The Red Pill; More Than a Tool

First off, I am mainly a lurker and RedPill novice in general. I find myself here for the philosophy, frame of mind, and great minds that contribute great content, not diary entries on getting laid. However; I have been inspired by a few recent posts which have stimulated some thinking.

Swallowing the Red Pill and following the teachings of the sub is not simply a way to get laid. As a recent post stated, it is not a lifestyle, it is a tool, or a tool box. Or maybe it is a map, a guide for those who have been brainwashed by SJW, the left, and other factors. I would agree that (when correctly applied) this sub is most definitely a good guide for living one's life, and supplies valuable tools that help a man. (Not only to get laid)

That said, I like to think of "swallowing the red pill" as a frame of mind, or a mindset. Today's culture is full of so much bullshit and fake idiocy that it is no wonder there are so many men who need reforming. However, I would urge you to look past women, sex, and relationships. There is so much more beyond what the main focus of this sub seems to focus on.

We should strive to swallow the red pill, and look beyond the wool that has been pulled over your eyes. You might not notice it, but almost always it is there. So many men here rant and get angry when they have these revelations about women and relationships, but they fail to realize that it is only one of the vast number of facades that plague us and our society.

For example, I was recently chatting with a friend about nutrition. He pulled up this article about how fat and cholesterol don't really cause cardiovascular disease. He was absolutely floored, and wanted to know why this wasn't more common knowledge. All I could do was nod and smile at his small discovery, having "swallowed the red pill" concerning healthy dieting long ago.

Have your fun, expand your relationships, be the Alpha male that you are meant to be. But keep looking for the next way that you have been deceived and the next set of knowledge you can conquer. Battle the bullshit, and arm yourself with REAL, actionable knowledge. Keep following the white rabbit my friends.

TLDR: RedPill is a great tool to help you develop mastery of yourself and your relationships. It can also be seen as a great frame of mind or mindset to help you shed the wool that was pulled over your eyes; to see beyond the Matrix in many aspects of life.

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Hey man, good on you for studying a hard topic and bettering yourself. Hopefully you can use that knowledge to battle the bullshit, instead of spreading it. But I have to disagree. First off, there is always room for discussion and we do not know exactly how it happens. If you are a student of science, you will be cognizant that we are unsure on many things. Where to begin...

Atherosclerosis is a process that is associated with heart disease, yes. LDL's are involved in the disease process of atherosclerosis, but they are not the causative agent. They are simply responding to inflammation. We need a normal level of LDL to provide a response to that inflammation present. Too much LDL is bad (accelerated atherosclerosis) and too little is bad (no response to inflammation). So you are close there.

However, science has failed to consistently find a strong (or even small) correlation between saturated fat and cholesterol consumption and blood levels of LDL or cholesterol. If it is a factor, it is small not consistent. Despite governmental guidelines and changing of people's eating behaviors in the western world, there is very little evidence showing that eating more saturated fat causes heart disease. Epidemiological data and RCTs support this claim. Some forward thinking individuals even propose that increased saturated fat consumption shifts LDL particle size and change LDL:HDL ratios, but we don't have solid science.

There really just isn't consistent, high quality evidence to support your "no room for argument" claim. IF you want to have even more fun, go look at when the low fat guidelines were implemented in the US, and when obesity began to rise, despite all of our physical activity initiatives. Obviously that is not causative in any way, but interesting.

Thanks for attempting to educate us, but I would suggest you educated yourself a bit more. Something is only retarded when it is delayed in its progress and growth. Currently your knowledge is somewhat retarded and could benefit from more current evidence.

(too lazy to add any citations)

TDLR: Saturated fat & cholesterol consumption is not causative, and has not been consistently correlated with cardiovascular disease according to the most recent and best quality evidence.

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LDL's travel around the body and are the direct cause of the inflammation. Once a lipoprotein has given off enough fats, it is supposed to be endocytosed in the liver, however the liver has a capacity, and due to many factors, often they don't. So what happens to them?

Well, the LDL's continue to give off fats as they travel throughout the bloodstream until they are a very, very small particles that are small enough to slip through the endothelial wall. Once they do this, the body sees them as an antigen, so macrophages go to attack this little LDL that is right outside the endothelial wall. This causes the formation of a foam cell. Because macrophages don't usually eat fat, but when they do it turns into this bubbly lookin thing. This forms a plaque in the Tunica Intima, causing inflammation, and over time, permanent scarring which prevents the artery's natural ability to expand, compounding the plaque, scarring heart tissue, and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

My dad is a homeopath/naturopath so I've got plenty of exposure to what you're saying. Two things- we eat a shit ton more meat than we used to, which may be cause for concern, that we don't know. Secondly, OP said "fat" and im inclined to be on your side with the"saturated fats are fine". We should be worried about Polyunsaturated fats, since all those double-bonds are easily broken and cause free radicals due to their ability to bond, they have to steal hydrogens from other places, thus causing inflammation as well.

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While I applaud your near textbook recital of the pathophysiology of atherosclerosis, I fail to see the point in the context of this thread. To show that you know things? Congratulations, really, you seem well versed. To be honest, I am in an unrelated health field, so I don't doubt your or your father's training. I simply disdain bullshit being spread to the masses, hence encouraging people to look beyond the fantasy that has been put on for us. To swallow the red pill; to be skeptical.

It just does nothing to add to your earlier argument of being retarded for not believing fat and cholesterol consumption are main players in cardiovascular disease. Really none of this goes against what I said, except the first sentence. (I am partial to the theory that LDL has an important role to play in depositing cholesterol for damaged cell membranes and hormone synthesis. The embedding the vessel membrane is a response to inflammation, not inflammation itself. It is an issue when levels are greatly increased or decreased.)

So I appreciate your information, but don't confuse knowledge of facts with understanding of the problem. Once again, not really literature to support the ingestion of fat (PUFA or SFA) or cholesterol causing heart disease.

So thank you for the information, but you may have missed the point of the post. It is a cry against reciting the old norms that have been drilled into our heads from the media, textbooks, and other "knowledgeable" sources. It was meant to be a post to incite thought about the ideals and knowledge that you feel certain on, to reevaluate them; to step out of the Matrix. The point was most definitely not to begin some sort of debate on cardiovascular disease, but thank you for the discussion.

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Title	The Red Pill; More Than a Tool
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Date	June 4, 2017 1:47 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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