I have a question about behaviour.

zpatriarchy · 2015-02-21T16:59:39+00:00

they do not have empathy for weak men. you should never show your weakness to a girl, ever. they hate it. that's why they say things like "man-flu." stick with men for counseling.

but think about it, all girls are trying to find the best father for their kids, so when a man shows weakness, or sickness, they know the man is not fit.

RPSigmaStigma · 2015-02-21T17:30:18+00:00

I think the lack of empathy for weak men is a part of it sometimes, as /u/zpatriarchy says, but I think another major component of it is simply female solipsism. Women can only really emotionally identify with other women. So a woman can understand and empathize with the suffering and struggles of other women, but they simply can't understand problems men face. I think this is well explained by Rollo in his male experience article:

Women become very indignant when trying to understand the male experience. This is due in most part to women’s innate solipsism and their presumption that their experience is the universal one. Part of this presumption is due to social reinforcement, but that social presumption – essentially the equalist presumption – is rooted in women’s base indifference to anything external that doesn’t affect them directly and personally.

oldredder · 2015-02-21T18:55:14+00:00

There is no defense but armor & weapons and your close friends to bring you back.

They can get you stitched up quick if need be and get to a hospital or cab.

If you don't have those friends or the skill / luck to stitch yourself up - you're dead.

You can't rely on government, on police, on inept and hateful / stupid people to save your life.

I wouldn't.

I have extreme alertness at all times to be aware of who's got a gun, any weapon, and I have kevlar (soft) armor (knives; not bullets).

This behaviour is widespread with women, and even the population at large.

99% of the population is so stupid and wrong-headed they'd kill you by accident much less really get you help if you need it.

letmeseeyourrealface · 2015-02-21T19:57:01+00:00

This sounds very familiar to me. I was very paranoia for a while and had bad social anxiety but even men would treat me like crap. But yes men would be actually giving tips and the women I saw were kind of disinterested/cold/unapproachable.

It's a scary thing to see. I don't think everybody will see this side of people. But the good thing is, you learn from it. Seeing that video also sounds indeed how women would act towards me back then. Seeing that video makes me rage. By all means I don't hate women. It just showed me that society is not what it seems.

I got over all my crap on my own. It took a long time but I found that:

Diet helps a lot, cut out stimulants (coffee, etc.), sugar and other crap food, will make you feel better and less anxious, takes a while to adjust
Lift weights
Stop watching porn/any other hyperstimulus

fnordsnord · 2015-02-22T05:34:27+00:00

You've clearly got some heavy lifting to do with your issues.

And that's fine. We've all got baggage.

Now, permit me a metaphor. If you LITERALLY had a shitload of heavy baggage and you needed to deal with it, would you look for a woman to help you move it, or a dude?

Stick with male Councillors. Gay if you're gay, or straight if you're straight. They'll probably be more use to you.

sheridork · 2015-02-21T22:59:18+00:00

I'm a (female) student in a social work program, and unfortunately I'm not that surprised about your experience. Most of what we're taught has to do with helping women and families, with occasional focus on LGBT or male-specific material. When I bring up a men's issue I usually get brushed off by most classmates, but a couple people inevitably start nodding and you can see a light bulb goes on in their head. I'd stick with male counselors if I were you, like others have said they will probably have more genuine empathy for you. We women are told our whole lives that we have it worse than men, so most women aren't adept at actually trying to identify with your struggle.

Axoc · 2015-02-21T19:18:24+00:00

I think that a key point to keep in mind is how much of a joke Sweden has become. Things like not prosecuting rapists as long as they aren't native-born to Sweden, etc.

For all we know, she didn't help him out of some vague political reasoning since he was clearly Swedish and not an immigrant to the country.

There are definitely extremists out there in the multiculturalist movement who would rather see their own countrymen die if it means their multiculturalist utopia can happen.

Amused mastery is honestly the only way through situations like this. I don't expect you to chuckle at this video, but eventually you'll realize and start thinking of other aspects to the video. Instead of, "I'm so furious I can't believe she didn't lose her job or spend time in prison!" you'll start seeing it as, "Wow, I wonder if there was any case of affirmative action at work here. Maybe she could have had an ulterior motive here. etc".

A lot of guys here might see that and think I'm either hating on women or giving them too much credit, but whenever you're estimating how badly somebody can ruin your life, it's always better to overestimate rather than underestimate.

Edit: I was wrong about Sweden. The non prosecution is only officially active in Finland, home of the infamous billboard ( https://themuslimissue.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/senegal-finland-rape-billboard.jpg ) but Sweden is still one of the worst countries for rape per capita on the planet. I understand the danger in using biased (especially biased toward the right wing) sources in this day and age, but here you go ( https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/listen-to-swedish-eu-and-un-rep-margot-wallstrom-laugh-at-swedish-victims-of-muslim-rape/ ).

Note that while the billboard is obviously a photoshop, it shows the feelings of the Finnish citizens and their take on the (actual, not imagined) rape culture of their country. I hate that I had to use the same source for both links, but I'm on break at work and can't do too much research right now.

AnarchyBurger101 · 2015-02-22T00:05:51+00:00

Watch the movie Clerks, and Clerk 2 for yucks. Clerks 1, you start to understand the industry of dealing with people pretty fast. To stay sane, you gotta be kind of a jackoff now and then.

I think the book Survivor by the guy who wrote Fight Club and has an unspellable, unpronouncable name, spells it out pretty good too. Lullaby was a fun one as well.

You'll learn more about shit from watching that movie, and reading the two books than you will from dicking around with councilors who get paid the same if you get better, if you don't, or even if you jump off a bridge. They have zero incentive to help you, they're punching a clock to get paid, end of story.

As for recovery and shit like that, give this book a try. http://michaelwdean.com/UMFTHE/Users_Manual_for_The_Human_Experience-eBook.pdf And the audio book for the extremely lazy. :D http://podiobooks.com/title/a-users-manual-for-the-human-experience/

As for self esteem, it's a sort of 90s feel good psychobabble term. Forget it. You need to cultivate a sort of "fuck the world, what's in it for ME?" attitude. You're going to have to start shutting out negative influences/people in your life, and keep doing it until you're in a state of mind where you can deal with a few of em here and there.

Got a counselor who's some female punching a clock? If you have the option, cut the appointment short. Otherwise, talk about random bullshit. Cool things that you found while shopping. Or start spacing out when she jabbers a bunch of bullshit questions. Just say something like, "I'm just not following today. Didn't get enough sleep. Can you write down the questions. Large print please, kind of fuzzy eyed too."

They'll understand if you're kind of checked out for the day, and just burning up time like they are.

A few times like that, and maybe you can request a male counselor, just say you can't really connect with women, or their mannerisms are too distracting for you to focus. If they keep prodding, you can blurt out that you keep imagining you're face fucking them. ;) Most of those people are too stupid not to gossip something like that, and from then on, you'll be poison. Females will NOT want to deal with you in the future if they can help it. :D

Title	I have a question about behaviour.
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Date	February 21, 2015 4:48 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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