Controlling vs take charge?

strategos_autokrator · 2015-09-21T09:26:50+00:00

That she will decide when she is ready to move on to sex positions, and that I need to consider how she feels more often.

Note how she is telling you (as if she is the one in charge) that she will control things.

I think the big question is: what is your SMV? whatever it is, you need to improve it.

Think about it this way: if Brad Pitt wanted to have sex with her, she wouldn't tell him that, she would just do whatever she wants him to do. This is because women submit in a fundamental instinctual way to high SMV man. So keep working on it, and take it slow.

Remember: for every year of marriage, it will take about one month before things change.

Countpudyoola · 2015-09-21T13:46:50+00:00

I didn't respond because STFU seemed like a better than a discussion

3 cheers for you grasping the most important concept we try to drill into guys heads!

stonepimpletilists · 2015-09-21T13:41:56+00:00

Her words were not used to convey information. Like /u/strategos_autokrator is saying... they are a statment crafted to get the intended result... you not fucking her in a submissive way.

Most likely a SMV thing. Get better game, become a better man... what combination of the two is really for you to decide. In the future, you can internalize the two things you have, and the one thing you want.

You want sexual access, and more to the core... to be desired by her. The things you have to offer are your affection, and commitment. The former is valued as much as your SMV, the latter... well, you married her, so she sees it as a given.

So you have SMV and DREAD as your tools here to ensure you get what you want out of the relationship, and the latter is only as valuable as the former, no one cares about dread from a fatbody e.g.

More to your point.

She doesn't have a jaded view of sex, she just doesn't want to fuck a low-smv man. We can argue whether she is good enough to warrant that idea, but she has it nonetheless.

Luckily for you, you are considering how she feels, it's just that she isn't. The same way a fish doesn't understand the nuances of fishing, it just knows that the bait looks really good.

In the future, when you're in a position of being shut down, offered starfish sex, or general dismissal of your desires, you'll have built up your tools. You have something better to do, because it actually is more important than missionary sex. you can get up mid thrust, because you know it's basically masturbation with starfish sex.

Either way, don't let it phase you, pushback will happen, regardless of how far you've come, or how good you are now. I notice on the brad pitt test, it never goes far enough. Sure, that girl with drop everything for him, but after she moves in, she is clearly in his league, and will now think of him in the same way... I'm sure I could do better

bogeyd6 · 2015-09-21T18:07:33+00:00

Trying to trudge through WISNIFG.

You know, there is some truth there. That is a very long book. Wordy and the stories in it are just sometimes stupid. Seems like someone should write WISNIFG Cliff Notes edition.

In regards to your sex life.

Your perceived SMV value is out of whack to hers. Without getting to theoretical just know that you not only need to bump yours a few points, you also need her to see it without telling her about it. For instance take her to gym with you, or let her see you making some young cashier laugh and smile. Double points if you don't look back to see her reaction. It's possible that she does not yet see you as more valuable than her. This will come with time. The two books you read and apply doesnt make her a submissive slave in the bedroom. Not yet anyways. Women will do ANYTHING for the right man.

This is a common pushback. Frankly, in the beginning some people are not even seeing sex on a weekly basis so you got that going for you. My advice if you take it. Start with more simple alpha sex. Doesn't matter who initiates. Deep long full kissing up against the wall. Then gingerly throw or guide her hard onto the bed. Do whatever position she is comfortable with. Start with slow long strokes and as you get lubricated start forcefully pounding her slowly. Not quickly. Just come out slow and ram in hard. When she uses her legs or hands to get you to go faster, pound it like you stole it. Pull out when you are done and go straight to the bathroom or whatever. If she wants to cuddle, maybe do that but only for about 10-15 seconds.

The lesson here is she gets fucked hard without even being told or forced to do it. There are some subconcious things here at play. One's that you would do well to work to your advantage.

Title	Controlling vs take charge?
Author	Kosmoknots
Upvotes	5
Comments	5
Date	September 21, 2015 9:12 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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