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Sometimes it pays to be Beta Bucks

smokingmonkey420
November 16, 2014
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Title Sometimes it pays to be Beta Bucks
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smokingmonkey420
Upvotes 0
Comments 25
Date November 16, 2014 2:52 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2mfnif/sometimes_it_pays_to_be_beta_bucks/
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Comments

[–]sir_wankalot_here2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing wrong with being beta bux providing you know the score, ideally the woman should know the score also. So the simplest example is a whore, you pay her $X she sucks your cock.

The problem happens when beta bux deludes himself he isn't beta bux. The whore isn't sucking my cock because I paid her $X but because she loves me or some shit.

With the Uber thing, dude did the right thing telling the chicks to fuck off. They are amature whores who want to collect $X without sucking your cock. If they would have said we suck your cock, you give us a ride that is cool. The chicks thought he was a sucker. Probably after he told them to fuck off, the chicks probably found another sucker, got a free ride. And then the next day where laughing about it.

To simplifiy, alpha fucks gets his cock sucked because of his SMV. Beta Bux gets his cock sucked because he paid money. Beta Bux if he shelled out money and isn't getting his cocked sucked is a sucker.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that situation is as clear as you make it out to be.

Chicks said, "you got an Uber. You should give us a ride to Taco Bell!!!"

So what can we make of it? Well, they're easy (riding with a complete stranger) and they're looking to have fun and keep the party going. They didn't ask for a ride straight home.

All dude had to say was, "Sure. Hop in." Then it's game on. Of course, that's "beta" and we don't do that here at TRP.

[–]sir_wankalot_here0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ok you have a point. When I read the inital post I assumed that Uber is pricey and Tacobell is in the opposite direction from where the Dude wanted to go.

So lets assume there was a Kabob place that was cheap two blocks away from the bar. The dude could have said I am hungry also, but I hate Tacobell, lets walk to this Kabob place that is two blocks away.

Be deciding the place and taking control dude changes from beta to alpha. Kabobs used to be cheap like a $1 so if he springs for 2 kabobs all he is out is $2. And if nothing happens he diches them at the kabob place.

From the original post and the girls response, I suspect they where just looking for a free taxi ride.

[–]smokingmonkey420 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

More mind games. Which means more effort and increased headaches. It's Alpha and it will work but it's not the only way.

All I'm saying is were hear to learn sexual strategy. There is a time and place for beta-bux and there's no shame in that.

Personally, I would've let them in and then tried to get them to come home with me. It's not rocket science. Sometimes, you gotta pay to play. I find that can be a lot more relaxing and enjoyable then constantly gaming a bitch. Just don't expect loyalty and don't marry the bitch.

[–]sir_wankalot_here1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Uber guy probably was used to getting pushed around by women, so him saying no was a new experience.

Alpha versus beta isn't so much what you do but how you do it. But you are talking more advanced stuff. Ultimately sexual strategy is a form of marketing. When I am trying to sell something, I find out that the client likes a certain restro or bar. I then say why don't we discuss this over dinner. In this case I weigh the cost of the dinner versus the reward of future business that might occur. I take the guy for dinner, over the main course we make small talk. Then over dessert and drinks once everyone is in a good mood we start discussing business. Basically it is overcoming objections, what are the problems of the client, how can I fix these problems.

For perspective clients you have to court them per say. So after the dinner the persepctive client is still uncertain. I then say how about I let you think about, I check back with you in a month. He usually agrees. I will do the same thing again as long as I think that there is a possibility of getting business.

For chicks it is the same thing, but then again it depends on the value of the chick. If the chick is actually worth talking to, I don't mind doing it. In the uber guy's story, when the guy asked why he should give the chick a ride, the best response she could come up with is "I am hot". That indicated to me a low value chick.

So you have a point, but for the 90% of guys here who have been pushed around by chicks it isn't applicable.

[–]mega_beta0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucking a whore doesn't necessarily make you a beta. If you're a lazy alpha, a whore is an easy option.

[–]sir_wankalot_here1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Point I am making, in the girlybar you have money girls pay you attention. I have seen it happen countless times, bargirl latches onto guy usually stupid foreigner. Usually she takes the relationship outside the bar so she can marry up. The bargirls know that foreigners are suckers for a sob story.

What is comical is when the foreigner hamsters. She doesn't really want to work in the bar. She is just doing it to earn money for her family. She is really nice and really likes me or some shit. It becomes even more comical when the foreigner even says it has nothing to do with money.

Again taking the bargirl out of the bar isn't in itself bad, just don't expect it to be a stable longterm relationship, make sure you are always in control (dont marry her). So lay out a set of responsibliities for her, and agree you pay her $X per month. If you catch her banging other guys she is out on the street.

Usually I can spot the foreigner who married the former bargirl. They usually have some BS story about how he met her when she was a clerk in a department store or some shit like that. Most of the time she is banging someone else or attempting to bang someone else. What is the most disgusting is literally when the foreigner's back is turned, they will be making goo goo eyes at me.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

He kept his pride but he didn't get to fuck. Got me to thinking. If you're just looking to get laid, why not play Beta Bucks?

If dude had given those chicks a ride, it wouldn't have gotten him laid. Beta Bucks is a great way to give some chick a roof over her head and a source of spending money.

It's not a great way to make a woman desire you.

[–]sir_wankalot_here1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's not a great way to make a woman desire you.

You are naive. Lets say you where a great football player, so you got pussy up the hoop. Then you had an injury and no longer could play football. The chicks will lose interest with you. There is nothing more pathetic then some High School football star who 10+ years later is washed up. He is in some menial dead end job, broke and sitting in the bar talk about his glory days 10 years ago.

Subsistute money for football playing abilities.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't see what some loser barfly has to do with proving that beta bux will make you sexually desirable. Beta bux'ing will get you laid by some woman who's both desperate for commitment enough and on her game enough to lock you the fuck down. That's not the same as sexual desire.

If you're going to beta bucks it you might as well cut to the chase and get a mail order bride from a traditionally conservative country. That's the most band for your beta bucks right there.

[–]sir_wankalot_here0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I will make it simple. Power equals high SMV. Athletic ability equals high SMV. Money depending how it is used equals high SMV.

You loose your SMV you loose your attraction. So another example. Lets say a guy is a cop. Cops get lots of pussy because badge and gun equals power. Guy retires from the force, he did not develop any other forms of SMV, he no longer has SMV. Hence he has no attraction to women anymore.

What part do you not understand ?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Money depending how it is used equals high SMV.

And giving entitled chicks free cab rides is a use of money that gives you a high SMV?

[–]sir_wankalot_here0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read my other comment quite clearly stated OP did the right thing in not giving the chicks a ride.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They would have asked to be dropped at home on dudes dime, and he'd still be going home alone to jerk off.

[–]smokingmonkey420 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You make good points, but you can't make that claim with 100% certainty.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Pedantry isn't useful to the discussion. We aren't solving a fucking syllogism here, we're talking about getting laid. If you have a detailed plan for using beta bucks then edit this post to add it - your experiences and your theory behind why they work for you.

I doubt that you have such a plan and I doubt that if you did, that it would include giving entitled bitches free cab rides.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hugh Hefner. Dude was Beta-Bux.

Spent lavish amounts of money on them. Let them live in his house. They got whatever they wanted. He got to fuck four or five of them at a time. Everybody wins.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hugh Hefner. Dude was Beta-Bux.

Spent lavish amounts of money on them. Let them live in his house. They got whatever they wanted. He got to fuck four or five of them at a time. Everybody wins.

That's not beta bucks, that's hiring live in prostitutes.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the kind of the point I'm getting at. AWALT.

[–]vakerr1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Key TRP point: behaving like a beta makes you unattractive.

If you can't be alpha, at least don't (hamster and) let them take advantage of you. If you stand up to them now, you just gotten more attractive and the chance of getting your dick wet the next time has just increased significantly. Think abundance - you don't need these chicks now.

[–]smokingmonkey420 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Spending money on girls is not necessarily beta. If you use tact, you can pull it off.

[–]vakerr0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It seems you just want to push a position and not interested in advice.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I feel that I've internalized the lessons of TRP at this point. SMV, abundance mentality, dread game, Alpha this, Alpha that. It keeps getting repeated as nauseam.

I'm ready to learn something new. All I'm saying is you can leverage beta-bucks in your favor and it's worth discussing.

[–]Moolg860 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sigh

The whole point of that post was to illustrate the wonders of holding frame, and not succumbing to the concept known as "pussy pedestalization"

yes. there was definitely a chance at getting laid, hell, even a threesome if the aforementioned poster's game was tight enough, but that's not the point.

It's not about pussy, it's about sending a message

[–]smokingmonkey420 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I play the game to win. I could give a fuck about sending a message. IMO, dude didn't win anything. He basically refused to play and merely broke even.

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