases. What's true in EVERY case is that the abortion happens or doesn't according to the woman's wishes. The man's desires are immaterial.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 07:17 PM
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that both them and their sexual partner did not want? No. Only that their sexual partner did not want. It didn't matter if the man wanted it or not.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 06:11 PM
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You're just as wrong as you were before you tried "being offended" to win the argument. That only works on people who give a fuck about your virtual signaling bullshit. Unfortunately for you, I'm a man.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 05:58 PM
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Fixing the problem is returning the SMP to a logical place. Letting the problem get worse is allowing both individual men and individual women escape responsibility such that men as a whole (via taxes) pick up the burden.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 04:38 PM
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Abortion helps men too, especially in the current social climate. No, abortion harms men. It allows promiscuous women to choose which man to get pregnant by rather than feel the consequences of her actions. That alters the sexual marketplace in a way that detriments men.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 04:36 PM
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And my point is: there is no pendulum of "gender equality". It's never swung to the "protect men" side. The only swing has been "in what way will we protect women?"
/r/MensRights15/05/19 03:35 PM
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We should be supporting abortion if we are to ever achieve the option of legal parental surrender. Which is better for society: People having responsibility for their actions. People being able to absolve themselves of responsibility. The problem can be solve in either direction: men get women's freedom from responsibility, or women get men's responsibility for consequences. Considering that women have lived responsibility free for so long in our society, and that lack of responsibility has burd…
/r/MensRights15/05/19 03:16 PM
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The pendulum swings to and fro. What pendulum? All societies across all time periods have treated the average woman better than they have the average man. The only question is to what degree and if they do so in a traditional or progressive mindset: Traditional mindset is to protect women from bad decisions by not giving them the freedoms to make those bad decisions (restricting their rights). Progressive mindset is to protect women from the consequences of bad decisions by absolving them of the…
/r/MensRights14/05/19 06:26 PM
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Why would there be 4 deductions in one pay period? Something is off here. Most likely: 4 support orders (not 4 kids, 4 separate support orders). These look like all post-tax deductions, so CS rather than alimony is the most likely culprit.
/r/MensRights14/05/19 04:26 PM
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I guarantee you that the child support check has Fed withholdings as well. Actually, it doesn't. Tax on the child support money is paid by the payor. Tax on alimony money ordered before 2019 are paid by the recipient. Alimony orders after 2019 are taxable to the payor.
/r/MensRights14/05/19 04:23 PM
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Deliberate unemployment = they keep assessing you at the theoretical rate you could have earned. Which is involuntary servitude, and unconstitutional.
/r/MensRights14/05/19 04:22 PM
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This is called “imputed income”, what the court thinks you should be responsible for earning. And that is textbook indentured servitude, which is unconstitutional per the 13th Amendment.
/r/MensRights14/05/19 04:11 PM
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Because women control 56% of suffrage?
/r/MensRights13/05/19 10:49 PM
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You sound like the frog who helps the scorpion cross the river...
/r/MensRights13/05/19 10:48 PM
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So far as I know, Israel is the only country with compulsory military service for women as well as men. Important to note that in Israel women's compulsory service is shorter than men's compulsory service.
/r/MensRights07/05/19 02:08 PM
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How do these weak cunts plan on enforcing something like that? How do they plan to defend their borders once they have implemented it?
/r/MensRights29/04/19 07:08 PM
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"Men and women can't possible be equal so give up!" argument is not new And yet has never been solved. And you ignore it because it demonstrates the failure of your ideology. You live in fantasy land and reject any argument that shows how your ideology won't work. I'm done. You offer no answers other than "Well it'll work, I promise! Something that's never been accomplished will magically work this time!"
/r/MensRights29/04/19 03:59 PM
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We don't live in a democratic country, we live in a constitutional republic. I don't know if you've noticed but we don't allow direct democracy for a reason. And what politician is going to make sure he loses the election by campaigning on responsibility for women? Our founding fathers directly opposed it because they feared the tyranny of the majority. And we failed our founding fathers when we allowed universal suffrage. Egalitarianism WILL work and it is the only thing that will work, because…
/r/MensRights29/04/19 03:37 PM
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The problem is said women are operating under the Feminist mind set "Rights without Responsibilities", that is EXACTLY why women must be forced to accept responsibility. And how do you get them to force responsibility when they hold the majority of suffrage???!!!??? Your argument defeats itself. Like I said, your only choice here is which way to lose. Egalitarianism not only can't work, but attempting to seek it harms men!
/r/MensRights29/04/19 03:04 PM
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Egalitarianism means equality even when it's not pretty i.e. Drafting women even though that may mean they die way more than men, you don't do any "balancing" based on sex because sex is irrelevant. Which will never happen. Under egalitarianism, men become "persons" while women become "persons (plus reproduction)". As long as women are the reproduction bottleneck, it's not that society won't treat women and individually disposable as they men, it's that they can't treat women as individually dis…
/r/MensRights29/04/19 01:16 PM
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Only for men. It used to mean that the woman consented to sex and the man consented to the use of his resources. Now it's only men; and now men don't get released from the marital duties when divorced.
/r/MensRights26/04/19 06:58 PM
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We need Egalitarianism not Feminism. Egalitarianism is going to the same place as feminism (men as second class citizens), based on the same promise (equality), due to the same flaw (men and women are not interchangeable). Society will never hold women as individually disposable as it holds men. Because of that, it will never hold women to the same level of responsibility as it holds men. Which means that when you equalize rights (because that's easy) men become second class citizens. Egalitaria…
/r/MensRights26/04/19 06:51 PM
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Yes, to raise force quickly, a woman can take a bullet just like any man can. That's not the goal of the military. The goal is to be an effective fighting force. If Group A would like to permanently surrender the right to vote in exchange for remaining off the draft then that is acceptable, you don't get a voice in the country's leadership if you won't accept the consequences of that leadership. Trust me I agree here. But that'll take a revolution to happen. If a woman gets pregnant after being …
/r/MensRights26/04/19 06:44 PM
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A law must be passed preventing a sexist draft that is the only way. Problem is, drafting women makes no sense. What is the goal of a draft? To raise force quickly. If you have group A where 2/100 will meet minimum requirements and group B where 80+/100 will meet minimum requirements and you can process X draftees a day, does it make sense to include group A in your draft if group A is easily identified to be excluded? Additionally, you can't draft a woman who doesn't want to be drafted. All she…
/r/MensRights26/04/19 04:19 PM
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Why should anyone have to be ripped out of their home to go fight a war they don't want to fight? Because conscription is the responsibility that corresponds to the right of suffrage. If you have the right to direct the country's actions, you have the responsibility, if necessary, to enforce those actions.
/r/MensRights25/04/19 02:22 PM
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I think the actual problem here is that you've mischaracterized the cause of the sub.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 07:45 PM
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Your personal opinion disagrees with me, and I can respect that, but if you are going to go further, to a generalized assertion about all women, then I'd ask for explanation validating your contention Women have consistently voted for larger and larger amounts of government welfare, more intrusion into personal lives, and other desires that scream "take care of me because I'm not responsible for myself". Of course, men being the majority of the tax base, men end up subsidizing women's lives via …
/r/MensRights17/04/19 07:03 PM
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She's not the average woman. The end results of women's suffrage disagrees with your assertion.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 06:25 PM
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Or keyboards!
/r/MensRights17/04/19 04:15 PM
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It never was about equality. Even the first wave of feminism wanted men's rights but rejected men's responsibilities. Furthermore, there is no equality between men and women. Even seeking equality between men and women creates a system of men as second-class-citizens. The rights can be made similar, but society will never hold women to the same level of responsibility.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 04:06 PM
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when will women actually start taking and accepting responsibility for their actions??? When society holds women to the same level of individual disposability as they do men. i.e. never.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 03:50 PM
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If the hospital accidently gives a woman the wrong baby when she leaves, she can sue that hospital for significant sums of money. Yet when a man is tricked into raising a child that's not his, he needs to continue supporting that child...
/r/MensRights17/04/19 03:45 PM
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You have to remember that the average woman rejects agency. She does not want accountability and responsibility for her decisions.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 03:43 PM
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So the idea is to put the hypothetical welfare of the enemy country's women ahead of the welfare of Australian troops? Really? Well those other country's women's inconveniences are more important than our country's male soldier's lives, donchaknow?
/r/MensRights09/04/19 06:47 PM
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Stop lying.
/r/MensRights09/04/19 03:11 PM
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The tax cuts for everyone except the top 5% of earners are a PITTANCE Of course they are. Everyone other than the top 5% pays a pittance of tax. The top 5% pays 60% of all income taxes. Of course any tax break is going to save them more!
/r/MensRights09/04/19 02:38 PM
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The right wing doesn't care about men's rights. The left wing is actively against men's rights.
/r/MensRights09/04/19 02:21 PM
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Fine... it's "real" work. Now pay your taxes on it.
/r/MensRights09/04/19 02:15 PM
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These values shouldn't just be 'masculine' but a natural part of society. But they are masculine, which is why men built civilization. [T]here are fundamental values which make culture work: equity, competition, judgement, taking what works, discarding what doesn't. What we've done as a society is allow women too much influence over our culture and we are replacing those values with female base values: equality, non-competition (everything has value), non-judgement, taking from what works, helpi…
/r/MensRights09/04/19 01:40 PM
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Equalitarism Creates a system with men as second class citizens. Under equality, men become "persons" while women become "persons (plus reproduction)". Society will never hold women to the same level of individual disposaiblity as it holds men. Because of that, it will never enforce the same responsibilities on women as it enforces upon men. That means once egalitarians start talking about equal rights (cuz that's the easy part to fix), then they have guaranteed men to second class citizenry. Eg…
/r/MensRights09/04/19 03:46 AM
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First wave feminism wanted men's rights but rejected men's responsibilities. Second wave feminism was about reducing women's responsibilities to society. Third wave feminism is about increasing men's responsibilities to women.
/r/MensRights09/04/19 03:45 AM
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Facts: the study above which you obviously didn't read. The fact that the exact same thing happened in the UK (1919), France (1945) and Switzerland (1971) when they allowed women's suffrage. There is one factor: when women get to vote men's money into larger government to serve women.
/r/MensRights05/04/19 03:54 PM
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Believe whatever you want, pal. I'll trust in the facts.
/r/MensRights04/04/19 08:50 PM
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You are why the term "Leftist MRA" is an oxymoron.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 08:58 PM
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Assuming this is true, It sounds like we need more feminist movements in order to promote social services for men and women alike Considering that men pay 75% of taxes and women receive 80% of government welfare (because women control 56% of suffrage), which represents a wealth transfer of $2T/yr from men to women.... I think you're full of shit. How about men keep their own money and they'll be MUCH better off than under your socialist dystopia.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 08:00 PM
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The mothers were still around until the males became juveniles, did they not?
/r/MensRights03/04/19 06:52 PM
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You'd have to make an argument before there is one to respond to. Protip: "the elders" meant the adult male elephants. Ya know, from the context of who they were able to transport and who they couldn't.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 06:34 PM
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It's like you read the article and didn't comprehend a word of it. You even misrepresent the quote because you don't understand context.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 06:19 PM
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So you care enough to call me wrong, but not enough to post the evidence. Right.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 03:24 PM
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Then do your own homework.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 01:55 PM
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The radicals have controlled feminism's direction since the early eighties. Since the beginning, really. The first wave of feminism was about getting women men's right while rejecting men's responsibilities. Every single wave of feminism was a female supremacy movement. It's just harder to hide that fact now.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 12:36 PM
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Saudi arabia Yeah, someone brought up SA to me a long time ago, so I actually looked into it. They're not massively expanding. They yo-yo all over the place based on the price of oil. The british goverment started serious expansion in the 19th century well before giving women the vote. Nope, considering they gave women suffrage even before the USA did (1919). Oh, was it the early 1900's that was the issue? Busted there too. Switzerland started expanding massively when they granted women's suffra…
/r/MensRights03/04/19 12:31 PM
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If you'll accept an example that isn't human (Elephants are long term parental upbringing and an intelligent species, like humans) then this should clear up that argument.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 12:28 PM
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That is a good question. It's been demonstrated albeit in a species other than human.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 12:27 PM
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Oh, you're asking me to do your homework for you so you can actually have an argument? So you can criticize my summary rather than the source? Fine, here goes: The USA was a natural experiment in studying the effects of women's suffrage. We had states that allowed women's suffrage before the 19th, and even states that were forced to allow women's suffrage (they voted against the 19th). Every single state started increasing size of government as soon as they allowed women's suffrage. Whether they…
/r/MensRights03/04/19 12:25 PM
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It's like you didn't read the study at all. Feel free to pull the wool over your own eyes, but don't bullshit everyone else in your willful ignorance.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 02:49 AM
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when it says that women raise criminals and drug addicts, couldnt that have still happened if men raised them? For all the ranting feminists make about father's being replaceable, it ends up that it's mothers which are less necessary for upbringing by a long shot. Single fathers that raise children do have slightly worse outcomes than dual-parent families, to the tune of 5-10%. Single mothers are worse by 200-300%. Of course, dual-parent families also have criminal/drug children, but they're the…
/r/MensRights03/04/19 01:17 AM
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Unless you believe all societies/cultures are equal, then open borders is a MRM issue. And you do believe that, then you don't belong here complaining about any culture. Your argument self-invalidates.
/r/MensRights03/04/19 01:12 AM
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Women became a majority electorate in 1964 which was long after the establishment of welfare. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH You'll get the repost again for this bullshit point: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/WashTimesWomensSuff112707.html http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf Excerpt: Academics have long pondered why the government started growing precisely when it did. The federal government, aside from periods of wartime, consumed about 2 percent to 3 perc…
/r/MensRights02/04/19 11:51 PM
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They didn’t control 56% in 1932 when the new deal was dangled in front of America Correct. Back then they only controlled around 53% (there were less men disenfranchised as felons). http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/WashTimesWomensSuff112707.html http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf Excerpt: Academics have long pondered why the government started growing precisely when it did. The federal government, aside from periods of wartime, consumed about 2 percent to 3 perce…
/r/MensRights02/04/19 11:49 PM
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women institute welfare state Franklin D. Roosevelt was male and the new deal very much focused on the inability of men to get jobs. Since so many people misunderstand this point: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/WashTimesWomensSuff112707.html http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf Excerpt: Academics have long pondered why the government started growing precisely when it did. The federal government, aside from periods of wartime, consumed about 2 percent to 3 percent…
/r/MensRights02/04/19 11:44 PM
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what gender do you think pays the most taxes there? Men, as men always do. But the government doesn't expand massively until after women's suffrage. Circular argument. Now in which country are you claiming that 80% of government welfare goes to women. Study I saw was for the USA. Unfortunately, I no longer have the link. I misunderstood the "where" in your question. I thought where I was making the claim rather than where it happened.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 11:44 PM
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When did saudi arabia get Women's suffrage? Non Sequitur. Where exactly are you claiming this is happening? "Women's suffrage has been shown to turn governments against men in a very repeatable and predictable way." You've not looked at irish history I take it. Non-sequitur sez what?
/r/MensRights02/04/19 09:06 PM
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Hey, if 75% of taxes are paid by men and 80% of government welfare goes to women, representing $2T/yr of men's money subsidizing women somehow not "turning against men" then I'd hate to see what you think governments turning against men really is...
/r/MensRights02/04/19 08:57 PM
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It's still controlled by what will get that representative elected. And when women control 56% of suffrage it becomes no surprise that taxes, mostly paid by men, have increased 2000% relative to GDP since women's suffrage and that the majority of government welfare goes to women.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 08:54 PM
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Source? This is hardly a contentious claim. But if you'd like a boatload of supporting evidence, look here. A few highlights: In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997 72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of al…
/r/MensRights02/04/19 08:51 PM
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Your admission of conceding the debate is accepted.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 06:14 PM
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Well think about it logically: women's suffrage is a win/win for politicians. They get to buy women's votes by voting for more welfare (given to women) that men will pay for via taxes and increase their (government) power at the same time. Those who aren't for "more for women" get voted out of office by women's 56% control of suffrage.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 06:11 PM
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Equality means equality. "Until you can demonstrate a way of convincing society to treat men and women as equally disposable, this fantasy of equality between men and women cannot exist and is not a valid argument." --Me
/r/MensRights02/04/19 06:09 PM
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The egalitarianism sub is over there. Unfortunately, egalitarianism creates a system of female supremacy. Men become "persons" and women become "persons (plus reproduction)". There's a reason that each sex has a differing role in a well-functioning society: because men and women are not interchangeable. Equal rights creates the very system we complain about here, because without requal responsibility (and women won't be held to equal responsibility because reproduction) men become second class c…
/r/MensRights02/04/19 05:56 PM
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The first American revolution was fought over taxation without representation. I believe the second will be fought over representation without taxation.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 05:45 PM
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This sub is about men's rights. Women's suffrage has been shown to turn governments against men in a very repeatable and predictable way. Why should it not be discussed in a sub which analyzes why men's rights have gone downhill?
/r/MensRights02/04/19 05:39 PM
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married parents are just as capable. Hardly. Yes, married parents can still raise criminals and druggies; but to call them just as capable with the overwhelming percentage of criminals and druggies come from single mother households is just not reasonable.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 05:36 PM
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Then it should be easy for you to point out where it's factually incorrect, no?
/r/MensRights02/04/19 03:43 PM
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I doubt as well. It's not like this is the first time in human history we've had feminism.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 03:35 PM
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In her dissenting opinion, Judge Maria Elena Cruz wrote that Torres and Terrell signed a contract when they preserved the embryos that both parents would have to provide “express, written consent” for the embryos to be used. Torres even testified acknowledging that “we did sign a contract and we agreed to these provisions.” Woman's feelings > Contract law I can't even begin to describe how fucked up this is.
/r/MensRights29/03/19 07:48 PM
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Too bad the government doesn’t represent the people who fund it. They represent the people who vote, and in every first world democracy or republic I've researched, women control the majority of suffrage.
/r/MensRights19/03/19 07:26 PM
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You, like the other poster, are attempting to conflate gays with the LGBT movement. Stop moving the goalposts. The LGBT movement was created by the same people who created NAMBLA. It's the LGBT movement that is in support for this young kid dancing in front of adult men. The LGBT movement is pushing for acceptance of pedophilia. If you don't like that, disassociate with the movement.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 09:47 PM
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And neither of those societies are anywhere near as friendly to feminism as we are. That's why they're on the rise while we're on the decline.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 07:17 PM
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And hows that gonna happen? Society will collapse, as it has every time in history we've tried feminism.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 07:02 PM
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You're running into another problem which is due to biological differences between men and women. Men have flatter bell curves than women in genetic expression, leading to men being demographically overrepresented at the top and the bottom. As an example, while an IQ of 120+ is 2:1 men:women, once we are looking at 170+ the gap is 6:1. Women, of course, will out number men at the average when the male and female average is the same. In short: mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive pot…
/r/MensRights15/03/19 06:50 PM
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Still, I don't think most gay people are pedos. Never made that claim. Only claim I made is that the movement many of them are in supports pedophilia.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:58 PM
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NAMLA: well some weirdo group exists, I don't support it, you don't support it, is it even relevant? The LGBT movement, the movement to normalize homosexuality, allows the "NORTH AMERICAN MAN/BOY LOVE ASSOCIATION" to march with them. The argument: "see? I told you. We warned that if we normalized homosexuality it would result in normalizing pedophilia." Considering pedofiles were marching in the same marches to normalize homosexuality, how would it not lead to also normalizing pedophilia? They w…
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:30 PM
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So, again, Nambla was founded 1978 and wholesale condemned by 1979, according to that link You obviously didn't read the link: "In 1984 the debate on man/boy love shifted to the West Coast. In San Francisco, efforts to remove NAMBLA from the annual Lesbian/Gay Freedom Day Parade failed, as they had in New York." and later: "See also the 1992 The Responsive Community, which says: The annual Gay Pride March in New York, on the other hand, allows NAMBLA to participate because the march does not exc…
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:25 PM
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You are moving the goalposts towards persecution of gays. I'm talking about the LGBT movement which was the push to normalize homosexuality. So allow me to just repeat my reply to another poster: Nambla was never a recognized part of the LGBT movement Oh, it most definitely was. and even if it was, its has been wholesale condemned as long as i can remember in my lifetime. Well they are definitely attempting to realign themselves with lgbt TL;DR: I don't really give a shit about anyone's sexualit…
/r/MensRights15/03/19 03:16 PM
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Until we are all in one circle singing Kumbaya, total world population doesn't matter. Might makes right; Numbers make might; Women make numbers.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 03:01 PM
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Right paired with responsibility. In the USA, a 1918 SCotUS decision tied the right of suffrage to the responsibility of conscription. ... Conveniently forgotten 2 years later when the 19th passed.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 02:52 PM
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Nambla was never a recognized part of the LGBT movement Oh, it most definitely was. and even if it was, its has been wholesale condemned as long as i can remember in my lifetime. Well they are definitely attempting to realign themselves with lgbt
/r/MensRights15/03/19 02:41 PM
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No, it couldn't. As a quick example, let's look at murder. The laws, as written, are gender neutral in regards to murder. But the application of the laws are far from that. There are many defenses a woman can use in a murder trial that a man cannot. It's because women are persons plus reproduction. Society will not hold women as individually dispoable as it holds men. It will never hold women to the same level of responsibility due to that. Which means when equality pushes for equal rights, men …
/r/MensRights15/03/19 08:43 AM
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Do you think all gays are pedophiles? No, I don't. But there's a difference between gays and the LGBT movement that pushed to normalize homosexuality.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 08:39 AM
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you find people in the comments saying "see? I told you. We warned that if we normalized homosexuality it would result in normalizing pedophilia." Considering that NMBLA was/is part of the LGBT movement, how would it not lead to normalizing pedophilia?
/r/MensRights15/03/19 08:12 AM
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Protip: All forms of "equality" are for female superiority. Under "equality", men become people and women become people plus (reproduction). All movements seeking equality harm men.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 08:10 AM
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In other words: you admit that you can't debate the facts and are going to ad-hom as your agument. Your concession of defeat is accepted.
/r/MensRights14/03/19 07:52 PM
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Well let's start with your list of claims about women: Women cannot leave SA without their husbands written authority they cannot drive without their husbands authority Since we're on the subject of marriage, let's discuss that SA allows polygamy, which heavily favors women. they cannot go out alone without a male escort Obviously, then, men are responsible for women's safety. they can be raped by their husbands with no recourse And men can still be charged with failing to support their wives. t…
/r/MensRights13/03/19 08:42 PM
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Exactly. You'll see "women this, women that" and they'll ignore everything to which the men are beholden.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 07:01 PM
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And what are the conditions of the average man in SA?
/r/MensRights13/03/19 06:46 PM
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Saudia Arabia/Iran/China today are better to women? Than they are to their men? Yes. To think otherwise is to ignore the conditions of the average men in those societies.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 05:45 PM
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Every culture across every time has treated the average woman better than the average man. The idea that societies ever favored men is due to the apex fallacy. Men were more often at the top of society.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 03:26 PM
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Ahh.. women in the fuck zone. Why do they think men are just vending machines that they put sex into to get a relationship out?
/r/MensRights11/03/19 10:15 PM
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Too bad for her. She should have been wiser on who she allowed between her legs.
/r/MensRights07/03/19 11:34 PM
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Her body. Her rights. Her responsibility.
/r/MensRights07/03/19 10:51 PM
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Basically it's good for him to say men are to blame for fatherlessness, and yet bad for him to say men are important to raising children. Let's just break this down for a second: If men don't matter in raising children, then why is fatherlessness a problem in the first place? I guess expecting consistency from feminists is asking for too much...
/r/MensRights01/03/19 08:56 PM
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I'd be careful with the word "revolution" because it might be spun to imply an armed revolution, which obviously isn't what we want, we want a social and political movement, which is what we are. Except, and let's be honest here, an armed revolution or the threat thereof is what it will take to end government discrimination against men. Because anything short of that threat will be laughed at by politicians as they pander to the 56% female majority of suffrage.
/r/MensRights27/02/19 09:42 PM
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Women hitting men will only stop once there are consequences to their actions that override the desire to strike the guy. Legal? Won't happen. We, as a society, will never punish women hitting men the way we do men hitting women. Shame? Women don't feel shame when striking men and the current "you go girl" society would refuse to shame a woman for striking a man. Physical retaliation? That's the only one of these 3 that has a chance of working, because on average men are much larger and stronger…
/r/MensRights24/02/19 07:48 PM
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Nope. What is going to happen is that people will demand for the draft to abolished. Because countries where men and women both face mandatory service don't exist.... And on top of that, it doesn't matter if they remove the draft now. If they need it in the future, they'll reinstate it.
/r/MensRights24/02/19 06:25 PM
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Yes, possible, but remember, advancement comes in combat, not desk jobs, so men will be gaining rank quickly in that scenario. So? We're talking about draftees. They don't fucking care about advancement. Third, in high tech combat, the war will be from the air mostly, grunts mopping up. This is a common misconception that is entirely untrue. May take some time, but they will be in combat roles if it ever comes to that. Or they'll get pregnant to get shipped stateside.
/r/MensRights24/02/19 06:23 PM
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In the 1950's, quality of life was higher. In the 1950's, only men had jobs. Now school tuition is through the roof Rising consistently with the amount of FASA (federal student welfare) house prices are through the roof Because cheap housing is gobbled up by assistance, leading to high crime areas nobody wants to live in if they have a choice. And governments can't afford to spend on infrastructure. Because they're spending it all on government pensions and social welfare. Like most idiot social…
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:06 PM
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Their bans weren't going hard on them, their bans were straight trolling. From what I've read, the bans were each players top solo queue. So even though they were all supports, there is at least some merit to it.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 03:49 PM
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Strange that when the top tax bracket went down, taxes collected went up... Supply side economics has worked consistently throughout many time periods and countries. "Trickle-down" is a strawman argument.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 03:45 PM
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I'll hand it to Bernie. He actually has a platform rather than identity politics like the rest of the democrat candidates. I will give him respect for that. The problem is his platform is bad for America and would send it to ruin.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:15 AM
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Socialism is not morally bankrupt. Humans are. If the "problem" with a system for managing humans is that humans don't "behave correctly", then the problem isn't with the humans... it's that the system is shit.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:11 AM
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Socialism is redistributing money. If it comes from men and goes to women then so be it, nothing sexist here. In the USA men pay 75% of taxes; women receive 80% of government welfare. It's a wealth transfer to the tune of $2T per year. It got so big because women have used their 56% majority of suffrage to consistently vote for more taxes and more welfare. There's everything sexist about it.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:07 AM
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Bernie Sanders is the first major politician to use the term "military industrial complex" since President Eisenhower over 50 years ago. Does Ron Paul not exist in your world?
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:04 AM
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Well, feminists and the liberal crowd think that men can be women, so why can't objects also be women?
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:00 AM
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Women are treated like children when it comes to that and I don't understand why. Because women control 56% of suffrage and any politician that started treating women as adults (on the responsibility side) would be voted out of office.
/r/MensRights21/02/19 09:43 PM
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I made a post about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4gfp9s/women_make_up_56_of_suffrage_in_the_usa/
/r/MensRights21/02/19 03:57 PM
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As an FYI: women hold 56% of the suffrage in the USA. That means that women's concerns hold a 12 point lead. How massive is a 12 point lead? It's so massive that 21% of women would have to sit at home for men and women to have a 50/50 vote. It's so massive that if 10% of women and all men decided that continually voting "more for women" wasn't right, that "more for women" would still win. And that's why government, taxes (mostly from men), and government welfare (mostly to women) have grown sign…
/r/MensRights21/02/19 03:29 PM
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If men are dangerous, why are you attempting to provoke us?
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:49 PM
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If people come at you in a group, representing deadly force by numbers, it is legally respected, in most US States, to use deadly force to defend yourself.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:43 PM
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MR (the sub) heavily leans right. Hahahahaahaha. This sub leans heavily left. The majority of the MRM is FAR more to the right than this sub.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:36 PM
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First it should be noted that Trump isn't speaking to all, he speaks to white men While constantly talking about record low black/woman/latino unemployment?
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:31 PM
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Now, that doesn’t mean that I disagree with you, but if the general election was based on voters, Clinton would be #45. Exactly, and if the SuperBowl was based on offensive yards.... well then it wouldn't be football, now would it?
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:29 PM
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When you split people up into tribes that they didn't choose to be in, and then paint them as a universal oppressor, you inevitably reach this type of tribal warfare. Humans are tribal by default. That's why multiculturalism doesn't work. The way around it is to make the whole group the tribe, which is why nationalism is returning in a number of countries.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:26 PM
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You get accustomed to the projection.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 10:03 PM
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"All men are dangerous" And yet you seem to show no fear while agitating them...
/r/MensRights20/02/19 04:52 PM
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This has happened before, and because we don't learn from history we'll likely repeat it again: What price are you willing to pay for "equality"? (legal download, book is out of copyright). "Unwin analyzes 80 primitive cultures and a number of past empires and finds that, without exception, the level of advancement or decline of all cultures is directly tied to the level of regulation of female sexuality. His historical examples include the Sumerians, Babylonians, Athenians, Romans, Teutons, and…
/r/MensRights18/02/19 07:10 AM
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You can have de jure equality under the law, but the fact that society will never find women as individually disposable as it finds men will mean that we will not have equality under de facto.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 07:01 AM
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You cannot have gender equality in a sexually dimorphic species.
/r/MensRights18/02/19 04:13 AM
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The birth rates of migrants tend to fall after 1 or 2 generations and they're still just a small minority in Europe. Which was why Germany was predicted to be a Muslim country by 2060...
/r/MensRights17/02/19 11:05 PM
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No, it's example of human hubris that they think they are better than tradition, yet keep failing and having to return to it for survival. Really, you sound like one of those people who shout that "real socialism hasn't been tried yet" and ignoring all the death and destruction in the history of every attempt of it.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 09:59 PM
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So there is just a few of the laws that could be made gender neutral that are clearly currently not. And my question is, given the USA examples of murder, what difference will that make towards making the punishments for murder more equal? How will it remove the woman-only defenses that are sure to come?
/r/MensRights17/02/19 09:54 PM
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If we continue on the path we are on, society will collapse. Once it collapses and the "male role" is no longer 99% safe, women will demand traditional roles and they'll get them. Or we can be like Europe and import millions of men who demand traditional roles, which the European women either flock to them or be cowed by them, and traditional roles will resume.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 09:52 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Whenever somebody says anything is "inevitable," it often relies on the assumption that people, society, and even a species never evolves. No, it relies on the fact that we've tried this several times in history and that either society has imploded, been conquered, or revolted. This is not the first time in history what we've had feminism.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 09:50 PM
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Going back to the way things were in the past is rarely a viable solution. Going back to traditional gender roles is inevitable. Either we go back by choice because we realize that natural gender roles are better for men, women, and society... Or we go back because our separation from them causes society to collapse and they become necessary for survival.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 08:32 PM
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The third option is - gender neutral laws. Which will mean nothing, because application of the law will not be gender neutral in a sexually dimorphic species! Ill give you an example: where is the law not gender neutral regarding murder? Hint: it's not. Where is the application of the law not gender neutral about murder: almost everywhere. Women have multiple defenses against murder charges that men can't use. So how do you plan to make the murder laws more neutral than neutral to get gender neu…
/r/MensRights17/02/19 08:29 PM
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A third option would be good but where is it? No one seems to support actual equality, There is no such thing as equality in a sexually dimorphic species. That's why there is no 3rd option.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 08:05 PM
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In a traditional society, men do the work necessary to keep society going and get rewarded for it. In a progressive/feminist society, men do the work necessary to keep society going and get punished for it. I can tell you which of those two I'd rather be under and is better for men.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 08:02 PM
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Beyond these women's comments, let's throw out some real numbers: A single mother of two can qualify for $37k cash equivalent in government support. Add 10k/yr for the man to have his own spending money and the taxes on top of all of that (because the $37k/yr is not taxed) and we end up with around $60k/yr. What percentage of earners make $60k/yr or more? It's 1/3rd. That means women have used government to replace 2/3rds of all men as marriage material. It's actually a better deal for the woman…
/r/MensRights15/02/19 05:13 PM
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I have seen far too many people ranting and raving about some small detail in total ignorance of the larger picture or complete system. This video is a great example of that situation.
/r/MensRights14/02/19 10:53 PM
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I know you recognize my summation of the first 3 waves. I'm finally starting to recognize the 4th wave as separate from the 3rd (-ish) 3rd wave's goal is to increase men's responsibility towards women. 4th wave builds upon that slightly to actively call for the removal of men from positions of power so that women can take them. Because of how I view the 3rd, it's still difficult to see the 4th wave as a distinct new wave with a new goal, but lately they have shifted focus from the initial thrust…
/r/MensRights14/02/19 12:35 AM
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You will quickly find out there there are only 2 types of feminists: The ones who hate men. The ones who claim "not all feminists" when someone points to group #1, but does nothing to confront the man-hate in the group The ones who actually attempt to challenge the man-hate but get shit on so hard by groups #1 and #2 that they no longer consider themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights13/02/19 10:29 PM
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I believe that women should be working and that it's better to slowly get rid of the traditional marriage as it's pretty bad for men. Traditional marriage is good for men and good for society. The problem is that traditional marriage doesn't exist anymore. Instead we have woman-take-all situation where either she takes from him by his choice or she'll take from him at government gunpoint if she leaves for any reason.
/r/MensRights13/02/19 10:14 PM
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It also includes legal custody without any physical custody. It could be the case that the dad gets no visitation, but is still legally allowed to take part in decisions about the child (legal custody).
/r/MensRights12/02/19 10:43 PM
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Pedos should be shot to death while being hung. Your mind has changed.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 03:54 PM
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The first wave was about women getting the right to vote Without the responsibility of conscription. First wave wanted men's rights, but refused to be burdened with men's responsibilities.
/r/MensRights07/02/19 03:51 PM
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What facts? Again, you have posted nothing that counters what I have said.
/r/MensRights07/02/19 03:46 PM
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So why not work hard and BECOME the "top brass" of the makeup indus- Because they can't. In any competition between men and women, men will win. Males are more variable than females (this is not just a human thing). Because of that, when you look for the best of the best you will find more men than women in that group. Same is true for the bottom, but we rarely compete to be the worst.
/r/MensRights07/02/19 12:30 AM
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Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing.
/r/MensRights07/02/19 12:26 AM
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Your first link is shit, calling the pay gap a "tax" The second link doesn't take in account the amount paid to each gender. Your third link has the same problem.
/r/MensRights06/02/19 10:35 PM
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Yes, I am aware that women pay 25% of the taxes while receiving 80% of the government welfare. Where do you think I calculated the $2T/yr?
/r/MensRights06/02/19 04:05 PM
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I know that we are. I'm preparing for the downfall.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 10:31 PM
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There have been matriarchal societies (even today). The problem is that they don't advance compared to patriarchal societies and either self-implode or are conquered.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:52 PM
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Do women have profoundly less empathy for men than vice versa? Studies have shown that both women (strongly) and men (weakly) show stronger concern for women's issues over men's issues. And is this a fundamental problem in achieving true "gender equality"? You cannot have gender equality in a sexual dymorphic species.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:23 PM
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I believe that legal equality is not just obtainable, but fundamentally easy in a functional democracy. That doesn’t mean that you legislate gender roles, but rather that you more explicitly define the rights and privileges of an individual regardless of born quantifiers. And then women use their 56% control of suffrage to syphon $2T/yr from men to women via government....
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:21 PM
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Sometimes women do have more babies in order to help the nation. Palestine is a recent example (Yasser Arafat considered the womb of the Palestinian woman to be his greatest weapon, and history has proven him correct).
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:19 PM
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Traditionally: Men perform their ultimate service to society by risking their lives to provide violence in defense of it. Women perform their ultimate service to society by risking their lives giving birth to the next generation.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 07:14 PM
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Ahh.. the "one world" argument. If only total population matters, then culture is meaningless. You live in a fantasy land where cultures don't clash against each other, where society has no meaning. In that case, what business do you have complaining about the current culture? Humans will still survive. There's no need for the MRM under the worldview you are expressing. In short: you are contradicting yourself by posting that argument here, invalading the argument by it's very mention.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 07:01 PM
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And what ratio of men to women would you use? [In the previous social order] "you would maximize the number of women saved." [In the current social order] "you'd maximize the number of men saved." ps: love your ad homs, they show your true character lol Ad hom is "you're an idiot/bad person so your argument is invalid" I'm calling you an idiot while destroying your argument. So you're either a total fucking idiot or a troll. In either case, everyone viewing knows you've lost the argument and you…
/r/MensRights05/02/19 06:59 PM
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I'll repeat myself because then you can truly feel like the fucking moron you are: [In the previous social order] "you would maximize the number of women saved." [In the current social order] "you'd maximize the number of men saved."
/r/MensRights05/02/19 06:23 PM
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Cleverly avoided any direct answer. My apologies for thinking you could read and think above a 3rd grade level and realize that I stated "no, I would not put equal numbers in" and gave my reasoning for why.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 05:05 PM
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Which ratio maximizes the society's chance of survival and success? In the days when the rules were conceived: when men were men; when women gave birth to the next generation and motivated men to marriage material, you would maximize the number of women saved. In today's society, where men accomplish and women take and rarely reproduce, you'd maximize the number of men saved.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 04:35 PM
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However feminists insist that safety advice should not be given because there should be zero risk of assault for women. One of the most misunderstood things in this entire debate is that men and women conceptualize risk in entirely different ways. Men see risk as a scale where doing certain things either increase or decrease your chance of something bad happening. Women see risk as a dichotomy, where either you are at risk and something bad will happen, or you are not at risk because you've done…
/r/MensRights05/02/19 03:36 PM
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Like most people, you don't understand traditional roles: that women's needs come first Society comes first. Both men and women serve society in separate but complementary roles. that male victims aren't important Entirely untrue. that men are disposable This is a facet of biology, not traditional roles. Abandoning traditional roles makes it worse because it makes it more difficult for men to provide value in order to offset their greater individual disposaiblity.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 03:16 PM
1

If two things aren’t interchangeable they are different No duh. Now, where did I make the claim that men and women have to be identical to be equal?
/r/MensRights05/02/19 12:28 AM
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And where did I make that claim? You have nothing twice over.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 12:21 AM
1

Considering that's what the majority of them stem from, how are they not?
/r/MensRights05/02/19 12:20 AM
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Smashing rebuttal. Since your entire argument is "how dare you not believe what I believe" you have nothing.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 12:18 AM
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Simple: because the entire idea behind "toxic masculinity" is that men are flawed women.
/r/MensRights04/02/19 07:02 PM
1

What is a logical argument in favor of gender roles and why they are necessary in our society? Men and women are not equal nor interchangeable; meaning that the differences upon which gender roles were created are still the human condition. It's really about that simple. As long as you understand that tabula rasa is bunk and there are inherent differences between men and women, then it stands that socially enforced gender roles are better for society. Socially enforced means that the true except…
/r/MensRights04/02/19 05:48 PM
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this sub can be focussed on men’s rights, which shouldn’t inherently be anti-feminist. Apparently it's time for the repost: Feminists fight AGAINST men's rights. Here are some examples to prove my point. Father's rights group want shared parenting (equal custody) to be the default if both parents want custody and neither parent is unfit. They feel that men should not be punished for being men, and that women should not be awarded custody to their kids simply for being women. Currently women are …
/r/MensRights29/01/19 04:40 AM
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It's actually really simple: Women test men for fitness. A woman is not interested in a man who is incapable of protecting her from other men. She will often do this by mocking him and seeing how he reacts, hence the colloquial term "shit test" for this behavior. When we gave women control of society via women's suffrage (women control 56% of the vote) they continued this behavior on a social level. The problem is, government HAD to listen to women since they represent a majority of the vote. Si…
/r/MensRights28/01/19 02:37 PM
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I feel the same way: It's fine for a company to court women. It's bad to slam men.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 04:11 AM
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I agree with most of your post but this is questionable. Can you cite a source for this? This one is the most recent that I know of. JudgyBitch did a highlight of it that can be found here which touches a bit on the benefits side. As for the benefits side, I had a study I found around a decade ago which had the numbers broken down (unfortunately I no longer have the source handy). But, much like JudgyBitch's article, you found that women compromised the vast majority of those getting single-pare…
/r/MensRights23/01/19 10:34 PM
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Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing.
/r/MensRights23/01/19 09:17 PM
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I think it was supposed to be about equality at first. No. It's never been about equality. That's just the motte to defend their bailey of "more for women". First Wave Feminism: Obtain men's rights while rejecting men's responsibilities. Could possibly be called "equal rights" but far from equality. It's a female supremacy movement. Second Wave Feminism: Reduce women's responsibilities to society while rejecting reducing men's. Definitely a female supremacy movement. Third Wave Feminism: Increas…
/r/MensRights23/01/19 07:26 PM
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focus on the heart of feminism...equality. That's not the heart of feminism. The heart of feminism is "more for women". Even the first wave wanted men's rights but rejected men's responsibilities.
/r/MensRights23/01/19 06:44 PM
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Could you give me statistics on the numbers Pick a year. Literally ANY year. FYI: somewhere around the mid 2010's they stopped making the sex and relationship graph of perpetrators, but the raw numbers are still available.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 01:21 PM
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Seems reasonable to me: Women say they want X. Man becomes X to obtain women. Women go after Y. Man becomes confused and feels lied to. Most people get angry when they feel they've been lied to.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 01:13 PM
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Well, define feminism in a way other than "self-identified" that satisfies all the different types of feminism and get back to that question.
/r/MensRights20/01/19 05:37 AM
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Look closer at the last option.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 04:35 AM
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There are two types of feminists: Man-haters. Those who challenge others and say "not all feminists" when someone points at the man-haters. Those who actually challenge the man-haters and get shit on so much by the first two groups that they no longer consider themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 10:08 PM
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But anyway, the real problem is not white or black here: the real problem is male or female. Both are real problems. It's ok to be white; just like it's ok to be male. It's just that the focus of this sub happens to be only one of the two. No judgement there, just that the MRM has it's own focus.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 10:58 PM
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Men's issues are supported by neither wing. On the other hand, the left wing is actively against men.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 05:27 PM
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Why would you cross the border if you had no realistic way of getting employed? For all the social welfare. See California as an example, which is about to tax drinking water so it can continue to give welfare to illegal aliens.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 01:50 PM
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Many cultures have rites of manhood, and I wonder if it's for this very purpose. Close. The reason is that women are human beings; men are human doings. Women provide value to society by existing: they are the wombs that give birth to the next generation. Men do not provide inherent value, so they must prove value to society by their accomplishments. Many traditional rights focus on either pain tolerance (to prove ability to provide violence to protect the tribe) or resource gathering (to be abl…
/r/MensRights16/01/19 01:48 PM
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My apologies ;)
/r/MensRights15/01/19 11:31 PM
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I think it's important to do what I call "the race check". Hell, watch the races in the video. Almost all the bad actors were white, almost all the men who challenged the bad actors were non-white. More of the typical "straight white men are evil" shit like the APA put out.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 11:26 PM
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To me, masculinity is ordering a fruity drink at a bar because it tastes good and makes me happy. Toxic masculinity is ordering a shot of terrible whiskey not because I enjoy it, but because I have to prove adherence to ridiculous stereotypes to those around me. Here's something I wrote about that very topic years ago: The male gender role isn't really all that restrictive, as long as you've proved manhood to begin with (and yes, manhood must be earned and proven rather than womanhood which is s…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 11:18 PM
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There will be an initial surge due to popularity. There will be a long term loss due to people rejecting the message. They, like most progressives, are trading short term gains for long term losses.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 04:44 PM
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however just because something is how it is for elephants or in nature is completely irrelevant on wether it is the same for humans. The reason it's similar for elephants and humans are that we are both biparental species. But, yes, I understand the skepticism.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 04:39 PM
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There are some people near the middle that do use both, but that hasn't lead me to think that it's not a spectrum.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 03:13 PM
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Just because it doesn't matter doesn't mean we shouldn't try and be saints. We shouldn't be saints. We should be brutally honest. Let them make shit up but if we show that that isn't us then it exposes the amount of bullshit they spout. Which will convince nobody who's an emotional rather than rational thinker. Source always matters No, it doesn't. tatistics they state may be correct but it should always be checked and corroborated by other sources The only part of your post that is correct.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 03:00 PM
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I just think this adds more fuel to the fire If you haven't figured it out by now: it doesn't matter how good or how bad we are, they'll hate us anyways. We could be saints and the'll make up shit about us. Link to any truth. Source doesn't matter as long as it's correct.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 02:49 PM
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This article about fatherless elephants deserves a repost. It's not just human boys that do worse without fathers around.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 02:46 PM
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What motivates one race, specifically to abuse this system? Lower average IQ, ergo lower average earning potential. Welfare fucks the bottom. It's just that, at the bottom, there are more blacks than whites or asians.
/r/MensRights14/01/19 07:04 PM
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I'd honestly prefer landowner vote or military service vote. But the issue is getting the critical mass to support it, hence male vote is the best compromise. Any of the above will take a revolution or collapse to get there, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 05:13 PM
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Anyone can get a girl if they put in effort. There are some guys who really can't, mostly because they don't know what effort to put in (they do it wrong) and they aren't willing to accept what really works... because what really works would destroy their worldview and that cost is too high for them. Nothing wrong with being bitter about having the gov't take 50%+ of your money in taxes and giving it to women to support their kids they had from fucking around Nothing wrong with being bitter abou…
/r/MensRights13/01/19 01:51 PM
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Put another way: I'm not buying it at face value, but if a source says otherwise I'd be willing to accept it within the realm of possibility.
/r/MensRights12/01/19 10:54 PM
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There's two types of MGTOW: Those who can't get women and are bitter about it. Those who can and have decided that the effort is rarely worth it. Unfortunately, the former is much more vocal and much more to identify and gather as a MGTOW.
/r/MensRights12/01/19 06:10 PM
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It does to me as well. According to the last census, 23% of families were headed by a single mother, and 33% were without their biological father. I'm not sure where she got her numbers from, but they don't seem accurate.
/r/MensRights12/01/19 06:07 PM
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I don't know why you keep mentioning women or what it has to do with anything Because the entire APA article boils down to "men don't behave the same as women, so they're broken" That it. Your idea is that "some men harm themselves pursuing power so pursuing power is bad." Which is a simpleton's way of thinking. You won't understand it, because the points are so obviously above your mental capacity. Good day.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 10:13 PM
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So masculinity automatically "over-emphasizes" those traits? No. We are not broken women.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:31 PM
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pointing out problematic male atittudes Like "achievement" and "competition" ? Calling those problematic is calling men broken women.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:12 PM
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Men are men; Men are not broken women. Masculinity has it's own values, and has worth.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:03 PM
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I mean really, redistribution of wealth? One of the little-discussed facts about women's suffrage is that men pay 75% of taxes and women receive 80% of government welfare. In the USA, that is a wealth transfer to the tune of $2T a year; representing 1/8th of the USA's GDP. So, no... it's not to far. In fact, it's already happening.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 12:30 PM
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Keep us updated. Tell him to focus on missing school. I had a friend of mine win custody this way: his ex wasn't getting the children to school and they missed several days a month.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 12:27 PM
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male vs female tax contribution This one is the most recent that I know of. JudgyBitch did a highlight of it that can be found here which touches a bit on the benefits side. As for the benefits side, I had a study I found around a decade ago which had the numbers broken down (unfortunately I no longer have the source handy). But, much like JudgyBitch's article, you found that women compromised the vast majority of those getting single-parent / child welfare, the majority of medicare/medicade spe…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 09:59 PM
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Wait... I thought gender was a construct. Another thing to throw on the "yep, Tabula Rasa was a shit idea" pile.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 08:36 PM
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You really think that at this point the government would allow itself to shrink? Much like current government has to promise money to women from men's pockets to get (re)elected, government under men-only suffrage would have to promise shrinkage to get (re)elected. I don't care who men vote into office, they aren't doing anything to decrease their own power. If they don't promise that, they don't get elected. If they don't perform on that, they don't get reelected. If taxes need to be lowered, t…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 08:34 PM
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What woman hurt you? And here comes the usual accusation... You seem to have a personal vendetta against them. Not at all. I just look for solutions to problems and don't censor the idea because it's "wrong". I don't see that happening either with or without women voting. Never with women voting, they turn government into a surrogate husband/father. Without women voting, Federal government would shrink by necessity because men would vote for smaller government (less taxes) and therefore power wo…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 07:09 PM
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Like I said in the other post about this: This is just more of the "men are broken women" shtick.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 06:14 PM
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Or, at the least, charged with assault.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 06:12 PM
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defines “masculinity ideology” as “a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.” Yep, more of the "men are just broken women" shtick...
/r/MensRights09/01/19 05:08 PM
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they still have that right to express their own opinions and beliefs through voting. Without the responsibility of supporting or protecting that which they voted for? I guess women are "more equal" than men. But how is that a woman's fault? Because they've voted to increase taxes, which mostly men pay for, to fund social services, which mostly women recieve, so that women don't have to earn as much in order to support themselves, freeing them to vote for more taxes.... the cycle does honestly wo…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 05:06 PM
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Well, let's think this through: Women control 56% of suffrage while only contributing 1/4 of all taxes and 0% of all conscriptive force. Meaning they got rights without responsibility. Since women's suffrage, government has expanded 2000% (not a typo) relative to GDP. Government has gotten much more socialistic (my phrasing) and it has caused all the capitalism problems you are complaining about (your phrasing). The truth is, we'll never solve the MRM issues as long as women have suffrage. Gover…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 03:34 PM
1

if it in fact worked like it should And that's how you lose all your rights. Welcome to Venezuela. Are you really just blaming all of America's bullshit on the fact that women can vote? Honestly? 90+% of the MRM talking point issues are caused by women's suffrage. Most are unwilling to admit that even when presented with the evidence.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 04:06 AM
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Capitalism is far from broken. In fact, it is the.move towards socialism, caused by women's suffrage, that has created the problems you are complaining about. Without big government created by women's suffrage, nobody would try to buy our politicians as there would be little to now power to gain. Like most socialists, you complain about "capitalism" while griping about the parts of our system caused by women's suffrage moving the system more towards socialism. Perhaps you do need someone to run …
/r/MensRights09/01/19 01:36 AM
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You can't, which is why you seek socialism to have others run your life for you. Learn how to take care of yourself, and you'll realize how stupid the idea is. It's not that it "hasn't been done right" it is that it is a fatally flawed system.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 10:37 PM
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That you don't even realize I was digging you is the sad, but expected, part. Worthless socialist cucks like you need leaders because you can't even run your own life.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 10:14 PM
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Ahh, credentialism. The bastion of the idiots who have no critical thinking skills.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 10:12 PM
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I suspect the study probably used methodology that was misleading. It was a magazine study (source cited by me in this chain) so I honestly don't think so. They weren't trying to prove a point.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 08:03 PM
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https://www.scmp.com/article/723956/revisiting-calamitous-time
/r/MensRights08/01/19 08:02 PM
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China's rise started under Mao Their rise of killing their own citizens, perhaps.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 07:50 PM
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China. Guess that's why they are doing so badly huh? They were doing horribly. They went from a world power to an almost worthless nation due to socialism. Then they started their move towards capitalism that lead to their rise as the next superpower. China as an example proves my point so much more than it does yours... it's almost funny you use it as an example.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 07:44 PM
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Leaders? The USA has representatives. Perhaps that's part of your disconnect.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 07:42 PM
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But that's not because of socialism inherently, it's because the leaders corrupted it and ruined it for everybody. And, yet, that seems to happen every single time socialism is tried.... Don't worry, we'll get that correct socialism someday!
/r/MensRights08/01/19 04:57 PM
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/women-lie-cheat-and-steal-1131837 It's a magazine survey rather than a scientific study, but holy shit 42% admitted it! "Figures showed one woman in two would not tell her man that the baby she was carrying was not his - if she wanted to stay with him. They also said four out of ten (42%) would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant, in spite of the wishes of their partner."
/r/MensRights08/01/19 04:56 PM
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Well, that will admit to it. I was intending to go for "you're not technically correct but OMFG the actual number is still outrageous."
/r/MensRights08/01/19 02:20 PM
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I'm not at all surprised by the level of hate you're getting, but I am disappointed. I'm not surprised nor disappointed. Imagine a guy in Venezuela telling the masses to stop criticizing socialism because real socialism hasn't been tried yet. That's basically what this guy is doing.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 02:07 PM
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You want to think that it's just a few sociopathic women, that most aren't like that. Most aren't. Only 42% admitted they'd lie to their husband about birth control in order to get pregnant against his wishes.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 02:00 PM
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You got banned because you calmed to not be an MRA, but then used MRA talking points: facts.
/r/MensRights08/01/19 01:57 PM
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It was challenged in one State. Ruling from the court was that it wasn't a violation of the 13th because it didn't force you to work in any job or field, but they'll base your CS on what you could earn in your highest paying job/field. If what you chose didn't earn enough to cover the CS, that was your problem. Your usual doublespeak.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 10:30 PM
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Child support, as instituted in the USA, is unconstitutional. It violates the 13th Amendment by not allowing you to voluntarily lower your income and, in some cases, basing your child support on what you could earn rather than what you do earn. CS in the USA is a textbook example of involuntary servitude.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 08:33 PM
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Women getting the vote in Switzerland coincided with the resurgence of feminism instead of the rise of workers rights and sympathy for the working classes. But that wasn't your explanation for USA 1920. Seems women always have some excuse for escaping responsibility. Now tie in France 1945 and be consistent.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 04:14 PM
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You need to study what else was going on in society at these times to get a clear picture. Apparently, the same things that were going on in Switzerland in 1971? Correlation doesn't equal causation, but a correlation across time, regions, and cultures strongly implies one.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 03:33 PM
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No. All the states which voted for that idiocy went to Hillary anyways. But it's fine. The cities will win by numbers and pass environment regulations which make it impossible to farm food then wonder why they're starving... Why aren't the supermarkets making food?!?
/r/MensRights04/01/19 02:44 PM
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If only it had a start date rather than a start condition. I'd love to see Californian's faces when their electoral votes go to Trump in 2020.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 02:00 PM
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Just like it's absolutely meaningful that the Eagles got 200 more offensive yards compared to the Patriots, even though the Patriots won 27-14.... Yep, it doesn't matter in either case.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 01:51 PM
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You are over simplifying things to a massive degree. No, I'm not. I've studied women's suffrage extensively. It really does change a country in rather predictable ways. The USA happened to be a great natural experiment, since there were states that allowed women's suffrage before the 19th and states that voted against the 19th. Guess what all states did once women's suffrage was allowed? They increased taxes massively, increased state intrusion into citizen's lives, and increased welfare service…
/r/MensRights04/01/19 01:42 PM
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The facts that the USA is the ONLY 1st world nation to reduce CO2 emissions? That the rest of the countries which stayed in the Paris Agreement increased their CO2 emissions? That LNG doesn't combust to Methane? (I mean, come on... methane is combustible!) Like most on the Left, you only offer shaming, blaming, and bullshit to sway others to your side. The Right offers results. How do you like them apples?
/r/MensRights03/01/19 11:06 PM
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I hope you like rice. If that doesn't show you the idiocy of direct democracy, nothing will.
/r/MensRights03/01/19 11:02 PM
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It's not just slavery, it's total subjugation of 95% of the country to 5% of it. Strange fun fact: you only need just under 5% of the counties in the USA to have a majority of the population. So you actually can.
/r/MensRights03/01/19 09:26 PM
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Yeah, who would ever institute slavery in a democracy!
/r/MensRights03/01/19 09:18 PM
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