Thinking about taking the red pill

SkorchZang · 2015-09-24T23:43:31+00:00

In your message you spend many paragraphs apologizing for being a man, and having distinct preferences and ambitions, not in line with your wife's. You feel sorry, you feel worried about hurting her, she is a nice person...

Without the red pill you're absolutely fucked. Literally the only thing you are capable of thinking about is what Rollo Tomassi called "the feminine imperative".

A thing that's conspicuously missing from your thinking, and should be at the forefront of it: asset division. Hurry to consult with a good attorney, and then quietly plan & take every single action you can legally take in the situation to protect your assets. Meanwhile, until everything is ready, make it life as usual, just going through it, no sign of anything going on.

Don't kid yourself dude, just because you think the wife has no clue, doesn't mean that's the case. Typically women "get the message" months in advance of the man, they are just that much more attuned. And they act on it in secret to secure their advantage. So if you've been feeling something isn't right, isn't working out, then you can be 90% confident she has already investigated HER options in this regard months before you ever suspected anything. If I were you, I'd be hypervigilant right about now in regard to the "oopsie, we got preg sweetheart!" possibilities.

You're like a man on the edge of a cliff, staring down and contemplating the fall. Instead of thinking about the injuries you'll inevitably take, your thoughts are all about how your mangled bod could be found by an innocent girl wandering in the woods picking berries, and could really hurt her feelings a lot to see that mess.

killtheblue · 2015-09-24T23:18:56+00:00

1year in after swallowing the pillow I'm having some issues with my 17 year ltr and wanting to end it but we have kids. My mind is still utterly destroyed from the pill but I'm making progress. I wish I would have found this sub many years sooner but better late than never. Good luck.

rporion · 2015-09-24T23:40:22+00:00

In my mind, you already have your answer, will you bring children into this world you do not really want?

Will you be shackled to a woman you cannot even talk to?

Kale_Eater_Bro · 2015-09-24T23:54:18+00:00

ACTA NON VERBA BROTHER. Swallow it.

The_BeardedGentleman · 2015-09-24T23:57:25+00:00

Don't ever do counseling. That is not only a waste of money, but also a great way to get ganged up on by the female imperative.

tutumay · 2015-09-25T00:29:52+00:00

A couple people mentioned assets. We really don't have much. She brought most of the furnishings of the house. We don't have any shared assets. We both drive paid off older cars.

Though I have about $10000 in tools from before the marriage and a project car. I was hoping for something like a undisputed dissolution and going to a mediator. But should probably prepare for the worst.

She brought about 30k in debt to the marriage in which we have paid half off, and she has a couple 401k's. I have no retirement as we have concentrated on paying off debt.

Cruel_Man · 2015-09-25T02:27:23+00:00

The first step is to realize that at an objective level, what you actually choose doesn't matter as much as you think it does. It really, honestly doesn't.

I say that as a 32 year old man who is utterly bored with modern living.

What matters is whether you are getting bullied into one position or another. Your task is to make sure that YOU decide what happens to you.

Beyond that, having children really won't impact you in a significant way unless you 'opt in'. Right from the get-go you can assert your preference for your wife to take on the most pressing child rearing issues.

Most likely, your big concerns are not knowing whether or not a god exists and if your efforts at working will have any lasting, meaningful impact. Kids may factor into this, but as I said, only if you allow them.

I am pre-disposed toward children, not because I want them, but because I am curious to see what they do. My philosophy on raising children is that I am training adults, and that is a significant departure from existing rearing paradigms.

Consider if there is another, unorthodox way of looking at this that will align with your values before you pull the trigger on your marriage.

fit_to_fight · 2015-09-25T02:10:48+00:00

Coming from a small town, religious, wanting a husband and kids at an early age is rare..and a good thing. Too bad it hasn't worked out. Best of luck.

icecow · 2015-09-25T08:13:21+00:00

You obviously grew up embracing the shit wisdom that surrounds everyone. Don't be complacent. Get a divorce and take the knocks, minimizing them.

The mantra that should be going through your head is: NEVER bring up, or hint in any way about divorce while you plan one out. Same with redpill. Don't mumble something redpilli-sh about this or that.

After a certain number of years of marriage alimony becomes automatic, and permanent over her lifetime (or until she marries someone else?) Laws very state to state. You might want to look in to that and get divorced before that deadline.

You might want to talk to a lawyer way before you discuss a breakup with her. Maybe you can make your assets unavailable to a divorce or put them where she wouldn't know to ask about them. I don't know how it works. Talk to a lawyer way before you bring it up to her.

You might want to plan two years to dodge a huge bullet, much like many woman plan two years to take everything you are worth.

theultmatecad · 2015-09-25T10:24:40+00:00

This is your life and it's ending a minute at a time.

Are you going to spend it pursuing your happiness?

oldredder · 2015-09-27T00:09:59+00:00

As long as you know what you want you can just hide/protect your assets and go. Or lose little as the marriage was a short one. Don't get married again. Women marry so they can use you for status and/or have your babies.

That's the purpose of it. And of course be legally entitled to your resources.

WarmApfelPi · 2015-09-27T13:22:24+00:00

Women generally aren't good with things of substance. You'll generally need to take the lead on it. How does she shut down on you? What exactly does she do?

trainsalt · 2015-09-25T00:07:18+00:00

Don't feel bad for yourself. She sees that her friends have kids, and her not having any makes her feel like a loser. Women follow the herd and hardly form opinions themselves. This is the case in many aspects of life. You need to think about your assets in a situation like this.

Any disagreement we have (which is few, and in that alone i think is a problem), She will just shut down and the issue never gets resolved. I know something like that can be fixed in marriage counseling, but even then......

Don't think like this. Marriage counseling is only good for one thing: taking your money. Counseling helps no one and gives you false solutions.

Title	Thinking about taking the red pill
Author	tutumay
Upvotes	0
Comments	34
Date	September 24, 2015 11:06 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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