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[–]iwillnoteatgreeneggs 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
told her she's beautiful, indicated i don't want to just fuck her.
right here you became friend zoned.
Shes appalled because she thinks you are a nice docile unthreatening puppy doggy, and you said something rude.You likely never have a chance with her.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
I realise that but i'm looking to pull it back, as i say i accidentally may have initiated TheRedPill and im looking to further my investigation into its workings and see if i can utilise it with in my pursuit.
Im will be posting updates.
[–]MeatCurtainRod 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The thing is, you forever lost your chance. Girls have this unfortunate habit of judging you in 2 ways that will seal your fate forever: the first 5 seconds of meeting you, and doing something that undermines your personal integrity as a man. You just experienced the later.
Fail in these two things, and she will NEVER look at you the same way. Use abundance mentality and move on.
[–]recon_johnny 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This, dude. You've lost your chance, until you get your shit together, lift, improve value, DEMONSTRATE OI, increase SMV, learn game, etc---all this stuff takes time.
If at some point (months, maybe a year), you connect back, it would be clear that you're above her, and she might think of branch swinging.
But by then, you shouldn't give a shit. IDGAF--learn and exercise it.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think there is any shit to be gotten together. The story stated happened over the cause of a month no shits were given, taken or lost. she's just particularly attractive. You may say she has power over me in that sense but it is a power i'm willing to let her have the same way I let fast food and drugs tickle my fancy when I want them, whats the point in desire if your not going to full fill it some times.
But yea, it seems some guys beating me to the game with the IDGAF attitude.
[–]recon_johnny 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
So....I'll try to be judicious in my response statement.
You're asking for help as a newbie. Meaning you don't know much about TRP. So I'll share what I can, as you're clearly not full absorbed to the level that you need to not only post here looking for help, but to understand what the hell we're talking about when we say something.
The primary purpose of Red Pill is to increase you: your SMV, your knowledge, your personality, your confidence, your awareness of the world, your attitude towards everyone (not just women) otherwise called FRAME, your manner, your being. From that, there are benefits. Getting 'tang being one. You get your head right, and other things fall into place. Fair enough?
By fully taking the pill--meaning absorbing the information here, lurking and reading all of the posts and replies; reading and re-reading the sidebar stuff; going out to Rollo's website and reading...all of that takes fucking time. If you haven't put in the effort, then you won't be able to really work these concepts.
What I think you're doing is a high level skim of some aspects of this, you get a few buzzwords, you understand at a high level the concepts...but putting this shit into practice you are solely lacking. This girl is pretty. So fucking what. There's MILLIONS of pretty girls. Oneitis and thinking she's special is your downfall. Once you get to the point that you don't care (that's the true IDGAF), then tickling your fancy doesn't even enter your frame. You entered hers--saying she's beautiful [fuck man, where's the dread/letting her hamster run?], you aren't looking to only have sex with her--she dried up immediately on that, and you are relegated to friendzone status. You just didn't know it.
This is what I meant by saying move on. Work on you. If you hook up later with same girl, then you will have improved, maybe you'll bang her coming out of that. HOWEVER, you should be at the stage that you really don't care. You will have achieved IDGAF, because you know you can engage/seal these women at will.
Normally, I'd tell you that you're full of shit if you think you have any real understanding of what's going on here. Don't play Red Pill son. Be Red Pill. If you want to act like a little bitch and wait for this girl to be done with whomever then fine. But, I'm trying to be judicious in my response, and give you a little more. The men here really don't care what you do. Be RP or no, we have no interest or care.
The biggest piece of advice I can give you now is not to hamster your attitude away. Take my words as there were given, don't inflect some feelz. Work on you, read more, do more.
EDIT: I've just read some of you other responses, not just to this post, but in general. You have no clue as to the nature of this sub, as evidenced by "Why would I want to waste time lifting weights". You've not spent any time here, and frankly further advice with a red tint is a waste of time for me and for you. If you want to improve yourself, then do so. If not, IDGAF.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea i see that i've let her have some special status now... Not any more.
I exercise, i'm physically fit and already have other disciplines hence why would I want to do something as boring as lifting weights.
[–]1jb_trp 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What should i do next? What threads should i read to help with my situation?
Forget your "situation." The quicker you forget about this girl the better off you will be. TRP isn't just something for you to "use" like a cheap PUA parlor trick.
Read the whole sidebar. Read it several times. Take a long look in the mirror and decide what you want out of life--then make the changes to do those things. Then go into the gym and lift weights. Learn to love it.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair statement, different view perhaps. It's not like i don't have other options, i don't typically struggle to get sex.
Edit: why would i want to waste time lifting weights?
[–]JumpXVI 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This left me thinking, if she don't care/doesn't want me why would she look at me like that and be offended by my rejection.
Because you threw a bucket of sand on her thirst for validation and approval, when you had formally represented yourself as a nice warm beta glass of "you're beautiful i don't want to just fuck you".
You should double down on this by not contacting her at all and maintaining the frame of you being the prize and not caring about her attention. And you actually need to believe it too—you were pissed at the notion that you would be a sloppy seconds, but you need to internalize this mentality when it isn't as easy as the very moment you were just insulted.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I thought there maybe a notion i could try and put across to her friend, who i live with, as i know it would be relayed onward.
Me and said friend i live with are pretty close btw and she really thinks i'm a good guy and has been trying to set us up for some time.
[–]trp_hamlet 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"...she really thinks I'm a GOOD GUY and has been trying to set us up..."
Warning. Warning.
You admit to being a newbie in the title, and this is basically the proof. Recommend the same as any brand spanking newbie: read sidebar, top posts, and start your monk mode.
TRP isn't an advice column and you can't truly on it for a quick fix. TRP is a massive overhaul of your life philosophy.
[–]recon_johnny 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP has no clue, brother. Your statement: "TRP isn't an advice column and you can't truly on it for a quick fix. TRP is a massive overhaul of your life philosophy" is exactly correct, and should be a pop up every time you visit the page.
If he decides to move forward, good. If not, then good as well. The world needs some Betas.
[–]BLACK_gRAPE 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know. trying to make my understanding of it quicker, but of course knowledge takes time. I pretty much knew id get these answers.
[–]Iceman35142 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I dont understand. Why can't we just tell our girl she looks beautiful if we really mean it? I mean really. WTF?
(Talking about in an LTR btw)
[–]Manmademachine692 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This sounds like something I am struggling with. Maybe helping you, will provide that insight for myself.
It sounds like you verbalized your intentions. While it is an effective strategy, it must be done well.
I have verbalized intentions that were not really that attractive. For example, I told a girl that I hadn't seen in awhile that I was a little nervous before talking to her. I thought it would make her more comfortable and talkative, but looking back, it definitely killed the attraction a bit.
I went through this phase where I wouldn't say what I think or how I felt. I didn't find this to be good for me.
It helps to really just be very honest with yourself, and with everyone for a short period of time. Then to start screening your statements before you say them, and think: How does this make me look? How will it make them feel? Would Brad Pitt say this to a girl? Do they really need to know this?
It reaaallllyyyy helps with the whole mystery factor when you don't say any more than you need to. I would tell my girl that I am going to do something, like turn the light off. Now I just do it. Let your actions speak for themselves. However, don't be a sperg, sometimes you need to talk.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
literally just try talking to her like she's an actual human being not a robot you moron
[–]BLACK_gRAPE -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
think we've already established i can have a conversation with her if i want, read the post before commenting.
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