double standards?

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BrunoOh · 2014-10-28T03:57:03+00:00

Then you need some grade A framing. You need to to argue from the feelz. Let the hamster do the work for you.

For example, some guys don't want to pay for the entire date. If you frame this wrong, you'll be accused of being selfish and disrespectful of the woman. Instead, say that you respect women very much. You don't want them to feel that they are paid for their time, like a prostitute. You feel that paying for dates makes them feel they owe you their companionship or sexual favors and that that is pure manipulation.

Or take quotas. Argue that it diminishes the achievements of women already in that field because people will (and do) assume that woman is only there because of her vagina. Plus, if women are so good, they'll automatically float to the top. A strong independent woman needs no quotas.

Misteralcala · 2014-10-28T04:20:10+00:00

Argue that 70% of divorces are initiated by women, most women get custody of children in divorce.

Mention that genital mutilation (circumcision) is a common practice on males, and is condemned when it is done to females.

Feminism: fighting for gender equality by ensuring that one gender gets preferential treatment.

The holes you can shoot in their arguments are HUGE.

the wage gap is a myth - it takes the number of TOTAL men and women, adds them together, then subtracts the difference. This is ALL people, including CEOs and Avon saleswomen. The study does not compare men and women in the same job, same company for the same length of time like they love to imply.

Colleges have more women enrolled than men.

If they bring up that there are fewer women in engineering and tech, point out that it's by choice - there are also fewer women in coal mining, lumber mills and offshore oil drilling.

More women are murdered by their SOs than men. Why? We are only given the end result, not the cause of death. Why are women getting themselves killed?

The arguments are numerous and varied. Have fun shooting them down.

MrEiffel · 2014-10-28T07:34:32+00:00

So you have two options:

A) Destroy their false truths with undeniable statistics and arguments. No matter how well you frame it they will hate you for it since you attacked their priviliged position of having the right on their own facts.

Won a meaningless debate => destroy any reputation you have at the university with a harsh backlash from SJW's & feminist professors alike.

B) Think what you like and say what is appreciated. Nitpick on some inane regulation nobody gives a shit about so you don't really lose the debate, but you're not even arguing to win.

Lose debate => save reputation.

I Think the 48 Laws of Power should be a good read for you.

AlphaAsFAQ · 2014-10-28T01:13:18+00:00

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moiez326 · 2014-10-28T04:17:38+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oyrG3PcgLk

while it's in comedy form, I'm sure you can take away the lesson/message in his stand up. It's that sexualizing of women is for a reason: it follows biology. Why on earth would a healthy normal woman want to fuck/marry a guy who is shorter than her, dumber than her, less attractive level, makes less money than her. etc. ?

Rush-into-the-fray · 2014-10-28T05:46:56+00:00

There is no argument. Directly confront hamstering. They can't change the subject unless you let them. You want to know the end game of feminism? Ask your long term girlfriend where she wants to go eat.

Title	double standards?
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Date	October 28, 2014 12:32 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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