OKC problem: I know texts are bad, especially long ones, and should be avoided, but what is the right number before you can ask a girl out?

likechoklit4choklit · 2014-04-09T19:40:28+00:00

Every girl is different on OKC, some need you to additionally demonstrate value via the text interaction: typically, you can judge by the amount they write in their profiles as a measure of how many messages you should trade before expressing interest in meeting in real life. If they are still skittish, suggest coffees/teas meet up and if things work out in person, then suggest a nearby bar.

Long profiles typically demonstrate a need by the prospective partner that they want to be understood. You need to demonstrate at least the attempt to connect on that level with them. PARTICULARLY for girls that claim to be interested in casual sex. They are bombarded by messages all the time by men who search via that criteria alone, so you need to standout amongst that pack of men, many of whom will be better looking or make more money. The great equalizer in that arena is attentiveness: They can land cock in real life without effort, so they are here looking for something specific and probably intellectual/perceptive. They aren't lying when they express a desire for a good old fashioned roll in the hay, but they don't want their physical affection to be unvalued and unappreciated.

Around the 3rd to 5th message you need to express: 1.) that you don't really know if you'll click without actually meeting, due to "vibes." 2.) that you'de like to meet in a public place. 3.) that you have a fun place picked out with a possibility of a venue change (nearby park, bar, museum, AA meeting, whatever floats yer boat)

It's easy to kill on OKC, but you have to consider what other men do and set yourself apart while simultaneously understand what makes men attractive to women.

Are you a "laid back guy"? Stop that right now. Lead with what makes you unique: You ride a motorcycle and that you enjoy mixed martial arts because there is just something about defeating someone under threat of you breaking their arm.

Don't have the half naked selfie in front of a bathroom mirror. If you are fit, use a picture of you at the beach playing volley ball, or on a surf board, or cutting down a tree shirtless. If you are a technological person, have a swell picture of you at your desk looking productive and happy. Ideally you'de have both. You need to give a prospective partner an idea of how they can insert themselves into your life, even if you are just there for the sweet sweet booty. Think about it, anychick can bang an IT guy, you need to craft yourself as something someone will brag about fucking.

Never ask if they are into what you are: e.g. are you into white guys, older guys, younger guys? Just assume they are, as women have as cosmopolitan sexual fantasies as the average dude.

Women who message you first are the easiest to meet with. If you are sending the first message, you need to acknowledge that you read some of their profile and that you want to know more about them as a person...even if you don't, you have to cultivate the fantasy that you are an uberman. The high achieving yet nuancedly humble dude with a heart of gold and a cock of iron. The one word or one sentence introductory message is not effective unless the girl is desperate or desperately horny, which solidifies the case for you to sit down, think about what you have that she could want (other than an anonymous cock) and craft your intro in such a way to attract her to you, hard.
Otherwise, you are relying on luck or nymphomania.

The extra attention doesn't make you beta or weak or any other red pill stuff. It makes you highly effective. Most redpill ideology for pick ups doesn't work for experienced and intelligent women: they see it coming from a mile away, so if she looks smart (by the word usage in her profile) you are better off engaging intellectually while presenting nurture. If they have a scant profile, they are in the meat market and redpill advice applies more closely.

Also, People are fucking crazy in general. Some convos randomly stop, other women bombard you with enough red flags for unaddressed psychological health issues, and some will never meet up ever.

[deleted] · 2014-04-09T19:54:14+00:00

Like coding, there's a goal of efficency. You try to reach a goal of how to accomplish a task in the least amount of lines.

Similarly, with these girls, your goal is to get them to meet up with you in person in the least amount of texts sent. So there isn't a set number. Just aim for efficency.

Normally, I would just message them some cheesy pickup line relating to their profile content. By the time they respond, they would already have checked out your profile pic and made their decision. Then you just have to ask them out.

If they flake, move onto the next one. Two messages per girl. Three if she accepts. For me, any more and she's just a waste of time.

[deleted] · 2014-04-10T03:55:24+00:00

Whenever you feel like it.

Zaorish9 · 2014-04-09T19:07:42+00:00

Texting is not a medium that you should be communicating anything other than: Time, Place, What to Wear and Bring.

You go beyond that, the "tingles" will immediately die out because it's a woman's game to express herself through diarrhea amounts of verbal nonsense, only to leave you more confused.

Best way to do it: "Learn By Doing"

Fail multiple times on how to text someone, and you'll get it right eventually. If you stop however, you'll never get good and turn into one of those guys who thinks that "girls suck, bla" type mentality.

mikelovesvegas · 2014-04-09T19:25:46+00:00

NahDudeFkThat · 2014-04-10T11:40:55+00:00

It's all about trolling with strong intent on getting laid.

Throw in things like calculated vulnerability, challenging and playfully teasing/condescending and you're gonna be piling up the poon in no time.

Title	OKC problem: I know texts are bad, especially long ones, and should be avoided, but what is the right number before you can ask a girl out?
Author	Zaorish9
Upvotes	6
Comments	12
Date	April 9, 2014 6:50 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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