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[–]1Yakatonker1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
This makes me think about the way I wind my arguments sometimes. So if simplified you're trying to say that there's more to life then sexual dominance and a consistent need to augment the economy of one's environment in order to receive social value?
Based on the above statement no man comes here because they want introspection on the person outside of their sexuality, they're here only for sexual strategy. Most men do not have sexual intelligence and TRP is a strong source of such for the ignorant, or what is overly labeled the blue piller. Your perspective is also curious, it feels as if you've never come from a position of weakness, ie poverty, obesity or come from outside of the predominant social mainstream, ie looking from outside in towards the sickly guts of the human animal kingdom.
People are fucking ruthless animals who only value their survival first and foremost amongst all things. Then after that first rule is satiated then can they focus on other biologically innate economies, ie fulfilling natures wiring for sexual economy, social status, power, and martial prowess which promotes all of the above. Most of the so called beta men come from positions of weakness and have desired all their lives to be the beneficiaries of the system. Most men dream of this because its a biological economy wired into them. What you mentioned before is completely pointless unless there is an information, social or economic architecture which gives rise in a man towards economies beyond sexuality, or social integration. Simplified its not reasonable to expect men here, particularly in a forum of sexual strategy to focus on anything else because for them sex has been in their psyches a scarcity all their lives, and something of a profound and innate value to them.
While I don't like most abstracts of the red pill pervaded here one cannot argue or be so ignorant as to what motivates men here or why they want social, sexual economic power. The things taught here do improve mens economy, particularly within a social environment, these things make men feel secure and integrated which is somewhat ironic, and the TRP variant gives them a place to develop an identity. Most men are not capable of individualism, its almost unfathomable for someone unless all the plugs have been ripped out of them, and them having seen how truly bastardized the mechanics of a human system is. Simplified this is not the place for discussion of things outside sexual social economics, but it is a welcome change of pace from the androgyny of the posts here Stryke4ce.
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[–]1Yakatonker0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No need to apologize! I think I understood what you were trying to say, but others here are not very receptive or capable in such an exchange of ideas. Its best to keep arguments as neutral as possible because most people are not seeking outside perspective, rather they're very defensive in their ideology regardless if it has any merit. From such they're not very willing to communicate unless placated to or delivered a forum that's not directly counter to their ideals, or for men their egos. Kind of speaks to the difficulty in transition humans face, rather it takes a delivery system to move people from one conceptual architecture to the next.
[–]recon_johnny1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This should be deleted in, oh...20 minutes?
Bullshit views, wall of text, blue pill denial....yep, quality post here, son.
[–]NameOfAction1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, you can't help everyone.
Don't worry OP, we will still be here for you when you see the light.
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[–]Endorsed Contributoralways-be-closing0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you put on your clothes and fasten them together and stay on your body?
Do you use your hands? Do you have a set of best practices (one pant leg at a time, shirt on after pants, etc?) that you consistently use to most efficiently dress your self?
Do you let aside things like buttons and zippers and simply hold your clothes in place, or do you take advantage of the design of the clothes and use them to your benefit?
Because the psychology and physiology of women (and men) have been tailored as well, and not by machines and Chinese slave labor, but by millenia of evolution to get not just a shirt on one's body, but a penis in a vagina, a baby born, and a human raised.
The other two parts are ones most women have opted out on, like shirts that don't want to be on the torso.
That's fine. But the buttons still work, and we're just telling men who like buttoning up shirts how it works.
[–]NickCiufi0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I suppose I'll get in before delete / temp ban.
I think what OP is trying to say is TRP is not some series of gym and career related hoops that we must jump through to get laid. Rather, it is essentially a recognition of the difference between what people SAY works in finding a desired relationship and what ACTUALLY works. Anyone who follows the rules without understanding the philosophy will still struggle with getting what they want out of relationships over the long-term.
Now with that being said, if you have washboard abs and a 6 figure income, you'll still get laid as much as you want. Having a TRP mindset when trying to get laid isn't nearly as important as being desirable in the first place.
[–]2insickness0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A girl once found my blog about seduction and meeting women and she freaked out on me.
"Why do you play games?" she said.
"I don't play games. This is for real," I told her.
You need to understand dread 'game' in order to understand that it is not a game. When you pull away from her or shut her out, you're not playing a game in order to get her back. If done right, you will actually walk away from her. She will lose you. And you are showing her that. We call this game but it's not pretend.
[–]slimcoat0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're already valuable!
I was told this until my early 20s and couldn't for the life of me figure out why girls wouldn't fuck me.
I reject everything you say not only on principle, but in a practical sense as well. Your assortment of hippie rainbows and unicorns does not exist, and makes men worse off. Either get with the program or lurk, but if you're going to try to derail men you should GTFO and go back to watching Grey's Anatomy.
[–]NameOfAction1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The idea of the inherent value of people only applies to women.
"Women and children first!" Who gets drafted? Who does the deadly jobs? Who gets up in the middle of the night to confront an intruder?
Men are expected to sacrifice themselves for the good of the collective. Men are only as valuable as they make themselves.
Women have inherent value from their uterus.
Like existentialism, this can seem depressing when you first digest it. But on further refection, it becomes liberating. If you're in a shitty place its your own fault. But you can change that. You can go as far as you want. If you have low value to society its your fault, but you can raise it.
If you're a poor writer and have a tendency towards incoherent ranting and a lack of understanding of the return/enter button, you can change that.
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