-Hello all. long-time lurker, first time poster. ive technically been swallowing the pill for about a year but have had Red pill ideals for years I just didnt know what to call them. I'm posting today because I need help on how to approach my brother about his beta behaviour. This might be a little long because i think knowing our background will help you see his upbringing & mentality. Skip to the bold STORY HERE & ---- for main issue.

-A little backstory: we have the same mother but different fathers. Said mother has eight children by four men. Said mother also is narcissistic, abusive (only physically not sexually).

-My father dated her when she had 6 kids by three men. He told me she was only supposed to be a one-night stand but she stalked him & literally broke his answering machine from calling & leaving so many messages.(even though she's crazy i would like to think my father is some sex god & that was passed on to me). he said he dated her for a while but then left when the crazy became extreme.

-He came back because he knew she would ruin the children if she was left alone with raising them.(some might say it's beta but he thoroughly improved 6 children's lives by not allowing a crazy woman to raise them alone. some credit is due). He stayed with her & had 2 kids (me & my sister).

-Everywhere we moved, which was about twice a year, my mother & some fat woman she had living with us shared a room & my dad shared a room with me or stayed in the basement. Apparently my mother was a lesbian which she told my dad after they were married.

-Extreme beta. this is when I found TRP because I don't want to be like him. I think that's why the red pill made so much sense at my young age. currently 18 but I knew at around 14 my whole upbringing & world views were bullshit.

-There's a lot to write but im only writing what's immediately pertinent to this story. He left her when we were teenagers so she couldn't try to turn us against him. By that time we all already hated her. My siblings have softened their stance against her with the stupid thought that "i dont like her but thats my mother & i only have one." bullshit. if someone doesnt have your best interests at heart , fuck them. no matter who it is. The value of someone in your life needs to be more than we're family.

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  • My brother is currently in jail for something he didn't do. I know what you're saying. Everyone in jail is innocent but his lawyer actually had proof the other party was lying but if it went to trial it was 5 years vs 40 years so he took the 5. when he was younger he was in an accident by a major company & he has a structured settlement for life from them monthly.

    -He also has anger issues which I haven't personally seen but my sisters say it's true. I think it stems from not having to work because he has money & not having to develop discipline sort of like a rich kid born with a silver spoon & because he had no strong male figure. My dad was there but if you read above you would see he was no shining ray of masculinity.

    -He also fell into gang life because he wanted to be like my oldest brother who he looked up to. I never got into it because it's idiotic. He has since renounced it which im glad about. He was in a relationship with a girl before he left.

    -Both have cheated on each other in the relationship. they've been together for 9 years. he was supposed to parole with her when he gets out but she recently went to visit him & told him she was moving with someone else named Billy & wouldn't be able to talk to or see him anymore.

    -They were mostly only talking on the phone anyway because she lives in another state. he asked her what would happen when he came out & she said she will have to make a decision but for right now she's with the other guy. he completely lost his mind & started acting like a bitch.

    -Having his friends make a fake Facebook page, (I'm the one he talks too most often but I told him I wasn't doing that stupid shit & to just let her go.) having multiple friends text her phone, sending walls of text to her. he also posted on the fake Facebook page telling people her phone number. Here are two examples:

This is what he wanted me to send her by pretending to be a girl to make her break up with her new boyfriend:

-i was with Billy (new boyfriend) before but now we're just off & on. dont take this message the wrong way but just know i dont know you i just know what he tell me about you. I went on your facebook page to see how u look, but i think i saw u before somewhere. Billy's so disrespectful dont care about nothing but himself.

-At one time i did love him im not going to act like i didnt. You are probably wondering y i didn't write u on your page but i have your number so I thought ill just text u instead. i just want to give u a heads up-he's not what he seems girl bcuz he talks mad shit about u. about how u need him to go out of town with u bcuz you're scared n u can't do anything yourself. He talks shit about your family. how you're foster mama fat n got a tall sugar daddy.

  • He says your family lives in a old dirty building with roaches. And he says you're supposed to be bringing your aunt or grandma with you out of town, but she's old & sick and he tryna get u to put her in a old folks home bcuz he's not trying to play Dr. Phil. he just doesn't know what he says hurts people really bad. I know you have a good job. you better watch your checks. And he also told me that you're leaving your ex for him.

-He said he's going to write your ex(my brother) saying its over between yall bcuz u wont do it. he's so insecure. that's why i took my page down bcuz he thought all the boys on my page were with me. he doesn't understand i can have boys as a friend and not fuck them. i swear he act like he's the girl with a pussy. but all that to the side, im not going to lie im writing bcuz he said yall having kids( another lie) & that hurt me right there. it had me thinking whats wrong with me? i have a car, job, & crib too so whats wrong with me?

-I was pregnant before by Billy & he was happy. then he started throwing shade & one day he told me i got to get rid of my child. He didnt help me pay for my abortion or didn't take me to go get it either. my name is vanessa. I'm just writing you to get this off my chest. I'm happy that he moving on & i dont have to deal with his ass. thanks for taking him off my hands. go have a drink for both of us.

-THIS IS COMPLETELY REAL!! He thought this up in one day & read it to me over the phone. I guess he threw in some personal stuff like the foster stuff to make it seem real i dont know i dont know the girls family situation. he thought I would send it to her but I told him im not going to do it because it's not going to help. it's just going to make you more invested in her while she out fucking this dude. he doesn't care & had his friends do it . it didn't work at all

This is the latest thing he sent to her:

-please read this. i know you're about tired of me but this shit hurt. i know u like "man, im having everybody call to speak for me", but you know how i act. do u remember a long time ago when i was taking you back to jobcorp & we were upset with each other & you were sayin you're leaving me? what did i do? jump out the car because that shit hit me so fast. thinking about it now that shit was crazy but it was real i couldn't deal with it.

-i was walking up & down that busy street for a minute thinking about what u said.you said what u said a week ago (When she told him about the other guy) & that shit still heavy on my heart like you said it yesterday. No, i dont want u to feel sorry for me. i know i told u to leave me while I'm here but if i knew it hurt so bad i wouldnt fix up my mouth to say that. i dont have a problem with you fucking with somebody. it's just when your talking about u have to turn your back to do so. u think i dont know what you're feeling?

-That all i want is u to be here for me, but what about u right? what you're going through i can do everything else but i cant be the one to hold u at night, kiss u in the morning b4 u go to work, be there with u when u get in a mood. i notice bae. dont think i dont. i know what you're going through but its not the time to be falling for someone bcuz i know all that shit feel right bcuz i havent been there but what about me? about my feelings?

-You know i hate when people turn their back on me. you could've walked away in the beginning not now. in the middle of your chest that thing that's beating belong to me if you dont remember anything else remember that(he got the position of the heart wrong). we have something. jus give me a chance to show u please. 9 months left. so im going to say this again. i need that address in april so i can put my parole site in.

-Dont have me looking stupid in april then have me sittin around waiting on a shelter to accept me. why the fuck do i have to wait for a shelter & bae got a crib already? i talked to the counselor a week & a half ago & i got approved for my good time. he's going to put it in at the end of this year so I'll be home the end of july or early august. dont have my out date go by bcuz you're caught up in your feelings & im waiting on a shelter. i knew my new out date but u fucked me up with your words. (when she told him about the boyfriend)

-Dont let that shit out there go to your head. its supposed to be get money fuck all these other people. gtfo your feelings and get your head back in the game. we got thru the storm already. u got me walking around with my heart on my face. you know my situation already so if i get out there & something happen to me im blamin u for it.

-This is one of the saddest things I've ever heard. he tried to guilt trip the girl with saying he was going to have to go to a shelter which is a lie. he has family & if he can't go with her he's coming with us. another thing when she told him she wanted to break up they were driving & he jumped out the car while he was driving. he told me he contemplated suicide after she wanted to leave him.

-This might be the deepest I've ever seen someone in the blue pill. it's surprising because when he was out he spun plates like crazy but made the mistake of lying to the girl & saying they were exclusive. This is what she wrote to him after he sent the last message:

-I read it and tell him he know he Billy is going to be staying with me and the fuck he talking about a shelter for like he ain't got family? tell him to knock it off. When that time come we will see where shit standing but for now I'm with billy and he gotta respect that.

-tell him to put his heart in his pocket and stop acting crazy .he knows our bond he's going to be ok. But there's no more texting and calling. I'm going to be around my boyfriend everyday after today so please don't because I'm not going to reply.

-More than likely , when he gets out they will get back together & he's told me if they do he's going to marry her & wants kids with her. he's 26 she's 24. she also has his name tattooed on her & he has her lips tattooed on him. As you may be able to tell I matured very quickly & women twice my age say I'm mature so I'd like to think I know a thing or too.

-I've told him to leave her alone but he won't listen because I think he thinks I'm young but I've been through what I thought was heartbreak ( it seems going through a bad breakup is a requirement before you find TRP) & i told him leave her alone & forget about her. my sister told him he's acting like a pussy & he said "i dont care . I'll be a pussy . I love her".

-I don't know what else to say & need advice on how to get his head out of his ass. I want to send him some red pill stuff but I'm hesitant because he could go through his anger phase in there & that might be disastrous. I think he has an extreme case of oneitis because he says he can't live without her. I've seen the stories about guys losing a lot of money & their kids to divorce & i have a feeling he's going down that path.

-I understand some people have to make their own mistakes but this mistake could be potentially life altering. I was waken early but i dont think he ever was, despite our upbringing. Some advice on how to safely get him on the pill will be extremely helpful.