TL;DR - We have our eyes wide open to how messed up women are but we have some of our own issues, discuss.

When I first started learning game I met up with a cool French guy who used to travel the world doing nothing but day game (he had enough money to travel and not work, but was not rich). He had been to most major cities and never approached less than 100 women per week. I saw him in action several times, he would get numbers about 80% of the time.

We are both philosophically minded and we had a discussion one day about why we do it. We both agreed it would be nice to find a good girl and have someone who really loved you and cared about you, yet here we both were, sleeping with several women each per week and devoting so much time to our appearance and getting laid by vapid hotties.

We both quickly agreed that the easiest way to have what we want is to be with a less hot, more nerdy sort of girl, who has a soul, a brain and wants a partner to take care of. A girl who is not naturally pretty but who has a good personality and would display loyalty.

Yet we both agreed that our biological and sexual urges drive us to sleep around, and only with hot girls. It makes me think about our role in the whole fucked up mess we find ourselves in. We all see the issues associated with women, hypergamy, branch swinging, AFBB. We all agree that they are genetically hardwired to behave like this. I think we would all agree that as men we are hardwired to want to sleep with as many young, attractive women as we can.

The harsh reality that both sexes find themselves born into is the inability to satisfy all of our urges. We exist in a paradigm which can never be reconciled. "Never the twain shall meet".

Women would love a society where it is acceptable for her to get pounded weekly by Chad and have Chad's baby, while having a skinny nerd at home to provide the beta bucks, emotional validation and care for the children and household.

Men would love a society where they have 2-8 plates, plenty of fresh girls, have children and a loving mother for those kids. To actually be loved exclusively by one woman and be emotionally and mentally satisfied with her.

Essentially there is no way to have all that we want, and that is the same for women. We have all been lied to for a long time by an old world society which told us we could have a happy marriage, a loyal wife and children. Now these things are possible in a society which shames or punishes those who break the rules (muslim nations, old fashioned christian communities, tribal areas where there is severe punishment for adultery etc.).

So without an artificial punitive system which rigorously enforces fidelity in marriage it is impossible to have a secure or happy marriage. What we have in the west today is a society which has been corrupted by toxic feminist logic to place female needs above male needs and the long term needs of children. We have a system which rewards a woman for cheating and punishes a man purely because he is a man.

So taking all of this into consideration, as my friend and I realised, the only way to have a loving partner, children and some security in your future plans is to LTR a less attractive girl.

Even if you are Chad Thundercock, if your girl is a HB7 or above, hypergamy will eventually bite you in the ass, she will divorce rape you and take your kids. If she is HB5 or below, her options for finding someone better than you are non-existent. She will be madly in love with you, faithful, she will cum every time you have sex, she will be a loving and devoted mother and she will care for you and stay with you in your rare moments of vulnerability or weakness. Your sacrifice in this is sex with someone stunning.

LESSONS LEARNED/ SUMMARY:

1) Red pill logic is sound. If you want to pump plates for the rest of your life then follow it to the letter. 2) Marriage for a man in this society is like signing a power of attorney which allows for someone to rape you, break your heart and abduct your children. 3) Perhaps the only way to have a decent LTR and kids is to take a girl who is at least 4 points lower than you in SMV.

Just like the old song says :

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small And very often causes his downfall As soon as he married her and then she starts To do the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife A-you'll be happy for the rest of your life An ug-a-ly woman cooks meals on time And she'll always give you peace of mind

Don't let your friends say you have no taste Go ahead and marry anyway Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match Take it from me, she's a better catch

[Spoken:] Say man! Hey baby! I saw your wife the other day! Yeah? Yeah, an' she's ug-leeee! Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can cook, baby! Yeah, alright!

Thoughts?