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Scientists examine why men even exist: Sexual selection gave the beetles an edge, because females with a choice -- and many males competing for their attention -- were less likely to mate with genetic losers.

walkonthebeach

May 18, 2015
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Title Scientists examine why men even exist: Sexual selection gave the beetles an edge, because females with a choice -- and many males competing for their attention -- were less likely to mate with genetic losers.
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walkonthebeach

Upvotes 32
Comments 14
Date May 18, 2015 6:41 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There are really two simple reasons:

First, sexual dimorphism enhances survival prospects in times when food is scarce. Put another way, in a mammal group, who is going to hunt for food more easily, an able-bodied male or a heavily pregnant female?

Second, cross-breeding allows for the enhancement of the organism. For example, if one type of shellfish is good in salt water, and another in cold, if they simply replicated themselves, those traits would remain separate. But with cross breeding through males, they can benefit from both.

This type of article uses some headline-grabber as click-bait--"Are Males Still Necessary?" shit like that.

[–]RP_Vergil3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a piece of PR. Natural Laws repackaged to suit the writer's purpose which is summed up in that one liner.

"but in extreme cases, males are nothing but parasitic sperm-producers that latch onto their females of choice."

Nothing inherently wrong except we are not bugs, but Human living in a society.

[–]1aguy012 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"but in extreme cases, males are nothing but parasitic sperm-producers that latch onto their females of choice."

Except it's the females that choose the male, attach themselves to him and make babies while sucking out his resources.

[–]RP_Vergil1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's all about perspective. It's always about that and the society has not shown favor to man for sometime.

[–]1aguy013 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah the analogy just doesn't make sense with men as the parasite. What kind of parasite builds its host a nest, provides it with food, and defends it from danger? It's just a delusional woman's nonsense ramblings. They say shit like this all the time, like "women don't need men" because they are so used to taking what men do for granted they don't even realize their ability to live 'without men' is a gift that men provide to them.

[–]UnluckyPenguin11 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There was a time when you couldn't link to the WashingtonPost.

After reading other comments, I'm glad I didn't follow the link to generate their ad revenue.

[–]contrafagotto3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think some of you are misinterpreting this article. I read it as an indictment of Puritan morality and Roman one-man one-woman marriage. If I read it correctly, it's only saying that nature favors sexual reproduction because species do best when alpha males reproduce a lot and beta males not very much. It's Red Pill research.

[–]Stradivorius9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lets compare insects to mammals. One can survive a nuclear war. The other BUILT THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD!!!!

obvious of which is that only half of your offspring -- daughters -- will actually produce offspring, Lets forget the basics of reproduction in which a woman needs a male´s sperm to fertilize the egg, therefore adding new dna into the sequence.

Why should any species waste all that effort on sons? Gee ,I dont know, maybe to have someone that can hunt and build shit so your fat ass doesnt freeze inside a cave?

We wanted to understand how Darwinian selection can allow this widespread and seemingly wasteful reproductive system to persist, when a system where all individuals produce offspring without sex -- as in all-female asexual populations -- would be a far more effective route to reproduce greater numbers of offspring."
It would be a more effective route, if you wanted to eliminate the entire species in a couple of generations. No abilitie no build tools, hunt, fight off predators and the lack of genetic diversity that would allow your precious daughters to survive the fucking common cold.

in extreme cases, males are nothing but parasitic sperm-producers that latch onto their females of choice The opression that Womym® face when they have someone to take care of them and their off-spring. Its truly heartbreaking.

Another bullshit article brought to you by The Washington post.

[–]contrafagotto2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you are reacting to feminist spin on the Nature article, not the Nature article itself. Please see my other comment.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Sexual dimorphism provides genetic diversity in a species. One disease will not wipe them all out. This is why insectiside and microbiotics create super bugs. The section of the population succeptible to the poison dies, leaving only the immune ones left. Then this immune section reproduces and passes on those 'immunity traits' to their offspring. Eventually, the whole population is immune.

With asexual organisms, they have to clone themselves, making every member of the species really similar, very little genetic mutation takes place. The only thing that saves them from disaster is sheer numbers.

Why is one gender a baby making machine, and the other is 'just' a sperm donor? Because the specialized division of labor provides optimized efficiency.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's turn around the genders and see if that study gets grant money. Or how about, WHY DO BLACKS EVEN EXIST? WHY DO JEWS EXIST?

It's just a ridiculous form of politically motivated hate speech.

[–]makethemsayayy 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes but males are the only group you can still screw over and say shit like this about.

Try it with women? Oh the fucking outcry. Any race (besides white) oh fuck no. But white males, a-ok!

[–]1grendalor0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't wig out about this one, guys. It's actually very red pill: be alpha, don't be beta. We already know this.

Lift and bang.

[–]ChiefReap0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The beauty of the free market at work once again! Billions of individual and selfish decisions creating the best outcome for the whole of the species!

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