Hey guys, don't be easy on me, I need the most hard advice you can give. So I found the Red Pill this summer... changed my philosophy on women and life... blah blah blah. Anyway, it has seemed to be working. Many of my friends tell me that I'm too overconfident, or that I act too aloof, or that I should care more about stuff, and when people see how I don't reply to texts from girls or say something mean, they call me a dick. It's ok, I can handle that.
I'm ok with this because my life has improved. I feel more confident than ever. Girls actually talk to me, but I never act needy or as if I'm honored by their presence. They should be honored by mine. Of course, I still act BP often, and sometimes I hit crossroads and I can't even figure out which path is BP or RP. For the most part, however, I'm happy with my journey, however I'm definitely not even close to being a true Red Piller.
So to the story. About a month ago this one girl (let's call her Emily) who I knew from being on my team was at church with me. She talked to me and was initiating most of it, I acted like I didn't care. However as she kept talking to me I escalated and started flirting with her. I stole her phone, and then I chased her into the girls bathroom when she stole mine, no fucks given. We got very physical, I kept pushing her around, not in any sort of mean or abusive way, but in a friendly, playful, but dominant way, and she was enjoying it. When I was leaving, she and another girl came over to say goodbye to me and give me a hug. When Emily hugged me, I reached down and grabbed her ass, and she laughed, and then when the next girl hugged me I did the same to her, because why not?
Later that night, Emily sends me a direct message on Groupme asking for my phone number. She starts texting me, I'm short and to the point but still flirty, and then I don't reply to one of her messages. She then texts me goodnight 30 min later. The next day she texts me again, and so it begins. We become decent friends during the season, and we occasionally have deep conversations. Now she is a freshman, I am a junior, so I acted in a way that told her that I wouldn't go for a freshmen.
Then one day at church, she tells me about how she wants to break up with her boyfriend, and i listen and tell her she should, her boyfriend is a loser (he was becoming an electronic cigarette dealer). Now someone else on the team takes a pic of us talking and makes a heart around us with his hands. He posts it to the team Groupme and captions it "I don't go for freshmen" in quotes because I did say that. Almost everyone on the team liked it. Emily got uncomfortable, and asked me to finish the conversation somewhere else, with less people were around. The next day after practice she asks me to come with her as she breaks up with her boyfriend. I give him a handshake, say whats up, and keep walking. She then runs up to me a minute later telling me how it went. Then she walks with me until I get to my class, and I say bye and she says bye [my name] I love you! and I'm gone by then. I think she is just joking around playfully when she says that, because she continued to say that whenever we leave after talking.
I text her the next day asking her to play would you rather with me. We played a few days before and it was really fun. She started, but then never replied after a said your turn after answering one of hers. So the next day I tell her she can't not reply like that, so I'm not going to talk to her for 7 days. Now I feel like that was a BP move, but it gets worse. The next day she runs up to me and says hi, then starts poking and and getting mad saying "stop ignoring me" but I maintain frame. However the next day at practice she takes my phone out of my hand while I'm on it, so it's unlocked, and I had no choice but to go get it back, and I end up talking to her and breaking after just a day. We flirt a little for the rest of the day.
So a few days later Emily texts me, asking me to come hang out with her. I do not reply because I am busy. Her best friend then sends me a snapchat saying "Emily isn't talking to you for 7 days" and I say "ok". So the next day we had a meet, and at the meet she is refusing to talk to me, I poke her cheek and then walk away because I don't really care. Later, she sees me talking to this girl and comes up to me and says my name, and then she hugs me, really tightly. I say wow you only lasted a few hours and then she gets her friend to take pictures of us hugging. We then take a casual pic together, and she posts it to instagram later that day. For the rest of the awards ceremony she leans into me. Like I'm standing next to her, and she scoots over so that her upper arm and shoulder are touching mine, and if I move a little she moves with me. Then when she leaves, she gives me the biggest hug ever, right in front of her mom. Now people are really starting to notice, everyone thinks I'm going for her and I'm being labeled the freshman slayer. I don't really care because she's hot.
I text her later that day if she wants to come see the new star wars movie with me. She says she wants to come, but says she has never seen a star wars movie. I tell her I have the dvds and we could "star wars and chill" at her place, she says ok, and we don't set an official date, but in a few weeks after her soccer season is over she said we can bc I told her it had to be a weekend. She texts me "this better happen" and I tease her a little before reminding her that it will.
The next day at practice she doesn't really acknowledge me or greet me with a hug. The whole team was in one spot tho. I starting thinking that she only shows her affection when no one else is around, but she did post that pic to instagram for all to see. So I barely talk to her, then at the end of practice when everyone had left, I walked into the gym because it was raining and I was soaked. She was there, said hi to me and asked me to hold her hand. I told her my hands were cold and wet, she said she could warm them up, so we held hands. Then she leaned into me and we hugged for a while, like a solid 5 min of hugging until my ride came, then i said bye and she said "I love you". I replied back "I love you too" for some reason. I only do this one other time. A few days later I tease her when she says she loves me and she tells me I've said it back before. I said "yeah, once, and I didn't mean it." And she said "Actually twice, and I never meant it either."
But now I am certain she is into me. Then it goes south.
I tell my friend Dave that me and Emily have a thing, and he gets weird about it. He tells me later that day that asked her and she said that me and her "were just friends". I then got confused and asked Emily's best friend to ask her. She tells me that Emily says we are just friends, she thinks I'm funny. We then had a meet a few days later. Even after Dave and her friend tell me this Emily acts flirty as always with me. Then at the meet, she seems to be avoiding me, and she is talking to this one guy, Rob. They sit down and just talk for hours. I ask Emily to come see something that I want to show her. I was in the trails and I found this really cool route that leads to an abandoned building from long ago. She is hesitant, so I say we can bring my friend Stephen along too. She then gets up to go, then as I start walking she sits back down. I'm super confused. I get BP and say "ok, I guess you just want to talk to Rob". She gets up and says "No I don't! Fine." and then as I leave she sits back down again. I'm super confused. I start getting a ton of doubt, she has given me so many signals, I have plans with her, but Dave and her friend say she isn't into me anyway. I feel like she just doesn't want other people to know she is into me, and she thinks people will notice us going into the trails.
I'm lost, I ask a few people for advice and tell them everything. They tell me there is no way she doesn't like me, it is super obvious. They then say she is trying to make me jealous with Rob. I stop paying her attention the rest of the day. Then, as we are leaving, she walks right past me without saying bye, and i get really mad. I walk off the course and I spot her and another girl buying t shirts. I go talk to the other girl. She asks me to take a pic with her, and we do. Then we are talking about what we will do after the season is over, this is our last meet. I say I'm playing basketball. Emily then asks me "can I come to some of your games?" and I say "I don't know" and then keep talking to the other girl. Then as Emily starts to leave, she just waves bye. I get pissed, go BP and say "do I not get a hug?" because this is our last meet, and she always gives me a hug, and I don't know what her problem is. She hugs me, but its weak. Now I'm pissed. I post the pic of me and the other girl to instagram. She comments on it saying I stole her caption, I don't say anything else.
The next day she texts me a pic of my older brother, who is in college, and says "your brother is hot". I get pissed and reply "why are you texting me?" and after a few hours she says "I'm kidding hahahaha" then asks if I'm mad at her. I say "should I be?" and she says "no" and then "what's with the attitude?" I reply "what attitude?" That was yesterday. Today we didn't talk at all. I don't know what to do.
I feel like I have oneitis. Maybe I've failed her shit tests. Maybe she's playing mind tricks on me. Maybe she doesn't even like me like her friends told me when I asked them to find out. However everyone who I explained this to said that there is no way she doesn't like me. We still have plans, but I don't know what to do. My initial plan was to stop talking to her for a week or at least until she comes back around, basically radio silence. I told a few people that plan, they said it was a bad idea and that she would lose interest, but I still don't even know if there is interest. They told me to talk to her about "us" and ask if she likes me. I think that would be putting her on a pedestal and making me look lesser than her, and make me look insecure. I'm supposed to be the older guy she has no chance with. I just want to hook up with her, I'm not sure about a relationship, and I have a great chance in a few weeks at her place. However, we never actually set a date for that, but we did set a date for the new movie because I bought tickets.
So, Red Pill, what should I do? What do you take out of this? What did I do wrong? Should I give her radio silence and move on, should I cancel the plans, should I radio silence until the plans, should I take my friends advice and talk to her about "us"? Have I become a beta orbiter? Do I need to move on, or can I score here? I really need actual advice, because what do my friends know? How would a true Alpha, and true Red Piller handle this situation? Sorry this is so long, I just feel like these details are necessary, and I'm lost.
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