Started this conversation thinking I was going to help this guy get a more realistic perspective on how getting laid works, ended up losing patience with him. Curious what Red Pillers think about the points made. Could I have said something to make him less resistant to the basic facts?

Thotwrecker · 2015-12-28T09:06:30+00:00

All I see here is that you two wasted an hour of your life that you can't get back.

Him... he's an idiot, that hour would not have been spent on anything worthwhile anyway. But you, if you are smart enough to be a woman and see some validity to TRP, you're smart enough to understand the infinite futility of arguing with people like that.

Bottom line is that women are attracted to leadership and confidence, and this is why men must be go-getters. If you cannot approach and escalate with women, how can you do the other million harder tasks that a man must do? You (well, the man, not "you") approaching and taking the risk is vital, because it shows positive qualities if you do it right.

This is why it's good that men must approach; approaching is an opportunity to communicate a LOT by your body language and vocal tonality and overall vibe. You can get laid simply by how comfortable and confident your approach is, so I view the approach as an opportunity.

Negative men will not view the approach as an opportunity because they cannot conceive of it helping them; it is an obstacle to be overcome, NOT an opportunity to generate attraction.

Don't try to save guys. Guys are more stubborn and stupid than you can ever imagine, if they choose to be. If someone is accidentally ignorant, sure, educate em. If they don't know something because they just encountered incorrect information or have been exposed to BS, then sure, help em out.

But if they are being willfully stupid, which I could tell this guy was from line 3... you will get Trumped. He will rant and rant and call you names, and walk away like he roasted you in the argument.

2comment · 2015-12-28T09:50:44+00:00

I didn't read all that. This tells me all I need to know:

tl;dr - Had a conversation with a guy about his feeling that it's unfair that men hit on women and women don't hit on men as much.

Sorry, but life isn't fair. There is no higher power looking out for you nor karma that will exact revenge for you. This is part of the red pill, that you are UTTERLY alone in the world. Anything else is a comforting fairy tale.

When something is unfair, you need to embrace that FACT. And then either change it IF it can be changed, avoid it, or use it to your advantage. Complaining about it CHANGES nothing.

AFAIK, how an entire gender biologically acts cannot be changed, least of all by one man.

OP, accept that the only person you can change is yourself. Until you become a worthy mentor figure in your own right, work on yourself and only throw a life preserver out to a few close friends here and there and note if they cling to dear life of their own accord or if they sink. Don't try to be the lifeguard.

JamesSkepp · 2015-12-28T08:52:30+00:00

"The first rule of Fight Club is..."

michael_wilkins · 2015-12-28T12:06:26+00:00

This is exactly why I come on this sub, so I can read about some chick show me the conversations with some loser I don't know and give her advice.

Tits or GTFO.

Holy shit that conversation is War and Peace. I'm not even going to read the first line.

The_Red_Paw · 2015-12-28T11:11:38+00:00

Unsolicited advice is never welcome, never followed, and never any good. Trying to save people just makes them resentful.

Furthermore, you don't ask a fish how to catch a fish. You ask the fisher.

I didn't bother clicking your link, the content is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. You asked "Is there something about his argument I really just wasn't getting?"

Yes. Everything. Bitchboy wasn't looking for an argument, or a solution. He was looking for validation, which he cannot have because he's a chump.

TeoLolstoy · 2015-12-28T13:38:07+00:00

Not a red piller at all and I usually don't post in subs that I don't have an ideological interest in but that whole conversation is bullshit. I didn't read it all the way through but stopped when you told him he's resistant to basic facts.

What you present as basic fact ("Maybe it's biological") is pure speculation an interpretation upon that speculation. "If this is a fact my interpretation of what that fact could mean is a fact".

So, why am I telling you this? Because for someone stating facts, you coulnd't be more wrong. I'm a non-redpiller practically never approaching women, yet I meet women that approach pretty often. I'm not super-attractive, I'm not famous, I'm not rich. But for instance my last 5 dates weren't initiated by me. I also never ask about phone numbers, I somehow just get them.

Not every woman is so cynical about the 'overabundance' of guys trying to approach them like wild animals looking to mate.

Dishmayhem · 2015-12-28T23:01:05+00:00

TLDR: you wouldn't accept Stranger's mental-model of the world, Stranger gets frustrated, Stranger fails at assimilating a new idea to his self-admittedly failing theory.

You gave him more effort than he deserved :P

I love that a female posted here. cheers.

ProvostP · 2015-12-28T10:49:01+00:00

Your not a red piller, save yourself before you save other.

dps89 · 2015-12-28T10:37:34+00:00

The fact he's on there trying to get some 'slutty' action anyway tells you he's pretty desperate and low, trying to shortcut his way to some validation from you rather than being happy with himself. He's a lost cause until he stops thinking he's a victim.

I guarantee you if you'd gone over to him and a friend in a bar and hit on his friend he'd still have been furious because it wasn't him. He's just a lump of envy and spite.

TRPBackpacker · 2015-12-28T11:37:24+00:00

Hmm, he's pretending to be a dom. But he is a sub. Is this what Doms today became?

gdotlee · 2015-12-29T01:55:25+00:00

death spiral .... MF EYEROLL

Foctopus · 2015-12-28T16:51:19+00:00

First off, you should check out red pill women if you agree with red pill philosophy. Second off, you can't help people that don't want help. The exception would be people who can look at any truth objectively, and actively seek it out anyway. Even though everyone says they are like this, very few people are, like probably 1/10,000, But they do exist.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-12-28T15:58:30+00:00

Fuck

Yahweh comes from four hebrew letters יהוה‎

You read backwards in hebrew so it means:

Yod (Masculine Game Awareness) + Hei (androgynous human base) + Vav (the physical union or the act of sex) + Hei (androgynous human base)

Simplified it means:

"Masculine Male Fucks Female"

...and this act creates life, so it's the creative force in the universe.

So what the beta is asking for is if a Hei can mate with another Hei.

The beta male is androgynous.

Red Pill teaches that you must apply the Red Pill (Yod) to the androgynous male to transform him into a masculine human.

Game is the Yod... the masculine energy that can bend reality.

So the beta fundamentally doesn't know anything.

A "nice guy" will never know god. (which means "fuck")

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