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[–]RPstudent 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
She will also view you as low value, because you still want her. You were by your own admission higher value before you dated. But despite the wardrobe upgrade, gym work, new job and hobbies, you still see her as a catch. Even though you "quite frankly" were higher value than she was.
Go out, approach, nurture some potentials, start spinning plates, re-establish your value by not giving a fuck what your ex thinks.
You have one-itis. There is a relatively easy cure. As Dr. /u/Guurzak will tell you fuck three girls and by then the problem will be gone.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even if the problem isn't gone then the problem is gone, it's a win-win-win-repeat situation.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like win-win-win, win-win-win, win-win-win ... if you're doing it right :-p
[–]aescetic 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've only ever been with 2 girls. Going out and fucking 3 isn't as easy as you're making it out to be. Thanks for the advice though :)
[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean it isnt as easy as they make it out to be? Hell yes it is that easy. You have already fucked two of them, why stop now?
I took an ex back once, and guess what, she left again. Get your ass off the wagon she is pulling behind her and go find someone else. Believe me, you will have feelings for someone again.
Me however, I dont want to have feelings for them, because they never return the favor. I can get sex, companionship, and everything else I want without having feelings for someone that will jump ship and go fuck some other guy that talks sweet to her, because she has no downside to doing it.
[–]x7CR7x 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A chameleon that changes its colors, is still a chameleon. Become a lion.
[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Move on. Undoing the damage with this girl is more trouble than it's worth.
If you spend the next six months trying to position yourself within her field of vision doing alpha, manly, high value things, hoping she'll notice your alpha "indifference" that you're trying to discreetly direct toward her, you're just a beta pussy doing some things a website told you works for girls to try to save your past relationship.
When you're ready for real change, you'll stop worrying about women in general and start focusing on bettering yourself. Women are drawn to a guy who genuinely is an alpha male, not a putz pretending, trying a few tricks he learned on the internet, and hoping she sees him doing it. Moreover, when you start down the road of real change, you'll realize that this one girl was never worth it. There are other girls. Better girls. The world is huge. Just move on.
[–]aescetic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do I become alpha overnight? Until I get there I'm gonna be sad.
[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There's a problem with this question. Change doesn't happen overnight. It's a process.
You need to stop worrying about this girl, and about girls in general. Girls aren't the goal in life. That's a false goal society has taught us for our entire lives, and that's the lesson we have to unlearn. Girls don't belong on a pedestal. They belong in our beds.
You need to become a better man for you, and that starts with getting and staying in shape (both diet and exercise), getting educated and well-read/informed, getting a job you like that pays you fairly for what you do, and developing hobbies and interests you actively pursue. Then, in your spare time, you can hit up gathering locations and try out your game a bit, whenever the urge to be sexual strikes you (because you're doing this for fun, not because girls are your goal).
You don't need girls, because you have your own life to live and your own shit to do. Interestingly enough, THAT is the very thing that attracts girls to you. When you're independent, interesting, confident, and could care less whether or not a girl is interested in you, that's what makes you alpha.
[–]aescetic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Solid advice man. Thank you.
[–]TheRabid 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Typically, people wants "girls" to fulfill two main reasons. Sex or companionship. For sex, go to hookers. It's cheaper and more honest. For companionship, go with friends or get a dog.
[–]aescetic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hookers? Really? That's not going to happen lol.
[–]RedPillScare 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The solution to re-establishing value with this woman is the very same thing that will cure your oneitis: date other women. When you have established both social proof and eliminated your scarcity mentality, you will no longer "smell" of desperation, and you will be plenty attractive to this ex.
Fortunately, you'll no longer be focused on her. When you know that there are many women with whom to share your company, and that a significant portion of them are more pleasurable than your ex, you'll be free to see her as she is.
[–]phathack 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a bad case of oneitis. She left you, the relationship is over and cannot be fixed no matter what you do she just not interested in you bluepill beta ways. You should never think of her again or make any attempt to contact her in any way. Again Forget about this one and move the fuck on, have you not learned anything from TRP?
She left you because you have a lot of personal things you need to fix in your life, oneitis being one problem. Once you get you shit together women will notice and they will want to be with you. Just remember women are everywhere, Keep you eyes open for the ones that have an interest in you and stop chasing what you think is a lost love.
Never again? We made good friends. We have a lot of common interests.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've really changed the way I view relationships and know I handled that one like shit.
Yeah, and now it's time to move on to the next one and do better.
In my experience telling people this never works though, you're going to have to learn it for yourself. To get back with her though you're really going to need to re-establish a strong frame where she's chasing you and wants you back, not the other way around. To do that you're going to need to dramatically increase your value and stop chasing her. Chase other women and start spinning plates, the power of pre-selection will do the rest for you as long as you keep working on yourself as a man.
So keep hitting the gym, keep practicing guitar, keep improving your wardrobe (and don't neglect to make sure your hair looks good from the sides and back, as well as the front) and spin some plates. If you still want her in a few months then she'll be putty in your hands, but you'll probably realise fast enough that she's not as good as you made her out to be.
[–]gg_s 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All good, but the last sentence is key. OP, you're the catch, not her.
Meanwhile im thinking about her, I guess it'll just take time to get over her.
[–]dandeezy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A month is not nearly enough. Wait a year. Fuck hotter girls, dump them. Do not ever contact her again. Refuse her if she wants you back, but be nice and alpha if she says hi .
Seems harsh, but definitely the best way To go.
[–]dandeezy 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What's harsh about it? Man up.
[–]toysjoe 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you really REALLY and I mean REALLY want her back, the most powerful weapon in your arsenal is to simply date someone else.
Preferable someone else in you social circle, someone that she can see you going out and being happy with.
Women are incredibly jealous creatures. A friend of mine was dating a girl. She dumped him. He didn't give a fuck and went out with other girls. She got jealous as fuck and now they've been married for years in a very healthy relationship.
Solid advice man. Will try this.
[–]RedSunBlue 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women are replaceable. Do not root through your garbage.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #7 It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #7
It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
[–]aescetic 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That makes a TON of sense... It just really hurts right now
I'm going through the somewhat the same emotions right now. I probably went somewhat bluepill too. I was engaged for 2.5 years until Sunday night. I supported her through law school for the past 2 years (300km LDR). I also co-signed an $80k student loan because nobody else could and I thought we were getting married.
As much as I wish it wasn't over, it is. I realize that the only chance I have of rekindling anything is if I move on quickly and don't let it affect me. I'm going to be hitting on girls this weekend. I want to go full redpill and I have the opportunity to do that now.
Wow man. You've invested a fuckton more than I have as well. I need to stop being a little bitch and move on.
[–]Kepaso 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
one itis problem
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So basically in my past, I dated a girl I had genuine feelings for. Before we dated I displayed higher value (because quite frankly I was), but once we started dating I became blue pill as fuck, and she ended up leaving me because of my insecurities.
It happens. Be glad that you are able to see it now for what it is rather than make excuses or wallow in self-pity/anger.
Now it's been about a month, and I've had no contact with her whatsoever, but I Still want her
You haven't told us what kind of person she was nor the circumstances around your breakup, but getting back together with an ex rarely ends up with a happier ending than before.
I'm going to be honest we are both gamers, she and I both have our issues, (sexually abused for her, parental abuse for me) but she was down to earth and really mature if not cold about most things. I really liked that because she didn't swoon or act like a girly girl. To be honest I think she was more mature than me and she was my first girlfriend I cared for more than just sexual reasons. It's gonna be hella fucking hard to forget her, but I guess it's what I gotta do.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Say the word "next" out loud. Seriously. Say it out loud. Grow a backbone and become an independent being that doesnt rely on the validation of a fucking girl. Especially one that denied you already. MOVE ON OP. Fuck more girls.
[–]aescetic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Here's the thing. I just moved into a new town ( it's a small town) and I know no one in this place. Im struggling with the fact that I'm lonely as hell, on top of this. This shit has de-railed from red pill. I dunno. You guys are smart. I know I need to move on, but how do I do that with no distractions?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your whole reply sounds like a bunch of excuses man. Thats some fag shit. Stop living a life of excuses. The real reason your not fucking other women is because you don't want to go through the trouble of finding, gaming, and following through with action. Get a backbone op. No one on this earth is going to feel sorry for you. Go fuck more girls op. The sooner you do it, the more you will understand.
God you seem whiny, everything new you are doing is for her, do it for yourself - no one else.
[–]James_Coook 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Life is too short to be recycling chicks bro. Just let it be a lesson for future relationships. Go out, spin plates and if she comes back she does and if she doesn't ca la vie.
[–]3rt41 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You are pretty much fucked. Also, this very topic you opened certifies the fact that you are still on the way to recovery from being full beta.
[–]aescetic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Is that a good or bad thing? At least I'm trying to recover.
[–]3rt41 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's cool bro, but as everyone in here already told you, your resolution will happen only when you forget about this specific girl and go caring about yourself. Only then you will meet more awesome girls and she will become something close in the past. Keep going, just without this girl in your mind.
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[–]3rt41 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS is the action that will make you realize you are starting your way to healing and growing from this. Good move bro, never look back. I have been where you are and i feel you. Best of luck and keep your head up!
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