This sub is about sexual strategy. Let's discuss some.

drqxx · 2014-01-17T05:46:44+00:00

Confidence and being slightly mean. Also I always make a girl buy me a shot if she want to talk to me. Doesn't always work but weeds out the gold diggers.

heist_of_saint_graft · 2014-01-17T06:10:20+00:00

Someone once said that all of philosophy was footnotes to Plato.

I think all of the seduction community is footnotes to The Tao of Steve.

Goofy movie with a copout ending, but Steve's principles are really all you need:

Be excellent
Be desireless
Be gone

So for example, all the pages written about DHVs, AMOGing, pre-selection, are footnotes to (1) "Be excellent." Once you understand on a gut level what it means to be excellent, you don't need the little tactics. You have the strategy.

"Negging" is just an elaboration of "be desireless". (And the reason it's so often misinterpreted is because guys don't neg desirelessly, they neg and giggle over themselves in a clear ploy at the woman.)

Instead of trying to read a seduction book, I'd encourage any RedPiller curious about game to think about those traits, how to project them, and why they might work. Your own thoughts and experiences implementing them will be all the PUA strategy you need.

unsungman · 2014-01-17T15:52:26+00:00

I don't think there's anything wrong with the last part...as long as you have the $. Most guys do the whole "better provider" angle without thinking. They want to provide as a means to be with a woman. So, to provide they sometimes impress. Expensive dinners. Gifts. Drinks on them. So on and so fourth. It's logical but it all adds up and some can't keep up. Hence they go bust. Enter DeepThrill presenting the allure of a better "beta provider" with alpha tendencies.

Bottom line is you're banking on hypergamy with this strategy. Not a bad strategy, since it's pretty much a timeless strategy but again...alot depends on you having the $ and value (and the ability to maintain it to mitigate someone else trying to pull the same thing on you). That's the funny thing about hypergamy. You can game it in your favor but you can't rule out the same being done to you. It's pretty much the definition of hypergamy so it comes with the territory.

I don't know why...but all of this got me thinking about leveraged buyouts. Other than that, I'd say for your particular situation you can hint at being a better provider to your advantage but plenty of broke dudes with balls can pull off upsets by just "going for it" despite being poor prospects in terms of providing.

"Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you can't score."

mrpoopistan · 2014-01-17T06:16:43+00:00

I think tit for tat as a sexual strategy needs to be hedged in the guy's favor. Treating it as a pure iterative prisoner's dilemma model isn't going to get it done. You have to come out the winner.

It's not necessary to be the overwhelming winner, but it should feel like that point in a boxing match entering round 11 where you clearly know who's behind on the judges' cards.

I'm not one for keeping score, mostly because I tend to not stick around long enough to justify wasting a pencil and a scorecard. But, most versions I've seen argue for about a 3/2 ratio, meaning that for every three wins she gives you, you give her two.

deepthrill · 2014-01-17T05:55:01+00:00

Tit for tat is one of the core concepts of our game, yes, as is frame control. These things are obvious and heavily linked in our various posts on the basics. For most guys this struggle is a question of nerve, the nerve to make approaches, the nerve to escalate, the nerve to enforce boundries, the nerve to next, etc. I think we focus less on analysing specific strategies because we don't want theorists, we want practical appliers.

Having said all that, I dont think I'd touch anything resembling "special to each other" until she really earned it but if you actually closed with that then who am I to disagree.

If we are really to go into analysis I think the most beneficial thing would be to look more into "The way I am phrasing it" etc. The general topic of delivery, we all know that we can say some wild/offensive/creepy otherwise awful things and get the desired result if we deliver it correctly, but little is said about how to deliver well. The general "be confident" and whatnot is certainly helpful but I wonder if folks can't figure out how to do that. I notice a lot of guys when they are trying just feel fake, they have the wrong vibe on them and people pick up on that. How does one control their vibre?

If you ask me, a lot of that is in the eyes, just closing them a little bit, not a squint but the shape your eyes get when there is a smirk on your face, just a slight raising of the lower eyelid. Those are confidence eyes, as opposed to the wide open fearful eyes. The other is general posture, not leaning towards your target but playing the back and fourth, encouraging her to lean to you. Then finally your general voicing, slowing it down and resonating out of your chest more than your throat, to get that deeper voice without it sounding fake, think the way a singer opens up their pipes. Those little tips I think woud go a long way to helping new folks understand proper delivery beyond simply telling them to be assertive and confident, that stuff too would sound obvious to the experienced folks.

But still, I don't really like to go into deep analysis, in my opinion this is all bout simply growing balls and doing shit.

rj88631 · 2014-01-17T06:40:11+00:00

Saying that you are better than her boyfriend is in my experience a very strong move if you can pull it off with confidence.

mrpoopistan · 2014-01-17T06:00:00+00:00

Anyone have advice on club game?

I.e. game where there is no talking.

MasterGolbez · 2014-01-17T14:47:29+00:00

when it comes to texting, I don't really think about it

if I'm using my phone and I get a text I usually reply right away regardless of how long I'd been waiting for the text

other times I go hours without looking at my phone and that's even knowing that I've received a text

I see no point in trying too hard to act like you're not trying too hard

blazingblue16 · 2014-01-17T11:17:06+00:00

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Title	This sub is about sexual strategy. Let's discuss some.
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Date	January 17, 2014 5:15 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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